Dolores, Who was listed as Honora's father on her marriage cert? My own DRISCOLL are in Whitechapel circa 1853-1870. See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colin/Ancestors/Driscoll/BlueAnchor.htm -- Cheers, Colin Ferguson

Pete, I'm curious as to the townlands on the other three sections of the crossroads. My guess is Carhoo or Oldcastletown (NE), Farrahy (NW) and Meadstown (SW). Ray FitzGerald Cornelius, NC X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:36:10 EDT From: PeteScherm@aol.com To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1d7.4844eb9b.309150ca@aol.com> Subject: Re: Question on difference: Scart-Kildorrery Village & Kildorrery Village ......I can't help you with the way land records are recorded, but I can answer your question from a strict geography viewpoint. The village of Kildorrery is located at a crossroads, and each quadrant of the crossroads is essentially in a different townland.

Bobbie, If CUTTER might be COTTER, Ellen McCARTHY's parents could be Daniel McCARTHY mar 14 Feb 1819 to Catherine COTTER in Inchigeelagh RC parish, Co Cork. Marriage witnesses were Tim DESMOND & Daniel McCARTHY, and place name listed within that parish was Turreen. [Casey Vol. 11, page 958.] If this Daniel's father's name was also Daniel, he may have been known as Patrick, just to differentiate. This couple apparently had 7 children bapt. same RC parish, including Ellen McCARTHY bapt 5 Dec. 1819, whose bapt sponsors Tim DESMOND & Ellen McCARTHY, and place name, given within parish on that date, was also Turreen. [Casey Vol. 7, p. 803.] Also in Vol. 7 are the other children's baptisms, ranged from 1823 to 1837, birth order Daniel, Denis, Anstatia, John, Patrick, Justin. Do those first names show up in succeeding generations in Tasmania or Australia? Locations were Turreen / Tureen, later Coolmountain and Sheehy. Witnesses besides McCARTHY & COTTER were CROWLEY, CRONIN, BRIEN & DONOVAN. No Hanora, Nora, Hannah or Johanna, but that may mean Ellen's sister was baptized elsewhere or somehow missing record, such as my grandmother, same parish. Or, maybe Anstatia didn't like her baptismal name? Note: Baptisms are from the IGI's online indexing, Batch No. C700791. Sometimes there are more [somehow unindexed], found by poring over Casey's fine print with a magnifying glass.... What else do you know about Hanora McCARTHY? Food for thought, even if there are some Ifs! Best of luck, Barb Glassel Wisconsin "I'm searching for ELLEN McCARTHY (aka MacArthur\ Carty\ Carthy\ McCarty\ McCarthy\ Cartley.) Unfortunately she quoted several surnames and we haven't been able to confirm the correct one yet. If anyone can lookup for her Birth, I'd appreciate it. DOB Abt 1820, Cork, Ireland; (Died 1883, Geelong, Australia) Father = Patrick McCarthy (?surname?) Mother = Mary Cutter Siblings = Honora Married = John Henry Durrant (Tasmania, Australia) Apparently Ellen was deported to Australia as a convict. Her trial was: 10 Apr 1843, Corick County Ireland Convict: Arrived 21 Sept 1843, 10 May 1843, Ireland to Tasmania Convict Ship: East London - in 1843, 21 Sept 1843, England to Tasmania If anybody has any information on Ellen or her parents/siblings, I'd be most grateful."

G'Day Listers! I'm searching for the marriage between MARY CUTTER and PATRICK McCARTHY (or possibly had the surname of MacArthur\ Carty\ Carthy\ McCarty\ McCarthy or Cartley). If anyone can lookup this marriage, I'd appreciate it. They had a daughter in the 1820's (in Cork), so I am presuming they were married before her birth. If anybody has any information on these families, I'd be most grateful. Cheers - Bobbie :)

G'day from Down Under (Australia). I'm searching for ELLEN McCARTHY (aka MacArthur\ Carty\ Carthy\ McCarty\ McCarthy\ Cartley.) Unfortunately she quoted several surnames and we haven't been able to confirm the correct one yet. If anyone can lookup for her Birth, I'd appreciate it. DOB Abt 1820, Cork, Ireland; (Died 1883, Geelong, Australia) Father = Patrick McCarthy (?surname?) Mother = Mary Cutter Siblings = Honora Married = John Henry Durrant (Tasmania, Australia) Apparently Ellen was deported to Australia as a convict. Her trial was: 10 Apr 1843, Corick County Ireland Convict: Arrived 21 Sept 1843, 10 May 1843, Ireland to Tasmania Convict Ship: East London - in 1843, 21 Sept 1843, England to Tasmania If anybody has any information on Ellen or her parents/siblings, I'd be most grateful. Cheers - Bobbie :)

I have transcribed pages & pages of TUCKEY family names from Co Cork originally taken from newspapers, church and court documents. Late 1700 through 1920's. I am willing to search them for your TUCKEY name(s). (LDS Film 1951830 item 1) Mike

Jan at janfortado@comcast.net writes: << I see land records divided in two ways for Kildorrery Village. 1) Kildorrery Village 2) Scart, Kildorrery Village Is there anyone on the list who can tell me the difference between the two? >> Jan, I can't help you with the way land records are recorded, but I can answer your question from a strict geography viewpoint. The village of Kildorrery is located at a crossroads, and each quadrant of the crossroads is essentially in a different townland. The SE corner (where the RC church is located) is Scart townland. Scart townland extends southward along the east side of the R 512 for nearly a mile and a half - to the Farahy River. I would assume that residents of the part of the townland near the crossroads would be considered as living in Kildorrery village, whereas those farther south in the townland would use Scart, Kildorrery as their address. The use of Kildorrery in the latter case would just indicate a proximity to the village. I hope this is clear <gr>. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

First and foremost it is spelt 'Leitry' which is in Dromdaleague Civ. Psh. in the PLU of Skibereen. AND http://159.134.203.172/search.asp?source=Eircom does not list any Mahoney in that location. Maybe the party you wish is not in Directory. Pádraig Mór An Sean Ghabair " I used to be with "It", but then they changed what "It" was. " Now, what I'm with isn't "It", and what's "It" seems weird and " scary to me." [Anon] ***** Replies to the LIST ONLY - Thanks ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: Any Mahonys living in Leitra, Drimoleague > I cannot tell from the phone book if there are still Mahonys living in > Leitra (which I think used to be either Upper or Lower Leitry). Is there > anyone on this list who might be able to help? > > Thank you, > Jan > >

Just looking at the 1901 census for the Lexden Workhouse in Stanway, Colchester, Essex, England I came across the following entry: FRANCES WRIGLEY OFFICER WIDOW 35 SICK NURSE BORN CORK IRELAND Thought it might be of interest to someone! -- Best Wishes Angela Boon <boon.moggies@ntlworld.com> Chase Bridge Twickenham Class of '75 http://www.chasebridge75.co.uk/

I cannot tell from the phone book if there are still Mahonys living in Leitra (which I think used to be either Upper or Lower Leitry). Is there anyone on this list who might be able to help? Thank you, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-CORK-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-CORK-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: IRL-CORK-D Digest V05 #195

I am a bit confused with land records for one area of Kildorrery parish, Cork. I see land records divided in two ways for Kildorrery Village. 1) Kildorrery Village 2) Scart, Kildorrery Village Is there anyone on the list who can tell me the difference between the two? Thank you, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-CORK-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-CORK-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: IRL-CORK-D Digest V05 #220

Anyone with knowledge of a Mary O"Brien who married a Bryan Flynn in the late 1850's. They had three daughter's born in Whitechapel England between 1860 and 1864 then they immigrated to USA. Settled in Brooklyn in 1870 along with in-laws Rodger Ryan and his wife Mary Flynn. Both men were Tinsmiths.Anxious for any information. Dolores

I am trying to connect several Driscoll families to my line. A Honora Driscoll married a Thomas Flynn in Whitechapel, Eng in 1868. She has a sister Margaret that never married living with her for about 28 yrs.I believe she is related to a John and Johanna Driscoll living on the same block in Whitechapel in 1868. When my family the Flynns immig from Whitechapel in 1865 s Patrick and Julia Driscoll and their children also immig. Patrick and Julia(Sheridan) settled in Jersey City New Jersey. Believe their children James, Kate, and Patrick were all born in Cork in the1860 era. I would like to hear from anyone who is familar with these families. Thank you. Dolores

Pat <margaretcyrilla@yahoo.com> said: >I am trying to help some friends whose origins are >from Rockchapel, Cork. Is anyone else searching in The Mallow Heritage Centre has indexed parish records for Rockchapel, baptisms and marriages 1865-1899. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/mherit.htm -dja

I am trying to help some friends whose origins are from Rockchapel, Cork. Is anyone else searching in this area? The name is DALY. I've tried Google for a bit of history but after 30 or 40 sites, I still haven't learned much. One said population 450, another said 7500 in a 7 km radius (I think). Thank you, Pat __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

Josi, I take it you are referring to Irish Certs when you say > The certs however do not take up a lot of room they are two and a > half inches wide.!! Two and a half inches is only about two postage stamps wide. Even going for the cheapest option at 1.90 Euro you will get a photostat copy which is at least eight to eleven inches wide by two inches high. If you go for a full death cert you will get one measuring about fifteen by eight inches but with the same info. In the UK I have paid 13.50 Sterling ( about 20 Euro) for a Death Cert. Brendan Jones.

you gotta be joking Ive got a bunch here where the deceased is clearly marked 'Married' No spouse is shown AND if they die in a Union you seldom get their home address either The certs however do not take up a lot of room they are two and a half inches wide.!! Josi ------------------------------------- Volume 14 of my Newsletter is back on www.btinternet.com/~finty/ See if you can identify the mystery guests ------------------------------------------

Mine, which are photocopies of the page entry, are about 7" wide and about 2" depth. That's because you and I ordered the cheaper photocopy rather than the full sized certificate - which is all one needs for genealogical purposes, anyway. And you are right, the wife's or husband's name of the deceased is never shown, just indicates condition, i.e., whether Single, Married, Spinster, Bachelor, Widow or Widower. Pádraig Mór An Sean Ghabair ***** Replies to the LIST ONLY - Thanks ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josi" <seosimhin@btopenworld.com> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: Parents on Death certs > > > you gotta be joking Ive got a bunch here where the deceased is clearly > marked 'Married' > No spouse is shown AND if they die in a Union you seldom get their > home address either > The certs however do not take up a lot of room they are two and a > half inches wide.!! > > Josi

She can not be referring to Irish Death certs. Pádraig Mór An Sean Ghabair ***** Replies to the LIST ONLY - Thanks ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: Patrick MURPHY-b.1816-Desertmore,Cork > > Hi Ann--I haven't ever seen parents' names on Irish death certificates? > Has anyone else? > > Candi in California > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ann [mailto:awheel@dcdi.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:49 PM > To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Patrick MURPHY-b.1816-Desertmore,Cork > > Hi, Renee- > Have you tried getting his death certificate? That should have his > parents' > names on it. You have his date and place of death, so a call to the > appropriate office followed by a written request and whatever the fee > might > be, should get you that information. > Ann

Dear Jane, Patrick was quite possibly one of many soldiers in the British army who found their bride in Ireland. Apparently it was extremely common. Since you know his regiment you are half way there. Have you visited the PRO at KEW - you can look at their webpage, with many names now online from their military records. If you get the chance to go there you could most likely follow his career quite well, they have the paybooks there which specify where the regiment was at any one time. That helps you to know where to look for marriage and birth records, and death records too for that matter. Then if he is KIA, the widow will often apply for a pension. The application requires her to supply a marriage certificate and birth certificate for any minor children. These certificates are usually still on file at the PRO so can be very useful. Also goggle"first Royal Dragoons' as many of the regiments have webpages on which you may find a timetable for their movements through the years that you are researching. This also helps you to find certificates. Beware of periods when the regiment splits up and goes in two different directions as you cannot be sure which half your man was with. But the paybooks at Kew will fill in the details. Kae Lewis