Padraig Mor O'Gealagain said: >The only obvious answer is the Draftee got it all wrong - >didn't he/she? There is only one Co. Limerick, and >likewise, only one Limerick city. It may be the obvious answer, but it's not the only one. I've spent a lot of time over the years puzzling out in which county various Irish placenames occur. Indexing death notices from the 19th century Cork Examiner could be a challenge when it wasn't obvious where the death or burial occurred. I wish I could remember the example I'd like to give, but it was a placename that, if asked, almost any Irish genealogist would say was in county x. It was only after I had made this assumption many times that I discovered it was also the local name for a place in Cork that was not listed that way in the 1851 Index to Townlands, etc., or any other of the standard sources. The source of this Limerick/Cork puzzlement is an online database of WWI draft registrations at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/search.cgi If you enter "Ahern, Norman" you will get a result that shows "his dad b. Limerick Cork Irel." which very likely is not precisely what it says on the original card, but rather what the volunteer who entered the data perceived. I can't be sure until I can get a photocopy of the original card, which by the way should be at the National Archives regional branch in Georgia. Maybe the indexer misread Limerick. Maybe it says Limekiln which was shortened from Limekilnclose and the handwriting was so bad that the only thing that came to mind for the indexer was Limerick. Keep in mind that the volunteer indexer was not necessarily familiar at all with Irish placenames. Yes, the obvious answer is that the record is in error, but when was obvious ever the primary adjective applied to Irish genealogy? -dja

Hi Listers, Got the spelling of Ardnageehy wrong! Think there may have been a graveyard at Glanmire and well. Ancestor Thomas Cleary died in 1851 at Ashtongrove in the townland of Ballingohig Cork. Possibly buried in Coolnacaha or Ardnageehy or Glanmire graveyard. He was the Master of the Muskerry Hounds. The name was sometimes spelt CLERY. Does anyone know if the burial records for these places have been transcribed, or does any one know of a researcher that can check these cemetery records? Any help desperately needed and gratefully received. Erin New Zealand

The only obvious answer is the Draftee got it all wrong - didn't he/she? There is only one Co. Limerick, and likewise, only one Limerick city. **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. Padraig An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: a Limerick in County Cork? > > A WWI draft record refers to someone's father as being from Limerick, > Cork, Ireland. Has anyone ever heard of any Limerick placename in county > Cork? I've seen instances where births that occurred in County Cork were > registered with a Registrar's District over the line in County Limerick, > but the person in question was born before the start of Civil > Registration. Any ideas? > > -dja > > > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives for IRL-CORK can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/irl-cork > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/06 > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 306 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

A WWI draft record refers to someone's father as being from Limerick, Cork, Ireland. Has anyone ever heard of any Limerick placename in county Cork? I've seen instances where births that occurred in County Cork were registered with a Registrar's District over the line in County Limerick, but the person in question was born before the start of Civil Registration. Any ideas? -dja

Hi Listers, Can anyone please tell me if the Coolnacaha and Arnageehy graveyards have been transcribed. Would like to find the grave of my Thomas John CLERY/CLEARY who died at his home Ashton Grove townland Ballingohig near Watergrass Hill County Cork. Any help regarding the location of these records gratefully received. Has anyone heard of Rochestown House Rochestown down from Cork and near Doulgas in county Cork? Mr J Clery resided there in 1914? Many thanks, Erin New Zealand

Thanks Pete and Dennis, at least I know there was more than one, what looked an unusual name to me ends up being one of many. Jeanette lee

"O'Kief Coshe Mange..." by Albert Casey Now this is what one might term the "researchers research!" Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:34:14 -0400 From: Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Casey bibliography website http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi_published/casey.htm Casey bibliography of North Cork; "O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve Lougher and the Upper Blackwater" "If you can reach a major library, and you have a large magnifying glass, you can try research some of this information yourself. The images are photocopies and small. You may get a clue about things you had not thought to put on your research list! Check the Indexes and contents published in O'Kief Coshe Mange by Albert Casey. It is usually available at large Genealogical Centres, large University libraries and large City libraries." "...For it contains Roman Catholic (RC), Church of Ireland (CofI) and Quaker births, marriages and death records, Tombstone inscriptions, newspaper abstracts, Civil Documents, Court Records and whole lot more on: * 1. The primary area up until the year 1900 (and a bit beyond). * 2. All of Cork and Kerry before 1825. * 3. All of Munster before 1625. * 4. All of Ireland before 1182. Some of the early records purport to go back right to Adam and Eve (ah, give me a break). * 5. Some really arcane and jaundiced stuff on blood types, skull sizes (remember Casey was a pathologist), ancient writings and world pre-history. * 6. Some very interesting maps, a few photographs and some culture, history and emigration pieces. * 7. Copies of Tithe and Griffiths Valuations House-holder lists and maps for some areas (say, whoever bombed the Public Records office and destroyed those census papers? They sure did make life difficult). * 8. Copies of some of the classic Irish histories, some with parallel translations from the Gaelic and Medieval Latin for the extremely serious genealogists among you." * Locations include the LDS Genealogical Society Library, Salt Lake City, UT

Jeanette Lee <JeanetteLee@bigpond.com> asked: >I hope someone on the list can help me identify where in Ireland >Ballinvoher is located. The 1851 Index to Townlands, Parishes, etc. lists 20 Ballinvoher townlands. They are in counties Cork, Galway, Kerry, King's, Limerick, Longford, Mayo, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary and Waterford. None of them are in a parish of Ballinhover. -dja

Jeanette at JeanetteLee@bigpond.com writes: << I hope someone on the list can help me identify where in Ireland Ballinvoher is located. >> Jeanette, As with many of Ireland's more-than 62,000 townlands - there are bound to be duplications. There are 18 listings on seanruad.com for plain Ballinvoher townlands, in 11 counties. There is only the one civil parish of Ballinvoher, on the southern coast of the Dingle peninsula.....but it no longer contains a Ballinvoher townland. According to the Dingle Peninsula Archaeological Survey, "the name Ballinvoher is also applied to the immediate environs of the village in Ballyandreen townland." The graveyard and site of the medieval parish church of Ballinvoher is located in the townland of Rathduff. I tried to visit this church last month, but the washed-out roads and relentless rain finally forced me to leave the area before reaching the site. The Ballinvoher townland in Co. Cork you appear to have selected is nearly 2 square miles in area, and stretches from about a mile and a half NNE of the village of Kilworth, out to about four miles NNE of Kilworth. Kilworth is about 3 miles NNE of Fermoy town. If you need additional info, I'm off to marginally-celebrate my 50th college class reunion for the next couple of days, but will be back by Friday. .............................................................................. ... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

GDAY All:) Found these Families on CERTIFIED Copies of Extracts from the 1821/1841/1851 Irish Census FHL British Film 101767 Families on Crownland of Pobble O'Keefe County Cork 24/Sept/1834 EDmond Fitzgerald...48..Farmer Honora Fitzgerald...39..Wife William Fitzgerald...23...son John Fitzgerald....22..Son Mary Fitzgerald..18..Daughter Helen Fitzgerald..16..Daughter Townland...Upper Caraganes Robert MCAuliffe....52..Farmer Richard McAulifee....24...Son John MCAuliffe..22..Son Denny MCAuliffe...19..Son Julian MCAuliffe..15..Son Timothy MCAuliffe...13..Son Johanna MCAuliffe....10..Daughter Michael MCAuliffe.....7...Son Townland....Upper CaRAGANES Michael Roach...54..Farmer Mary Roach..40..Wife Catherine Roach..19..Daughter John Roach...17..Son Mary Roach..14..Daughter David Roach..13...son Julian Roach...10..Son Toby Roach..8..Son Michael Roach..5....son Margaret Roach...1..Daughter John Roach..54..Farmer Mary Roach...Wife...42 Mary Roach..20..Daughter Michael Roach..18..Son David Roach..17....Son Julia Roach..12..Daughter Catherine Roach..11...Daughter John Roach..8..Son Margaret Roach,,8..Daughter..(twins) Toby Roach..5..Son Townland..Carraganeen Toby David Roach..40..Farmer Helen Roach...wife..32 Margaret Roach..11..Daughter Mary Roach..8..Daughter Townland....Lower Carragananes John Fowley...44..Farmer Helen Fowley...34..Wife Catherine Fowley..15...Daughter Helen Fowley..13....Daughter Mary Fowley...12..Daughter Margartet Fowley..10..Daughter Honora Fowley..8..Daughter John Fowley...6..son Daniel Fowley...5..Son Johanna Fowley...3..Daughter Patrick Fowley..1..son Owen Sullivan..Farmer..40 Julian Sullivan..Wife..36 Daniel Sullivan..son..12 Mary Sullivan..daughter....10 Catherine Sullivan...Daughter...8 Patrick Sullivan...Son..5 Patrick Sullivan...36..Farmer Catherine Sullivan..28..Wife Michael Sullivan..5..Son Helen Sullivan..3...Daughter Matthew Denahy..Farmer..36 Mary Denahy..Wife...28 Mary Denahy...Daughter..5 Daniel Denahy..Son..3 Helen Denahy..Daughter..1 Helen Sullivan..Mother In Law..60 Townland...Lower TureenCreagh Timothy Leary..Farmer..54 Margaret Leary..Wife..49 Cornelius Leary...Son..22 Julian Leary...Son..19 Timothy Leary..Son..18 Mary Leary...Daughter..16 Patrick Leary..Son..14 Margaret Leary...Daughter..12 Catherine Leary..Daughter...9 Townland..Upper TurreenCreagh Bartholomew Dinleigh...Farmer..44 Julia Dinleigh..Wife..40 Patrick Dinleigh..son..17 Dennis Dinleigh..Son...14 John Dinleigh..son..13 Darby Dinleigh..Son...11 Owen Dinleigh...Son..8 Mary Dinleigh..Daughter..7 Gubby Dinleigh..Son..5 Bartholomew Dinleigh..3 Dennis Murphy..Farmer..60 Helen Murphy...Wife..54 Dennis Murphy..son..34 Betty Murphy..sons wife..22 Daniel Murphy..25..Son James Murphy...Son..23 Helen Murphy...daughter..17 Darby Murphy..son..17 There are Quite a Few Families Listed in this Pobble O'Keefe Area in Cork, On this film, If Time Permits will List Some more, Next Time i Go to Mormon Resource centre..If any of the Families Listed Appear Familiar i Would suggest u Order in film, as it is A good one Regards cathy:) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I hope someone on the list can help me identify where in Ireland Ballinvoher is located. I looked in Sean Raud and it says: Townland: Ballinvoher County: Cork E.R. Barony: Condon & Clagibbon Civil Parish: Kilworth PLU: Fermoy Province: Muster But Genuki says: Civil Parish: Ballinvoher County: Kerry Barony: Corkaguiney PLU: Dingle Province: Munster under townland there are 18 different names. I really am very confused I was looking at "Families of County Cork" author Michael C. O'Laughlin, for the surnames Russell & McDonnell (my GGG's) and the area of Kilworth appeared to be the one place where they both were in the 1851 Census, that I think most probably refers to the Griffith valuation or is there another 1851 Census Source? Many thanks Jeanette Lee Western Australia Researching in Cork Ireland for Russell, McDonnell, Nihane, Corrigan, Walsh. Armagh, Dowd Donegal, McGhee & McLennan/ Lellan Offally, McIntrye/Entire

I am tracing my husband's family and his gggggrandmother came out as, we think, a Famine Orphan on the John Knox. She was Catherine Murphy. Any suggestions on tracing her roots. She came from Cork. Many thanks Marie

I would like to encourage everyone with a CALLAGHAN surname and ancestry to take part in the Y chromosone DNA test (37 marker test ideally) so see we we can find any common ancesters. If anyone has done so please contact me. Regards Tim

I'd be interested to hear about any CALLAGHANs (or similar) whose ancesters moved to England at any point or who are still living in Ireland. Regards Tim

HI. I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself. My name is Robin and I am trying to trace my husband's McAuliffe family in Ireland. Most accounts state that the McAuliffe clan is primarily from County Cork but I know that is not nearly enough information to start looking for them. His great grandfather was Simon McAuliff who settled in the Tivoli/Red Hook Area of New York State. He came from Ireland, I believe in 1850, via the Port of New York. From looking at later census records, I have figured out that he never became a US citizen so those records are not available to find a more specific locale. If anyone on the list is a McAuliff(e) or researching the family, I would be delighted to hear from you. Warm regards, Robin McAuliffe Summerville, SC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Angel, A few things you might look for on the US side that may help you leap across the Atlantic. Can you locate the death or marriage certificates (civil and church) of the ones who came to the US. I know in the 1900s some NYC death certificates listed both parent's names (including maiden name) and where they came from. Some may say Ireland but others may be more specific. In the US census data see if there was anyone else who stayed with them as a border, such as a Irish nephew or an in-law, particularly in later years. Perhaps the immigration information on the nephew or in-law may list the townland or village where the family came from. Perhaps US birth and marriage information (NY church info at that time may be more useful than civil records) may have the mother's maiden name. Assuming she came from the same area in Ireland and the names aren't too common you may find the family in Griffith's. Cheers, Ray FitzGerald Researching FITZGERALD, DUNNE, O'REGAN and KIRK IN DONERAILE/KILDORRERY area of Cork From: MMayn93990@aol.com To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4b1.e22266.31b2119f@aol.com> Subject: Re: Canty Family I need some help..a lot of help I think. I've traced the Canty frmily from 1850 to 2006, but I'm stuck beyond the shores of the USA. Oral history says this family was from Cork. I assume they left during the famine because they first appear in the 1850 USA (New York) Census. Is there anyone with advise on how to trace them to Cork (since I have no other informatuon) or is anyone a part of the Canty family?

Samuel Nash of Bandon, Co. Cork, married Bridget Canty. Based on census records she was born about 1810 - 1813. Samuel and Bridget came to US about 1849 and settled in Saranac, Clinton Co. NY where Samuel's mother and siblings had settled between 1845 and 1849. In a message dated 6/2/2006 12:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, AngelTardif@aol.com writes: Dear Listers, I need some help..a lot of help I think. I've traced the Canty frmily from 1850 to 2006, but I'm stuck beyond the shores of the USA. Oral history says this family was from Cork. I assume they left during the famine because they first appear in the 1850 USA (New York) Census. Is there anyone with advise on how to trace them to Cork (since I have no other informatuon) or is anyone a part of the Canty family? Mary Slack Maynard Visit my blog at: _http://marysblog.livejournal.com_ (http://marysblog.livejournal.com/) and feel free to add your comments, questions and genealogy. Information on the site is never to be used, given or sold to any entity that charges for access to it.

Dear Listers, I need some help..a lot of help I think. I've traced the Canty frmily from 1850 to 2006, but I'm stuck beyond the shores of the USA. Oral history says this family was from Cork. I assume they left during the famine because they first appear in the 1850 USA (New York) Census. Is there anyone with advise on how to trace them to Cork (since I have no other informatuon) or is anyone a part of the Canty family? 1850 Census: Michael Canty (possibly Michael R. Canty), 36, a confectioner (candy maker), his wife Anne 24 (no maiden name) and Johanna Canty, 59 (no relationship listed). All born in Ireland. (Michael and Anne have a 3 month old son Thomas born in New York). Also in the household are Caniel Canty, 23, a confectioner too, and Cornelius McCarty, 20, also a confectioner. No relationships are given in the 1850 Census. There next door neighbors are John Canty, 32, a cabinet maker, and his wife Elisabeth 29. Again, no relationships are given. Most of these folks moved on to San Francisco. Thanks for any comments. Angel in San Francisco

That's fab. Thanks very much guys. I have it spelt Drinagh but since it's the same pronunciation the person completing the Army form could have easily spelt it wrong. This might be why there was no record of my Timothy Francis O'Connor b25/04/1887 in Drinagh, perhaps sometimes less is more for searches at the records office and they may have found it if I hadn't given them the parish. Your info may also help me find "The Grange" - a family dwelling around 1805. Many thanks, Sarah >From: PeteScherm@aol.com >To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Is Drinagh near Buttevant? >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:27:01 EDT > >Sarah at historyof0connor@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Does anyone know of the parish of Drinagh? I have an army form that >records it being near the town of Buttevant >> > >Sarah, > >The smallish townlands of Dreenagh East and West lie between 3 and 4 miles >west of Buttevant town, just south of the R 580 road between Buttevant and >Kanturk town. >.............................................................................. >... >Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > > >==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger 7.5 today! http://join.msn.com/messenger/overview

Sarah at historyof0connor@hotmail.com writes: << Does anyone know of the parish of Drinagh? I have an army form that records it being near the town of Buttevant >> Sarah, The smallish townlands of Dreenagh East and West lie between 3 and 4 miles west of Buttevant town, just south of the R 580 road between Buttevant and Kanturk town. .............................................................................. ... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts