Forwarding this from another list. Please contact your Mass. legislator regarding the following bills that would restrict access to Mass. vital records. Out of state calls welcome too - let them know open access to records gains your travel dollars for research visits. Help keep open access to vital records and call today! Please forward to other Massachusetts lists if you belong to them. Thanks! MASSACHUSETTS GENEALOGICAL COUNCIL (MGC) > P.O. Box 5393 > Cochituate, MA 01778 > www.massgencouncil.org > > ALERT ALERT ALERT > > MGC urges all genealogists who care about access to vital records to act > now! > > Legislative bills (H-3642, H-3643, and H-3644, petitioned by Plymouth > Rep. Thomas J. O’Brien, et al.), currently pending in the Massachusetts > House Ways and Means Committee, are being pushed for passage within two > weeks. They will close public records that have been open for nearly 400 > years as well as the indexes to them. > > We all must contact our Massachusetts state Representatives and Senators > to oppose these three (O’Brien) bills for the following reasons: > > The bills call for restricting access to all birth records since 1915 > and all marriage and death records since 1955. These records are > currently open public records and are the entry point for genealogical > and medical history research. > Restricting public access to the indexes of these records is > unprecedented. It will deny use by all non-governmental individuals: > researchers in genealogy, medical history, probate heirs, banks, > journalists, and historians. > > Contact should be made immediately. We stopped these bills in 2003 – but > now support for them in the legislature is formidable. > > If YOU don’t speak now, these bills will change the face of genealogy in > Massachusetts and beyond. > MOST EFFECTIVE: a signed letter with your reasons for opposing these > closures, using your own words. > To view a sample letter for your legislators, click here > http://home.comcast.net/~massgencouncil/ConstituentLetter.htm > > ALSO: telephone calls, face to face meetings, and e-mails. > > SHARE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT: urge your sympathetic relatives, friends, > neighbors, and the professionals listed above to do the same. > > Contact information for your representatives and senators is available at: > http://www.mass.gov/legis/ > your town clerk > the state house at (617) 722-2000 > the postal address is: > Representative (or Senator) _______, State House, Room _______, Boston, > MA 02133. > > If you have any questions, please respond to Sharon Sergeant, MGC > Director of Programs, and member of the MGC Civil Records Committee or > visit our website at www.massgencouncil.org ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

The LDS store of Griffith's Tenure, Land, House Books is at: www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframes et.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=1149346&disp=Valuation+ books%20%20&columns=*,0,0 **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. Padraig An Sean Gabhar -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 406 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

We'll be visiting Cork, especially the Glanworth and Donoughmore to research ancestors and I'd appreciate any suggestions on nice places to stay. Thanks....Maryann

Hi LIsters, Does anyone go to St Finbarrs Cemetery? Or does anyone know of anyone who can go there? Would like a photo of a grave. Have Row and plot number. Any help greatly appreciated. Erin New Zealand.

GDAY:) Im in Australia Researching my Direct D'ACRE Line that went from France to Ireland..Several Changed Name to DEAKER Have a DEAKER Marrying a BENNET In Clonakilty Co Cork Anyone Either Researching this Family, or D'ACRE(DEAKER) In Ireland Thanks Regards Cathy:) --------------------------------- The LOST Ninja blog: Exclusive clues, clips and gossip.

Hi I wonder if anyone has come across the surname UVEDALE in their research. I have an ancestor RALPH UVEDALE born 1747 (according to his tombstone - he died abroad) . My gut feeling is that he was Irish -and that he or his family were possibly from Cork. Can anyone help? Any clue - no matter how tiny would be appreciated. Many thanks Beverly

Hi Listers, Does anyone do photographs of headstones at St Finbarrs Cemetery Cork. Have Row and Plot numbers . Any help appreciated. Erin from New Zealand

Kevin Thanks for getting back on the census look-ups. I had requested Forde. I have been unable to get to your site Back2DFuture to look at the info. I copied and pasted several times but AOL keeps shutting down. Please advise where I can read the info you found. Thanks Liz

Kevin, I don't know if there was somewho who was specifically interested in the Dinan information but I would love a copy of whatever Dinan information you have. I have William and Mary Dinan's scattered throughout my tree. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin mccormack" <kevinmcc59@eircom.net> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: Dinan > Here is the census return for William Dinan of Boolimore , Rathard? > It is difficult to read in places so I shall just leave a question mark if > unsure. > Mary Dinan ? R.C. Cannot read 55 f Housekeeper wid. Co Cork > > Patrick Dinan son R C ? 36? m ? not marr. co cork > William Dinan son R C ? 17 M GEN LAB. N/M co cork > I went to the trouble of getting a photo copy and you are welcome to it if > you wish. Regards,Kevin. Co Cork > http://groups.msn.com/Back2DFuture A genealogy group. > > - --------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts >

Here is the census return for William Dinan of Boolimore , Rathard? It is difficult to read in places so I shall just leave a question mark if unsure. Mary Dinan ? R.C. Cannot read 55 f Housekeeper wid. Co Cork Patrick Dinan son R C ? 36? m ? not marr. co cork William Dinan son R C ? 17 M GEN LAB. N/M co cork I went to the trouble of getting a photo copy and you are welcome to it if you wish. Regards,Kevin. Co Cork http://groups.msn.com/Back2DFuture A genealogy group. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Hi List! I am a new subscriber. I am researching the family of my direct ancestor MATTHEW LESLIE born in 1755 in Cork. He was the son of CHARLES AND ANN LESLIE. Matthew had three brothers, CHARLES HENRY LESLIE, JAMES LESLIE and JOHN LESLIE and three sisters - one of whom married Samuel FALKINER and was the mother of a Sir Riggs Falkiner. I am trying to find out more about Matthew Leslie who died a fabulously wealthy man in India in 1804- having assets in India and Ireland. I wonder if his brother is the CHARLES HENRY LESLIE who founded the Gunpowder mills in Ballincollig. It is said that this Charles Henry Leslie bought out his partner in 1804 - and, by coincidence, that is the year of my Matthew Leslie's death and his will leaves his brother Charles a handsome legacy. Could it be the same Charles? Is anyone researching this family or can anyone tell me more about the family of Charles Henry Leslie of Leslie's Cross, Wilton (founder of the Gunpowder Mills and later Leslie's Bank) so that I might determine whether there is a link between my Matthew Leslie and his brother, Charles HenryLeslie. Thanking you Beverly

Hello All, I believe i mentioned that I was unable to get to Dublin on this occassion but I shall be going later in the summer and shall post again reg. that. I have just got back from the ref. library for the 1901 census and to be honest i made a few mistakes......again I shall make a return visit. I have the followinf for now and if you do not see your interest amongst them I shall make an attempt in the future. Forde of Cloughphillip, Tower , Blarney. ( not sure if yours but only ones I could find. For Peggy in OZ...... O'/Leary might be yours. Holland and French Of Ballinacurra Winkle and Nagle of Kanturk William Dinan of Boolimore F. Howard of City Jail rd. John Cronin of Charleville Good of Macroom with Bradfield's I hope this helps some bit. Sorry to those of you who I couldn't help this time. Regards,Kevin, Co Cork. http://groups.msn.com/Back2DFuture A genealogy group. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Seeking birth, parentage, and sibling information for Patrick A. Fitzpatrick, a Catholic. According to his US naturalization documents he was born in Kanturk, County Cork around 1861. Parents were Dennis Fitzpatrick (birthplace unknown, Ireland) and Bridget Eagan (sp?) birthplace, County Cork according to her 1908 US death record. Thanks for all assistance. Cheryl Doran Girard Family Archivist Doran, Fitzpatrick, Hubbard and Heyworths of Methuen, Lawrence and North Andover, Massachusetts Telephone: 707-865-1181 Fax: 707-865-1182 Electronic mail: fyrmom@sonic.net

In a message dated 6/12/2006 3:02:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, IRL-CORK-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Here is an interesting link of advertisements published in the Boston Pilot: > > http://infowanted.bc.edu/ > > Maria Richter unfortunatly it isnt accurate Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project

> Here is an interesting link of advertisements published > in the Boston Pilot: > > http://infowanted.bc.edu/ If you do not find what you are looking for, it doesn't mean it isn't there. This database is only an index and if you check the pull-down menu that shows what years have been included, you will see there are gaps. This is an ongoing project at BC and some day it will be complete, but in the meantime don't forget this series is available in book form at some public Libraries and available for purchase from the New England Historical and Genealogical Society. Each volume is indexed by names mentioned in each ad, both searcher and searchee, as well as related persons, such as next-of-kin and even lodging keepers where mail can be sent, and also by placenames in Ireland and in countries where people have gone, including Australia, Canada, and elsewhere. See http://tiara.ie/missing.html for more information about the Search for Missing Friends series. -dja

Cross-posted from the Clare List **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. Padraig An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Richter" <krmathman@earthlink.net> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: [CLARE] database > Here is an interesting link of advertisements published in the Boston Pilot: > > http://infowanted.bc.edu/ > > Maria Richter -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 332 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

While the card at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/normanahern.jpg looks like it says "Limerick Lane Cork Ireland" the street index for Cork City at http://www.corkcorp.ie/maps/ doesn't show any such street. I also checked a list of obsolete street names for Cork City and there's no Limerick Lane. -dja

I occurred to me later, Denis, that long before main routes between principal towns and cities were given numbers for identification, such roads would be simply referred to, for example, if one were in Cork, as the Limerick Road, even the part leading out of the city, so might your Draftee's father have given his address as : Limerick Road, Cork, but in transcription the word 'Road' was omitted. I don't know, if there was such a road being part of Cork city. **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. Padraig An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Padraig Mor O'Gealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: Re: a Limerick in County Cork? > The only obvious answer is the Draftee got it all wrong - > didn't he/she? There is only one Co. Limerick, and > likewise, only one Limerick city. > > **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. > > Padraig > An Sean Gabhar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> > To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:00 AM > Subject: a Limerick in County Cork? > > > > > > A WWI draft record refers to someone's father as being > from Limerick, > > Cork, Ireland. Has anyone ever heard of any Limerick > placename in county > > Cork? I've seen instances where births that occurred in > County Cork were > > registered with a Registrar's District over the line in > County Limerick, > > but the person in question was born before the start of > Civil > > Registration. Any ideas? > > > > -dja -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 324 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Dennis Ahern wrote: > Padraig Mor O'Gealagain said: > >> The only obvious answer is the Draftee got it all wrong - >> didn't he/she? There is only one Co. Limerick, and >> likewise, only one Limerick city. > > It may be the obvious answer, but it's not the only one. I've spent a lot of > time over the years puzzling out in which county various Irish placenames > occur. Indexing death notices from the 19th century Cork Examiner could be a > challenge when it wasn't obvious where the death or burial occurred. I wish I > could remember the example I'd like to give, but it was a placename that, if > asked, almost any Irish genealogist would say was in county x. It was only > after I had made this assumption many times that I discovered it was also the > local name for a place in Cork that was not listed that way in the 1851 Index > to Townlands, etc., or any other of the standard sources. > > The source of this Limerick/Cork puzzlement is an online database of WWI > draft registrations at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/search.cgi > If you enter "Ahern, Norman" you will get a result that shows "his dad b. > Limerick Cork Irel." which very likely is not precisely what it says on the > original card, but rather what the volunteer who entered the data perceived. > I can't be sure until I can get a photocopy of the original card, which by > the way should be at the National Archives regional branch in Georgia. Maybe > the indexer misread Limerick. Maybe it says Limekiln > which was shortened from Limekilnclose and the handwriting was so bad that > the only thing that came to mind for the indexer was Limerick. Keep in mind > that the volunteer indexer was not necessarily familiar at all with Irish > placenames. Yes, the obvious answer is that the record is in error, but when > was obvious ever the primary adjective applied to Irish genealogy? Someone on this list kindly sent me a picture of Norman Ahern's draft card, probably off of Ancetry.com. I've put it online at the Ahern website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/normanahern.jpg It looks like in answer to Father's Birthplace it could possibly be read as "Limerick Lane Cork Ireland". Was there a Limerick Lane in Cork City? -dja

Just back to genealogy from an unavoidable leave of absence... My heart skipped a beat when I started to read this one. I thought my wall had toppled, what a shame! At this point, can someone tell me if there were ever any records keep of whom an indoor servant would have been indentured to, in Limerick or Cork? (My ancestor was native of Cork, indentured as an indoor servant, and tried in Limerick assizes. Thus, I have always assumed he worked in Limerick, erred and caught in Limerick.) Any ideas, anyone? Lee Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Padraig Mor O'Gealagain [mailto:padraigogealagain@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, 9 June 2006 12:55 AM To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: a Limerick in County Cork? The only obvious answer is the Draftee got it all wrong - didn't he/she? There is only one Co. Limerick, and likewise, only one Limerick city. > A WWI draft record refers to someone's father as being from Limerick, > Cork, Ireland. Has anyone ever heard of any Limerick placename in county > Cork? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/359 - Release Date: 8/06/2006