Hi Barbara - you may have tried all these already but just in case: There are a number of LORE entries in the BMDs online. Many are from Ulster so it is possible the Presbyterian link leads there as well. http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347 [Click on Europe and scroll down to Ireland] But one or two for Cork - later in the 1800s of course but may be connections. The Mallow Heritage Centre page brings up no exact matches for this name but it does not cover all of Co Cork. There seem to be others searching for this Henry LORE - a Google search will bring up some entries which may be of interest. And of course IGI has a submitted entry which gives very little further information. I am doubtful that Tithe Applotments would help if your man was a minister - the land might be in the name of the church organisation or there might not have been an actual church, just a circuit as was often the case with the Methodists/Wesleyans (although there is certainly a Methodist/Wesleyan church in Bandon). Not a lot of help to you I'm afraid. I looked in the Tithe Defaulters list (not complete coverage of all counties) on Origins but there is no LORE listed there. The only other suggestion I can make, which you may have tried already, is to contact the Presbyterian Church in Ireland http://www.presbyterianireland.org/ to see what records they might hold. Best wishes and good luck, Patsy - New Zealand >> In a message dated 5/8/2009 5:07:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Does anyone have access to the Tithe in County Cork? I am looking for > a >> Henry LORE or his son, Patrick LORE who might have come from County > Cork >> .....having no idea where in the county the Lore family may be from.... >> >> Henry, born about 1816, was supposedly a Presbyterian Minister...his > son >> Patrick LORE was born in 1844 in New York City where his parents were > for >> a >> time before returning to Ireland right after that.... >> >> Patrick returned to the US in 1864 and we have no knowledge of the >> parents >> and do we know the name of the mother >> >> So my next step is to try the Tithes if there is one available... >> >> Barbara

Hi Dennis, I have his obit from the Examiner, I understand that he was buried in the middle of the night in Cahirciveen cemetery You may have to copy & paste into your address bar, put O'Donoghue in the search box, top right http://books.google.ie/books?id=bTtWLgPXtsAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Peter+Hart+IRA+and+its+enemies&ei=rX4KSo_3F5CozgT--ZWxBQ Brendan

Elizabeth Knowlton <[email protected]> said: >My McCartys (McCarthy) in Cork city must have >married a female Winspeare (Yorkshire name) and converted to Church of >Ireland some time in the 18th c or earlier as they baptized each child >First Name Winspeare McCarty in Christchurch Cathedral for as many >generations as they lived there. Even my Foleys, RC until at least 1842, Are you aware of any Hungerford connection? There is the following obit: HUNGERFORD, William Francis "son of Winspeare"; 0; Little Island COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1864-10-12; dja - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Irish Death Notice Database [email protected] | http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Jack were you referring to Meda Ryan's very interesting book on Tom Barry? Mary

[email protected] asked: >I wonder is there any reference in the book to my granduncle Sgt. James >O'Donoghue RIC who was shot dead by the IRA in the early 1920's in White >Street Cork. There should be. See http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmahs/mric.htm for an example. Also, if you have the date, there should be a writeup in the Cork and maybe Dublin papers. -dja

Hi Jack, I have met Peter Hart, I have another relation who was involved in the Kilmichael ambush. James daughter Marie who later became principle of Laurel Hill in Limerick, she became a Nun, interviewed the people and family's who were involved in the killing, they are known as Maria's Diaries, Peter Hart refers to them in his book, my cousin Ethinne now has the diaries, she is married to Professor Peter Barry of Trinity College Dublin. On the night my granduncle was murdered there was a lot of retribution that night, 3 IRA members were shot dead by the RIC, this was the old IRA not to be confused with the modern edition. I suppose I have to ask the question why on one side of my family family members were joining the RIC and on the other side they were involved in subversive activities. I suppose that was Irish politics at the time. Brendan ----- "Jack Crowley" <[email protected]> wrote: > This man gets a mention in "The IRA and its enemies" by Peter Hart. > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0198208065/ref=sib_fs_top?ie=UTF8&p=S00K&c > heckSum=rxqeGNsdXz81s7WBJ2retomHLscqc9rR%2BfOub0FF%2F54%3D#reader-link > > There is some dispute about Hart and his research. I have read a claim > that > he could not have conducted an interview he refers to regarding Ned > Young, > Tom Barry and the Kilmichael Ambush > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 12 May 2009 12:46 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: can you hear me now? > > Hi Dennis, > > I wonder is there any reference in the book to my granduncle Sgt. > James > O'Donoghue RIC who was shot dead by the IRA in the early 1920's in > White > Street Cork. > > Brendan > ----- "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> wrote: > > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. > It's > > an > > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a > price > > (in > > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read > this > > I > > will make another go at sending the information without the euro > > symbol. > > > > -dja > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it time to change the subject line? Thanks donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: can you hear me now? Hi Dennis, I wonder is there any reference in the book to my granduncle Sgt. James O'Donoghue RIC who was shot dead by the IRA in the early 1920's in White Street Cork. Brendan ----- "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> wrote: > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. It's > an > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a price > (in > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read this > I > will make another go at sending the information without the euro > symbol. > > -dja > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear fellow listers, I will not tediously copy below any of the Digest messages I get, but would you PLEASE not repeat all that has gone before when you post--just the snippet necessary to understand your post. If you have Digest (which I need), you cannot "just delete." You have to scroll through the whole thing to read messages 2 and 3 and 4 and etc. I appreciated the remarks on religion I got today. Wish we would all take the time to state religion of the people we are researching because it is so important to the paths we take. Obviously all Christians in western Europe were originally Roman Catholic, but the paths by which some changed are varied and intricate. My McCartys (McCarthy) in Cork city must have married a female Winspeare (Yorkshire name) and converted to Church of Ireland some time in the 18th c or earlier as they baptized each child First Name Winspeare McCarty in Christchurch Cathedral for as many generations as they lived there. Even my Foleys, RC until at least 1842, converted at some point, possibly in Kerry, and then produced several generations of C of I ministers. These are the ones with Gaelic names. On the other hand, a Clarke widow (of a minister!) in the family ran off to Detroit, MI, ca. 1905, was rebaptized as a Roman Catholic, and married Mr. O'Gorman. Even had her children from the first marriage rebaptized. You can never be sure what people will do. Elizabeth W. Knowlto

This man gets a mention in "The IRA and its enemies" by Peter Hart. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0198208065/ref=sib_fs_top?ie=UTF8&p=S00K&c heckSum=rxqeGNsdXz81s7WBJ2retomHLscqc9rR%2BfOub0FF%2F54%3D#reader-link There is some dispute about Hart and his research. I have read a claim that he could not have conducted an interview he refers to regarding Ned Young, Tom Barry and the Kilmichael Ambush -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 12 May 2009 12:46 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: can you hear me now? Hi Dennis, I wonder is there any reference in the book to my granduncle Sgt. James O'Donoghue RIC who was shot dead by the IRA in the early 1920's in White Street Cork. Brendan ----- "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> wrote: > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. It's > an > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a price > (in > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read this > I > will make another go at sending the information without the euro > symbol. > > -dja > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I very much dislike the expression "took the soup". It is an expression of contempt used to describe those who were the very poorest of people at a time famine and great distress. Much has been written about conversions in the poorer parts of rural Ireland, before, during and after the Great Famine. A lot of this commentary is pure twaddle. Lots of native Irish became Anglicans in the 18th century. This was during the Penal Laws. The principal reasons seemed to have been to preserve ownership of lands and to secure entry to professions, notably law. There were fierce objections by protestant lawyers to these new converts as they , maybe rightly, thought they were conforming for commercial reasons and not for reasons of faith and belief in a particular religion. These laws discriminated against Roman Catholics and Dissenters including Presbyterians. There were lots of (temporary) conversions in west Cork in the 19th century. However the numbers fell back later. These were for the most part Anglican and Methodist/Wesleyan. I believe that many Cork protestant families were protestant long before the "soup". The names of protestants with Gaelic names can be seen in all sorts of lists and places such as graveyards. I do not think that the Presbyterians had any missions in the south of Ireland. Their numbers there were always small. They were mostly Scottish business people and also workers such as weavers and plumbers in Cork in the 19th century. They seemed to be the majority of the Presbyterian population. There were of course also soldiers stationed in Cork from time to time. To conclude I think it is unlikely a) That Lore is Leary b) That a Leary was a Presbyterian minister in Cork c) That a Leary became a Presbyterian in Cork in the early 19th century or before. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 12 May 2009 03:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment You could be right. I doubt if any Leary of any spelling variation would "take the soup" and change their religion now would they. :o) Don In a message dated 5/11/2009 6:55:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I very much doubt that Lore is a variant of (O) Leary. It is highly unlikely, though it cannot be totally excluded, that a Leary would have been a Presbyterian minister in Ireland. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 08 May 2009 22:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment Hello again Barbara, No, I can't say for certain that LORE is a variation of LEARY, but I will check it out and let you know. In my research of LEARY on Ancestry.com & other research websites I thought I had seen it as a variation, so will have to go back and review later. Unfortunately I'm having a problem accessing a few websites due to some unexplained malfunction so will refer this info to a friend who may know. Will get back to you asap. Don In a message dated 5/8/2009 5:23:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Don, thank you....we have tried so many variations, but not those two, which are very common....you do know that LORE is one of those variations?....isn't been very hard to find this surname in Ireland and I've had some good researchers helping me..... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment > Barbara, I wonder if LORE was a variation of the surname LEARY or > O'LEARY? > Just a thought as there are many variations of the name and > pronunciation. > > Don > > > In a message dated 5/8/2009 5:07:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone have access to the Tithe in County Cork? I am looking for a > Henry LORE or his son, Patrick LORE who might have come from County Cork > .....having no idea where in the county the Lore family may be from.... > > Henry, born about 1816, was supposedly a Presbyterian Minister...his son > Patrick LORE was born in 1844 in New York City where his parents were for > a > time before returning to Ireland right after that.... > > Patrick returned to the US in 1864 and we have no knowledge of the > parents > and do we know the name of the mother > > So my next step is to try the Tithes if there is one available... > > Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! 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I'm curious to know if there is any information on Canon Peter O'Leary's lineage regarding his uncle & aunt Richard & Nell O'Leary, who lived in Knockanerribul, Co. Kerry, five miles n/e of Killarney. The Canon's ancestry was basically in Liscarrigane & Mullaroe, Co. Cork, but some of the clan were educated in Killarney. I quote a few excerpts from Canon Peter's "My Story" regarding this Richard & Nell O'Leary. "CONOR & NELL (nee Hickey) O'LEARY and children of Mullaroe - They had five sons & three daughters.One of the daughters, Nell, married a Richard O'Leary, who was living west of Knockanerribul, five miles north-east of Killarney, and another daughter went east to Kanturk, for the purpose of giving her brother assistance at the Latin School" My inquiry has to do with the marriage of Richard & Nell O'Leary and any children of this marriage. Where do I look for their marriage record date, their children's names, if any, and years born? Another question would be what Sept did this Richard belong to, was he a Bhui/Buidhe, who married into the Rioch family? Did he and Nell have a son Michael circa 1830? Since discovering that I am a descendant of the Bhui Sept via a DNA test I am trying to follow up on all the possibilities of which Richard O'Leary was really my grt. grt. grandfather, and where my grt. grandfather Michael was born circa 1831. Currently, all leads indicate that my Richard, b.1795, was the youngest brother of the poet Maire Bhui O'Leary (Burke) of Torreenanean, a town land located west of the O'Leary stronghold in Inchigeelagh, Iveleary, near the River Lee. However, I have not been able to find any records on the birth of Michael in Cork or Kerry, who migrated to Wales during or just after the famine. The UK census records of 1861 - 71 & 81 state that his origin was Kerry, as do family rumors & his obit in 1902 in New Castle, Pennsylvania. However, none of these state that Michael was actually born in County Kerry. Would appreciate any assistance. Thank you. Don O'Leary - Back home again in Indiana : **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)

Hi Dennis, I wonder is there any reference in the book to my granduncle Sgt. James O'Donoghue RIC who was shot dead by the IRA in the early 1920's in White Street Cork. Brendan ----- "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> wrote: > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. It's > an > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a price > (in > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read this > I > will make another go at sending the information without the euro > symbol. > > -dja > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brigid, All legible thanks. Apologies if I upset people with my sense of humour and no harm meant to Dennis. Just thought my comment would take the sting out of it and add a sense of fun. Some others have a good sense of humour also. (I enjoyed the feedback) d:o) Dennis, if I upset you I do apologise as it wasn't intended. Kind Regards Jenny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brigid O'Donnell Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:14 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: resending Dennis Ahern posting to List OK, here goes a cut and paste version back to the list of the first post.

Yes Dennis - loud and very clear this time!! Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: can you hear me now? > > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. It's an > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a price (in > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read this I > will make another go at sending the information without the euro symbol. > > -dja

Barbara - have you thought of Lawlor?? Might be a variant of Lore..... Mary

Thanks for the history lesson JC. Don In a message dated 5/12/2009 9:42:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I very much dislike the expression "took the soup". It is an expression of contempt used to describe those who were the very poorest of people at a time famine and great distress. Much has been written about conversions in the poorer parts of rural Ireland, before, during and after the Great Famine. A lot of this commentary is pure twaddle. Lots of native Irish became Anglicans in the 18th century. This was during the Penal Laws. The principal reasons seemed to have been to preserve ownership of lands and to secure entry to professions, notably law. There were fierce objections by protestant lawyers to these new converts as they , maybe rightly, thought they were conforming for commercial reasons and not for reasons of faith and belief in a particular religion. These laws discriminated against Roman Catholics and Dissenters including Presbyterians. There were lots of (temporary) conversions in west Cork in the 19th century. However the numbers fell back later. These were for the most part Anglican and Methodist/Wesleyan. I believe that many Cork protestant families were protestant long before the "soup". The names of protestants with Gaelic names can be seen in all sorts of lists and places such as graveyards. I do not think that the Presbyterians had any missions in the south of Ireland. Their numbers there were always small. They were mostly Scottish business people and also workers such as weavers and plumbers in Cork in the 19th century. They seemed to be the majority of the Presbyterian population. There were of course also soldiers stationed in Cork from time to time. To conclude I think it is unlikely a) That Lore is Leary b) That a Leary was a Presbyterian minister in Cork c) That a Leary became a Presbyterian in Cork in the early 19th century or before. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 12 May 2009 03:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment You could be right. I doubt if any Leary of any spelling variation would "take the soup" and change their religion now would they. :o) Don In a message dated 5/11/2009 6:55:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I very much doubt that Lore is a variant of (O) Leary. It is highly unlikely, though it cannot be totally excluded, that a Leary would have been a Presbyterian minister in Ireland. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 08 May 2009 22:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment Hello again Barbara, No, I can't say for certain that LORE is a variation of LEARY, but I will check it out and let you know. In my research of LEARY on Ancestry.com & other research websites I thought I had seen it as a variation, so will have to go back and review later. Unfortunately I'm having a problem accessing a few websites due to some unexplained malfunction so will refer this info to a friend who may know. Will get back to you asap. Don In a message dated 5/8/2009 5:23:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Don, thank you....we have tried so many variations, but not those two, which are very common....you do know that LORE is one of those variations?....isn't been very hard to find this surname in Ireland and I've had some good researchers helping me..... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: LORE in County Cork.....need Tithe Applotment > Barbara, I wonder if LORE was a variation of the surname LEARY or > O'LEARY? > Just a thought as there are many variations of the name and > pronunciation. > > Don > > > In a message dated 5/8/2009 5:07:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone have access to the Tithe in County Cork? I am looking for a > Henry LORE or his son, Patrick LORE who might have come from County Cork > .....having no idea where in the county the Lore family may be from.... > > Henry, born about 1816, was supposedly a Presbyterian Minister...his son > Patrick LORE was born in 1844 in New York City where his parents were for > a > time before returning to Ireland right after that.... > > Patrick returned to the US in 1864 and we have no knowledge of the > parents > and do we know the name of the mother > > So my next step is to try the Tithes if there is one available... > > Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! 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Hi Denis, No problem at all, I can read your message this time, Brigid has posted your original message though, so we can all read it now! Thanks Brigid. >From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: can you hear me now? > > If I just type stuff, there's no problem, right? > > The problem seems to be in the ascii text file I was including. It's an > old file that hasn't been updated in four years. In it I quote a price (in > euros) for a book by Jim Herlihy about the R.I.C. If you can read this I > will make another go at sending the information without the euro symbol.

Hi Brigid, Since you seem to be the only person who received Dennis's post in English, maybe you could try reposting it for the list? Maybe that would render it legible! >From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brigid O'Donnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:32 AM Subject: Re: It's not Klingon, folks, but plain text >I received both messages and each was totally readable as it was sent > by Dennis Ahern. The only "gibberish" I've seen has been in the > subsequent messages which included the original posts the writer > received. > Brigid.

As did I Steve. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Franklin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: It's not Klingon, folks, but plain text > Brigid O'Donnell wrote: >> I received both messages and each was totally readable as it was sent >> by Dennis Ahern. The only "gibberish" I've seen has been in the >> subsequent messages which included the original posts the writer >> received. >> Brigid. >> > I received Dennis' original post and it contained nothing but symbols. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

well if its not Klingon it must be Romulan or Vulcan live long and prosper