My father (William John MARTIN b 03 May 1900 d 30 Oct 1974) once remarked to my sister that went to sea for a while but gave it up when his ship sank and the crew had to take to the boats. We all took this with a pinch of salt but I decided to put the story to the test There's a useful new site at http://www.irishmariners.ie which contains a database of Irish merchant mariners. The database contains details of (currently) 15000 Irish-born merchant mariners active in 1918-1921, and is based on the CR10 records held at Southampton Archives Service. The database is searchable (and free to use) and will eventually include approx 25000 names. Data available for the seamen includes data and place of birth, voyages undertaken, certificates attained and, in some cases, home and next of kin. Many of the original records include photographs of the seamen, a sample of which are on the site. Putting Dad's name into the search engine produced a reference to this record - (The date and city of birth are identical). Martin, William John (sailor) Identity No.445500. Born: 1900-05-03, Londonderry, (Co:Londonderry) Disch A No: 1022140 Photo: f5 hair Notes: Renewal I have now ordered a copy of the old sailor's CR10 card from Southampton Archives Services Southampton Archives Services Civic Centre Southampton SO14 7LY Tel. (023) 8083 2251 Email: city.archives@southampton.gov.uk city.archives@southampton.gov.uk city.archives@southampton.gov.uk Website: www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/history/archives/ They can provide copies of the cards in various formats. The original CR10 cards are 5 inches by 3 inches in size, which is a bit small to do justice to many of the photographs. I asked for a 50% enlargement of the original on a Laser A4 photocopy. This will make the most of the photo and the card will be in colour. Current cost (July 2008) is £1.25 for each side which makes the overall cost of the card £2.50 plus postage and search fee of £2.00. (if you quote the full name and ID Number ) Send a cheque. We should find out what ships this Jolly Jack Tar was on and if any of them sank - Watch this space! Liam http://postmanbill2.tribalpages.com/ "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

List Members, Irish Census Digitization Project, reply from the Library Archives of Canada (LAC), remember this is a joint project with the National Archives of Ireland, I believe Canada was putting up some of the cash at the front end. I think Kyle's reply will answer most of our questions on the subject. I have Snipped my original email, other than that the reply is intact. Bob Cdn ============================================ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Client Comment - Irish Census Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:29:24 -0400 From: Browness Kyle <Kyle.Browness@lac-bac.gc.ca> To: <hiflyte@telus.net> Hello Bob, Thank you for your email and your interest in the Irish Census Digitization project. This project has been in production for over two years now and at this time much progress is being made. Work is still underway on the databases which contain all of the remaining geographical data and nominal indexes, which will allow you to search for your ancestor by name. The next phase of the digitisation project, comprising counties Antrim, Down and Kerry, will be launched this coming October 2008. The other counties will follow in the order laid out at _http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/futureplans.html_ between then and mid-2009. More precise timescales will be posted at _http://www.nationalarchives.ie/census.html_ when available. I encourage you to continue to visit _http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/_ This is where any official announcements will be made in regards to the project and next releases. We are doing our best to work with the National Archives to bring this material online as soon as possible, we understand that there is a great deal of interest for this material to be made available. It is my understanding that the original census records are still available for research at the National Archives in Dublin. For specific information on how to consult these, please contact the National Archives of Ireland directly: _http://www.nationalarchives.ie/contactus/contact.html_ Announcements about the next online releases will also be made on the Library and Archives Canada website, via our "Shamrock and Maple Leaf" web exhibition featured at: _www.collectionscanada.ca/ireland_ <http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ireland>. Related to Irish-Canadian heritage we will also be launching a Grosse Ile Web site soon and encourage you to check back at _www.collectionscanada.ca_ <http://www.collectionscanada.ca> for more information. For full information on the partnership between Library and Archives Canada and the National Archives of Ireland, please visit: _http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/ireland/021019-1401-e.html_. Thank you once again and should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Regards, Kyle Browness ==============================================

The Ireland GenWeb Project now has the 1864 Ireland Birth Index online through the letter K. The Ls are almost completed and we are currently working on the Ms. You can check out the index on the IGW Project homepage at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Donegal Researchers, Late by two days - Sunday 20 July 2008 1. To obtain a copy of the Donegal Researchers database go to the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Both websites have the same data. "Click Here to Download the Donegal Researchers List" (RED BOX) A box will open select "Save to Disk" button and hit OK Also read the other paragraphs on the page regarding viewing the DB. The updated version of this List will be issued bi-week, usually Friday. An email to the Donegaleire List will keep you informed. ============================ There is a new Page outlining how to submitted your data., which I hope it is easier to follow. It is very easy to get at just click on the link below the Red Box "Click here to Open Instruction page" =========================================== Bob Cdn. ==================================

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The Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives (IGPA), County Donegal have been updated. A big thank you to Anne Ward for contributing the file. Doherty Deaths County Donegal http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on Donegal/vital Records Have you some item of genealogy interest, all types of files, photos of documents, headstones are welcomed at the Archives. If you would like to contribute files or images to the Donegal or Laois (Queens) Archive please contact me or send the files to my email address listed on the home page of the IGPA website. Contributions for other counties in Ireland are also welcomed, contact the county coordinator listed on the home page. Visit our new home http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ try our new search engine on the home page. Enjoy Bob Donegal and Laois IGPA File Manager

Unfortunately I don't know. I only have marriage and death certificates, and history of James positions as a minister. James and Cecilia came to NZ with their living children when they were aged in their 50's. I would be grateful for any suggestions where I might look. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: <dcurole@bellsouth.net> To: <irl-co-donegal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] Rev James Marshall b 1826 m Cecilia English1851 > Would there be any Orr, Carrigan, Or Corrigan names? Thanks > Cheryl > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank-you for your time to look at this for me. The death certificate of James Marshall (jnr) states he was born in Donegal Ireland. His marriage certificate (Dublin) had his residence as Trinity College, and his father as James Marshall, Clerk. An entrance document from Gray's Inn states he was the fourth son of James Marshall snr. James Marshall jnr was perpetual curate of St Mark Ballysillan Belfast from 1856-1884. James Marshall jnr was my Granny's Grandfather. He came to NZ with about 11 of his 16 children in 1884. One of his children was Leslie Cunningham Marshall, the author of a text on linen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net>

Julie Click on the URL http://postmanbill2.tribalpages.com/ and have a look at "Irish Genealogy - A Family History Primer" by Liam Martin Liam A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew & Julie" <optimum.boyd@xtra.co.nz> To: <irl-co-donegal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] Rev James Marshall b 1826 m Cecilia English1851 > Unfortunately I don't know. > I only have marriage and death certificates, and history of James > positions > as a minister. James and Cecilia came to NZ with their living children > when > they were aged in their 50's. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions where I might look. > > Julie > ----- Original Message -----

Would there be any Orr, Carrigan, Or Corrigan names? Thanks Cheryl -------------- Original message from hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net>: -------------- > Julie, > > No data on the actual names you are looking for but did find an > interesting Marshall entry with the Cunningham surname embedded. > All are from the 1860 + in Donegal > > Could lead to others in the family. > MARSHALL, James Alexander Birth > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 16 Dec 1869 Birthplace: Manor Cunningham, Don, Ire > Recorded in: Donegal, Ireland > Collection: Civil Registration > Father: William Cunningham MARSHALL > Mother: Hannah ALEXANDER > Source: FHL Film 101201 Dates: 1869 - 1870 > ------------------------------------ > MARSHALL, Birth > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 3 Mar 1871 Birthplace: 21o, Manorcunningham, > Don, Ire > Recorded in: Donegal, Ireland > Collection: Civil Registration > Father: William Cunningham MARSHALL > Mother: Hannah ALEXANDER > Source: FHL Film 255811 Dates: 1871 - 1872 > --------------------------------------------------- > MARSHALL, Alexander Samuel Bir 1868 Irel Done > Fa: Alexander MARSHALL > Mo: Eliza Jane THOMPSON > > MARSHALL, Julia Bir 1869 Irel Done > Fa: John MARSHALL > Mo: Jane POLLOCK > > MARSHALL, Thomas Bir 1869 Irel Done > Fa: Thomas MARSHALL > Mo: Catherine DEYERMOT > > MARSHALL, Jane Bir 1875 Irel Done > Fa: Robert MARSHALL > Mo: Anne COOKE > ----------------------------------------------------- > Marriages: > MARSHALL, Mary Marr 1851 Irel Done AlSain > Sp: Samuel SMYTH > MARSHALL, John Marr 1853 Irel Done Raphoe > Sp: Jane POAK > MARSHALL, Alexander Marr 1854 Irel Done Drumho > Sp: Eliza Anne THOMPSON > MARSHALL, George Marr 1854 Irel Done Temple > Sp: Jane HAMILTON > MARSHALL, Samuel Marr 1854 Irel Done UppMov > Sp: Jane E. LYLE > MARSHALL, John Marr 1855 Irel Done Tullya > Sp: Mary ALEXANDER > MARSHALL, James Marr 1860 Irel Done AlSain > Sp: Eleanor HAGAN > MARSHALL, James Marr 1860 Irel Done AlSain > Sp: Eliza Jane SMYTH > MARSHALL, Thomas Marr 1860 Irel Done Taughb > Sp: Elizabeth WALKER > > ============================================ > Andrew & Julie wrote:I am looking for information on my Irish ancestors. > Rev James Marshall's (C of Ireland) father was also Rev James Marshall > (Presbytarian) of Milford, and his mother's surname was Cunningham. Any > info would be greatly appreciated.... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on my Irish ancestors. Rev James Marshall's (C of Ireland) father was also Rev James Marshall (Presbytarian) of Milford, and his mother's surname was Cunningham. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Julie Boyd

Julie, No data on the actual names you are looking for but did find an interesting Marshall entry with the Cunningham surname embedded. All are from the 1860 + in Donegal Could lead to others in the family. MARSHALL, James Alexander Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 16 Dec 1869 Birthplace: Manor Cunningham, Don, Ire Recorded in: Donegal, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William Cunningham MARSHALL Mother: Hannah ALEXANDER Source: FHL Film 101201 Dates: 1869 - 1870 ------------------------------------ MARSHALL, Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 3 Mar 1871 Birthplace: 21o, Manorcunningham, Don, Ire Recorded in: Donegal, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William Cunningham MARSHALL Mother: Hannah ALEXANDER Source: FHL Film 255811 Dates: 1871 - 1872 --------------------------------------------------- MARSHALL, Alexander Samuel Bir 1868 Irel Done Fa: Alexander MARSHALL Mo: Eliza Jane THOMPSON MARSHALL, Julia Bir 1869 Irel Done Fa: John MARSHALL Mo: Jane POLLOCK MARSHALL, Thomas Bir 1869 Irel Done Fa: Thomas MARSHALL Mo: Catherine DEYERMOT MARSHALL, Jane Bir 1875 Irel Done Fa: Robert MARSHALL Mo: Anne COOKE ----------------------------------------------------- Marriages: MARSHALL, Mary Marr 1851 Irel Done AlSain Sp: Samuel SMYTH MARSHALL, John Marr 1853 Irel Done Raphoe Sp: Jane POAK MARSHALL, Alexander Marr 1854 Irel Done Drumho Sp: Eliza Anne THOMPSON MARSHALL, George Marr 1854 Irel Done Temple Sp: Jane HAMILTON MARSHALL, Samuel Marr 1854 Irel Done UppMov Sp: Jane E. LYLE MARSHALL, John Marr 1855 Irel Done Tullya Sp: Mary ALEXANDER MARSHALL, James Marr 1860 Irel Done AlSain Sp: Eleanor HAGAN MARSHALL, James Marr 1860 Irel Done AlSain Sp: Eliza Jane SMYTH MARSHALL, Thomas Marr 1860 Irel Done Taughb Sp: Elizabeth WALKER ============================================ Andrew & Julie wrote:I am looking for information on my Irish ancestors. Rev James Marshall's (C of Ireland) father was also Rev James Marshall (Presbytarian) of Milford, and his mother's surname was Cunningham. Any info would be greatly appreciated....

Marilyn . There are McElwees in Launceston Tasmania Australia . Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn LYLE To: irl-co-donegal@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] [DONEGALEIRE] Mevagh Church Graveyard -Cty Donegal I am sending a reply because of your search for Moore family. I am also searching for them and Davies and McElwee family near Ramelton and Milford area. My Moore's settled in Scott CO Iowa about 1850. Davies and McElwee stayed in Donegal. Any connections? I want to know if the church records of Milford or Ramelton are available. does anyone know? Thanks, M. Lyle

I am sending a reply because of your search for Moore family. I am also searching for them and Davies and McElwee family near Ramelton and Milford area. My Moore's settled in Scott CO Iowa about 1850. Davies and McElwee stayed in Donegal. Any connections? I want to know if the church records of Milford or Ramelton are available. does anyone know? Thanks, M. Lyle

Eleanor, I only wish I was connected to your family. Even though I'm not, however, I really am encouraged by your willingness to help others and the knowledge that work is being done to preserve what remain of the old graves. A gravestone for someone who lived from about 1714 to 1796 is to be appreciated, whether it's your family or not. Of course, I live in the U.S., where 1796 would be a rarity among surviving gravestones. Settlers used whatever stone was available, and here in Pennsylvania, unfortunately, that often meant limestone. The settlers may not have known how quickly limestone erodes, and there are countless stones of that sort where the inscription is barely even visible, much less recognizable. I am curious about the fleu-de-lis. It of course has been a French symbol from ancient times, but it was also used on compasses for many centuries. Perhaps John McElhinny was a mariner. "Old genealogists never die. They just lose their census." Loretta -----Original Message----- From: irl-co-donegal-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-co-donegal-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor Wright Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 17:41 To: hiflyte; IRL-CO-Donegal; IRL-Donegal - List; IRL-Donegaleire-L Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] [DONEGALEIRE] Mevagh Church Graveyard - CtyDonegal Hi All Mevagh Church Graveyard is just cross the burn from my farm my grandmother Catherine McElhinney was born. The house is still there although sold. I visit there every September to relatives in the area. I agree ih Maureen the people of Ireland did not alway have to put up a "Fancy" stone to remember their dead. In fact I used to play in this graveyard as a child and it was then full of the old headstone - I just wished I had written them all down then. One of the McBride men and a few others are keeping the graveyard in better condition now as a project and many thanks to them for that. However the oldest stone in the graveyard is a John McElhinny dated 1796 at the age of 82 and his wife. I reckon they are probably our original McElhinney's but at the moment cannot prove it. It is a large slab with a fleur de lieu (probably not spelt right) at the bottom of the stone. It is over on the left of the graveyard about half way down where I understand some of our McElhinney's were buried but the slab has now been damaged and the name McGee scratched onto it and used as a covering stone for their grave. Just goes to show that recycling still goes on. Anyway I have transcribed some of the graves so it I have any more information and anyone wants it you are welcome to email me. If you are looking to find it take the road out of Carrigart towards Dowings and at the turn in the road head straight on up the hill onto the Altantic Drive. You will come to a pub known as "The Singing Pub" and just across from this is the narrow road that leads down to the graveyard and ruins of the old church. Again someone was asking about Doe Castle graves. I have most of them written down as a lot of my extended family tree are in it such as the Speers, Moores etc. Again anyone wanting to know more about who is buried in there can contact me and I would love to make another connection. By the way both graves have always buried both religions in it and the majority in Doe are protestant. Space is always at a premiem and I understand it is only existing families that are allowed to bury there now. Regards and hope to contact someone with an interest. Eleanor Wright Researching McElhinney, Hay, Speer, Moore, Wilson and more.

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Hi All Mevagh Church Graveyard is just cross the burn from my farm my grandmother Catherine McElhinney was born. The house is still there although sold. I visit there every September to relatives in the area. I agree ih Maureen the people of Ireland did not alway have to put up a "Fancy" stone to remember their dead. In fact I used to play in this graveyard as a child and it was then full of the old headstone - I just wished I had written them all down then. One of the McBride men and a few others are keeping the graveyard in better condition now as a project and many thanks to them for that. However the oldest stone in the graveyard is a John McElhinny dated 1796 at the age of 82 and his wife. I reckon they are probably our original McElhinney's but at the moment cannot prove it. It is a large slab with a fleur de lieu (probably not spelt right) at the bottom of the stone. It is over on the left of the graveyard about half way down where I understand some of our McElhinney's were buried but the slab has now been damaged and the name McGee scratched onto it and used as a covering stone for their grave. Just goes to show that recycling still goes on. Anyway I have transcribed some of the graves so it I have any more information and anyone wants it you are welcome to email me. If you are looking to find it take the road out of Carrigart towards Dowings and at the turn in the road head straight on up the hill onto the Altantic Drive. You will come to a pub known as "The Singing Pub" and just across from this is the narrow road that leads down to the graveyard and ruins of the old church. Again someone was asking about Doe Castle graves. I have most of them written down as a lot of my extended family tree are in it such as the Speers, Moores etc. Again anyone wanting to know more about who is buried in there can contact me and I would love to make another connection. By the way both graves have always buried both religions in it and the majority in Doe are protestant. Space is always at a premiem and I understand it is only existing families that are allowed to bury there now. Regards and hope to contact someone with an interest. Eleanor Wright Researching McElhinney, Hay, Speer, Moore, Wilson and more. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: "IRL-CO-Donegal" <IRL-CO-DONEGAL-L@rootsweb.com>; "IRL-Donegal - List" <IRL-DONEGAL-L@rootsweb.com>; "IRL-Donegaleire-L" <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Mevagh Church Graveyard - Cty Donegal List Members, Another gem from our roving Irish reporter --- Siobhán, Gallagher has contributed the cemetery file for Mevagh Church Graveyard in Cty Donegal. "Mevagh Church Graveyard is located on Co. Donegal’s northern coastline on an unnamed road (unnamed according to my GPS anyway), along the signposted Atlantic Drive in Rosapenna, GPS coordinates N55.21062, W7.81094" I wish to thank Siobhán for this addition to the website. You can view the file at: http://tinyurl.com/57w5zv The file will be uploaded to the IGPA /Donegal website --- soon. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Have a nice day Bob Cdn When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message