Good evening list William the son of James and Margaret (Connors married Margaret Hegarty about 1862 I know of one child born 21st June 1863 at Fortgrady her name is Catherine I would like to know of any other children any help would be very much appreciated Mick Mick and Rita Winkle

Good Morning list In my Winkle family tree I have James Connell who married Nora Winkle in 1865 at Dromtarriffe Co Cork they had 4 children William. Andrew. Mary. and James. Regards Mick Mick and Rita Winkle On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:02:47 +1000 "Geoff Connell" <gac99@tadaust.org.au> wrote:

I have an Edmund CONNELL in my Family Tree, but by this time the family are in England - Edmund Kean CONNELL born 3 Nov 1855 Hoxton New Town London who married Caroline KING. My Link to Richard Leader CONNELL is through his son David Germain CONNELL also born in Cork Ireland and he is the father of Edmund Regards Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leta Christiansen" <sfbay2@pacbell.net> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: Re: Richard Leader CONNELL >I have an Ann Connell b abt 1801 Cork, who married Robert Edwards b 1797. >They married 16 Nov 1825 In Cork. I have Ann's parents as Edmund Connell >and Sarah Botterill. Does this ring any bells for you? > > Leta Denny Christiansen > Daly City, California USA > > Great Great Grandaughter of the above mentioned couple.

Is there anyone on the List who is reseaching the name CONNELL, I would like to find out all I can about a Richard Leader CONNELL born Abt. 1758 Cork Ireland. Can anyone Help. Regards Geoff CONNELL gac99@tadaust.org.au Port Sorell Tasmania AUSTRALIA

Hi Sheila There are a few churches in Heene- I'll find out if there is a Catholic one. I'm checking the 1933 directory for Linda, so let me know if you want me to look up an address or person in the Worthing Directories in the local library. Best wishes Gill Worthing, were it's always sunny -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sheila Bransfield Sent: 27 September 2006 14:43 To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Worthing Gill I noticed your offer of help to Linda. I live in Kent, so it's not far away, but far enough that it's difficult to "pop down" for a quick search. Do you know if there are any records for Heene, Worthing around 1837 to 1839? A Catholic church that was around at the time might be a good start. I found a letter written by my ancestor at The National Archive and the address he used was "Heene, Worthing" and no more. I would be grateful for any information. (Perhaps, if I get a good lead, it would be worth spending a day or two there.) Many thanks Sheila ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006

Hi Nellie I'll check it in the library at the weekend. I'll try to get a photo of the house too if I can find it. Best wishes Gill >From sunny Worthing -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Smith Sent: 27 September 2006 14:19 To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Nellie SULLIVAN Hi Gill, That's very kind of you. Would it be possible for you to find out who else was living at 33, Gratwicke Road in Worthing in 1932 - perhaps from a street directory? That may give me a clue to go on! Many thanks, Linda >From: "gilliananne" <gilliananne.thompson@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com >To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >Subject: RE: Nellie SULLIVAN >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:50:35 +0100 > >Hello Linda > >I can't help much with the Irish part, but I live in Worthing. Let me >know if I can look anything up for you here > >Best wishes >Gill > >Looking for Hourihane, Horan, Hourahan from County Cork to Wigan, Lancs >c.1850 > >-----Original Message----- >From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Smith >Sent: 26 September 2006 16:05 >To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com >Subject: Nellie SULLIVAN > > >Hello List, >My name is Linda and I live in Hampshire, England. I have experience in >genealogy but not Irish roots! I'm helping my friend and her mother >(neither of whom have computers) to try >and trace their Irish roots. >All the information we have is as follows: > >Nellie SULLIVAN was born in County Cork about 1906/1907 >She came to England at some point and married Frederick Walter BROWN >on 4th June 1932 at St. Mary of the Angels, Crescent Road, Worthing, >West Sussex. Her father's name is given as John SULLIVAN, a farm >labourer - he was >deceased at the time of her marriage. > >The only other family member known about is Michael SULLIVAN who was >Nellie's brother - no other information is known about him. > >Nellie and Frederick had one child - a daughter Eileen born in 1932 ( >my > >friends mum) who was born in Worthing, West Sussex. > >Can anyone help/advise me with any of this please - they have never >known any of the SULLIVAN family! > >Many thanks. >Linda > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: >25/09/2006 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: >25/09/2006 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006

Hello Listers, Is anyone researching the surname NIHEN (variety of spellings ... NYHAN)? I have a Daniel NIHEN (c. 1801 - 1871) family who left County Cork for Wales (Aberavon) circa 1850. I can trace him in Wales until his death in 1871. Daniel was married to Nancy (c. 1812 - 1876) or "Ann" (Unknown). Children born to this couple were Cornelius (1833), Johanna (1834), William (1835), Ellen (1837), and John (1843). I would like to learn where in Ireland Daniel and family lived. The spelling of the surname in Wales includes the following: NIGHAN, NIGHEN, NEHEEN, NEIN, NYAN, and NEIHEEN. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Nihen Lansford, PA USA

Gill I noticed your offer of help to Linda. I live in Kent, so it's not far away, but far enough that it's difficult to "pop down" for a quick search. Do you know if there are any records for Heene, Worthing around 1837 to 1839? A Catholic church that was around at the time might be a good start. I found a letter written by my ancestor at The National Archive and the address he used was "Heene, Worthing" and no more. I would be grateful for any information. (Perhaps, if I get a good lead, it would be worth spending a day or two there.) Many thanks Sheila

I have an Ann Connell b abt 1801 Cork, who married Robert Edwards b 1797. They married 16 Nov 1825 In Cork. I have Ann's parents as Edmund Connell and Sarah Botterill. Does this ring any bells for you? Leta Denny Christiansen Daly City, California USA Great Great Grandaughter of the above mentioned couple. Geoff Connell <gac99@tadaust.org.au> wrote: Is there anyone on the List who is reseaching the name CONNELL, I would like to find out all I can about a Richard Leader CONNELL born Abt. 1758 Cork Ireland. Can anyone Help. Regards Geoff CONNELL gac99@tadaust.org.au Port Sorell Tasmania AUSTRALIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Leta Denny Christiansen

Hi Gill, That's very kind of you. Would it be possible for you to find out who else was living at 33, Gratwicke Road in Worthing in 1932 - perhaps from a street directory? That may give me a clue to go on! Many thanks, Linda >From: "gilliananne" <gilliananne.thompson@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com >To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >Subject: RE: Nellie SULLIVAN >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:50:35 +0100 > >Hello Linda > >I can't help much with the Irish part, but I live in Worthing. Let me >know if I can look anything up for you here > >Best wishes >Gill > >Looking for Hourihane, Horan, Hourahan from County Cork to Wigan, Lancs >c.1850 > >-----Original Message----- >From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Smith >Sent: 26 September 2006 16:05 >To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com >Subject: Nellie SULLIVAN > > >Hello List, >My name is Linda and I live in Hampshire, England. I have experience in >genealogy but not Irish roots! >I'm helping my friend and her mother (neither of whom have computers) to >try >and trace their Irish roots. >All the information we have is as follows: > >Nellie SULLIVAN was born in County Cork about 1906/1907 >She came to England at some point and married Frederick Walter BROWN on >4th >June 1932 at St. Mary of the Angels, Crescent Road, Worthing, West >Sussex. Her father's name is given as John SULLIVAN, a farm labourer - >he was >deceased at the time of her marriage. > >The only other family member known about is Michael SULLIVAN who was >Nellie's brother - no other information is known about him. > >Nellie and Frederick had one child - a daughter Eileen born in 1932 ( my > >friends mum) who was born in Worthing, West Sussex. > >Can anyone help/advise me with any of this please - they have never >known >any of the SULLIVAN family! > >Many thanks. >Linda > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: >25/09/2006 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: >25/09/2006 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thankyou Dennis - very helpful. Best wishes, Linda >From: Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> >To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com >CC: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Nellie SULLIVAN >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:19:15 -0400 > > >padraigogealagain@rogers.com advised: > >>Yes, go to the LDS Family History Centre nearest you, and check the >>records of civil births - Ireland for the years concerned. First go to >>www.seanruad.com and get a list of the "PLU's" for Co.Cork, take a copy >>of those with you., then at the LDS check first the index of births for >>1906-1907, the Film# is 0101071 - focus on the PLU's (Reg. Dists) of the >>list you have with you. > >Or see http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm for a list of >Registrar's Districts of Ireland where you will find that some districts >cross county lines. It's possible for someone born in one county to be >registered in an adjacent county. > >-dja >

Yes, Dennis, these 'overlap' registration districts can be a problem - if one finds a 'Joe Doe' in Kilmallock, Co.Limerick registration district, one has no way of knowing at the index information level whether he was born, died, or married in few E.R. Co.Cork townlands covered by Kilmallock registration District; likewise in the case of the Mitchelstown, Co.Cork registration district, one has no way, again, at the index level, if he was born, died or married in Co. Limerick. The solution to these anomalies is, of course, the expense of getting the FULL detail record to find that he was not born. died, or married in Co.Cork, but in Co.Limerick. I see no other solution to it. Fortunately the number of townlands of the other county in such overlapped registration districts is small. **** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Cc: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Nellie SULLIVAN > > padraigogealagain@rogers.com advised: > >>Yes, go to the LDS Family History Centre nearest you, and check the >>records of civil births - Ireland for the years concerned. First go to >>www.seanruad.com and get a list of the "PLU's" for Co.Cork, take a copy >>of those with you., then at the LDS check first the index of births for >>1906-1907, the Film# is 0101071 - focus on the PLU's (Reg. Dists) of the >>list you have with you. > > Or see http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm for a list of > Registrar's Districts of Ireland where you will find that some districts > cross county lines. It's possible for someone born in one county to be > registered in an adjacent county. > > -dja

padraigogealagain@rogers.com advised: >Yes, go to the LDS Family History Centre nearest you, and check the >records of civil births - Ireland for the years concerned. First go to >www.seanruad.com and get a list of the "PLU's" for Co.Cork, take a copy >of those with you., then at the LDS check first the index of births for >1906-1907, the Film# is 0101071 - focus on the PLU's (Reg. Dists) of the >list you have with you. Or see http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm for a list of Registrar's Districts of Ireland where you will find that some districts cross county lines. It's possible for someone born in one county to be registered in an adjacent county. -dja

Hello Linda I can't help much with the Irish part, but I live in Worthing. Let me know if I can look anything up for you here Best wishes Gill Looking for Hourihane, Horan, Hourahan from County Cork to Wigan, Lancs c.1850 -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Smith Sent: 26 September 2006 16:05 To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com Subject: Nellie SULLIVAN Hello List, My name is Linda and I live in Hampshire, England. I have experience in genealogy but not Irish roots! I'm helping my friend and her mother (neither of whom have computers) to try and trace their Irish roots. All the information we have is as follows: Nellie SULLIVAN was born in County Cork about 1906/1907 She came to England at some point and married Frederick Walter BROWN on 4th June 1932 at St. Mary of the Angels, Crescent Road, Worthing, West Sussex. Her father's name is given as John SULLIVAN, a farm labourer - he was deceased at the time of her marriage. The only other family member known about is Michael SULLIVAN who was Nellie's brother - no other information is known about him. Nellie and Frederick had one child - a daughter Eileen born in 1932 ( my friends mum) who was born in Worthing, West Sussex. Can anyone help/advise me with any of this please - they have never known any of the SULLIVAN family! Many thanks. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 25/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 25/09/2006

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My search in Leitrim was done by Leitrim Genealogy Centre, Ballinamore, Co. Leitrim. I had the name of my ggrandfathers parents and knew that he was from Leitrim. It did cost me but it was well worth every penny. I also wrote to the Leitrim newspaper in Carrick-on-Shannon looking for info from anyone still alive who knew my family. I was really surprised when I received 3 letters from people who remembered my great uncle and his family. None of his family married and they all died in Ireland. Cathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: kaye vernon<mailto:kjvernon@bigpond.net.au> To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Irish Roots Vincent, Can I ask who actually did the search for you? Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm<http://www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm> ----- Original Message ----- From: "VINCENT IMBRIANI" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much Padraig - much appreciated! Linda >From: Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagain<padraigogealagain@rogers.com> >Reply-To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com >To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: Nellie SULLIVAN >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:26:23 -0400 > >Yes, go to the LDS Family History Centre nearest you, and check the records >of civil births - Ireland for the years concerned. First go to >www.seanruad.com and get a list of the "PLU's" for Co.Cork, take a copy of >those with you., then at the LDS check first the index of births for >1906-1907, the Film# is 0101071 - focus on the PLU's (Reg. Dists) of the >list you have with you. The entries are alphabetical by surname in a >quarterly reported manner. > >When you find him, note the Year, the Page and Volume number (it will be >either a 4 or a 5) and the Reg. Dist. , then get the LDS to bring in the >required full detail film, when they do go to the page number and they >will >copy it for you a nominal charge. > >***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** >***** Thanks for your consideration ***** > >Pádraig Mór, >An Sean Gabhar >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Linda Smith" <lindasfamily@hotmail.com> >To: <IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:04 AM >Subject: Nellie SULLIVAN > > > > Hello List, > > My name is Linda and I live in Hampshire, England. I have experience in > > genealogy but not Irish roots! > > I'm helping my friend and her mother (neither of whom have computers) to > > try > > and trace their Irish roots. > > All the information we have is as follows: > > > > Nellie SULLIVAN was born in County Cork about 1906/1907 > > She came to England at some point and married Frederick Walter BROWN on > > 4th > > June 1932 at St. Mary of the Angels, Crescent Road, Worthing, West >Sussex. > > Her father's name is given as John SULLIVAN, a farm labourer - he was > > deceased at the time of her marriage. > > > > The only other family member known about is Michael SULLIVAN who was > > Nellie's brother - no other information is known about him. > > > > Nellie and Frederick had one child - a daughter Eileen born in 1932 ( my > > friends mum) who was born in Worthing, West Sussex. > > > > Can anyone help/advise me with any of this please - they have never >known > > any of the SULLIVAN family! > > > > Many thanks. > > Linda >e quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I originally mailed this to CountyCork-D@rootsweb.com. Sorry for the repetition, but I intended it as a reply to the irl-cork@rootsweb.com discussion about the use of 'X' as a signature. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Irish literacy Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:11:58 -0400 From: David Collins <dfc.jr@earthlink.net> Reply-To: dfc.jr@earthlink.net Organization: self To: CountyCork-D@rootsweb.com When I first started my family history, I was surprised at the number of my Famine ancestors who were illiterate; virtually all of them were. The Irish Censuses from 1841 to, at least, 1901 provide some impressive statistics about the rates of Irish literacy. In 1841, 53% of all Irish people over the age of five could neither read nor write. The illiteracy rate for the Province of Connaught in 1841 was 72%. By 1901, the rate had dropped to 14% for all of Ireland and 21% for Connaught. After the introduction of Civil Registration in 1864, the Irish (English) began to keep track of those who signed marriage registers with an 'X'. The 1871 Census show that 37.5% of men and 45.2% of women used an 'X'. By 1901 those rates were down to 13.2% (men) and 10.7% (women). These numbers coincide fairly closely with the 1871 & 1901 Census figures for literacy. The Penal Laws, which were eventually abolished by the early part of the 19th century, were largely responsible for the illiteracy rates. The Hedge Schools were the Irish answer to the prohibition of 'popish education'. But the hunger for education among even the poorest Irish led to the establishment of the first system of national education in the English-speaking world in the early 1830s. David Collins Hudson, MA, USA

Hello List, My name is Linda and I live in Hampshire, England. I have experience in genealogy but not Irish roots! I'm helping my friend and her mother (neither of whom have computers) to try and trace their Irish roots. All the information we have is as follows: Nellie SULLIVAN was born in County Cork about 1906/1907 She came to England at some point and married Frederick Walter BROWN on 4th June 1932 at St. Mary of the Angels, Crescent Road, Worthing, West Sussex. Her father's name is given as John SULLIVAN, a farm labourer - he was deceased at the time of her marriage. The only other family member known about is Michael SULLIVAN who was Nellie's brother - no other information is known about him. Nellie and Frederick had one child - a daughter Eileen born in 1932 ( my friends mum) who was born in Worthing, West Sussex. Can anyone help/advise me with any of this please - they have never known any of the SULLIVAN family! Many thanks. Linda