Jenny, There is a strong possibility that O'Callaghan families around Kilshannig are linked. Your findings indicated that your Kilshannig family were landowners or did they transfer the lease for land. My Cornelius was unable to read and at the time of his enlistment into the army in 1846 in Mallow aged abt 23. I suspect that it is the same Cornelius that is recorded as distressed in Mallow in 1846 and that his family were victims of the Famine. He was unable to write and was a labourer when he enlisted which raises questions about his family and the ownership of land. In 1846 his family may well have owned land but met hard times and lost everthing. I have spoken to a local O'Callaghan and there is an interest in conducting some local research. I intend to return to Mallow next year and hope to find some information about Kilshannig cemetery. There are some later O'Callaghan graves there and I was informed that a local lady had information about the churchyard. ] After enlisting, his name was recorded Callaghan which remained until after his death in 1873 and so my search grows. A while ago I found an Ed Callaghan from the USA researching (O) Callaghan and I am trying to locate him as his family came from Glantane, Kilshannig. Many thanks Richard Brisbane - AUSTRALIA

I came across a reference to this book that you might investigate.   St. Dominick's Old Cemetery: Glanworth History and Inscriptions, publshed by the Glanworth Community Council / Fas 1990-91

Margaret, I believe there is a Cof I graveyard in Boherash near Glanworth. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: R.C. CHURCH NEAREST DUNMAHON/GLANWORTH 1838 > Is anyone able to tell me what would be the nearest R.C. church for > Dunmahon and Glanworth, Co Cork 1838 era please. > > Also what burial ground for someone who died 1839. Searching for John REA. > > Any ideas about films available at LDS for viewing please? > > Thanks > Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, You need to spend time if your suranmes and forenames are common. I play around with years, siblings names, etc.. Marriages are easy if you find the same year for a Patrick Kelly and Mary Kehoe a parish will be easy. You can get to this by clicking on the county also but here's the link: http://corknortheast.brsgenealogy.com/ Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Picard To: [email protected] Cc: Helen Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Irish B-M-D site Helen Went to IFHF.com and that's it! ;o) However, I don't see how to get the parishes. I do see the parishes on the Tipperary page. I don't know the url for the Cork page. Do you have it? Ellen Kelly's father was Patrick Kelly and her mother Mary Kehoe. Both surnames have numerous variants and all forenames were perhaps found in most families in Ireland at the time. thanks. judy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Helen <[email protected]> To: Judy Picard <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:47:36 PM Subject: Re: Irish B-M-D site Judy, I think you're talking about the IFHF site. I recently discovered a branch of my family using the site. You need to be real careful on that site. If you know Ellen Kiely's fathers forename use that to narrow your choices. I then go through each RC or CI parish depending on your religion in the county using the names to narrow it to a parish. If I know the mother's name I look for a marriage or baptism in that parish. I found a family in Cork that fit the age and father's name of mine in the townland of Aghada. I decided to get the baptism hoping the mother's name would ring a bell, it did not. Curiosity got the best of me and I got the whole family of Ellen Clancy and James Sweeney. I then got a baptism for James Sweeney and Ellen Clancy and from there got James' and Ellen's parents. All that sounds wonderful but how can I be sure it's me? I have some great data on Clancy and Sweeney families in the Aghada area and I'm not 100% sure . 2/3'rds of Cork is a big area, I'm sure there is another Edmund Sweeney born to a James circa 1825 in Cork. I have lots of records on Clancy's ,Sweeney's and a new name cropped up"Sisk". I'd be happy to pass it all along, all from the Mallow Centre. I did get great data from Tipp. that I'm totally sure is mine. \ I learned a valuable lesson about clicking happily away in my searches. 5 Euro is abt. $7, when I got the bill I saw the light. I spent far too much for records that might not be my ancestors. I'd be happy to share anything I have on the surnames I mentioned. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Picard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: Irish B-M-D site > Within the past year I found an url that gave an index of Irish bmd's and you could pay @$5 to get the details of items like the following: > > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > > Does anyone know what site that was? > > judy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is also a small C of I graveyard just north of Glanworth in Rockmills, Kildorrery Parish. John Myers, Cave Creek, AZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Walton<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:48 PM Subject: Re: R.C. CHURCH NEAREST DUNMAHON/GLANWORTH 1838 Margaret, I believe there is a Cof I graveyard in Boherash near Glanworth. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: R.C. CHURCH NEAREST DUNMAHON/GLANWORTH 1838 > Is anyone able to tell me what would be the nearest R.C. church for > Dunmahon and Glanworth, Co Cork 1838 era please. > > Also what burial ground for someone who died 1839. Searching for John REA. > > Any ideas about films available at LDS for viewing please? > > Thanks > Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone able to tell me what would be the nearest R.C. church for Dunmahon and Glanworth, Co Cork 1838 era please. Also what burial ground for someone who died 1839. Searching for John REA. Any ideas about films available at LDS for viewing please? Thanks Margaret

Judy, I think you're talking about the IFHF site. I recently discovered a branch of my family using the site. You need to be real careful on that site. If you know Ellen Kiely's fathers forename use that to narrow your choices. I then go through each RC or CI parish depending on your religion in the county using the names to narrow it to a parish. If I know the mother's name I look for a marriage or baptism in that parish. I found a family in Cork that fit the age and father's name of mine in the townland of Aghada. I decided to get the baptism hoping the mother's name would ring a bell, it did not. Curiosity got the best of me and I got the whole family of Ellen Clancy and James Sweeney. I then got a baptism for James Sweeney and Ellen Clancy and from there got James' and Ellen's parents. All that sounds wonderful but how can I be sure it's me? I have some great data on Clancy and Sweeney families in the Aghada area and I'm not 100% sure . 2/3'rds of Cork is a big area, I'm sure there is another Edmund Sweeney born to a James circa 1825 in Cork. I have lots of records on Clancy's ,Sweeney's and a new name cropped up"Sisk". I'd be happy to pass it all along, all from the Mallow Centre. I did get great data from Tipp. that I'm totally sure is mine. \ I learned a valuable lesson about clicking happily away in my searches. 5 Euro is abt. $7, when I got the bill I saw the light. I spent far too much for records that might not be my ancestors. I'd be happy to share anything I have on the surnames I mentioned. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Picard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: Irish B-M-D site > Within the past year I found an url that gave an index of Irish bmd's and > you could pay @$5 to get the details of items like the following: > > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > > Does anyone know what site that was? > > judy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, thanks = from your website it looks like your Haggerties were from near Bandon - mine are from west of Skibbereen. Barbara in St. Louis, MO, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Haggerty Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Finding the land in West Cork Unfortunately, my "Hagertie" ancestors left Cork in the mid 1820s. We do know what townlands some of the family lived in, but so far I haven't been able to identify any land records that go back that far? According to Kilmeen parish baptism records, my ggg grandparents, William Hagertie and his wife Elizabeth Beamish lived in Kildee in April 1816, Maulitanvally in July 1819; Elizabeth died there and William and 4 children emigrated to Canada in 1823. Other parish records for William's siblings place his sister Amelia in Kildee when she married in July 1810--she later emigrated to the USA; brother James in Kildee in 1813 and in Ballygurteen from April 1815 to Sept 1825 (emigrated to Canada in 1827) and a letter dated 1815 indicates they left Kildee at that time; sister Jane Boyd, wife of James, lived in Maulitanvally in Feb 1816--they emig to USA in 1821; and brother George lived in Ballygurteen from Sept 1821 until Aug 1824 and emig to Canada in 1827 and then to USA a few years later. Sharon Haggerty Bowen Island, BC http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sharonmh/Haggertie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Banta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Finding the land in West Cork > Sorry, I wasn't following the thread, but the Tithe Applotments can > also give connections between names and land for the time around > 1830. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Helen Went to IFHF.com and that's it! ;o) However, I don't see how to get the parishes. I do see the parishes on the Tipperary page. I don't know the url for the Cork page. Do you have it? Ellen Kelly's father was Patrick Kelly and her mother Mary Kehoe. Both surnames have numerous variants and all forenames were perhaps found in most families in Ireland at the time. thanks. judy ________________________________ From: Helen <[email protected]> To: Judy Picard <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:47:36 PM Subject: Re: Irish B-M-D site Judy, I think you're talking about the IFHF site. I recently discovered a branch of my family using the site. You need to be real careful on that site. If you know Ellen Kiely's fathers forename use that to narrow your choices. I then go through each RC or CI parish depending on your religion in the county using the names to narrow it to a parish. If I know the mother's name I look for a marriage or baptism in that parish. I found a family in Cork that fit the age and father's name of mine in the townland of Aghada. I decided to get the baptism hoping the mother's name would ring a bell, it did not. Curiosity got the best of me and I got the whole family of Ellen Clancy and James Sweeney. I then got a baptism for James Sweeney and Ellen Clancy and from there got James' and Ellen's parents. All that sounds wonderful but how can I be sure it's me? I have some great data on Clancy and Sweeney families in the Aghada area and I'm not 100% sure . 2/3'rds of Cork is a big area, I'm sure there is another Edmund Sweeney born to a James circa 1825 in Cork. I have lots of records on Clancy's ,Sweeney's and a new name cropped up"Sisk". I'd be happy to pass it all along, all from the Mallow Centre. I did get great data from Tipp. that I'm totally sure is mine. \ I learned a valuable lesson about clicking happily away in my searches. 5 Euro is abt. $7, when I got the bill I saw the light. I spent far too much for records that might not be my ancestors. I'd be happy to share anything I have on the surnames I mentioned. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Picard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: Irish B-M-D site > Within the past year I found an url that gave an index of Irish bmd's and you could pay @$5 to get the details of items like the following: > > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork > > Does anyone know what site that was? > > judy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My point exactly John, and it's not just the Bishops unfortunately. Last year I visited a Heritage Centre in person - this particular centre does not hold records of interest to me but I wanted to see how they operated. We saw the files of transcripts lining the bookshelves around the room and looked in one or two while waiting. When I asked about folks coming from around the world to search them, I was told that 'Oh no, they can't do that - we aren't set up for that'. This despite the numerous tables around the room as well as computers. On further asking what would happen when these folk did arrive we were told that they would either be given the 'search form' to fill in and leave for staff to research (cost about 65 Euro and you can do this online) or be sent down the road to the nearest computer cafe or library to do an 'online search' just as we already can from our own homes. If they found a likely entry and wished to view it they would pay of course - 5 Euro per view - having already funded their trip to Ireland from wherever. [Note that searching the microfilms of church records in the National Library or National Archives does not attract any fee at all. Also that the transcripts held by the Heritage Centres have been done largely using public money]. After this experience I found that the Ministry of Tourism also covers Cultural matters and here is an extract from their Arts and Culture Plan 2008 Church Records Computerisation Project It is clear that Ireland needs a comprehensive set of genealogical records on the Internet that can provide a motivation for potential overseas visitors, can enable people living in Ireland to carry out family and social research. It is with this in mind that the ongoing work on the Church Records Computerisation Project assumes a major importance from a tourism and cultural perspective. In time, this project will be coupled with the Census Digitization work of the National Archives to create an integrated database of social and genealogical history for Ireland. [end] So the powers that be are aware of the issue but there is no 'action' in the plan to go with this statement. I have written to the Department seeking an update on this matter and will post any response I receive. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Free availability of Irish Records > Trish > I agree with you 1000%! If we could identify these parcels of origin to > walk > upon we would not be alone. How many in your family would make the exact > same trek? I will answer for mine, MANY. As it is, they stay home, waiting > for a place to go. My goal is to deliver that place within their > lifetimes, > that place they are so proud of but don't know. Too bad for those rural > places in west Cork that we originate that could really use the business. > In September, I will visit my German homeland for a bicycle tour because > they make this information available and they are not afraid to share. My > towns in Germany are very rural and still 1000 residents max. Some are as > few as 10 houses. If Germany can do it, why can't the Irish? I have German > Lutheran and Catholic. It is all available. > My mother is a Buckley and the Bishop is a Buckley just to irk me some > more. > > I have zero plans to go Ireland any time soon until I have an origin. > John (Grumpy in Lake Placid) > >> Patsy in New Zealand writes: "I have long argued that it would benefit >> Irish tourism if those living overseas could access more readily the >> information which might identify a location in Ireland for their >> ancestors >> which they could then visit. Limerick City seems to agree."

Unfortunately, my "Hagertie" ancestors left Cork in the mid 1820s. We do know what townlands some of the family lived in, but so far I haven't been able to identify any land records that go back that far? According to Kilmeen parish baptism records, my ggg grandparents, William Hagertie and his wife Elizabeth Beamish lived in Kildee in April 1816, Maulitanvally in July 1819; Elizabeth died there and William and 4 children emigrated to Canada in 1823. Other parish records for William's siblings place his sister Amelia in Kildee when she married in July 1810--she later emigrated to the USA; brother James in Kildee in 1813 and in Ballygurteen from April 1815 to Sept 1825 (emigrated to Canada in 1827) and a letter dated 1815 indicates they left Kildee at that time; sister Jane Boyd, wife of James, lived in Maulitanvally in Feb 1816--they emig to USA in 1821; and brother George lived in Ballygurteen from Sept 1821 until Aug 1824 and emig to Canada in 1827 and then to USA a few years later. Sharon Haggerty Bowen Island, BC http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sharonmh/Haggertie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Banta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Finding the land in West Cork > Sorry, I wasn't following the thread, but the Tithe Applotments can > also give connections between names and land for the time around > 1830.

Within the past year I found an url that gave an index of Irish bmd's and you could pay @$5 to get the details of items like the following: Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork Baptism Keily Ellen 1828 Co. Cork Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork Baptism Kelly Ellen 1828 Co. Cork Does anyone know what site that was? judy

Trish, Mallow Heritage Center only covers North Cork which is only a about third of its entirety. Bill Fahy www.westcorkgenealogy.com

There is a Cornelius O'Callaghan on World Connect, in the area of Kilshannig. Also a newspaper extract of O'Callaghan marrying William Baldwin. 1858 Rock Cottage Schull. Lorraine

>Trish wrote: "However, the point of my Irish search is to find the land >upon which my > > great-grandfather walked. Sorry, I wasn't following the thread, but the Tithe Applotments can also give connections between names and land for the time around 1830. They are indexed on CD at many Family History Centers, and then you have to do some eye-burning prowling in the microfilm. If this option is not available, I will be happy to do some preliminary searching. If you can verify the townland where the ancestor lived in the Tithe Applotments, you may then be able to pinpoint the plot on the maps which accompany online versions of Griffith's Valuation. It is not an exact matching process, but it can be useful. Sometimes this is the only option because many families left the land in the 1840's, before the survey on which Griffith's is based, and thus their names do not show. Let me know if I can help. Best regards, Brent

This reply hasn't made it through, so this is version 2! Hi Richard, I have an O'Callaghan from Kilshannig, my 5 X Great Grandmother & 6 X Great Grandfather. On the 11th September 1736 at the C of I Church at Kilshannig, Thomazin O'Callaghan [who was Roman Catholic & the daughter of Anthony O'Callaghan of Dromore ] married Thomas Vowell [C of I] . Thomas died in 1749 & Thomazin married again to Edward O'Dell. I came across a will abstract dated 24 Feb 1729 which referred to Anthony Callaghan of Dromore & Daniel Callaghan, his sixth son. In 1731 Anthony Callaghan transfers lands at Kilvaleton to Georg Foot, husband of Judith Callaghan. In 1766 a list of "Popish" inhabitants of Mallow includes Anthony Callaghan. It seems quite possible that your Cornelius is descendant of Anthony Callaghan. Thomazin's Granddaughter Susan VOWELL married Rev Michael Henry BECHER & lived at Clyda House at Kilshannig from 1818-1850. From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:10 PM > Subject: Callaghan, O'Callaghan from Glantane Nr Mallow Co Cork > > >> After visiting Mallow, Kilshannig and Dublin Reg office, I was able to >> see my GGGreat Grandfather, Cornelius Callaghan's (O'Callaghan) death >> Certificate. >> He was born Glantane abt 1823 and left Ireland to return in 1870 with his >> wife Elizabeth and four children. Cornelius died in August 1873 and >> was living across Mallow bridge in Ballydaheen. His place of Death was >> The Cartigans which I have been informed is a house in Baldaheen. >> I have two questions ? >> 1. Are there any Callaghan's (O'Callaghan) researchers out there with >> ancestors from Glantane, Kilshannig Nr Mallow. >> 2. Does anyone know of The Cartigans house, its history, purpose abt >> 1873. >> Richard Isaac >> Brisbane - AUSTRALIA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Sheila Connolly wrote: "...I was once in the same position and managed to track down various great-greats' land in West  Cork.  I'm not sure where you're having trouble.  Do you have the  family names?  A townland or two?  Griffith's Valuation is searchable  for surnames, and if you have more than one family name, all the better...."   Hi Sheila, Here's what I've done.  Two of my proven ancestors, John and James DALY were in Ohio, USA by 1833, according to a land purchase by James.  By the 1840 Census, James is married and living in a  town next to John.  John lives alone.   By 1843, they both died.    In 1844, my GrGf, Lawrence DALY signed a land deed with Jame's widow.  I assume they were married, as they went on to have two sons.    John's birth year can be somewhat "fixed" at 1795, as he is said to be 48y in his will that was written in 1843.  James, from the Census "age" groups, was born 1800-1809.  Lawrence's birthyear is as follows:  1807 on tombstone, and  1810, 1811, 1812 and 1814 on the various US Censuses.  On the 1900 Census, he was said to have come to US in 1830, but I find no records.   In 1859 a Michael DALY came to the US.  He was born anywhere from 1832-1838.  He married a Catherine O'ROURKE in 1861, and she had come in 1860.  I thought that they might have known each other in IRE, but can't prove it.  I'm not sure how Michael and Lawrence are related, but Michael and Catherine lived on Lawrence's land when they arrived in Ohio.   I've contacted Mallow, which seems to be the Cork repository, but they tell me that everything they have is online, and I find no records for my GrGf, Lawrence.  It doesn't seem that I will learn anything by sending them research money.   I don't have any townlands.  If you can suggest something, I'd be most grateful.  According to Lawrence Daly's naming of his sons, he had: James, Francis, Lawrence, William, by Anne Marie.  She was from Massachussetts, and she died in Ohio, 1860.    In 1862, Lawrence married Mary Ann Egan, who'd been in the US since 1851.  They named their sons: John Patrick, Franklin James,  Thomas Alfred/Albert, Timothy Aloysius and Barnard Joseph.  They had 2 daughters: Anne Marie and Mary Frances.    Michael Daly used the names: John, Thomas, Charles and William.  The girls were:  Anna, Mary, Catherine, Agnes.   I'd appreciate any suggestions. Trish

Margaret writes: === Is anyone able to tell me what would be the nearest R.C. church for Dunmahon and Glanworth, Co Cork 1838 era please. Also what burial ground for someone who died 1839. === I have some information for you on these places.........but I am leaving in a couple of hours to visit my parents, and won't return until Wed. or Thurs. There are several burial ground possibilites and the old RC church in Glanworth is now used as a "community centre". There is a new one, built in the 1940's. I'll get the info together and post it after I return, unless you get all of the information before then [gr]. Pete .................................................... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Hi All I agree that the records should be freely available to anybody that wants to access them. county Clare is on par with some of Cork and many other counties in Ireland where we are denied the right to search the records for our families http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/county-clare-records.html Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Free availability of Irish Records > My point exactly John, and it's not just the Bishops unfortunately. > > Last year I visited a Heritage Centre in person - this particular centre > does not hold records of interest to me but I wanted to see how they > operated. > > We saw the files of transcripts lining the bookshelves around the room and > looked in one or two while waiting. > > When I asked about folks coming from around the world to search them, I > was > told that 'Oh no, they can't do that - we aren't set up for that'. This > despite the numerous tables around the room as well as computers. > > On further asking what would happen when these folk did arrive we were > told > that they would either be given the 'search form' to fill in and leave for > staff to research (cost about 65 Euro and you can do this online) or be > sent > down the road to the nearest computer cafe or library to do an 'online > search' just as we already can from our own homes. If they found a likely > entry and wished to view it they would pay of course - 5 Euro per view - > having already funded their trip to Ireland from wherever. > > [Note that searching the microfilms of church records in the National > Library or National Archives does not attract any fee at all. Also that > the > transcripts held by the Heritage Centres have been done largely using > public > money]. > > After this experience I found that the Ministry of Tourism also covers > Cultural matters and here is an extract from their Arts and Culture Plan > 2008 > Church Records Computerisation Project > > It is clear that Ireland needs a comprehensive set of genealogical records > on the Internet that can provide a motivation for potential overseas > visitors, can enable people living in Ireland to carry out family and > social > research. It is with this in mind that the ongoing work on the Church > Records Computerisation Project assumes a major importance from a tourism > and cultural perspective. > > In time, this project will be coupled with the Census Digitization work of > the National Archives to create an integrated database of social and > genealogical history for Ireland. [end] > > So the powers that be are aware of the issue but there is no 'action' in > the > plan to go with this statement. I have written to the Department seeking > an > update on this matter and will post any response I receive. > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: Free availability of Irish Records > > >> Trish >> I agree with you 1000%! If we could identify these parcels of origin to >> walk >> upon we would not be alone. How many in your family would make the exact >> same trek? I will answer for mine, MANY. As it is, they stay home, >> waiting >> for a place to go. My goal is to deliver that place within their >> lifetimes, >> that place they are so proud of but don't know. Too bad for those rural >> places in west Cork that we originate that could really use the business. >> In September, I will visit my German homeland for a bicycle tour because >> they make this information available and they are not afraid to share. My >> towns in Germany are very rural and still 1000 residents max. Some are as >> few as 10 houses. If Germany can do it, why can't the Irish? I have >> German >> Lutheran and Catholic. It is all available. >> My mother is a Buckley and the Bishop is a Buckley just to irk me some >> more. >> >> I have zero plans to go Ireland any time soon until I have an origin. >> John (Grumpy in Lake Placid) >> >>> Patsy in New Zealand writes: "I have long argued that it would benefit >>> Irish tourism if those living overseas could access more readily the >>> information which might identify a location in Ireland for their >>> ancestors >>> which they could then visit. Limerick City seems to agree." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Richard, I have an O'Callaghan from Kilshannig, my 5 X Great Grandmother & 6 X Great Grandfather. On the 11th September 1736 at the C of I Church at Kilshannig, Thomazin O'Callaghan [who was Roman Catholic & the daughter of Anthony O'Callaghan of Dromore ] married Thomas Vowell [C of I] . Thomas died in 1749 & Thomazin married again to Edward O'Dell. I came across a will abstract dated 24 Feb 1729 which referred to Anthony Callaghan of Dromore & Daniel Callaghan, his sixth son. In 1731 Anthony Callaghan transfers lands at Kilvaleton to Georg Foot, husband of Judith Callaghan. In 1766 a list of "Popish" inhabitants of Mallow includes Anthony Callaghan. It seems quite possible that your Cornelius is descendant of Anthony Callaghan. Thomazin's Granddaughter Susan VOWELL married Rev Michael Henry BECHER & lived at Clyda House at Kilshannig from 1818-1850. >From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Callaghan, O'Callaghan from Glantane Nr Mallow Co Cork > After visiting Mallow, Kilshannig and Dublin Reg office, I was able to see > my GGGreat Grandfather, Cornelius Callaghan's (O'Callaghan) death > Certificate. > He was born Glantane abt 1823 and left Ireland to return in 1870 with his > wife Elizabeth and four children. Cornelius died in August 1873 and was > living across Mallow bridge in Ballydaheen. His place of Death was The > Cartigans which I have been informed is a house in Baldaheen. > I have two questions ? > 1. Are there any Callaghan's (O'Callaghan) researchers out there with > ancestors from Glantane, Kilshannig Nr Mallow. > 2. Does anyone know of The Cartigans house, its history, purpose abt > 1873. > Richard Isaac > Brisbane - AUSTRALIA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >