Rev Alan Edward Penrose French married Caroline Frances Shore 1903 he was a Rev, I believe Church of Ireland Ross Cathedral Roscarberry, she was the daughter of Francis Arundel Shore a Bank Manager of Dublin. Looking for any descendants. Caroline may have died about 1955 in County Cork. Thanks Bronwyn NZ

If you were to give me some of what you have, I could look at it I frequently travel through the Dunmanway area -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robert inman Sent: 11 April 2009 04:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sam Maguire Dear Mr. Crowley. Thank you for your very informative reply. It was much appreciated! I also thank you for your offer to look for details of Sam Maguire's family. I do not know if he is related to my Maguire ancestors, but he seems to come from the same area as they did. I have been trying to trace my Maguire line for nearing 25 years with only some success in the last several months. It might be a long shot, but I thought that perhaps Sam Maguire just might be a relative! Again, my thanks and I will await your info that you find. Best regards, Rob Inman Jack Crowley wrote: > Sam is buried in a family plot in the churchyard of the St Mary's, Church of > Ireland, Dunmanway. > > http://www.fanlobbus.cork.anglican.org/ > > I have recorded details from his headstone. I will locate them in a day or > so and post them. > > There is an amount of family detail in a book by a lady whose name I think > is Walsh. I will try to find it. The book does not come up on a Google > search. > > The cup you mention is the All Ireland Senior (Gaelic) Football > Championship. It is the highest honour in Gaelic Football. This is not > soccer. It is played for in Croke Park, Dublin in September each year at the > end of a very keenly contested knock out competition. > > > http://dunmanway.pighaswings.com/page/sam_maguire/ > My maternal grandfather was from Ardfield. He was born in 1889. I never > heard say anything about Sam Maguire. As Maguire was 12 years older than him > it is probable he never knew him. My great uncle John was a closer in age to > Maguire. He took a similar career path to the civil service in London. They > all got a wonderful start in life from "The Master Madden". He educated many > boys and enabled to escape from rural subsistence existences to relative > comfort through their own exertions and hard work. Michael Collins was a > pupil there. My grandfather joined the British civil service before WW1 and > later joined the Irish Free State civil service. He got his chance because > of the fine education he received from Master Madden. > > Jack Crowley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf of Jill Morrison > Sent: 09 April 2009 16:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Sam Maguire > > Dia Duit Robert, > Sam Maguire was born in Mallabraca near the town of Dunmanway in West Cork. > You have probably researched the abundances of information written that is > on the web. A search under Dunmanway would give you pictures of the statue > dedicated to him erected on the town green. Dunmanway's Historical > Society may have the information that you are researching. The web address > and telephone number is readily available to you when googled. > Good Luck > > > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, robert inman <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: robert inman <[email protected]> > Subject: Sam Maguire > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:16 AM > > Hi! > Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and > became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking > for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on > his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for > him in Ireland. > I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you > in advance. > Sincerely, Rob Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Mr. Crowley. Thank you for your very informative reply. It was much appreciated! I also thank you for your offer to look for details of Sam Maguire's family. I do not know if he is related to my Maguire ancestors, but he seems to come from the same area as they did. I have been trying to trace my Maguire line for nearing 25 years with only some success in the last several months. It might be a long shot, but I thought that perhaps Sam Maguire just might be a relative! Again, my thanks and I will await your info that you find. Best regards, Rob Inman Jack Crowley wrote: > Sam is buried in a family plot in the churchyard of the St Mary's, Church of > Ireland, Dunmanway. > > http://www.fanlobbus.cork.anglican.org/ > > I have recorded details from his headstone. I will locate them in a day or > so and post them. > > There is an amount of family detail in a book by a lady whose name I think > is Walsh. I will try to find it. The book does not come up on a Google > search. > > The cup you mention is the All Ireland Senior (Gaelic) Football > Championship. It is the highest honour in Gaelic Football. This is not > soccer. It is played for in Croke Park, Dublin in September each year at the > end of a very keenly contested knock out competition. > > > http://dunmanway.pighaswings.com/page/sam_maguire/ > My maternal grandfather was from Ardfield. He was born in 1889. I never > heard say anything about Sam Maguire. As Maguire was 12 years older than him > it is probable he never knew him. My great uncle John was a closer in age to > Maguire. He took a similar career path to the civil service in London. They > all got a wonderful start in life from "The Master Madden". He educated many > boys and enabled to escape from rural subsistence existences to relative > comfort through their own exertions and hard work. Michael Collins was a > pupil there. My grandfather joined the British civil service before WW1 and > later joined the Irish Free State civil service. He got his chance because > of the fine education he received from Master Madden. > > Jack Crowley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf of Jill Morrison > Sent: 09 April 2009 16:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Sam Maguire > > Dia Duit Robert, > Sam Maguire was born in Mallabraca near the town of Dunmanway in West Cork. > You have probably researched the abundances of information written that is > on the web. A search under Dunmanway would give you pictures of the statue > dedicated to him erected on the town green. Dunmanway's Historical > Society may have the information that you are researching. The web address > and telephone number is readily available to you when googled. > Good Luck > > > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, robert inman <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: robert inman <[email protected]> > Subject: Sam Maguire > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:16 AM > > Hi! > Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and > became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking > for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on > his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for > him in Ireland. > I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you > in advance. > Sincerely, Rob Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Jill. Thanks for the reply and suggestion. It was much appreciated! Sincerely, Rob Jill Morrison wrote: > Dia Duit Robert, > Sam Maguire was born in Mallabraca near the town of Dunmanway in West Cork. You have probably researched the abundances of information written that is on the web. A search under Dunmanway would give you pictures of the statue dedicated to him erected on the town green. Dunmanway's Historical Society may have the information that you are researching. The web address and telephone number is readily available to you when googled. > Good Luck > > > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, robert inman <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: robert inman <[email protected]> > Subject: Sam Maguire > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:16 AM > > Hi! > Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and > became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking > for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on > his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for > him in Ireland. > I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you > in advance. > Sincerely, Rob Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sam is buried in a family plot in the churchyard of the St Mary's, Church of Ireland, Dunmanway. http://www.fanlobbus.cork.anglican.org/ I have recorded details from his headstone. I will locate them in a day or so and post them. There is an amount of family detail in a book by a lady whose name I think is Walsh. I will try to find it. The book does not come up on a Google search. The cup you mention is the All Ireland Senior (Gaelic) Football Championship. It is the highest honour in Gaelic Football. This is not soccer. It is played for in Croke Park, Dublin in September each year at the end of a very keenly contested knock out competition. http://dunmanway.pighaswings.com/page/sam_maguire/ My maternal grandfather was from Ardfield. He was born in 1889. I never heard say anything about Sam Maguire. As Maguire was 12 years older than him it is probable he never knew him. My great uncle John was a closer in age to Maguire. He took a similar career path to the civil service in London. They all got a wonderful start in life from "The Master Madden". He educated many boys and enabled to escape from rural subsistence existences to relative comfort through their own exertions and hard work. Michael Collins was a pupil there. My grandfather joined the British civil service before WW1 and later joined the Irish Free State civil service. He got his chance because of the fine education he received from Master Madden. Jack Crowley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf of Jill Morrison Sent: 09 April 2009 16:11 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sam Maguire Dia Duit Robert, Sam Maguire was born in Mallabraca near the town of Dunmanway in West Cork. You have probably researched the abundances of information written that is on the web. A search under Dunmanway would give you pictures of the statue dedicated to him erected on the town green. Dunmanway's Historical Society may have the information that you are researching. The web address and telephone number is readily available to you when googled. Good Luck   --- On Thu, 4/9/09, robert inman <[email protected]> wrote: From: robert inman <[email protected]> Subject: Sam Maguire To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:16 AM Hi! Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for him in Ireland. I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you in advance. Sincerely, Rob Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rob - can't answer your question on Sam's parentage but the Sam Maguire cup is played for in Gaelic football, which is not SOCCER at all!! It seems to the outsider to be a wonderfully anarchic sport and is fiercely contested each year by the various County teams - super stuff. The country is decorated with County flags entirely and cars dash everywhere also sporting their County flags. It's great fun to be there at the time even when you have no idea at all of the intricacies of the game itself - let alone the scoring system!! All the best with your search. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Sam Maguire > Hi! > Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and > became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking > for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on > his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for > him in Ireland. > I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you > in advance. > Sincerely, Rob Canada

Dia Duit Robert, Sam Maguire was born in Mallabraca near the town of Dunmanway in West Cork. You have probably researched the abundances of information written that is on the web. A search under Dunmanway would give you pictures of the statue dedicated to him erected on the town green. Dunmanway's Historical Society may have the information that you are researching. The web address and telephone number is readily available to you when googled. Good Luck   --- On Thu, 4/9/09, robert inman <[email protected]> wrote: From: robert inman <[email protected]> Subject: Sam Maguire To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:16 AM Hi! Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for him in Ireland. I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you in advance. Sincerely, Rob Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi! Would anyone have information on Sam Maguire who came from Cork and became famous in the early part of the Twentieth Century? I am looking for info on his parents and grandparents. Wikipedia only gives info on his siblings. I believe a football (soccer) trophy was later named for him in Ireland. I would really appreciate any assistance or suggestions! I thank you in advance. Sincerely, Rob Canada

Good resource on the Casey Collection http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/caseydescription.html Brendan

Hi. Hoping that this might be on someone's tree. It has been a 25 year mystery that I finally have had some luck in gaining some info since January. Julia Ouin b. abt 1825 Ireland, baptized 1826 County Cork, married to ? Quin Family living in Lancashire in 1861 Daughters: Mary A b. abt 1843 Ireland, baptized 1843 County Cork Julia Ann b. abt 1844 Ireland , baptized 1844 County Cork Julia Ann married Apr-Jun 1864 in Durham, to James Maguire (McQuire) b. abt 1837 Ireland. The family lived in Durham, then poss Yorkshire. Also looking for info and a tree connection on James' parents. His parents were: Hugh Maguire (McGuire) b. abt 1817 Mayo, married abt 1838 Cork, to Margaret Biggan b. abt 1820 poss Mayo. They came to Durham abt 1848. I am especially want to find some accurate dates, such as Julia Quin's birth date and place, along with her marriage date . I haven't found her husband's name, birth date or place. I would like to confirm birth info on the daughters Mary A and Julia Ann. I am getting so confused on names and am not sure how to locate Irish birth and marriage info. If possible, I would like to find out Hugh and Margaret's marriage date and place. I hope someone could help or guide me. Any assistance and suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I thank you in advance. Best Regards, Rob Canada

Margaret Caluori <[email protected]> said: >I have just used this and am really disappointed. One of my ancestors, >Susan (Berry) O'Callaghan witnessed a crime and gave evidence at a trial >in Dublin. At the time she was pregnant with one of her sons, he was >born in 1897. I was really hopeful that I would get further info but >after spending a long time entering details of siblings, marriages, >children etc the page that came up told me nothing that I didn't know >already. Has anyone had a similar experience? I would be delighted to find an ancestor of mine giving testimony in court in 1897. What did you expect to find? Unless her family were mentioned as part of the testimony I wouldn't expect to get any details of them. -dja

I have just used this and am really disappointed. One of my ancestors, Susan (Berry) O'Callaghan witnessed a crime and gave evidence at a trial in Dublin. At the time she was pregnant with one of her sons, he was born in 1897. I was really hopeful that I would get further info but after spending a long time entering details of siblings, marriages, children etc the page that came up told me nothing that I didn't know already. Has anyone had a similar experience? Margaret - London ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> To: "Cork List" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Anglo Irish list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:00 AM Subject: Irish Times Digital Archives > Hi listers. > > For those who have not seen this yet: > > To celebrate 150 years of publication, the Irish Times are allowing free > access to their digital archive (1859 onwards) from 27 March to 6 April. > http://www.irishtimes.com/150/ > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Be advised that the Missing Friends ads database at the O'Neill Library at Boston College is a work in progress. Last time I looked there was no indication on the site as to what years have been done. So, if you do not find the person you are looking for, you might want to check either the hardbound volumes available in some Libraries or the CDROM version. -dja

There is an error message saying this site has been changed or moved - error 404, does anyone have another link. Thanks Patricia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt Sent: 03 March 2009 21:00 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Missing Friends ads I couldn't wait to mention this goody. Mary Heaphy has transcribed Missing Friends ads from The Nation newspaper. These are from all different counties so you will find them under the Ireland General category. Then under newspapers. They make interesting reading even if you don't spot a name. Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry- it is http://infowanted.bc.edu/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hedley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: RE: Missing Friends ads > There is an error message saying this site has been changed or moved - > error > 404, does anyone have another link. > Thanks > Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt > Sent: 03 March 2009 21:00 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Missing Friends ads > > I couldn't wait to mention this goody. Mary Heaphy has transcribed Missing > Friends ads from The Nation newspaper. > These are from all different counties so you will find them under the > Ireland > General category. Then under newspapers. > > They make interesting reading even if you don't spot a name. > Christina > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

infowanted,bc,edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hedley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: RE: Missing Friends ads > There is an error message saying this site has been changed or moved - > error > 404, does anyone have another link. > Thanks > Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt > Sent: 03 March 2009 21:00 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Missing Friends ads > > I couldn't wait to mention this goody. Mary Heaphy has transcribed Missing > Friends ads from The Nation newspaper. > These are from all different counties so you will find them under the > Ireland > General category. Then under newspapers. > > They make interesting reading even if you don't spot a name. > Christina > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have found in the Irish Times look-ups the advertisement in 1877 for the exact piece of land that my great - grandfather bought, and where my grandfather was born. Interestingly, the auctioneer / estate agent / realtor's spiel has not significantly changed down the ages!! Even then they made out that you would be purchasing a real " des res "..... But great to have found it. Mary

Hi Rose, Your link did not work, this one does: http://www.design-clients.com/geneweb/chambers/index.htm Brendan ----- "Roselma Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Bill Fahy for your research. I have some of that data as I > visited Ireland in 1980 . My sister and I had hoped to visit again > but age and aches are preventing it. I have a web site > http://www.design-cllients.com/geneweb put together by my daughter > from my PAF file. My brick wall is my great grandfather, Richard > Chambers, probably born before 1850. Accordilng to legend, he died > young and left two children, Charles and Richard. His wife was Mary > Tyner, but I think Tyner was her name from a second marriage as > Charles had half-brothers named Tyner > > Rose Roberts > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rose, Charles Anthony was born 1856, his father Richard must have been born c 1830. There is no death record for him 1864 on, he must have died late twenties, early thirties. I have picked up a Richard Chambers aged 26, born Dunmanway arriving in New York March 1911 he was visiting his cousin C J Chambers in "Winthsop" ? New York Lawrence County is typed in after, may be related? Brendan ----- "Roselma Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Bill Fahy for your research. I have some of that data as I > visited Ireland in 1980 . My sister and I had hoped to visit again > but age and aches are preventing it. I have a web site > http://www.design-cllients.com/geneweb put together by my daughter > from my PAF file. My brick wall is my great grandfather, Richard > Chambers, probably born before 1850. Accordilng to legend, he died > young and left two children, Charles and Richard. His wife was Mary > Tyner, but I think Tyner was her name from a second marriage as > Charles had half-brothers named Tyner > > Rose Roberts > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rose and Brendan I just caught your post in passing. the county would be St Lawrence County based on the info. The county records are in Canton, NY. This also would imply they came in via the St Lawrence River which potentially opens another can of worms. John On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rose, > > Your link did not work, this one does: > > http://www.design-clients.com/geneweb/chambers/index.htm > > Brendan > ----- "Roselma Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Bill Fahy for your research. I have some of that data as I > > visited Ireland in 1980 . My sister and I had hoped to visit again > > but age and aches are preventing it. I have a web site > > http://www.design-cllients.com/geneweb put together by my daughter > > from my PAF file. My brick wall is my great grandfather, Richard > > Chambers, probably born before 1850. Accordilng to legend, he died > > young and left two children, Charles and Richard. His wife was Mary > > Tyner, but I think Tyner was her name from a second marriage as > > Charles had half-brothers named Tyner > > > > Rose Roberts > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >