Thanks for the reply Jan...I guess I'll find out about the 'places' when I start to order the films.... As for your query re "AN INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL" I believe this to be "SMITH's INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES: IRELAND" The following is from the LDS site: Stmnt.Resp. compiled by the staff and volunteers of the British Reference Unit of the Family History Library ; Frank Smith, project co-ordinator. Authors Smith, Frank, 1917-1990 (Added Author) Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. British Reference Unit (Main Author) Notes Contents: v. 1, pt. 1. Ireland general (subject) -- v. 1, pt. 2. Ireland general (range of years) -- v. 2. Antrim -- v. 3. Armagh -- v. 4. Carlow -- v. 5. Cavan and Clare -- v. 6. Cork -- v. 7. Donegal -- v. 8. Down -- v. 9. Dublin -- v. 10. Fermanagh -- v. 11. Galway -- v. 12. Kerry -- v. 13. Kildare -- v. 14. Kilkenny -- v. 15. Leitrim -- v. 16. Leix -- v. 17. Limerick -- v. 18. Londonderry -- v. 19. Longford -- v. 20. Louth -- v. 21. Mayo -- v. 22. Meath -- v. 23. Monaghan -- v. 24. Offaly -- v. 25. Roscommon -- v. 26. Sligo -- v. 27. Tipperary -- v. 28. Tyrone -- v. 29. Waterford -- v. 30. Westmeath -- v. 31. Wexford -- v. 32. Wicklow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An analytical guide to select material, such as archaeological or historical series, housed in the British Reference collection of the Family History Library. Arranged by years and subjects. Patrons using this material will find new items of genealogical information not specifically listed in the Family History Library catalog. Subjects are again repeated for which a range of years is known or given. The years from 1900 back to 1500 are divided into 50-year periods. From 1500 to Saxon times (1066), the increments are in 100 year periods. Any subject covering more than the block of years shown is repeated in the appropriate blocks. Let me know if you end up using this and of what interest it may hold. Thanks, Nancy --- Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Nancy, the Hayes volumes I used were "Persons" and "Subjects", so I'm > not > familiar with the "Places" volumes and their arrangement. > > The Index at the beginning of each of the "Subjects" volumes makes > interesting reading in itself as it opens up new ideas for research. (If > I > remember correctly, the Index is repeated in each of the "Subjects" > volumes, so you don't have to go back and forth between the books which > are > quite large and heavy.) One of the subjects that I concentrated on was > "Irish Abroad" which covered various places the Irish emigrated to, i.e. > Irish Abroad: Spain, Irish Abroad: Gibraltar, Irish Abroad: Portugal, > Irish > Abroad: West Indies as these were the areas my ancestors settled. I feel > "Education" would almost certainly be in the "Subect" volume. > > Here are the three bibliographic references for Richard J. Hayes > (editor) > in my handouts: > > 1) MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, 11 volumes, > 1965 > > 2) SUPPLEMENTS TO MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH > CIVILIZATION, > 3 volumes, 1979 > > 3)MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, ARTICLES IN > PERIODICALS, 9 volumes, 1970 > > I didn't use either #2 or #3. I don't think Samford had copies. > > Another source that David had in the handouts was AN INVENTORY OF > GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL, SLC which is > microfiched and supplements Richard Hayes' MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE > HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION. However, I can't find this listed in the > FHL > catalogue. Does anyone know what this is? > > Jan in Mississippi where we are under a tropical storm warning. > > On 7/5/05 at 7:44 AM nancy c wrote: > > >Hi Jan, > > > >Thanks for the post re Richard Hayes manuscript. It appears that the > films > >re Places are divided alphabetically. Volume 7: A-K; Volume 8:L-Z. > Would > >you order Vol 7 for Cork and then search for the civil parish or > >townlands...or would you order Vol 8 and go directly for the civil > parish > >or townland that begins with the latter letters of the alphabet? > > > >As for Subjects...again the Volumes are arranged and divided by the > >alphabet. Did the class give examples as to what type of subjects are > to > >be found of interest to the family historian? In particular, any re > >education? > > > >Thanks for any clarification Jan, > > > >Nancy > > > > > > Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > >> Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford > >> University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful > and > >> VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher > taught > >> us > >> so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about > Irish > >> research that one person was taking the class for the third time. > That > >> made > >> me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning > to > >> think I wasn't very bright. > >> > >> The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the > >> complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, > >> but > >> maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five > hour > >> drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource > >> has > >> been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited > by > >> Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly > >> working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. > David > >> Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish > >> research > >> and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film > from > >> the FHL. > >> > >> If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford > >> IGHR > >> in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical > experience. > >> And > >> if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy > to > >> try > >> and answer them. > >> > >> Jan Dean in Mississippi > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > >> RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >> > >> ============================== > >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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Hi Jan, Thanks for the post re Richard Hayes manuscript. It appears that the films re Places are divided alphabetically. Volume 7: A-K; Volume 8:L-Z. Would you order Vol 7 for Cork and then search for the civil parish or townlands...or would you order Vol 8 and go directly for the civil parish or townland that begins with the latter letters of the alphabet? As for Subjects...again the Volumes are arranged and divided by the alphabet. Did the class give examples as to what type of subjects are to be found of interest to the family historian? In particular, any re education? Thanks for any clarification Jan, Nancy Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford > University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful and > VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher taught > us > so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about Irish > research that one person was taking the class for the third time. That > made > me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning to > think I wasn't very bright. > > The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the > complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, > but > maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five hour > drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource > has > been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited by > Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly > working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. David > Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish > research > and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film from > the FHL. > > If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford > IGHR > in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical experience. > And > if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy to > try > and answer them. > > Jan Dean in Mississippi > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > NYC Irish Research Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Jan, Thanks for the post re Richard Hayes manuscript. It appears that the films re Places are divided alphabetically. Volume 7: A-K; Volume 8:L-Z. Would you order Vol 7 for Cork and then search for the civil parish or townlands...or would you order Vol 8 and go directly for the civil parish or townland that begins with the latter letters of the alphabet? As for Subjects...again the Volumes are arranged and divided by the alphabet. Did the class give examples as to what type of subjects are to be found of interest to the family historian? In particular, any re education? Thanks for any clarification Jan, Nancy Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford > University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful and > VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher taught > us > so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about Irish > research that one person was taking the class for the third time. That > made > me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning to > think I wasn't very bright. > > The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the > complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, > but > maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five hour > drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource > has > been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited by > Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly > working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. David > Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish > research > and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film from > the FHL. > > If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford > IGHR > in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical experience. > And > if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy to > try > and answer them. > > Jan Dean in Mississippi > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > NYC Irish Research Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

A BIG Thanks ! to all the very Generous people that Helped with my query on Adrigool , Much Appreciated !. Regards Ron Lanning

Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful and VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher taught us so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about Irish research that one person was taking the class for the third time. That made me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning to think I wasn't very bright. The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, but maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five hour drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource has been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited by Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. David Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish research and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film from the FHL. If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford IGHR in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical experience. And if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy to try and answer them. Jan Dean in Mississippi

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Adrigool is in the DED of Woodfort in the Skibbereen District. Pádraig Mór [ An Sean-Ghabhar - Milis agus Dilis!] [The Old Goat - Sweet and Faithful !] **** Please Reply Only to the List **** ----- Original Message ----- From: <ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz> To: "Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> Sent: Saturday Jul 02, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: Adrigool , Castlehaven > Hi Pádraig , Thanks Very Much for all that information , i will approach the Valuation Office and also see if i can find the DED that covers Adrigool. > > Cheers ! > Ron > > > > From: Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > > Date: 2005/07/03 Sun AM 04:42:24 GMT+12:00 > > To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Adrigool , Castlehaven > > > > Copies of the original Ordinance Maps used by Griffith's > > valuators are available from the valuation office > > www.valoff.ie in two sizes - the original scale size of 6" > > to the mile, and a reduced version. You will need to tell > > them name of the civil parish (Castlehaven); the name of > > the Union (Skibbereen) ; and the O.S. number(s) of the > > map(s), which will be in brackets directly under the > > townland name of, in your case, Adrigool. > > > > The italicised 'a' in the '7a' indicates the principle > > house on lot #7. There is not much, if anything, one can > > read about a townland that distinguishes it from another > > rural area, except in archaeological journals reports that > > might deal with pre-historic mounds and/or stone circles. > > As far as I know, Lewis deals only with civil parishes, > > although he might mention some townlands within a parish, > > if there is something significant about them, for example, > > an old castle, a paper mill, etc. > > > > The 11901/1911 censuses will deal only with the specified > > DED's (District Electoral Divisions). Adrigool is not > > likely wiped-off the map, the key is to determining which > > DED it belongs. > > > > Pádraig Mór > > [ An Sean-Ghabhar - Milis agus Dilis!] > > [The Old Goat - Sweet and Faithful !] > > > > **** Please Reply Only to the List **** > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz> > > To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday Jul 01, 2005 4:41 PM > > Subject: Adrigool , Castlehaven > > > > > > > Hi hoping someone may be able to point me in the fight > > direction!. > > > It appears i may have broken through my brick wall and > > have found my GGGGrandfather only to find the Church of > > Ireland Baptism etc records for the area went up in flames > > in the 1922 fire !. > > > My GGGGrandfather Wm Lennon is shown on the Griffiths > > Valuation as leasing ( from a Sir HW Beecher)98 acres ( Map > > reference 7a)of land in the Townland of Adrigool which is > > in the Parish of Castlehaven,my questions are these. > > > The Map reference 7a is it possible and where could i > > purchase a map showing what area within Adrigool this map > > reference refers to. > > > Adrigool itself i have done a Yahoo etc search on it but > > have found little information aside from the acreage of it > > , any ideas on how to obtain more information on that > > Townland ( i suppose Lewis's Topographical book is one > > possibility) > > > On the Skibereen Heritage Centre site there was a > > refernce to the 1901 /11 Census they named Townlands > > covered , Adrigool was not shown, does anyone know if it > > was amalgamated with another Townland. > > > Sorry about the length, but Any Help is Appreciated. > > > > > > Regards > > > Ron Lanning

Copies of the original Ordinance Maps used by Griffith's valuators are available from the valuation office www.valoff.ie in two sizes - the original scale size of 6" to the mile, and a reduced version. You will need to tell them name of the civil parish (Castlehaven); the name of the Union (Skibbereen) ; and the O.S. number(s) of the map(s), which will be in brackets directly under the townland name of, in your case, Adrigool. The italicised 'a' in the '7a' indicates the principle house on lot #7. There is not much, if anything, one can read about a townland that distinguishes it from another rural area, except in archaeological journals reports that might deal with pre-historic mounds and/or stone circles. As far as I know, Lewis deals only with civil parishes, although he might mention some townlands within a parish, if there is something significant about them, for example, an old castle, a paper mill, etc. The 11901/1911 censuses will deal only with the specified DED's (District Electoral Divisions). Adrigool is not likely wiped-off the map, the key is to determining which DED it belongs. Pádraig Mór [ An Sean-Ghabhar - Milis agus Dilis!] [The Old Goat - Sweet and Faithful !] **** Please Reply Only to the List **** ----- Original Message ----- From: <ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday Jul 01, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Adrigool , Castlehaven > Hi hoping someone may be able to point me in the fight direction!. > It appears i may have broken through my brick wall and have found my GGGGrandfather only to find the Church of Ireland Baptism etc records for the area went up in flames in the 1922 fire !. > My GGGGrandfather Wm Lennon is shown on the Griffiths Valuation as leasing ( from a Sir HW Beecher)98 acres ( Map reference 7a)of land in the Townland of Adrigool which is in the Parish of Castlehaven,my questions are these. > The Map reference 7a is it possible and where could i purchase a map showing what area within Adrigool this map reference refers to. > Adrigool itself i have done a Yahoo etc search on it but have found little information aside from the acreage of it , any ideas on how to obtain more information on that Townland ( i suppose Lewis's Topographical book is one possibility) > On the Skibereen Heritage Centre site there was a refernce to the 1901 /11 Census they named Townlands covered , Adrigool was not shown, does anyone know if it was amalgamated with another Townland. > Sorry about the length, but Any Help is Appreciated. > > Regards > Ron Lanning

I'm looking for a William and Honora O'Brien, children John, Maurice and Honora. They would have emigrated to America or Canada around the time of the Great Famine or shortly there after, 1847-1855, eventually settling in Lewsiton, ME in the 1850s. Does anyone have such a family listed as coming from Cork? My father always claimed his Hagerty family was from Roscommon, but I've all but concluded that the Hagertys are from the Skibbereen area of County Cork, but nothing is known about which county in Ireland my Great-grandmother Honora O'Brien Hagerty's family came from? Honora was listed as being 15 years old in the 1860 Lewiston Census. Honora and my Great-grandfather Denis Hagerty would later marry in Lewiston in 1867. Also in the 1860 census, living with Honora's parents and brothers, is John's wife Mary, who it turns out is the sister of Denis. Ed Hagerty Monroe, CT USA

Have you tried the Valuation Office website at <http://www.valoff.ie/>? Dave Collins Hudson, MA, USA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > IRL-CORK-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 149 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Adrigool , Castlehaven [<ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz>] >____________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Adrigool , Castlehaven > From: > <ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz> > Date: > Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:41:39 +1200 > To: > IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi hoping someone may be able to point me in the fight direction!. >It appears i may have broken through my brick wall and have found my GGGGrandfather only to find the Church of Ireland Baptism etc records for the area went up in flames in the 1922 fire !. >My GGGGrandfather Wm Lennon is shown on the Griffiths Valuation as leasing ( from a Sir HW Beecher)98 acres ( Map reference 7a)of land in the Townland of Adrigool which is in the Parish of Castlehaven,my questions are these. >The Map reference 7a is it possible and where could i purchase a map showing what area within Adrigool this map reference refers to. >Adrigool itself i have done a Yahoo etc search on it but have found little information aside from the acreage of it , any ideas on how to obtain more information on that Townland ( i suppose Lewis's Topographical book is one possibility) >On the Skibereen Heritage Centre site there was a refernce to the 1901 /11 Census they named Townlands covered , Adrigool was not shown, does anyone know if it was amalgamated with another Townland. >Sorry about the length, but Any Help is Appreciated. > >Regards >Ron Lanning > >

Ron at ron-lanning@xtra.co.nz writes: > where could i purchase a map showing what area within Adrigool this map reference refers to. <snip> Adrigool was not shown, does anyone know if it was amalgamated with another Townland. <snip> Any Help is Appreciated. < Ron, I'm not sure just how much detail you want about the townland itself, but six-inch maps of Ireland are available from the Ordnance Survey (in the case of Adrigool, it would be OS six-inch map 133 for Co. Cork.). I know that the OS can take bits and pieces from maps for individual use, but I have a general interest in the entire Republic, and so have never investigated the individual six-inch maps nor portions of them. The complete six-inch maps are over 50 Euro each, very detailed, and - I believe - show individual farm-lands (but probably not owners or tenants, as those change from year to year). The six-inch maps, 1st or 2nd series, are from the 1830 to 1850 period (more or less). The contact in Ireland to purchase these would be Sean Tobin, at Sean.Tobin@osi.ie . I can give you much more general info on the six-inch maps, but I don't want to clutter this list <gr>. I would recommend that you start with the Discovery map 89. If you don't have a copy, I understand that Gould Books in Australia (and maybe in NZ, too ?) either stock the maps or can order them. These maps are also available from the Ordnance Survey in Dublin and various suppliers around the world. If you have a map 89, I can "walk you through" the boundaries of Adrigool (mostly small streams, in this case) using map coordinates, etc. (off-list, of course - this would get REALLY boring to anyone else) and then you could see the current situation in the townland - the individual houses, driveways, topography, the two ringforts and the "possible" standing stone (I have more info on the latter items in one of the Archaeological Inventory of County Cork books). A quick glance at the semi-current (as of 1973) building situation in the townland shows about two dozen structures - with quite a few appearing to be garages, outbuildings, sheds, etc. Again, I would recommend you start with the Discovery map - and proceed from there. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hi hoping someone may be able to point me in the fight direction!. It appears i may have broken through my brick wall and have found my GGGGrandfather only to find the Church of Ireland Baptism etc records for the area went up in flames in the 1922 fire !. My GGGGrandfather Wm Lennon is shown on the Griffiths Valuation as leasing ( from a Sir HW Beecher)98 acres ( Map reference 7a)of land in the Townland of Adrigool which is in the Parish of Castlehaven,my questions are these. The Map reference 7a is it possible and where could i purchase a map showing what area within Adrigool this map reference refers to. Adrigool itself i have done a Yahoo etc search on it but have found little information aside from the acreage of it , any ideas on how to obtain more information on that Townland ( i suppose Lewis's Topographical book is one possibility) On the Skibereen Heritage Centre site there was a refernce to the 1901 /11 Census they named Townlands covered , Adrigool was not shown, does anyone know if it was amalgamated with another Townland. Sorry about the length, but Any Help is Appreciated. Regards Ron Lanning

Hi list seeking information on the these two families from KANTURK any help would be very much appreciated Mick

Anything known about Patrick O'CONNOR born about 1821. He married Eliza MULLANNE from Co Limerick who was born in 1829 and they migrated to New Zealand in 1856/57 Maureen

Hi, The Family History Center may have the film in their inventory. When a film rental has been extended 3 times the FHC retains the film. Once you determine the film number you can call the FHCs near you to determine if they have copy on hand. Thanks Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Collins" <dfc.jr@earthlink.net> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: IRL-CORK-D Digest V05 #147 > > > IRL-CORK-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>IRL-CORK-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 147 >> >>Today's Topics: >> #4 (no subject) [Popsballyagran@aol.com] >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Cathy, > There are no stupid questions, except for the unasked ones. We have all > been exactly where you are. > > Go to <http://www.familysearch.org>, which is the LDS genealogy website. > On the Home Page is a Family History Center (FHC) locator. Click on it and > follow the directions to find an LDS FHC near you. If you find one in your > area, call them. The staffs are volunteers and are very knowledgeable and > helpful. They will be able to guide you in your search for the right > films. > In order to view the microfilms, you will need to order them from Salt > Lake City through the FHC, where you will be able to use them. > > Another choice - if you're in the Boston area - is the New England > Historic Genealogical Society, <http://www.newenglandancestors.org>, which > has an arrangement with the Family History Library to borrow films for > their members. > > Good hunting, > > David Collins > >> Subject: >> (no subject) >> From: >> Popsballyagran@aol.com >> Date: >> Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:19:36 EDT >> To: >> IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >>Please firgive me for being so stupid, but I am trying real hard to find >>information about my Grandfather and his siblings.. How do I "view the LDS >>microfilms of marriages"?? >> As you can see I am very new at this.. >> Thank you, >> Cathy O'Sullivan >> >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives for IRL-CORK can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/irl-cork > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

IRL-CORK-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >IRL-CORK-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 147 > >Today's Topics: > #4 (no subject) [Popsballyagran@aol.com] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cathy, There are no stupid questions, except for the unasked ones. We have all been exactly where you are. Go to <http://www.familysearch.org>, which is the LDS genealogy website. On the Home Page is a Family History Center (FHC) locator. Click on it and follow the directions to find an LDS FHC near you. If you find one in your area, call them. The staffs are volunteers and are very knowledgeable and helpful. They will be able to guide you in your search for the right films. In order to view the microfilms, you will need to order them from Salt Lake City through the FHC, where you will be able to use them. Another choice - if you're in the Boston area - is the New England Historic Genealogical Society, <http://www.newenglandancestors.org>, which has an arrangement with the Family History Library to borrow films for their members. Good hunting, David Collins > Subject: > (no subject) > From: > Popsballyagran@aol.com > Date: > Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:19:36 EDT > To: > IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > > >Please firgive me for being so stupid, but I am trying real hard to find >information about my Grandfather and his siblings.. How do I "view the LDS >microfilms of marriages"?? > >As you can see I am very new at this.. > >Thank you, > >Cathy O'Sullivan > > > >

Many thanks to those who replied to my question. Vicki New Zealand Until next time..... _________________________________________________________________ Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment

Vicki - I have tried searching the English censuses for the relevant years without much success. Did find the GOODFELLOW family in 1881. could not find Mary Ann in 1891 or the GORDONs in 1901. There are a few Michael TWOMEYs (with various spellings) born Ireland in earlier censuses with the only one that partly fits your details being a widowed Michael, miller's labourer, 45yrs, born Ireland, living in Liverpool with daughter Mary Ann aged 16. Doesn't take you much further forward I fear. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "vicki murray" <queenvictoria18@hotmail.com> > My apologies portsea & southsea in Portsmouth England > > > > >Hi, Vicki, > > > >Can you tell us where the Twomeys were living? > >Is this place in UK or ??? > > > >Wherever it is, that is where we need to look for records. > > > >Elizabeth > > > > >

My apologies portsea & southsea in Portsmouth England >From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> >To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Cork] MICHAEL TWOMEY of Portsea and Southsea >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:00:05 -0400 > >Hi, Vicki, > >Can you tell us where the Twomeys were living? >Is this place in UK or ??? > >Wherever it is, that is where we need to look for records. > >Elizabeth > > >Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > >From: "vicki murray" <queenvictoria18@hotmail.com> >To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: MICHAEL TWOMEY > >Hi, I am looking for any details on this man and any family. The only >confirmed info I have is his presence at his aughters 1st and 2nd marriages > >and that he was born Cork, Ireland. > >Daughter MARY ANN TWOMEY age 20years married 1886 father Michael Twomey, >farmer, present. >Daughters address given as 15 South Parade, married St Mary's Portsea. >Bridegroom WILLIAM GOODFELLOW, 21years, tram driver, address 28 Grosvenor >Street. > >2nd marriage of same daughter St Luke's Church, Landport 1892. Father >Michael Twomey, farmer, present. Bridegrom Thomas Gordon, age 30years, >labourer, Southsea. > >Could anyone suggest where I could look for further details >e.g.census,death >or anything. > >Thanks >Vicki< > > > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton >answering, not asking the question > > >==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== >** To unsubscribe from the Cork list send unsubscribe in the body of an >email with no other text to CountyCork-L-request@rootsweb.com ** > Until next time..... _________________________________________________________________ Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment

Hi Cathy, Your LDS Family History Center should have the indexes for the filmed marriage registrations. You likely will need to order the films in the time period you need. You can view the library lists at familysearch.org , but I have found getting in is a bit tedious. Go to this site Click on library tab at the top Click on Family History Library Catalogue Click on Place Search Type in Ireland Click on Ireland Scroll to the second set of 50 and click on MARRIAGE RECORDS CLICK ON FILM NOTES UP AT TOP RIGHT This is what you will see: Note Location Film Index of marriages 1845-1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101241 Index of marriages 1848-1850 FHL BRITISH Film 101242 Index of marriages 1851 FHL BRITISH Film 101243 Index of marriages 1852-1853 FHL BRITISH Film 101244 Index of marriages 1854-1855 FHL BRITISH Film 101245 Index of marriages 1856-1857 FHL BRITISH Film 101246 Index of marriages 1858-1859 FHL BRITISH Film 101247 Index of marriages 1860-1862 FHL BRITISH Film 101248 Index of marriages 1863-1865 FHL BRITISH Film 101249 Index of marriages 1866-1868 FHL BRITISH Film 101250 Index of marriages 1869-1872 FHL BRITISH Film 101251 Index of marriages 1873-1876 FHL BRITISH Film 101252 Index of marriages 1877-1880 FHL BRITISH Film 101253 Index of marriages 1881-1884 FHL BRITISH Film 101254 Index of marriages 1885-1888 FHL BRITISH Film 101255 Index of marriages 1889-1892 FHL BRITISH Film 101256 Index of marriages 1893-1895 FHL BRITISH Film 101257 Index of marriages 1896-1897 FHL BRITISH Film 101258 Index of marriages 1898-1901 FHL BRITISH Film 101259 Index of marriages 1902-1905 FHL BRITISH Film 101260 Index of marriages 1906-1909 FHL BRITISH Film 101261 Index of marriages 1910-1914 FHL BRITISH Film 101262 Index of marriages 1915-1917 FHL BRITISH Film 101263 Index of marriages 1918-1921 FHL BRITISH Film 101264 Marriages v. 1 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101265 Marriages v. 2 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101266 Marriages v. 3 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101267 Marriages v. 4 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101268 Marriages v. 5-6 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101269 Marriages v. 7-8 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101270 Marriages v. 9-10 1845 FHL BRITISH Film 101271 Marriages v. 1 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101272 Marriages v. 2 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101273 Marriages v. 3 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101274 Marriages v. 4 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101275 Marriages v. 5 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101276 Marriages v. 6 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101277 Marriages v. 7 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101278 Marriages v. 8 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101279 Marriages v. 9 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101280 Marriages v. 10 1846 FHL BRITISH Film 101281 Marriages v. 1 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101282 Marriages v. 2 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101283 Marriages v. 3 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101284 Marriages v. 4 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101285 Marriages v. 5 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101286 Marriages v. 6 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101287 Marriages v. 7 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101288 Marriages v. 8 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101289 Marriages v. 9 1847 FHL BRITISH Film 101290 Numbers 1-50 of 334 film notes. Click on [Next film notes <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as p?display=titlefilmnotes&titleno=453112&disp=Marriage+records%2C+1845%2D 1870%2C+with+++&first=51&last=100> ] for the rest of the 334 film notes. Good Luck to you! Regards, Candi -----Original Message----- From: Popsballyagran@aol.com [mailto:Popsballyagran@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:20 PM To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: (no subject) Please firgive me for being so stupid, but I am trying real hard to find information about my Grandfather and his siblings.. How do I "view the LDS microfilms of marriages"?? As you can see I am very new at this.. Thank you, Cathy O'Sullivan ______________________________