Peggy, Check the National Archives of Ireland at <www.nationalarchives.ie>. They have a list of their National School holdings and those from other collections. Don't expect much. For some reason, there are very few County Cork records. David Collins >Today's Topics: > #1 Ahakeera [kellykarp@comcast.net] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Ahakeera > From: > kellykarp@comcast.net > Date: > Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:08:14 +0000 > To: > IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi, >Trying to find information on the Ahakeera National School. My grandfather attended the school and I believe my great grandmother may have also taught there. His name was Jeremiah Buckley and hers was Mary Buckley. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. How can I also get copies of school records? >Thanks, >Peggy > > > >

At 05:15 AM 11/27/2005, wm.karr@insightbb.com wrote: >Listers, > >I just found out that my wife's great grandfather, John Torpey, came from >County Cork and settled in Chicago. I do know that the maiden named of the >woman he married and later divorced was Donoghue - no forename is known at >this time. That is basically all the information I have on him. I do not have >any dates of birth or time when he emigrated. I know this is very limited >information, to say the least. However, any information that can be found >would be greatly appreciated, especially any connection to the Torpeys >(Tarpeys). > >Bill Karr in Peoria, IL., USA Don't know if it'll help, but I found a John Torpey listed in the IGI (taken from the US 1880 Census), as being from Illinois. Could be your John, so I dowloaded the IGI GEDCOM file. I'll send to you now :) Carl. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

At 05:15 AM 11/27/2005, wm.karr@insightbb.com wrote: >Listers, > >I just found out that my wife's great grandfather, John Torpey, came from >County Cork and settled in Chicago. I do know that the maiden named of the >woman he married and later divorced was Donoghue - no forename is known at >this time. That is basically all the information I have on him. I do not have >any dates of birth or time when he emigrated. I know this is very limited >information, to say the least. However, any information that can be found >would be greatly appreciated, especially any connection to the Torpeys >(Tarpeys). > >Bill Karr in Peoria, IL., USA Hi Bill, If I were you , I'd be asking as many of my relatives as I could did they know about this guy and how much info they had on him. Your main priority here is when he emigrated. If you can pin down a good guess as to the year he came to the US, then you can have an idea of his age as well. From there, you can extrapolate out things like DOB, place etc, then try to confirm those through further research. I'd be going through as many of the shipping logs they have stored at the Library of Congress as I could.....or at your local genealogical society. Try running an IGI search as well.....could give you a few clues. Good Luck :) Carl. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

Listers, I just found out that my wife's great grandfather, John Torpey, came from County Cork and settled in Chicago. I do know that the maiden named of the woman he married and later divorced was Donoghue - no forename is known at this time. That is basically all the information I have on him. I do not have any dates of birth or time when he emigrated. I know this is very limited information, to say the least. However, any information that can be found would be greatly appreciated, especially any connection to the Torpeys (Tarpeys). Bill Karr in Peoria, IL., USA

> Listers: > Looking for any information regarding these two families: DORGAN- > FLYNN and HARTNETT-DUHIG of East Cork. > I have an extended database about the descendants of these two > families: Please visit: www.billdorgan.com. > > > PATRICK DORGAN (Born about 1830, Ballybraher, Cloyne Parish, East > Cork and died before 1886) and ANN FLYNN (Born about 1830, > Ballyandreen, Cloyne Parish, East Cork and died before 1886). Griffith's Valuation of County Cork in 1851-1853 (LDS film #0830537) lists a Patrick DARGAN (a variant spelling of DORGAN). This Patrick DARGAN is the brother of John DORGAN and the father of Patrick J. DORGAN. Patrick DARGAN had a house, offices, and land in Carrigkilter: 14 acres, 5 perches, 3 roods 21 perches and 10 acres, 3 roods and 25 perches. He is also listed in the Valuation of Tenements 1855 in Carrigkilter as Patrick DARGAN. Maurice Cusack leased the land in Carrigkilter before 1855 and Patrick DARGAN later leased the same land about 1855. The landlord's name was Thomas Garde Durdin, a descendant of William Penn who founded Pennsylvania. Thomas Garde Durdin would arrive in East Cork from England each year to collect the rents. While in Cork he stayed at one of his estates: Shanagarry "Castle" or Sunville House. In the 1855 Landlord Index of “County Cork Encumbered Estates” (Volume 4, FHL Film No. 25883), Thomas Garde Durdin, Esq. sold his land holdings at auction on 19 June 1855. At the time he held the “Lands of Killderrig, Carrigkilter, Coalvodig otherwise Sunviille, Ballybraher West, Snugborough, Ballyronahan, Ballybraher East, Ballinamona, and part of Shanagarry - 19 June 1855 - (lot maps).” This is the date that Patrick Dargan “bought” his farm ... a farm that he had formerly “leased” from Thomas Garde Durdin. This is the first recorded Dorgan “deed of sale” since the English Reformation of the late 1500s. I have sent for a copy of this deed fom the Dublin Archives. Patrick DARGAN'S yearly rent was 17 English Pounds for the land and 1 Pound, 5 Shillings for the buildings. If he improved the land, the rent would increase each year. Thomas Garde Durdin died in 1867. In the 1880s, the Land Reform Acts went into effect sponsored by Michael Davitt of the Irish Parliament and later by Charles Stewart Parnell a member of the House of Commons of the English Parliament. The Land Acts sought reform in three areas called the three F's: Freedom of Rent, Freedom of Tenure and Freedom from Eviction without trial. Amazingly, the Protestant landowners peacefully went back to England in the 1880s and 1890s never to return to their estates. The tenant farmers continued to pay their rents to the State in the 1880s and 1890s. After the 1920s the State made these tenant farmers the actual "owners" of the lands they once leased! Patrick DARGAN died before his son, Patrick J. DORGAN, married Mary HARTNETT on November 26, 1886. He is documented as "deceased" on their marriage certificat > > JOHN HARTNETT (Born about 1830, Garryvoe, Cloyne Parish, East > Cork) and MARY DUHIG (Born about 1830, Ballymacoda, Cloyne Parish, > East Cork). Here is what I know about John Hartnett: According to Griffith's Valuation of 1851-1853, there were many HARTNETTs listed in the Parishes surrounding Ballycotton, but there is only one listed in Garryvoe: JOHN HARTNETT, Garryvoe location, Garryvoe Lower. He is the father of Mary Hartnett, the wife of Patrick J. Dorgan. He owned 19 acres, 26 perches and 1 acre, 2 roods, 30 perches. There are other HARTNETTs: Denis, James, and Patrick. One of these HARTNETTs, perhaps Denis, was the grandfather of Mary Hartnett and the other two were her father's brothers, her uncles. Denis HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Ballybraher. He had 20 acres, 7 perches and 2 acres, 3 roods, 36 perches. James HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Ballylongane. He had 24 acres, 3 roods, 9 perches and 2 acres, 1 rood, 11 perches. Patrick HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Monagurra. He had Herd's house and 15 acres, 4 perches and 42 acres, 17 perches. Monagurra and Ballybraher are adjoining townlands while Ballylongane is between Shanagarry and Garryvoe. The 1766 census of Cloyne has one "HARNETT". His religion is noted as "Papist". There are no HARTNETTs listed in Ballybraher or Carrigkilter. There is a John Hartnett listed in Ballycotton and several Hartnett's in or around Ballyandreen. John Hartnett is listed as the father of Mary Catherine Hartnett on her death certificate. The HARTNETTs are most likely buried in the Mogeely Cemetery. > > I don't have any information concerning ANN FLYNN and MARY DUHIG. > > This is what I know about ANN FLYNN: > > Johanna Flynn appears in the records as Ann, Johanna and Nancy > Flynn (Flinn and Fling)! She was most likely from Ballyandreen. > There are Flynns still represented there. She is most likely > buried in the ancestral Dorgan cemetery at Ballymacoda Hill > Cemetery, Shanagarry, East Cork where the name Johanna appears on > one of the two gravestones. > > There is a church baptismal record that Patrick and Nancy (synonym > for Ann and Johannah) Dorgan were the godparents of Michael John > Shinnick who was born December 18, 1873 in Ballycatoo, Midleton, > Cloyne, County Cork. He was baptized in St. Colman's Church, > Cloyne on December 20, 1873. His parents were John Shinnick of > Ballycatoo, East County Cork and Elizabeth Dorgan of Ballybraher, > Parish of Cloyne, East County Cork. John Shinnick and Elizabeth > Dorgan were married about 1872. Elizabeth Dorgan was the daughter > of Patrick Dargan and Ann (Nancy, Johannah) Flynn. > > > This is what I know about MARY DUHIG: > > Mary Duhig (Duffy in English) most likely came from Ballymacoda. > Mary Duhig is listed as the mother of Mary Catherine Hartnett on > Mary Catherine’s death certificate. > > > ANY HELP APPRECIATED. > > > > BILL DORGAN > email: billdorgan@billdorgan.com > website: www.billdorgan.com > > > > > >

"In the 1880s, the Land Reform Acts went into effect sponsored by Michael Davitt of the Irish Parliament and later by Charles Stewart Parnell a member of the House of Commons of the English Parliament. The Land Acts sought reform in three areas called the three F's: Freedom of Rent, Freedom of Tenure and Freedom from Eviction without trial. Amazingly, the Protestant landowners peacefully went back to England in the 1880s and 1890s never to return to their estates. The tenant farmers continued to pay their rents to the State in the 1880s and 1890s. After the 1920s the State made these tenant farmers the actual "owners" of the lands they once leased!" One thing to consider is that many Protestants left before that time too. My own Johnston family is a good example. They were "enticed" by the government in London to leave Scotland and go to Ireland. When they got to Ireland they weren't blind. They could see the "inequities" and the resulting "bad feelings". As a result we had one generation of our Johnston family born in Ireland. Some who couldn't move on for various reasons stayed and died off. The others went to Upper Canada and prospered. Our old people talked only about the "bad situation" and their desire to put it in their past. There were no harsh feelings toward the Irish at all. Indeed, some married Irish natives (if that's the proper way to put it). Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay

I know this is a long-shot but would anyone involved in the Cork list have any knowledge of the family tree of the callaghan family who owned Callaghan Woolen Mills in Blarney. I may be mistaken about where the mills are located as I am relying upon memory. Since my great grandfather was Daniel Callahan and was born in Blarney in April of 1958 I am wondering if there was any connection. Thanks for all help. Cathy

Hi, Trying to find information on the Ahakeera National School. My grandfather attended the school and I believe my great grandmother may have also taught there. His name was Jeremiah Buckley and hers was Mary Buckley. Any help would be greatly appreciated. How can I also get copies of school records? Thanks, Peggy

Peggy, Check out www.seanruad.com the Irish Townlands database it contains an entry in county Cork Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Ahakeera 620 Cork, W.R. East Carbery (W.D.) Fanlobbus Dunmanway Munster You might want to take a look at Jean Prendergasts site at www.corkancestors.com, she has extracted records from various sources that might be of use to you. Someone, on the Irish Newsgroup, posted some extracts from a book that listed what was available in the way of school records etc but I can't remember her name. Perhaps someone on this list may also remember. John -----Original Message----- From: kellykarp@comcast.net [mailto:kellykarp@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:08 PM To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ahakeera Hi, Trying to find information on the Ahakeera National School. My grandfather attended the school and I believe my great grandmother may have also taught there. His name was Jeremiah Buckley and hers was Mary Buckley. Any help would be greatly appreciated. How can I also get copies of school records? Thanks, Peggy ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== Searchable archives for IRL-CORK can be found at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=irl-cork ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Interesting Proposal ! Pádraig Mór An Sean Ghabair ***** Replies to the LIST ONLY - Thanks ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: buying certs vs. copies of registrations > > Actually, Brendan, a copy of the civil registration will cost 1.90 Euro, > and a full cert would be 6.98 Euro, and I am delighted to learn the > exchange rate is reasonable. Finally, this is something I know Irish! > > It must be time for me to travel there! I am searching for a partner to > help with research and driving. > > Candi in California > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Jones [mailto:brendanj@gofree.indigo.ie] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:05 AM > To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Conroy > > Hi Barbara, > Go to www.groireland.ie > A full birth cert will cost 1.98 Euro > At present One Euro is worth 1.17 US Dollars. > > Regards, > > Brendan. > > > > > > Hi Listers My Grandmother was born on January 26 1874 Cork #1 North > East > > Cork Ireland Father Michael Mother Margaret Coghlan . Where would I > write > > to for a Birth Cert. and would you know price in U.S. currency.Would > Barbara

Hi Barbara, Sorry. The full birth cert will you 7.98 Euro not 1.98. Regards, Brendan.

I spoke too soon! Thanks, Brendan! Candi in sunny but nippy Northern California -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Jones [mailto:brendanj@gofree.indigo.ie] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:54 AM To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Conroy Hi Barbara, Sorry. The full birth cert will you 7.98 Euro not 1.98. Regards, Brendan.

Actually, Brendan, a copy of the civil registration will cost 1.90 Euro, and a full cert would be 6.98 Euro, and I am delighted to learn the exchange rate is reasonable. Finally, this is something I know Irish! It must be time for me to travel there! I am searching for a partner to help with research and driving. Candi in California -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Jones [mailto:brendanj@gofree.indigo.ie] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:05 AM To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Conroy Hi Barbara, Go to www.groireland.ie A full birth cert will cost 1.98 Euro At present One Euro is worth 1.17 US Dollars. Regards, Brendan. > Hi Listers My Grandmother was born on January 26 1874 Cork #1 North East > Cork Ireland Father Michael Mother Margaret Coghlan . Where would I write > to for a Birth Cert. and would you know price in U.S. currency.Would Barbara ______________________________

A full certified birth document will cost Euro 6.98. A photocopy is cheaper and better - no transcriptions errors - is Euro3.81. But withy full references it is only Euro1.90l The full reference can be had by searching at the LDS for the year (1874) mentioned by Barbara- She will need the Registration District (which she said is Cork #1), the Page and Volume numbers. Pádraig Mór An Sean Ghabair ***** Replies to the LIST ONLY - Thanks ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Jones" <brendanj@gofree.indigo.ie> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:04 AM Subject: Re: Conroy > Hi Barbara, > Go to www.groireland.ie > A full birth cert will cost 1.98 Euro > At present One Euro is worth 1.17 US Dollars. > > Regards, > > Brendan. > > > > > > Hi Listers My Grandmother was born on January 26 1874 Cork #1 North > East > > Cork Ireland Father Michael Mother Margaret Coghlan . Where would I > write > > to for a Birth Cert. and would you know price in U.S. currency.Would > Barbara > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Searchable archives for IRL-CORK can be found at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=irl-cork > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/05 > >

Hi Barbara, Go to www.groireland.ie A full birth cert will cost 1.98 Euro At present One Euro is worth 1.17 US Dollars. Regards, Brendan. > Hi Listers My Grandmother was born on January 26 1874 Cork #1 North East > Cork Ireland Father Michael Mother Margaret Coghlan . Where would I write > to for a Birth Cert. and would you know price in U.S. currency.Would Barbara

Hi Listers My Grandmother was born on January 26 1874 Cork #1 North East Cork Ireland Father Michael Mother Margaret Coghlan . Where would I write to for a Birth Cert. and would you know price in U.S. currency.Would appreciate any information you can give me .She at some time sailed to Boston Massachusetts. Thank You for reading my message. Barbara babrahoc5@aol.com

I am trying to find information on the Paterson family. I presume they lived in Middleton as their daughter, Ann Paterson was b. 1796 in that town. She had a sister, Elizabeth Paterson. The parents names are unknown. She was married in the Church of Ireland, Carrigrohane, in 1818 to David John Thomson, who was a British soldier in the Royal Artillery. The sister, Elizabeth Paterson was married to James Purvis, also a soldier in the British army. Bonnie

I continue to look for the origins of Philip Crowley, his wife Ellen Dineen, and daughter Hanora who came to Cohoes NY in 1838. Anybody with info or leads?

Folks, Anyone know of any Crowleys that came to the Portland Maine area? Or a Daniel that went to Boston? david ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Jones" <brendanj@gofree.indigo.ie> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Margaret Crowley,born Enniskean,County Cork,Circa 1860 > Hi Garrett, > > Try the following: > > Very Rev. Michael Nolan PP > Email: micnolan@gofree.indigo.ie > > > Parochial House, > Enniskeane, > Co. Cork > Ireland > > > Regards, > > Brendan Jones. > > > > > > I am trying to obtain a copy of my grandmother's birth certificate.She was > > born in Enniskean in 1860 but I do not have a Catholic parish name. Can > you > > help me? Thank you Garrett Sullivan > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > > Support RootsWeb in data acquisition > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives for IRL-CORK can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/irl-cork > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Kevin- Did the family stay in Cohoes? Perhaps the church they attended would have some records. If they were RC, they may have attended St. Agnes, St. Patrick's, St. Bernard's, St. Joseph's, St. Michael's, or St. Rita's. St. Agnes, and St. Pat's were combined into Holy Trinity. St. Agnes, and St. Bernard's are two of the oldest. Have you looked for death records? The City of Cohoes can make copies the death certificates -be aware, though, New York State was miserable in their record keeping -the records may say only "born in Ireland". If you are already in Cohoes, I'm preaching to the choir, but if you're not, this stuff may help. Ann