Peggy, IF you have the Volume and the page number, plus the name, year and/or quarter, plus registration district, you can purchase the cheaper copy of registration, which is exactly what they use to write the cert, or often, they even place the copy of the registration right on the certificate and charge the higher fee. Search and photocopy of entry in the Register 6.00 4.00 This copy used to be 1 Euro 90 and is still the better bargain. Regards, Candi McCarthy

The idea is, Peggy, to provide them with the FULL reference - the page and volume number are most important, and I understand from other correspondence on the subject, one has to remind them that a photo-copy, and probably a certificate, are cheaper - although their webpage on fees doesn't indicate that point. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <pegleg2@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > Here in Australia we pay AU$5 for hire of a film for 4 weeks which I think > is very good value. However, one thing which has me guessing is whether > or not one should make use of the Volume/page numbers when applying to the > GRO for a copy of the required certificate? I usually only give the month > and year - would it make their job any easier [and a swifter reply] if I > also gave these nos? > > Peggy > Australia > > > "> You can save money, and time, by doing your index searches before you > > leave home using microfilm from the LDS>" > > > Only, Dennis, if one's local LDS centre has the index films as part of > their > stock in trade. If not, US$5.50 per film.

Dennis P.S. I forgot to mention that, luckily, mine is an uncommon name. There are lots of Bransfields in Ireland (mainly Cork and Dungarvan) and loads around the world but the one ancestor I am researching was the ONLY Bransfield in the British Navy! Celebrations for that! Sheila (still sunny Kent)

Thanks for that information, Dennis. As I said, I haven't been to Dublin for a while and since I spend a lot of time at archives in UK it's difficult to remember details! Sheila (sunny and WARM Kent, UK)

Candi In Australia our libraries have interlibrary loan systems. Do they have that at your local library? If so you may get the books from the most remote library on loan. Regards Margaret

" FEES PAYABLE BY THE PUBLIC TO OIFIG AN ARD - CHLARAITHEORA (GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE) (as per Statutory Instruments; S.I. No. 766/05, S.I. No. 767/05 and S.I. No. 769/05) NOTE: All Fees are in EURO (€), the legal currency of the Republic of Ireland. 1. Certificates: Including particular Search Fees Extra copies Birth Certificate €10.00 €8.00 Death Certificate €10.00 €8.00 Marriage Certificate €10.00 €8.00 Short birth Certificate €10.00 €8.00 Authentication of an Existing certificate €10.00 €10.00 Search and photocopy of entry in the Register €6.00 €4.00 Reference information consists of Year, Quarter, Volume and page No. 2. Search Fees: Particular Search: €2.00 A Search (in the public Research Room, Joyce House by the applicant) over a period not exceeding five years for any given entry. The Fee for each particular search is €2.00. General Search: €20.00 Search (in the Research Room Joyce House by the applicant) through the indexes to Births, Deaths or Marriages during any number of successive hours not exceeding seven. (Fee does not include the cost of certificates or photocopies). 3. Authentication of an existing certificate: €10.00 Search and Photocopy of entry in the Register: €6.00 Additional Photocopies: €4.00 " I find the above GRO's schedule of fees somewhat confusing in that, for example, it indicates that the fee for a certificate (Item#1) is 10 Euro including the cost of the search. But, if one pays 20Euro for a General Search of seven successive hours ( no mention above of a five day limit - and I find the word 'successive' a bit misleading ) and also provides the full reference detail, is the cost of a certificate less? The same question applies to the cost of a photocopy when one similarly provides the full reference details. I don't understand Item#3 either. As a certificate is exactly that, why would there be a need to have it authenticated ? Anyone know? ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > > Sheila Bransfield <Sheila.Bransfield@btinternet.com> said: > >>I don't remember a limit on the number of certs - but then I didn't find >>many I wanted to have copied, so maybe that is why. Of course, you can >>always identify the copies you need while you are there and order them by >>post. I can't remember the cost but no doubt that can be picked up from >>the web. You can always order a copy of the entry first, to identify the >>person, before you order the certificate. > > I don't know if there is any limit on certificates, but unless you have an > extremely uncommon name and location, you are potentially throwing a lot > of money away buying cert's on the strength of the printed index alone. > The five-a-day limit refers to the photocopies of handwritten register > entries that the staff will print out for you. Many times, you will find > that the details from the register show that the entry is not the one you > want. On my last trip to Dublin I went through about thirty requests for > photocopies, spaced over several days, before I identified the right one > to get the certificate. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I enjoy this list and in particular watching as the regular contributors move from subject to subject to share their experience and knowledge, especially with those who are obviously new to genealogy. We all had to learn the ropes once, and what a great job these people do! Now, while book searching is one of the current subjects, I have been trying to track down a rare book: "The Shooting Directory," written by Richard Badham Thornhill and published in 1804. All I want from this book is the frontisportrait of the author. Abebooks had the book for sale once but I couldn't afford 1,500 English pounds, especially as it would have cost more with Aussie exchange rates! I will happily pay a fee and costs if someone could get me just a photocopy of this portrait. I've written to the Mallow and Duhallow societies but they didn't reply to my e-mails so I assume they don't have a copy. If all else fails I'll ask a researcher to check out the National Library and other libraries and also try libraries in England, but in the meantime if someone can access a copy of this book I will be eternally grateful. Also, re Casey discussions: We have used these volumes extensively for our north east Cork research and we stick to the golden rule of always backing up all info with one or more other sources. We have used deeds, will extracts and will indices, certificates, Griffith's valuations, newspapers, graveyard records, parish registers, sharing info with other descendants etc etc., and we have found Casey to be reliable. I am aware that some our "other sources" are probably the same ones that Casey and his helpers accessed in the first place, but at least by finding them for ourselves we know that the information was copied correctly. Regards to all, Judie Morris, Victoria, Australia.

"> You can save money, and time, by doing your index searches before you > leave home using microfilm from the LDS>" Only, Dennis, if one's local LDS centre has the index films as part of their stock in trade. If not, US$5.50 per film. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > > CABOCEAN@aol.com said: > >>On Joyce Street , the records office, there is a limit of 5 look ups a >>day for certs and they are strict abouth that! There is a fee to look >>information up in in the indexes as well as a fee for photocopying a >>cert. (I don't know if they include the look up fee in with the >>photocopy). > > As has been pointed out, the General Register Office research room is at > Joyce House in Lombard Street. There are two different sorts of fees > charged related to serarching the index books to births, deaths and > marriages. You pay a fee to have a look at the index books, either pay by > the book or pay by the day. Once you find an entry in the index book, you > fill out a request and they will look up the entry in a register and make > a photocopy. There is a limit of five photocopies a day. > > You can save money, and time, by doing your index searches before you > leave home using microfilm from the LDS, or by going around the corner to > the Gilbert Library where they have the index books on microfilm and there > is no research fee, but you must get a Dublin City Archives Researchers > card. See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/march03.htm#add for some > details about the Gilbert Library. > > -dja > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can also write ahead of time to the Mallow Heritage Center. I wrote about a month before a trip to Ireland and enclosed a stamped (Irish), self-addressed envelope. (I suppose you could include an international reply coupon if you don't keep Irish stamps on hand, or perhaps you could ask them to fax a letter to the library). Permission came in the form of a letter, allowing me to use Cloyne records in the National Library for a month. I gave the letter to the folks at the desk who kept it on file. They must have checked it each time I asked for three more films, as I had no trouble getting Cloyne diocese films for the week that I was there. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <irl-cork-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 74 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Permission to view Cloyne Diocese Parish records at the > National Library of Ireland (Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)) > 2. Re: Research in Ireland (Patricia O'Shea) > 3. Research in Ireland (CABOCEAN@aol.com) > 4. Re: Books (P?draig M?r ? Gealagain) > 5. Re: Research in Ireland (Sheila Bransfield) > 6. Rare book (Judie) > 7. Re: finding books written in Ireland (margaret trewick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:51:18 -0800 > From: "Zizek, Candi \(DHS-DCDC-IDB\)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> > Subject: Permission to view Cloyne Diocese Parish records at the > National Library of Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <ACFC81511C888F42BD473431D3CF1FBFE6792E@dhsexcmsg03.intra.dhs.ca.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Kay & all, > > Last week I needed to research the Garrycloyne Parish records for a > CALLAGHAN client near Blarney, and this is what I did: > > I called the Mallow Heritage Center (within Ireland) 022-50302 to ask > permission to review the Cloyne Diocese records for this > CALLAHAN/CALLAGHAN family. > > They asked if I was looking for my family, which I was. Within 24 hours, > they faxed their permission to the National Library of Ireland at > 01-661-2523. > > I think you could specify your needs--for various Cloyne Parish > research, for length of time of access, but it is doable. I hope this is > helpful. > > Regards, > > Candi in California > http://www.corbinconnections.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:30:09 +1300 > From: "Patricia O'Shea" <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00a201c6feb5$4f8c0570$0301010a@pata1142ce242e> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > As far as I am aware (as of October this year) I think you can do as many > searches of the indexes as you like in any one day. You can only request > volumes covering 5 years at a time though. But you can do this any number > of > times per day. There may be a limit on how many certs you can request > copies > of in a day? Not sure of this as I didn't order any this time. > > The rules/conditions are clearly set out in the research room. You can > also > check their website at http://www.groireland.ie/ - look at Research to see > the details. > > The staff are very helpful and obliging although also extremely busy (and > have to deal with some quite demanding customers!). > > Hope this is useful. > Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > > > >>I am puzzled by the message from Claire in MA. >> I am researching my Irish Bransfield family and have visited Dublin so >> many >> times that I cannot recall how many. >> You refer to the Record Office in "Joyce Street" - do you mean "Joyce >> House >> in Lombard Street East"? >> If you do, I am also puzzled about being restricted to five look-ups a >> day. >> Please forgive me if they have changed since my last visit (2004) but I >> paid >> a fee of 12 euros (I think, or maybe 15) to search all day. You were >> given >> three or four volumes (2004 was a long time ago and my memory is >> fading!), >> at a time, for the dates you select and I usually manage to cover births, >> deaths and marriages for about 50 years! >> Maybe I'm up the wrong street! >> Best wishes >> Sheila >> sunny but cold Kent, UK >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:24:58 EST > From: CABOCEAN@aol.com > Subject: Research in Ireland > To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d05.cd9bf9.327bbc2a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Oops Sheila, > > You are correct on both counts. Joyce House on Lombard Street. However, > my > time in Dublin was so limited, I tried to do all my index look ups before > I > went. I wanted to spend as much time in the Library as possible. > > I would have loved to have paid a set rate for photocopies of the certs, > but > they told me no..... 5 was the limit > > I'm terribly sorry if I confused anyone! > > Claire in MA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:20:33 -0500 > From: P?draig M?r ? Gealagain <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: Books > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00dd01c6fecd$1ce924f0$6501a8c0@PADDY> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You over looked Canadians! ;-) > > ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** > ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** > > P?draig M?r, > An Sean Gabhar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:19 PM > Subject: Books > > >>I have just received a note from Waterford Museum curator Willie Whelan, >> who is computer brilliant and so aware of the gap between Irish >> information and the Irish Americans/Australians/New Zealanders in need >> of economical Irish resources. I met with Willie in Dungarvan last week >> and I hope to conspire with him to increase Irish knowledge and >> resources for us all, via the internet or any way possible. >> >> Here is what Willie told me: >> >> You have just stumbled across a common problem. A lot of these books are >> very short run publications produced by a lone individual or small group >> of enthusiasts. They normally lose money for the person that publishes >> them. Bookstores outside of the author's locality won't stock them and >> when they are sold out that is it. They often do not even have ISBN >> numbers. >> >> The best chance you have of sourcing them is to visit abebooks.com . >> It searches most of the second hand bookshops in the world. We often buy >> in rare Waterford history books from New Zealand or America using this >> site. >> >> The address is www.abebooks.com >> >> I did a quick search and they have many copies of Beara Women talking. >> They don't appear to have Riobard O'Dwyers book. >> They don't have the Driscolls book but they have other books by Eamon >> Lankford They do have a History Of Bandon by Paddy Connolly They have a >> Bay Of Destiny by Michael J Carroll >> >> Hope this is helpful... >> >> Regards, >> >> Candi in California >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:08:38 -0000 > From: "Sheila Bransfield" <Sheila.Bransfield@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > To: <IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601c6fedc$368e8d50$5f9bfea9@office> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > To Claire > I don't remember a limit on the number of certs - but then I didn't find > many I wanted to have copied, so maybe that is why. Of course, you can > always identify the copies you need while you are there and order them by > post. I can't remember the cost but no doubt that can be picked up from > the > web. You can always order a copy of the entry first, to identify the > person, before you order the certificate. Obviously you still have to pay > (always in Euros - which even we find difficult from the UK). If it is > not > an appropriate entry, you save on the cost of a certificate. > As I have already explained, it is some time since I was there and ordered > certificates but, in 2000, I ordered 3 certificates by post and they cost > ?16.50. (There is always the money converter at http://www.xe.com/ucc/) > Best wishes > Sheila > (dark and colder Kent, UK) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:45:23 +1100 > From: "Judie" <jmorrish@iprimus.com.au> > Subject: Rare book > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003f01c6fee1$58f7cf50$0201010a@Judie> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I enjoy this list and in particular watching as the regular contributors > move from subject to subject to share their experience and knowledge, > especially with those who are obviously new to genealogy. We all had to > learn the ropes once, and what a great job these people do! > > Now, while book searching is one of the current subjects, I have been > trying to track down a rare book: "The Shooting Directory," written by > Richard Badham Thornhill and published in 1804. All I want from this book > is the frontisportrait of the author. Abebooks had the book for sale once > but I couldn't afford 1,500 English pounds, especially as it would have > cost more with Aussie exchange rates! I will happily pay a fee and costs > if someone could get me just a photocopy of this portrait. I've written > to the Mallow and Duhallow societies but they didn't reply to my e-mails > so I assume they don't have a copy. If all else fails I'll ask a > researcher to check out the National Library and other libraries and also > try libraries in England, but in the meantime if someone can access a copy > of this book I will be eternally grateful. > > Also, re Casey discussions: We have used these volumes extensively for > our north east Cork research and we stick to the golden rule of always > backing up all info with one or more other sources. We have used deeds, > will extracts and will indices, certificates, Griffith's valuations, > newspapers, graveyard records, parish registers, sharing info with other > descendants etc etc., and we have found Casey to be reliable. I am aware > that some our "other sources" are probably the same ones that Casey and > his helpers accessed in the first place, but at least by finding them for > ourselves we know that the information was copied correctly. > > Regards to all, > Judie Morris, > Victoria, Australia. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:43:24 +1100 > From: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> > Subject: Re: finding books written in Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007601c6fee9$73faa900$16b30ad2@margaret5254ef> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Candi > In Australia our libraries have interlibrary loan systems. Do they have > that > at your local library? If so you may get the books from the most remote > library on loan. > Regards > Margaret > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CORK list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CORK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CORK mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 74 > ***************************************

As far as I am aware (as of October this year) I think you can do as many searches of the indexes as you like in any one day. You can only request volumes covering 5 years at a time though. But you can do this any number of times per day. There may be a limit on how many certs you can request copies of in a day? Not sure of this as I didn't order any this time. The rules/conditions are clearly set out in the research room. You can also check their website at http://www.groireland.ie/ - look at Research to see the details. The staff are very helpful and obliging although also extremely busy (and have to deal with some quite demanding customers!). Hope this is useful. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. >I am puzzled by the message from Claire in MA. > I am researching my Irish Bransfield family and have visited Dublin so > many > times that I cannot recall how many. > You refer to the Record Office in "Joyce Street" - do you mean "Joyce > House > in Lombard Street East"? > If you do, I am also puzzled about being restricted to five look-ups a > day. > Please forgive me if they have changed since my last visit (2004) but I > paid > a fee of 12 euros (I think, or maybe 15) to search all day. You were > given > three or four volumes (2004 was a long time ago and my memory is fading!), > at a time, for the dates you select and I usually manage to cover births, > deaths and marriages for about 50 years! > Maybe I'm up the wrong street! > Best wishes > Sheila > sunny but cold Kent, UK > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are right Padraig--sorry to be missing those Canadians who would want some resources--and it seems the Canadians left even sooner, and I have some of my own. I wil try interlibrary loan. It used to work, and it couldn't hurt as I only wish to review the books for pertinent info. Of course, books are my downfall.... Candi

Does anyone on this list have any connection , or is the name familiar to anyone? I am getting "nowhere" on determining where my McCoy family came from. Family history states that gg grandfather Dennis came from Co Cork, but that his wife, Hannah Gallagher, came from Co Donegal. He was a sailor (don't know what kind) and I suppose he could have just worked out of Cork. He would have been born abt 1806 or so and would have been married abt 1846, a couple of years before he came to the US. I hesitate to spend $$ looking until I at least know the county he came from. Any help would be very much appreciated. Dorothy McCoy MN -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.23/513 - Release Date: 11/2/2006

Sheila Bransfield <Sheila.Bransfield@btinternet.com> said: >I don't remember a limit on the number of certs - but then I didn't find >many I wanted to have copied, so maybe that is why. Of course, you can >always identify the copies you need while you are there and order them by >post. I can't remember the cost but no doubt that can be picked up from >the web. You can always order a copy of the entry first, to identify the >person, before you order the certificate. I don't know if there is any limit on certificates, but unless you have an extremely uncommon name and location, you are potentially throwing a lot of money away buying cert's on the strength of the printed index alone. The five-a-day limit refers to the photocopies of handwritten register entries that the staff will print out for you. Many times, you will find that the details from the register show that the entry is not the one you want. On my last trip to Dublin I went through about thirty requests for photocopies, spaced over several days, before I identified the right one to get the certificate.

CABOCEAN@aol.com said: >On Joyce Street , the records office, there is a limit of 5 look ups a >day for certs and they are strict abouth that! There is a fee to look >information up in in the indexes as well as a fee for photocopying a >cert. (I don't know if they include the look up fee in with the photocopy). As has been pointed out, the General Register Office research room is at Joyce House in Lombard Street. There are two different sorts of fees charged related to serarching the index books to births, deaths and marriages. You pay a fee to have a look at the index books, either pay by the book or pay by the day. Once you find an entry in the index book, you fill out a request and they will look up the entry in a register and make a photocopy. There is a limit of five photocopies a day. You can save money, and time, by doing your index searches before you leave home using microfilm from the LDS, or by going around the corner to the Gilbert Library where they have the index books on microfilm and there is no research fee, but you must get a Dublin City Archives Researchers card. See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/march03.htm#add for some details about the Gilbert Library. -dja

To Claire I don't remember a limit on the number of certs - but then I didn't find many I wanted to have copied, so maybe that is why. Of course, you can always identify the copies you need while you are there and order them by post. I can't remember the cost but no doubt that can be picked up from the web. You can always order a copy of the entry first, to identify the person, before you order the certificate. Obviously you still have to pay (always in Euros - which even we find difficult from the UK). If it is not an appropriate entry, you save on the cost of a certificate. As I have already explained, it is some time since I was there and ordered certificates but, in 2000, I ordered 3 certificates by post and they cost £16.50. (There is always the money converter at http://www.xe.com/ucc/) Best wishes Sheila (dark and colder Kent, UK)

You over looked Canadians! ;-) ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Books >I have just received a note from Waterford Museum curator Willie Whelan, > who is computer brilliant and so aware of the gap between Irish > information and the Irish Americans/Australians/New Zealanders in need > of economical Irish resources. I met with Willie in Dungarvan last week > and I hope to conspire with him to increase Irish knowledge and > resources for us all, via the internet or any way possible. > > Here is what Willie told me: > > You have just stumbled across a common problem. A lot of these books are > very short run publications produced by a lone individual or small group > of enthusiasts. They normally lose money for the person that publishes > them. Bookstores outside of the author's locality won't stock them and > when they are sold out that is it. They often do not even have ISBN > numbers. > > The best chance you have of sourcing them is to visit abebooks.com . > It searches most of the second hand bookshops in the world. We often buy > in rare Waterford history books from New Zealand or America using this > site. > > The address is www.abebooks.com > > I did a quick search and they have many copies of Beara Women talking. > They don't appear to have Riobard O'Dwyers book. > They don't have the Driscolls book but they have other books by Eamon > Lankford They do have a History Of Bandon by Paddy Connolly They have a > Bay Of Destiny by Michael J Carroll > > Hope this is helpful... > > Regards, > > Candi in California >

Oops Sheila, You are correct on both counts. Joyce House on Lombard Street. However, my time in Dublin was so limited, I tried to do all my index look ups before I went. I wanted to spend as much time in the Library as possible. I would have loved to have paid a set rate for photocopies of the certs, but they told me no..... 5 was the limit I'm terribly sorry if I confused anyone! Claire in MA

Sorry to butt in. I ran into our local Family History Center person this morning and during our conversation he said that all of the records would be available on the internet in the near future. Records are being transcribed now. I didn't think to ask which records and/or if it would be all records. Maybe someone knows what and when. Thanks Bruce Heath, Ohio No, there are no films 'on-line' . The restricted films which are not circulated to Family Centres are vaulted at Lake City, Utah.

I'm not exactly sure how that works either although I have been contemplating trying it out as I have been searching for a family vault and graveyard that was abandoned centuries ago and doesn't seem to be off any road and probably in the middle of a field with of a herd of cows. This vault is noted on a Discovery Ordnance Survey Map which include the bearings (longitude & Latitude) that you would need. Of course a private home is not likely to be on these maps but if it was near a church of graveyard or any other building of importance they could be on the map. Sorry I can't be of more help, Karen "Dennis Ahern" <mailto:ahern@world.std.com> schrieb: > > It was suggested that a GPS would come in handy finding places in Ireland. > How would that work? What sources are there that would give you the GPS > coordinates of an individual house on a townland for example? One source > I'm aware of is http://www.fallingrain.com/world/EI/ but does that really > get down to the level of detail that is needed? > > -dja

No, there are no films 'on-line' . The restricted films which are not circulated to Family Centres are vaulted at Lake City, Utah. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaye vernon" <kjvernon@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: Re: researching in Ireland/ LDS REcords Does that mean that the records are at the LDS libraries and not on line. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: Re: researching in Ireland/ LDS REcords > 1. A licensed genealogist at the NLI assured me that ALL the Irish > parish films have been ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3426 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message