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    1. RE: Subject: Re: Cork emigrant to Australia
    2. Jack Crowley
    3. Knockskagh is near Mountain Common, Ardfield. This is a few miles south of Clonakilty, County Cork. My mother's father was from Mountain Common . As far as I know Connolly's still live around there. Google turned up the following CONNOLLY From: Knockskagh, near Leap, Co. Cork Date: 27 Mar 1999 Time: 09:19:42 Comments I'm trying to sort out what happened to all the siblings of my grandfather John Connolly, who emigrated to New York in 1907. Sibs were Michael, Catherine, Mary, Jeremiah, Ellen, Thomas, Patrick, Julia and Denis. Ellen and Julia also emigrated. Some were said to have gone to Australia. I think Patrick took over the family farm. Any info? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 02 March 2009 13:11 To: [email protected] Subject: Subject: Re: Cork emigrant to Australia I too have some Cork relatives who are said to have gone to Australia, all early in the 20th century. The family stories were a bit vague, but one great-aunt went to visit them in the 1930s, I believe (she told my mother about it). The names are Michael, Jeremiah, Thomas and Denis Connolly, brothers from Knockskagh. Thomas seems the most likely, but the others are unaccounted for as well. Their youngest brother John was my grandfather, but I never knew him. Sheila Connolly Middleboro, MA **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusye lp00000005) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2009 10:01:16
    1. Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley
    2. Hi John found your reply interesting. What is NLI pos? Any of these records on line? I have found memories of Sydney. Been there three times. In 1980 I found that my husband had about 30 relatives in Australia. In 1983 even got to Mt. Isa and the Gregory Downs, Townsville, Cairns. Melbourne, and many others towns where family lived. Three reunions in Ireland. Fond memories. Jackie Sullivan **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219619459x1201345309/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62)

    03/20/2009 09:55:12
    1. Re: Bandon Genealogy website
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Thanks Steve - tried that but the page content has simply disappeared! The main Bandon Genealogy site is still there, it is just the guest book page which has been lost. If I search using the guest book URL I simply get the domain page of the service provider, which is under reconstruction it seems. Will advise when we have a new guest book up and running and those who posted messages previously might like to return and post afresh. Best wishes and many thanks for all the comments and suggestions on this. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Bandon Genealogy website > I seem to recall from some time ago, that someone said you could check > Google archives, or something like that, to check for old URLs. Never > tried it, but, what the hey? > > Steve in Montana

    03/20/2009 09:08:34
    1. Re: ROSE DOHERTY
    2. Hi June, If Thomas was alive still in 1857, which is a good possibility, there are only 3 Thomas Doherty's in Griffiths: Occupier Surname Occupier Forename Placename County Parish DOHERTY THOMAS MONEREAGH SLIGO EASKY DOHERTY THOMAS DUNOWLA SLIGO KILMACSHALGAN DOHERTY THOMAS TOBERCURRY (PART OF) SLIGO ACHONRY Brendan ----- "June Spooner" <[email protected]> wrote: > HI > > I am new to this list and I am hoping that someone out there is also > researching this particular family. I wish I had more information > and apologize for the lack of it but even so this is what I do have. > > Rose Doherty born 1835 in Ireland, died in Nottingham England in > 1910. > She married Edwin Picken on the 5th Sept.1858 in Wellington, Salop, > Shropshire, England. > > They had 6 children, John 1858, Edward 1860, Sarah Ann 1863, Edward > 1867, Thomas 1876. Alfred 1878 > > The children were all born in Wellington, Shropshire, apart from > Alfred who was born in Nottingham. > > I know that Rose's father was Thomas Doherty who was born in Ireland, > but sadly I do not know the county > Does anyone know anything about this family. > > Regards June > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2009 07:26:28
    1. Re: ROSE DOHERTY
    2. Hi June, You have just contacted the best Rootsweb Irish County site, only problem you will be leaving us to join the Sligo county site. Your illusive little Rose stated in most census returns that she was born in Ireland, in the 1901 census she stated that she was born in Wellington, Shropshire, but in the 1861 return she stated Sligo, Ireland, her husband was Edward and I also get the feeling that some more of her family may have been floating around Shropshire and maybe married to a Picken. Brendan ----- "June Spooner" <[email protected]> wrote: > HI > > I am new to this list and I am hoping that someone out there is also > researching this particular family. I wish I had more information > and apologize for the lack of it but even so this is what I do have. > > Rose Doherty born 1835 in Ireland, died in Nottingham England in > 1910. > She married Edwin Picken on the 5th Sept.1858 in Wellington, Salop, > Shropshire, England. > > They had 6 children, John 1858, Edward 1860, Sarah Ann 1863, Edward > 1867, Thomas 1876. Alfred 1878 > > The children were all born in Wellington, Shropshire, apart from > Alfred who was born in Nottingham. > > I know that Rose's father was Thomas Doherty who was born in Ireland, > but sadly I do not know the county > Does anyone know anything about this family. > > Regards June > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2009 07:11:34
    1. Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Hi again Helen - on M Grogan's website there is some information regarding Castletownroche/Ballyhooley: http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/cork_rc.htm Not sure what date this was done so the contact details may be out of date. But a letter to the PP in either place (or both) might get a response. Worth a try if you haven't already done this. At least it might establish what records survive for Ballyhooley. According to John Grenham - Mallow has the Casteltownroche records but he does not mention Ballyhooley. However on the Irish Times Ancestors site (which I think John Grenham administers) the same information is recorded under the heading Castletownroche/Ballyhooley, with the added information that it does not include originals held in local custody. http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/corkerc.htm Sorry this is not more helpful to you. Best wishes, Patsy Subject: Re: Mallow records >I emailed Mallow this AM. I found 2 listings for David and Castletownroche > is not it - no records matched. The bad news is Ballyhooly where the Conva > or Convamore is does not have RC records on the the IFHF site. I'm trying > to > ascertain if that is a fact. I hope not-- I always strike out in Cork. > Thanks for the help, the saga goes on. > Helen >

    03/20/2009 03:05:05
    1. Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley
    2. John Walton
    3. Hi Helen and Patsy, You most probably are aware of the following, however I thought I would post it maybe for others. Castletownroche (Cloyne) Baptisms...Aug 25 1811 - Dec 29 1834 Jan 2 1835 - Dec 27 1866 Marriages..sept 19 1811 - Oct 18 1885 Nov 29 1845 - Oct 13 1880 All of the above are located at the NLI Pos. 4995, b. 1835 -, m. 1845 - pos. 4996 With respect to Mallow they hold baptisms 1810 -1899 and marriages 1811 - 1899 John...Sydney > Thank you Patsy -- I'll check everything out. Mallow has not responded and > they may not, so I still need all the hints I can get. > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley > > >> Hi again Helen - on M Grogan's website there is some information >> regarding >> Castletownroche/Ballyhooley: >> >> http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/cork_rc.htm >> >> Not sure what date this was done so the contact details may be out of >> date. >> But a letter to the PP in either place (or both) might get a response. >> >> Worth a try if you haven't already done this. At least it might establish >> what records survive for Ballyhooley. >> >> According to John Grenham - Mallow has the Casteltownroche records but he >> does not mention Ballyhooley. However on the Irish Times Ancestors site >> (which I think John Grenham administers) the same information is recorded >> under the heading Castletownroche/Ballyhooley, with the added information >> that it does not include originals held in local custody. >> >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/corkerc.htm >> >> Sorry this is not more helpful to you. >> Best wishes, >> Patsy >> >> Subject: Re: Mallow records >> >> >>>I emailed Mallow this AM. I found 2 listings for David and >>>Castletownroche >>> is not it - no records matched. The bad news is Ballyhooly where the >>> Conva >>> or Convamore is does not have RC records on the the IFHF site. I'm >>> trying >>> to >>> ascertain if that is a fact. I hope not-- I always strike out in Cork. >>> Thanks for the help, the saga goes on. >>> Helen >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2009 02:55:23
    1. ROSE DOHERTY
    2. June Spooner
    3. HI I am new to this list and I am hoping that someone out there is also researching this particular family. I wish I had more information and apologize for the lack of it but even so this is what I do have. Rose Doherty born 1835 in Ireland, died in Nottingham England in 1910. She married Edwin Picken on the 5th Sept.1858 in Wellington, Salop, Shropshire, England. They had 6 children, John 1858, Edward 1860, Sarah Ann 1863, Edward 1867, Thomas 1876. Alfred 1878 The children were all born in Wellington, Shropshire, apart from Alfred who was born in Nottingham. I know that Rose's father was Thomas Doherty who was born in Ireland, but sadly I do not know the county Does anyone know anything about this family. Regards June

    03/20/2009 02:09:54
    1. Re: Bandon Genealogy website
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Thanks Janet - we tried that but it just takes us to the website page of the provider which appears to be under reconstruction. The Bandon website manager is attempting to contact them, so far without success. So we may have to add a guest book page using a different service - all far too complex for me but understood by the other half of the team! Thanks for your interest - in the future this suggestion may work once the site is 'reconstructed'. Regards, Patsy Subject: Re: Bandon Genealogy website > Patsy, If you still have the old URL for the lost messages, you can > recover most of them using the Wayback Machine on the web. > > Janet >

    03/20/2009 02:06:06
    1. Index to Tithe Applotments
    2. Brent Banta
    3. Hello! Can someone please tell me if there is an online source for an index to the Tithe Applotments for Co. Cork? Thank you! Brent

    03/19/2009 05:04:06
    1. Re: Bandon Genealogy website
    2. Steve Franklin
    3. Patricia O'Shea wrote: > Thanks Janet - we tried that but it just takes us to the website page of the > provider which appears to be under reconstruction. > > The Bandon website manager is attempting to contact them, so far without > success. So we may have to add a guest book page using a different service - > all far too complex for me but understood by the other half of the team! > > Thanks for your interest - in the future this suggestion may work once the > site is 'reconstructed'. > > Regards, Patsy > > Subject: Re: Bandon Genealogy website > > > >> Patsy, If you still have the old URL for the lost messages, you can >> recover most of them using the Wayback Machine on the web. >> >> Janet >> I seem to recall from some time ago, that someone said you could check Google archives, or something like that, to check for old URLs. Never tried it, but, what the hey? Steve in Montana

    03/19/2009 01:55:17
    1. RE: Mallow records
    2. Jack Crowley
    3. Could I suggest "Convamore" as in "Convamore House?" This was the residence of Lord Listowel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patricia O'Shea Sent: 18 March 2009 23:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Mallow records Might it be a mis-spelling of Conva? This is in the Ballyhooley parish and Fermoy Poor Law Union and is where one David SMITH is listed in the Griffiths. or Cronvan, which appears to be in the Fermoy Poor Law Union area, parish Gortroe (from Seanruad.com) Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Re: Mallow records > This might not help but my great great grandfather, William Myers, married > Catherine Dempsey in Castletownroche Parish, County Cork 31 January 1818. > The witnesses were Cornelius Dempsey and Patrick Dempsey. This marriage > is listed on page 169 of the Castletownroche and Ballyhooly Marriage > Records, also available from Mallow. > > Their first child was Jeremiah (Darby) Myers, baptized 16 October 1818 in > Castletownroche Parish. The sponsors were Jn. Keeffe and Nel Lynes. > They had three other Children born in Kildorrery Parish, William's home > Parish. Their Townland is listed as 'Crofana' which I can't identify. > > Jeremiah/Darby fathered an illegitimate son with Mary Sullivan in > Kildorrery Parish in 1845. > > John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/19/2009 11:05:24
    1. Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley
    2. Helen
    3. Thank you Patsy -- I'll check everything out. Mallow has not responded and they may not, so I still need all the hints I can get. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Mallow records - Ballyhooley > Hi again Helen - on M Grogan's website there is some information regarding > Castletownroche/Ballyhooley: > > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/cork_rc.htm > > Not sure what date this was done so the contact details may be out of > date. > But a letter to the PP in either place (or both) might get a response. > > Worth a try if you haven't already done this. At least it might establish > what records survive for Ballyhooley. > > According to John Grenham - Mallow has the Casteltownroche records but he > does not mention Ballyhooley. However on the Irish Times Ancestors site > (which I think John Grenham administers) the same information is recorded > under the heading Castletownroche/Ballyhooley, with the added information > that it does not include originals held in local custody. > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/corkerc.htm > > Sorry this is not more helpful to you. > Best wishes, > Patsy > > Subject: Re: Mallow records > > >>I emailed Mallow this AM. I found 2 listings for David and Castletownroche >> is not it - no records matched. The bad news is Ballyhooly where the >> Conva >> or Convamore is does not have RC records on the the IFHF site. I'm trying >> to >> ascertain if that is a fact. I hope not-- I always strike out in Cork. >> Thanks for the help, the saga goes on. >> Helen >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/19/2009 10:21:41
    1. Bandon Genealogy website
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Hi listers. Just to let you know that for reasons beyond our control we seem to have 'lost' our Guest Book link on the Bandon website. Sadly, all the messages left there have been 'lost' as well. We hope to get another one up and running so if you left a message previously and would like to re-leave it, please keep a look out for the new page. Not sure how long this will take. In the meantime, if you are researching in and around the Bandon area, do take a look. www.bandon-genealogy.com/ Regards, Patsy - New Zealand

    03/19/2009 08:51:08
    1. Re: Irish Free State
    2. Mary Mizzi
    3. Reminds me of the time my husband went to register the birth of our first child, a daughter. He smiled at the cheerful policeman who took down the details at our nearest "cop shop". , When asked when he was married he said July 1952 when asked the date of daughters birth he said 19th August......the policeman looked at him with raised eyebrows, to which my flustered husband added, yeah but the following year 1953! The kids still tease us about this!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Irish Free State >I think it helps to remember that any census record is (usually,) only as > good as its informant.....that it's not the record that is wrong but the > person who gave the information. When this happened to me I asked myself > what the informant had tied up in giving wrong information, because surely > he knew where he was born? As it turned out, he didn't, so obviously he > hadn't been listening! Or, did he know and have some other reason for not > revealing his place of birth? Whatever, it's worth investigating what > appear to be mistakes. > . > The other problem with the censuses, in my case English, is the difficulty > in deciphering the enumerator's handwriting on the original images. I am > very grateful to volunteer transcribers and appreciate what they have done > for family researchers, because even if they don't get it exactly right, > they are usually close. > > Off topic, but amusing: one of my great grandfathers must have been so > excited about the birth of his first child that on the registration form > he > stated that he and his wife were married in South Australia, just one year > before the son's birth. I have their Victorian marriage certificate. > What > it told me was that they must have spent some time living in S.A., and > sure > enough, after investigation, they had. > > Judie, > Victoria, Australia. > >

    03/19/2009 08:33:28
    1. Re: Mallow records
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. No trouble Helen - and I guess I'd be teaching you to suck eggs if I said that Johanna could have any number of variants in the records?!!! Best of luck - you could be close to catching them. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Re: Mallow records > Thanks Patsy and John, > > The areas you both mentioned were my target areas because of Griffiths. > I've been afraid to have the research done because I didn't find 2 > corresponding years when I did a marriage search on David and Johanna. I > guess the only way I'll know for sure is to have the research done. I also > have a shot with the births of the 2 daughters if the marriage isn't > found. > Thanks for the help and data. > > Helen

    03/19/2009 07:25:47
    1. Re: Mallow records
    2. Helen
    3. I emailed Mallow this AM. I found 2 listings for David and Castletownroche is not it - no records matched. The bad news is Ballyhooly where the Conva or Convamore is does not have RC records on the the IFHF site. I'm trying to ascertain if that is a fact. I hope not-- I always strike out in Cork. Thanks for the help, the saga goes on. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Crowley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Mallow records > Could I suggest "Convamore" as in "Convamore House?" > This was the residence of Lord Listowel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Patricia O'Shea > Sent: 18 March 2009 23:14 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Mallow records > > Might it be a mis-spelling of Conva? This is in the Ballyhooley parish and > Fermoy Poor Law Union > and is where one David SMITH is listed in the Griffiths. > > or Cronvan, which appears to be in the Fermoy Poor Law Union area, parish > Gortroe (from Seanruad.com) > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > > Subject: Re: Mallow records > > >> This might not help but my great great grandfather, William Myers, >> married > >> Catherine Dempsey in Castletownroche Parish, County Cork 31 January 1818. >> The witnesses were Cornelius Dempsey and Patrick Dempsey. This marriage >> is listed on page 169 of the Castletownroche and Ballyhooly Marriage >> Records, also available from Mallow. >> >> Their first child was Jeremiah (Darby) Myers, baptized 16 October 1818 in >> Castletownroche Parish. The sponsors were Jn. Keeffe and Nel Lynes. >> They had three other Children born in Kildorrery Parish, William's home >> Parish. Their Townland is listed as 'Crofana' which I can't identify. >> >> Jeremiah/Darby fathered an illegitimate son with Mary Sullivan in >> Kildorrery Parish in 1845. >> >> John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/19/2009 07:23:26
    1. Re: Mallow records
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Might it be a mis-spelling of Conva? This is in the Ballyhooley parish and Fermoy Poor Law Union and is where one David SMITH is listed in the Griffiths. or Cronvan, which appears to be in the Fermoy Poor Law Union area, parish Gortroe (from Seanruad.com) Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Re: Mallow records > This might not help but my great great grandfather, William Myers, married > Catherine Dempsey in Castletownroche Parish, County Cork 31 January 1818. > The witnesses were Cornelius Dempsey and Patrick Dempsey. This marriage > is listed on page 169 of the Castletownroche and Ballyhooly Marriage > Records, also available from Mallow. > > Their first child was Jeremiah (Darby) Myers, baptized 16 October 1818 in > Castletownroche Parish. The sponsors were Jn. Keeffe and Nel Lynes. > They had three other Children born in Kildorrery Parish, William's home > Parish. Their Townland is listed as 'Crofana' which I can't identify. > > Jeremiah/Darby fathered an illegitimate son with Mary Sullivan in > Kildorrery Parish in 1845. > > John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona.

    03/19/2009 06:14:24
    1. Re: Irish Free State
    2. Judith
    3. I think it helps to remember that any census record is (usually,) only as good as its informant.....that it's not the record that is wrong but the person who gave the information. When this happened to me I asked myself what the informant had tied up in giving wrong information, because surely he knew where he was born? As it turned out, he didn't, so obviously he hadn't been listening! Or, did he know and have some other reason for not revealing his place of birth? Whatever, it's worth investigating what appear to be mistakes. . The other problem with the censuses, in my case English, is the difficulty in deciphering the enumerator's handwriting on the original images. I am very grateful to volunteer transcribers and appreciate what they have done for family researchers, because even if they don't get it exactly right, they are usually close. Off topic, but amusing: one of my great grandfathers must have been so excited about the birth of his first child that on the registration form he stated that he and his wife were married in South Australia, just one year before the son's birth. I have their Victorian marriage certificate. What it told me was that they must have spent some time living in S.A., and sure enough, after investigation, they had. Judie, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: RE: Irish Free State > The 1930 census does have errors regarding Irish ancestry. It says my > great-grandfather's parents came from Northern Ireland, but one was from > County > Cork, the other from County Clare. > Robin in Maryland > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for > Under > $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/19/2009 05:21:04
    1. Re: Bandon Genealogy website
    2. Janet Crawford
    3. Patsy, If you still have the old URL for the lost messages, you can recover most of them using the Wayback Machine on the web. Janet On 3/19/09, Patricia O'Shea <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi listers. Just to let you know that for reasons beyond our control we seem > to have 'lost' our Guest Book link on the Bandon website. Sadly, all the > messages left there have been 'lost' as well. > > We hope to get another one up and running so if you left a message > previously and would like to re-leave it, please keep a look out for the new > page. > > Not sure how long this will take. In the meantime, if you are researching in > and around the Bandon area, do take a look. > > www.bandon-genealogy.com/ > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/19/2009 05:14:52