Hi again Helen - I see that Mallow has the records of one of the parishes mentioned in the Griffiths (Castletownroache from 1811) but does not seem to mention Ballyhooley, although this might come under Fermoy. Ballyhooley is not mentioned in Grenham's list of available Cork East RC records and Fermoy begins around 1827, which is rather unhelpful for you. It just might be worth the cost of getting Mallow HC to check for the births given that you know the parents? Sorry this is not more helpful - another clue would certainly be useful for you. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Re: Mallow records >I think I need to do more research. I wanted a Baptism on one of the girls > or a marriage record. I have no idea where they were from in Cork. I was > hoping since only 2 David Smith's showed up on Griffiths I might get > lucky. > This is my biggest brick wall. I so wish all of Cork had a heritage centre > like Mallow. Thanks for the help. > Jan loved the TIARA piece! > Helen

On the subject of naturalizations - children under 18 years naturalized automatically when their father naturalized. Men who stated that they came here prior to age 18 did not have file "first papers". Woman born in the US would lose their citizenship if they married an immigrant and regain it when he naturalized! Cheryl ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:35:50 -0600 >From: [email protected] >Subject: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 76 >To: [email protected] > >Today's Topics: >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM >> > > Subject: Reading the US census >> > > >Kathleen Bowen Simons >Falls Church, Virginia > > >________________ >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:57:56 -0400 >From: "Helen" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Reading the US census >To: <[email protected]> > >Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre 1922 if >her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she said >she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do their own >naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in 1920. >Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to >believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. >Helen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM >Subject: Re: Reading the US census > > >> Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is great >> if >> it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! >>> >>> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a >>> female over 21 >>> >>> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to >>> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to >>> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or >>> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign >>> parentage. >>> >>> >>> Brendan >>> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: >>> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) >>> > >>> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) >>> > >>> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all >>> > the >>> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as >>> > we all >>> > know, sometimes not followed!)l >>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No >>> > records >>> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which >>> > included non >>> > > citizens. >>> > > Helen

Hi Helen, She never married, she did not naturalise until 1947, maybe there were different rules then. Brendan ----- "Helen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre > 1922 if > her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she > said > she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do > their own > naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in > 1920. > Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to > > believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > > > > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is > great > > if > > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > >> > >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she > was a > >> female over 21 > >> > >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, > male or > >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or > foreign > >> parentage. > >> > >> > >> Brendan > >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > >> > > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > >> > > >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for > all > >> > the > >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, > as > >> > we all > >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. > No > >> > records > >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > >> > included non > >> > > citizens. > >> > > Helen > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > >> > > Subject: Reading the US census > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > >> > naturalisation you > >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised > and in > >> > the > >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for > alien > >> > > > citizenship. > >> > > > > >> > > > Brendan > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ > Mother- > >> > Irish > >> > > >> Free > >> > > >> > State- > >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without > >> > > >> the > >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > <snipped> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons > >> > Falls Church, Virginia > >> > > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > Worship. > >> > Community. Service. > >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor > Chris' > >> > messages!) > >> > > >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick > C. > >> > Simons: > >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > Falls Church, Virginia > > > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > Worship. > > Community. Service. > > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > > messages!) > > > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > > > Simons: > > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Didn't someone just request that we not hit reply in digest mode without deleting all the old messages below? This is worse than usual with all the blank lines. What's up? Elizabeth W. Knowlton > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/18/2009 6:35:51 PM > Subject: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 76 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Reading the US census (daithi) > 2. Re: Reading the US census (Kathleen B. Simons) > 3. Re: Reading the US census (Helen) > 4. Re: Mallow records (Patricia O'Shea) > 5. Re: Reading the US census ([email protected]) > 6. Re: Reading the US census (Helen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:27:25 -0400 > From: "daithi" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Alien is just that..... NOT naturalized..... at that point at least. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > Subject: Reading the US census > > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under naturalisation you > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in the > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > > citizenship. > > > > Brendan > > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > >> > >> > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish > >> Free > >> > State- > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > >> > > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:23:59 -0400 > From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is great if > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > > > > I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a > > female over 21 > > > > 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > > foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > > foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or > > female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign > > parentage. > > > > > > Brendan > > ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > > > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > > > > > > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > > > > > > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all > > > the > > > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as > > > we all > > > know, sometimes not followed!)l > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No > > > records > > > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > > > included non > > > > citizens. > > > > Helen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > > > > Subject: Reading the US census > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > > > naturalisation you > > > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in > > > the > > > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > > > > > citizenship. > > > > > > > > > > Brendan > > > > > > > > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > > > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- > > > Irish > > > > >> Free > > > > >> > State- > > > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chris > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > > > >> the > > > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > <snipped> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > > Falls Church, Virginia > > > > > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > > > Community. Service. > > > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > > > messages!) > > > > > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > > > Simons: > > > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Falls Church, Virginia > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > Community. Service. > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > messages!) > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:57:56 -0400 > From: "Helen" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre 1922 if > her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she said > she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do their own > naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in 1920. > Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to > believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > > > > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is great > > if > > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > >> > >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a > >> female over 21 > >> > >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or > >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign > >> parentage. > >> > >> > >> Brendan > >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > >> > > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > >> > > >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all > >> > the > >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as > >> > we all > >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No > >> > records > >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > >> > included non > >> > > citizens. > >> > > Helen > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > >> > > Subject: Reading the US census > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > >> > naturalisation you > >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in > >> > the > >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > >> > > > citizenship. > >> > > > > >> > > > Brendan > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- > >> > Irish > >> > > >> Free > >> > > >> > State- > >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without > >> > > >> the > >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > <snipped> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons > >> > Falls Church, Virginia > >> > > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > >> > Community. Service. > >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > >> > messages!) > >> > > >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > >> > Simons: > >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > Falls Church, Virginia > > > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > > Community. Service. > > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > > messages!) > > > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > > Simons: > > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:44:55 +1300 > From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Mallow records > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi again Helen - I see that Mallow has the records of one of the parishes > mentioned in the Griffiths (Castletownroache from 1811) but does not seem to > mention Ballyhooley, although this might come under Fermoy. > > Ballyhooley is not mentioned in Grenham's list of available Cork East RC > records and Fermoy begins around 1827, which is rather unhelpful for you. > > It just might be worth the cost of getting Mallow HC to check for the > births given that you know the parents? > > Sorry this is not more helpful - another clue would certainly be useful for > you. > Best wishes, > Patsy - New Zealand > > Subject: Re: Mallow records > > > >I think I need to do more research. I wanted a Baptism on one of the girls > > or a marriage record. I have no idea where they were from in Cork. I was > > hoping since only 2 David Smith's showed up on Griffiths I might get > > lucky. > > This is my biggest brick wall. I so wish all of Cork had a heritage centre > > like Mallow. Thanks for the help. > > Jan loved the TIARA piece! > > Helen > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:18:19 +0000 (GMT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Helen, > > She never married, she did not naturalise until 1947, maybe there were different rules then. > > Brendan > ----- "Helen" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre > > 1922 if > > her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she > > said > > she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do > > their own > > naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in > > 1920. > > Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to > > > > believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM > > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > > > > > > > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is > > great > > > if > > > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > > >> > > >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she > > was a > > >> female over 21 > > >> > > >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > > >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > > >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, > > male or > > >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or > > foreign > > >> parentage. > > >> > > >> > > >> Brendan > > >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > > >> > > > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > > >> > > > >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for > > all > > >> > the > > >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, > > as > > >> > we all > > >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l > > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. > > No > > >> > records > > >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > > >> > included non > > >> > > citizens. > > >> > > Helen > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: <[email protected]> > > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > > >> > > Subject: Reading the US census > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > > >> > naturalisation you > > >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised > > and in > > >> > the > > >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for > > alien > > >> > > > citizenship. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Brendan > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > > >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > > >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ > > Mother- > > >> > Irish > > >> > > >> Free > > >> > > >> > State- > > >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > Chris > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > >> > without > > >> > > >> the > > >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > <snipped> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > >> > Falls Church, Virginia > > >> > > > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > > Worship. > > >> > Community. Service. > > >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor > > Chris' > > >> > messages!) > > >> > > > >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick > > C. > > >> > Simons: > > >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > > Falls Church, Virginia > > > > > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > > Worship. > > > Community. Service. > > > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > > > messages!) > > > > > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > > > > > Simons: > > > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:35:05 -0400 > From: "Helen" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Brendan, > > After 1922 woman could be naturalized on their own. You can get a copy from > NARA -- although all mine were pre-1930 not sure what the privacy laws are > ,1947 wasn't that long ago. > this is the link > > http://www.archives.gov/ > > Helen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: Reading the US census > > > > Hi Helen, > > > > She never married, she did not naturalise until 1947, maybe there were > > different rules then. > > > > Brendan > > ----- "Helen" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre > >> 1922 if > >> her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she > >> said > >> she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do > >> their own > >> naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in > >> 1920. > >> Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to > >> > >> believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. > >> Helen > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: Reading the US census > >> > >> > >> > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is > >> great > >> > if > >> > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > >> >> > >> >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she > >> was a > >> >> female over 21 > >> >> > >> >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > >> >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > >> >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, > >> male or > >> >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or > >> foreign > >> >> parentage. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Brendan > >> >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > >> >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > >> >> > > >> >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for > >> all > >> >> > the > >> >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, > >> as > >> >> > we all > >> >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. > >> No > >> >> > records > >> >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > >> >> > included non > >> >> > > citizens. > >> >> > > Helen > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > > From: <[email protected]> > >> >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > >> >> > > Subject: Reading the US census > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > >> >> > naturalisation you > >> >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised > >> and in > >> >> > the > >> >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for > >> alien > >> >> > > > citizenship. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Brendan > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > >> >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > >> >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ > >> Mother- > >> >> > Irish > >> >> > > >> Free > >> >> > > >> > State- > >> >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Chris > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> >> > without > >> >> > > >> the > >> >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > <snipped> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons > >> >> > Falls Church, Virginia > >> >> > > >> >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > >> Worship. > >> >> > Community. Service. > >> >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor > >> Chris' > >> >> > messages!) > >> >> > > >> >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick > >> C. > >> >> > Simons: > >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons > >> > Falls Church, Virginia > >> > > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: > >> Worship. > >> > Community. 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I believe Ballyhooly records are in the RC parish of Castletownroche (home of my grandparents John Mehigan and Elizabeth Bushe) so Mallow HC should have those records. Bob Meehan

Thanks Patsy and John, The areas you both mentioned were my target areas because of Griffiths. I've been afraid to have the research done because I didn't find 2 corresponding years when I did a marriage search on David and Johanna. I guess the only way I'll know for sure is to have the research done. I also have a shot with the births of the 2 daughters if the marriage isn't found. Thanks for the help and data. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN MYERS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Mallow records > This might not help but my great great grandfather, William Myers, married > Catherine Dempsey in Castletownroche Parish, County Cork 31 January 1818. > The witnesses were Cornelius Dempsey and Patrick Dempsey. This marriage > is listed on page 169 of the Castletownroche and Ballyhooly Marriage > Records, also available from Mallow. > > Their first child was Jeremiah (Darby) Myers, baptized 16 October 1818 in > Castletownroche Parish. The sponsors were Jn. Keeffe and Nel Lynes. > They had three other Children born in Kildorrery Parish, William's home > Parish. Their Townland is listed as 'Crofana' which I can't identify. > > Jeremiah/Darby fathered an illegitimate son with Mary Sullivan in > Kildorrery Parish in 1845. > > John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Helen<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:52 AM > Subject: Mallow records > > > Dear list, > > Does anybody know if the pay per view records on the IFHF site are the > same records that the Mallow Centre keeps? I am looking for a marriage in > Cork -- David Smith, Johanna Dempsey circa 1825. I did not see any years > that were the same when I searched for a marriage on the 2 names. > I hate to have Mallow do a full blown search if it is the same data. I > have very little information on them and did not want to use Eneclann > until I can dig up a little more data. > Thanks for any help. > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1930 census does have errors regarding Irish ancestry. It says my great-grandfather's parents came from Northern Ireland, but one was from County Cork, the other from County Clare. Robin in Maryland **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002)

Brendan, After 1922 woman could be naturalized on their own. You can get a copy from NARA -- although all mine were pre-1930 not sure what the privacy laws are ,1947 wasn't that long ago. this is the link http://www.archives.gov/ Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Reading the US census > Hi Helen, > > She never married, she did not naturalise until 1947, maybe there were > different rules then. > > Brendan > ----- "Helen" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre >> 1922 if >> her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she >> said >> she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do >> their own >> naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in >> 1920. >> Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to >> >> believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. >> Helen >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Reading the US census >> >> >> > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is >> great >> > if >> > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! >> >> >> >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she >> was a >> >> female over 21 >> >> >> >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to >> >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to >> >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, >> male or >> >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or >> foreign >> >> parentage. >> >> >> >> >> >> Brendan >> >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: >> >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) >> >> > >> >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) >> >> > >> >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for >> all >> >> > the >> >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, >> as >> >> > we all >> >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l >> >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. >> No >> >> > records >> >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which >> >> > included non >> >> > > citizens. >> >> > > Helen >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM >> >> > > Subject: Reading the US census >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under >> >> > naturalisation you >> >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised >> and in >> >> > the >> >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for >> alien >> >> > > > citizenship. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Brendan >> >> > > > >> >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM >> >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ >> Mother- >> >> > Irish >> >> > > >> Free >> >> > > >> > State- >> >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > Chris >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> > > >> the >> >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > <snipped> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons >> >> > Falls Church, Virginia >> >> > >> >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: >> Worship. >> >> > Community. Service. >> >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor >> Chris' >> >> > messages!) >> >> > >> >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick >> C. >> >> > Simons: >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons >> > Falls Church, Virginia >> > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: >> Worship. >> > Community. Service. >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' >> > messages!) >> > >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. >> >> > Simons: >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a female over 21 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign parentage. Brendan ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all > the > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as > we all > know, sometimes not followed!)l > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No > records > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > included non > > citizens. > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > > Subject: Reading the US census > > > > > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > naturalisation you > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in > the > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > > > citizenship. > > > > > > Brendan > > > > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > > >> > > >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > >> > > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- > Irish > > >> Free > > >> > State- > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Chris > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > >> the > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > >> > > > <snipped> > > > > > > -- > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Falls Church, Virginia > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > Community. Service. > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > messages!) > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > Simons: > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris - as far as I understand this was the name for what is now the Republic of Ireland (Southern Ireland.) Does not narrow things all that much I'm afraid!! Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish Free > State- > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > > Chris > > > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL

I've also seen these errors. In the cases I've seen it was people who I know were British sympathizers, and I suspected they refused to consider themselves natives of the republic? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: RE: Irish Free State > The 1930 census does have errors regarding Irish ancestry. It says my > great-grandfather's parents came from Northern Ireland, but one was from > County > Cork, the other from County Clare. > Robin in Maryland > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for > Under > $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Talking about census records, on the US census under naturalisation you sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in the second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien citizenship. Brendan ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > > > > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > > > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish > Free > > State- > > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > > > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This might not help but my great great grandfather, William Myers, married Catherine Dempsey in Castletownroche Parish, County Cork 31 January 1818. The witnesses were Cornelius Dempsey and Patrick Dempsey. This marriage is listed on page 169 of the Castletownroche and Ballyhooly Marriage Records, also available from Mallow. Their first child was Jeremiah (Darby) Myers, baptized 16 October 1818 in Castletownroche Parish. The sponsors were Jn. Keeffe and Nel Lynes. They had three other Children born in Kildorrery Parish, William's home Parish. Their Townland is listed as 'Crofana' which I can't identify. Jeremiah/Darby fathered an illegitimate son with Mary Sullivan in Kildorrery Parish in 1845. John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona. ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Mallow records Dear list, Does anybody know if the pay per view records on the IFHF site are the same records that the Mallow Centre keeps? I am looking for a marriage in Cork -- David Smith, Johanna Dempsey circa 1825. I did not see any years that were the same when I searched for a marriage on the 2 names. I hate to have Mallow do a full blown search if it is the same data. I have very little information on them and did not want to use Eneclann until I can dig up a little more data. Thanks for any help. Helen

Is your Aunt married? If she was she would have been naturalized pre 1922 if her husband was naturalized. That event happened on one of mine -- she said she was naturalized by way of her husband. Women did not get to do their own naturalizations until after 1922 -- the right to vote occurred in 1920. Calls to mind the expression -- you've come a long way baby!! Hard to believe less than 100 years ago women in the US couldn't vote. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Reading the US census > Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is great > if > it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! >> >> I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a >> female over 21 >> >> 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to >> foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to >> foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or >> female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign >> parentage. >> >> >> Brendan >> ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) >> > >> > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) >> > >> > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all >> > the >> > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as >> > we all >> > know, sometimes not followed!)l >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No >> > records >> > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which >> > included non >> > > citizens. >> > > Helen >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM >> > > Subject: Reading the US census >> > > >> > > >> > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under >> > naturalisation you >> > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in >> > the >> > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien >> > > > citizenship. >> > > > >> > > > Brendan >> > > > >> > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM >> > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? >> > > >> > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- >> > Irish >> > > >> Free >> > > >> > State- >> > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Chris >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL >> > > >> > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > > >> the >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > <snipped> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kathleen Bowen Simons >> > Falls Church, Virginia >> > >> > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. >> > Community. Service. >> > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' >> > messages!) >> > >> > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. >> > Simons: >> > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Falls Church, Virginia > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > Community. Service. > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > messages!) > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > Simons: > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, well, the enumerators sometimes did their own thing (which is great if it ADDS genealogy knowledge!) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you all, you learn something new everyday !! > > I think this is interesting, one of my grandaunts naturalised, she was a > female over 21 > > 152. The question of naturalization (column 18) applies only to > foreign-born males 21 years of age and over. It does not apply to > foreign-born minors, to foreign-born females, or to any person, male or > female, who was born in the United States, either of native or foreign > parentage. > > > Brendan > ----- "Kathleen B. Simons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: > > http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) > > > > http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) > > > > if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all > > the > > fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as > > we all > > know, sometimes not followed!)l > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No > > records > > > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which > > included non > > > citizens. > > > Helen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > > > Subject: Reading the US census > > > > > > > > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under > > naturalisation you > > > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in > > the > > > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > > > > citizenship. > > > > > > > > Brendan > > > > > > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > > > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > > >> > > > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- > > Irish > > > >> Free > > > >> > State- > > > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Chris > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > > >> > > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > >> the > > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > <snipped> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kathleen Bowen Simons > > Falls Church, Virginia > > > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > > Community. Service. > > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > > messages!) > > > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > > Simons: > > http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Simons Falls Church, Virginia IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. Community. Service. www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' messages!) Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

Please go to the U.S. Census section of Cyndi's List: http://www.cyndislist.com/ (main contents page) http://www.cyndislist.com/census.htm (U.S. Census pages) if you click on the year of interest, they have explanations for all the fields (the 'rules' for the enumerators are very interested, and, as we all know, sometimes not followed!)l On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helen <[email protected]> wrote: > NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No records > exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which included non > citizens. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM > Subject: Reading the US census > > > > Talking about census records, on the US census under naturalisation you > > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in the > > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > > citizenship. > > > > Brendan > > > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM > >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > >> > >> > >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > >> > > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish > >> Free > >> > State- > >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > >> > > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > >> > > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > <snipped> > -- Kathleen Bowen Simons Falls Church, Virginia IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. Community. Service. www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' messages!) Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

NA is naturalized PA is the process has begun and AL is alien. No records exist that I know other than draft cards for WW1 and WW2 which included non citizens. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Reading the US census > Talking about census records, on the US census under naturalisation you > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in the > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > citizenship. > > Brendan > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning >> >> >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? >> > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish >> Free >> > State- >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. >> > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. >> > >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I take it for being naturalized and the al for basically being alien. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alien is just that..... NOT naturalized..... at that point at least. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Reading the US census > Talking about census records, on the US census under naturalisation you > sometimes see NA, sometimes AL, does this mean naturalised and in the > second case alien citizenship. Are there any records for alien > citizenship. > > Brendan > > ----- "daithi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Let me know if you haven't found it yet. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM >> Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning >> >> >> > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? >> > >> > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish >> Free >> > State- >> > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. >> > >> > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. >> > >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Let me know if you haven't found it yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: " Irish Free State" Meaning > Would some kind soul let me know what this means? > > In the 1930 census my great uncle states " Father/ Mother- Irish Free > State- > Not sure if that would help to pin down area or not. > > Thank you all for your past help with my Fitzgerald's. > > > Chris > > > HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY ALL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >