Donegal Researchers, Friday 1 August 2008 1. To obtain a copy of the Donegal Researchers database go to the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Both websites have the same data. "Click Here to Download the Donegal Researchers List" (RED BOX) A box will open select "Save to Disk" button and hit OK Also read the other paragraphs on the page regarding viewing the DB. ============================ There is a new Page outlining how to submitted your data., which I hope it is easier to follow. It is very easy to get at just click on the link below the Red Box "Click here to Open Instruction page" =========================================== Bob Cdn. ==================================

Lindel mentioned "Ask About Ireland's Griffith's section" was now up and running! Great Stuff!! "The link is http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_start.php If you also want to see an aerial photograph with great close-up detail, enter the townland you're after then zoom around until you find the spot indicated on the 1850s map - the aerial photographs are dated 2000 & 2004. The link is http://gis.donegal.ie/gplan_donegalcc/" One can also download Google Maps 4.3 from the URL http://earth.google.com/, where areas of County Donegal are available in great detail. Griffiths indicates that my great granduncle farmed plot 24 in Gortnaskea Townland, Fahan Upper Parish. One can place a marker at the spot 55° 4'27.41"N and 7°21'17.46"W and add his Griffiths data viz Griffiths Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 MCSHEAFFRY Forename 1 WILLIAM Landlord Family Name 2 MAXWELL Forename 2 PETER Location County DONEGAL Barony INISHOWEN, WEST Union LONDONDERRY Parish FAHAN, UPPER Townland GORTNASKEA Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Valuation ID 1525319 Position on Page 46 Printing Date 1858 Act 15&16 Image ID 071026 Sheet Number 38 Map Reference 24 The zoom facility allows me to walk around the field without the need to fly over there from Manchester. I also have a marker for my grandfather's grave in Derry City Cemetery. If you key in "Marnoo East Victoria Australia", you can see the plots of land (106 and 177) farmed by my Great grand uncle James Carey (1872-1899) to the left of the Wimmera Highway (B240) at the junction with Boyle Road and ALSO Greys Bridge Cemetery where he is buried. See the URL http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Marnoo,+australia&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.650793,143.008347&spn=0.13056,0.2314&t=h&z=12&om=1Happy HuntingLiam"A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"----- Original Message -----From: "Lindel" <lbuckle@ihug.co.nz>To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; <irl-co-donegal@rootsweb.com>;<irl-donegal@rootsweb.com>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:24 PMSubject: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] 1857 Griffith's Valuation & Maps Online> Ask About Ireland's Griffith's section is now up and running!> You can search by name or townland and once the results come up, you can> view the original valuation and the corresponding 1850s map.> The link is http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_start.php> If you also want to see an aerial photograph with great close-up detail,> enter the townland you're after then zoom around until you find the spot> indicated on the 1850s map - the aerial photographs are dated 2000 & 2004.> The link is http://gis.donegal.ie/gplan_doneg! alcc/> If you then want more info on the townland in your parish of interest,> then visit Bob Hilchey's website.> The link is>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bhilchey/DonegalMain.html> Happy hunting!> Lindel> Donegal Genealogy Resources -> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/>

Ask About Ireland's Griffith's section is now up and running! You can search by name or townland and once the results come up, you can view the original valuation and the corresponding 1850s map. The link is http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_start.php If you also want to see an aerial photograph with great close-up detail, enter the townland you're after then zoom around until you find the spot indicated on the 1850s map - the aerial photographs are dated 2000 & 2004. The link is http://gis.donegal.ie/gplan_donegalcc/ If you then want more info on the townland in your parish of interest, then visit Bob Hilchey's website. The link is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bhilchey/DonegalMain.html Happy hunting! Lindel Donegal Genealogy Resources - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/

Barry R McCain in his Ulster Heritage DNA Project Update 28 July 2008 reports two talks given at the 17th Ulster American Heritage Symposium Archaeologist Audrey Horning talked on the settlement of Scottish Gaels in Antrim on the eve of the Plantation; these were Roman Catholic and Gaelic speaking families who settled with the permission of the McDonnells of the Glens and Route. There were Catholic Lowland Scots that settled in Tyrone and more Scottish Gaels into Donegal. All these themes are extremely important to those of us hunting ancestors. These groups do not fit in the Presbyterian Ulster Scot stereotype, yet they also participated in the 18th Century migration to the Colonial USA and then others went into Canada in the 1830s. Professor Peter Toner of St Thomas University, New Brunswick is following the large Presbyterian Irish speaking communities in New Brunswick circa 1850s into the 20th Century. Yes, there were several communities of Irish speaking Presbyterians from Ulster in New Brunswick. Irish speaking Catholic Scots-Irish - whatever next! Eleanor Hull writing in her "History of Ireland" In 1628 Sir John Bingley reports that "there are at present in that city (Dublin) fourteen houses for the exercise of the Mass and one more remarkable than the rest for the Jesuits"; and the Bishop of Ossory gave the names of thirty priests working in his diocese. The general relaxation of the penal laws could not be better shown than by the multitude of English priests and Jesuits who took flight to Ireland for safety from the severe enactments that were the result of the discovery of the Gunpowder Plot in 1605, two years after James's accession to the throne, and by the advice given by Davies that priests and Jesuits, when captured in Ireland, should be sent over to England, where the penal laws could deal with them. The same thing happened in the North. Catholics from Scotland came flocking into Ulster to escape the severe penal laws "which gave them no rest" in their own country. They settled on the estates of the Earl of Abercorn and of Sirs William and Richard Hamilton, and of other Scottish nobles who welcomed them on their properties in accordance with the planters' desire to encourage English and Scottish tenants. It looked as if the efforts of James to make Ulster Protestant as a part of his "civilizing" policy were destined to failure, and that Ulster would speedily become as Catholic as the South; the Bishop of Derry complained to Claude, Master of Abercorn, that his diocese had become "a sink for all the corrupt humours purged out of Scotland." It is probable that many families of the present population of the North, looked down upon by the Protestant interest as Irish Catholics, are descendants of this immigration of Catholic Scots. Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

Oooops. so sorry.....replied to the wrong e-mail. > I have the opportunity to have a mini-rock contect for the DWYER TEENS/young > people for the friday night of Dwyer Reunion 2009. Carla's brother-in-law > Sam in part of the band Darby Redford. What do you think? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the opportunity to have a mini-rock contect for the DWYER TEENS/young people for the friday night of Dwyer Reunion 2009. Carla's brother-in-law Sam in part of the band Darby Redford. What do you think?

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Hello All, MacLysaght 'The Surnames of Ireland' MacENTAGGART Mac an tSagairt (sagart, priest) An Ulster name with many variants, eg (Mac)Taggart, Attegart, etc. Even Tiger has been recorded. It is perpetuated in the placename Ballymacataggart [see Fermanagh]. MacATEER Mac an tSaoir (saor, craftsman). An Ulster name for which the Scottish MacINTYRE, of similar derivation, is widely substituted. Ballymacateer is a place bame in Co. Armagh, which is its homeland. Mac an tSaoir is sometimes Anglicized Wright in Fermanagh. For further information see MacLysaght's book 'More Irish Families' which I don't have. fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com is a good list for that county. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK HMWEBBER@aol.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 Subject: Question abt. 1846 & more Questions-- McENTAGGART - McINTYRE back ground on the surname McENTAGGART, (or any variant spelling), in Co. Donegal before 1846? Any locations in Co. Donegal where this surname might be from? _________________________________________________________________ Play and win great prizes with Live Search and Kung Fu Panda http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719966/direct/01/

Just a note to point out that Lindel has an extensive section on Kilmacrenan, Cty Donegal at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/kilmacproj.htm Google: Kilmacrenan famine: http://tinyurl.com/5w3kmo Bob Cdn =================================== Patricia wrote: > <SNIP>... have read some books about the famine but none have that have > covered Kilmacrenan. > Patricia in Alberta > ============================

I referred to the unsuccessful search for my maternal great granduncle James CAREY in an email "Lost in Oz" on Mon, 26 Sep 2005 at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/donegaleire/2005-09/1127689938 and at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/nir-antrim/2005-09/1127689868 James CAREY has now been "found" and an account of the six year search for this elusive relative has been published in the August 2008 edition of the magazine "Practical Family History" (No 129) pp 24-28 as "Lost in Oz - My search for James Carey". See also (when they update it from July to August) the URL http://www.family-tree.co.uk/this-month-pfh.html Many thanks to the emailers who assisted me in running down JC, including "Ray in Oz", Laurie and also "Joan Hunt, President BDGS, and Convenor BDGS Research Team. Ballarat & District Genealogical Society Inc." and Eleanor Pugsley and Beverley Spinks of the Genealogical Society of Victoria Liam http://postmanbill2.tribalpages.com/ "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

Liam & Bob, Thank you, I knew it had to do with the famine that was unquestionable -- I'm trying to figure out what other factors entered into this picture. Now that it has been narrowed down to the Parish of Kilmcrenan -- was land confiscated in this area in 1845-46? Does any one else have family that come from the Parish of Kilmcrenan to the USA about this time period 1845-46??? Any family stories that have been handed down from before 1845-46? Was Thomas' passage paid by someone else, who sent a group over from the Parish of Kilmcrenan? Was this kind of thing being done in 1845-46, by a priest, a landlord, etc., in the Parish of Kilmcrenan? Why did Thomas take the expensive route from Co. Donegal to Liverpool to NYC -- why didn't he take the cheaper route from Co. Donegal to Derry to Canada? Did a group from the Parish of Kilmcrenan come & settle in the same areas in the USA in 1845-46? Thomas settle in Reading, Berks Co., PA! I have the "Report on the Irish Naturalized in Delaware Co., PA," -- Co. Donegal is at the top of the list with 272 males naturalized before 1860. They mainly came from Co. Donegal to Derry to NYC or to Philadelphia! Interesting! In 1845-46 was one route of departure favored over another? Weren't they all hungry! (rhetorical) Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 358-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com Professional Genealogist Local Historian Founder of:   The Delaware County Genealogical Society (DCGS) LOOKS UPS: Index for Wills in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1920 Index for Administrations in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1920 Index for Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., PA 1795 - 1926 Index to Estate Case Files in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1880         (Orphan's Court.) Index to Criminal Cases 1791 - 1873 Septennial Census 1807 Delaware County Septennial Census 1828 Delaware County Chester School Attendance Records - 1897-98 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Marriages 1873-1933 (intermittent) Immaculate Heart of Mary - Baptism 7 Sep 1873 - 22 Jun 1884 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Cemetery 1903-1939 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records May 1887 to 1896 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records Dec 1900 to May 1902 E. F. White Funeral Records 1923-25 for:     Immaculate Heart of Mary Cemetery     The Delaware County Home Cemetery (Potter's Field) St. Martin's Cemetery 1693 - 1972 or later. ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

I too am interested in the questions you have asked. Is there any books covering Kilmacrenan during this time period? I have been looking for information regarding my Dever family for years. James Dever who was married to Sarah Cheatley in Kilmacrenan came to Canada in 1862. I have often wondered what prompted their leaving. Was the worst of the famine over by then? I have read some books about the famine but none have that have covered Kilmacrenan. Patricia in Alberta -----Original Message----- From: irl-co-donegal-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-co-donegal-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of HMWEBBER@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:11 AM To: L.Martin@zen.co.uk; hiflyte@telus.net; DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com; IRL-CO-DONEGAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] [DONEGALEIRE] More Questions-- McENTAGGART-McINTYRE Liam & Bob, Thank you, I knew it had to do with the famine that was unquestionable -- I'm trying to figure out what other factors entered into this picture. Now that it has been narrowed down to the Parish of Kilmcrenan -- was land confiscated in this area in 1845-46? Does any one else have family that come from the Parish of Kilmcrenan to the USA about this time period 1845-46??? Any family stories that have been handed down from before 1845-46? Was Thomas' passage paid by someone else, who sent a group over from the Parish of Kilmcrenan? Was this kind of thing being done in 1845-46, by a priest, a landlord, etc., in the Parish of Kilmcrenan? Why did Thomas take the expensive route from Co. Donegal to Liverpool to NYC -- why didn't he take the cheaper route from Co. Donegal to Derry to Canada? Did a group from the Parish of Kilmcrenan come & settle in the same areas in the USA in 1845-46? Thomas settle in Reading, Berks Co., PA! I have the "Report on the Irish Naturalized in Delaware Co., PA," -- Co. Donegal is at the top of the list with 272 males naturalized before 1860. They mainly came from Co. Donegal to Derry to NYC or to Philadelphia! Interesting! In 1845-46 was one route of departure favored over another? Weren't they all hungry! (rhetorical) Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 358-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com Professional Genealogist Local Historian Founder of:   The Delaware County Genealogical Society (DCGS) LOOKS UPS: Index for Wills in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1920 Index for Administrations in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1920 Index for Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., PA 1795 - 1926 Index to Estate Case Files in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1880         (Orphan's Court.) Index to Criminal Cases 1791 - 1873 Septennial Census 1807 Delaware County Septennial Census 1828 Delaware County Chester School Attendance Records - 1897-98 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Marriages 1873-1933 (intermittent) Immaculate Heart of Mary - Baptism 7 Sep 1873 - 22 Jun 1884 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Cemetery 1903-1939 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records May 1887 to 1896 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records Dec 1900 to May 1902 E. F. White Funeral Records 1923-25 for:     Immaculate Heart of Mary Cemetery     The Delaware County Home Cemetery (Potter's Field) St. Martin's Cemetery 1693 - 1972 or later. ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM

Hi lists, Is their anyone who could give me some back ground on the surname McENTAGGART, (or any variant spelling), in Co. Donegal before 1846? Any locations in Co. Donegal where this surname might be from? Why would my Thomas McENTAGGART - McINTYRE leave Co. Donegal before Mar 1846? Any ideas? What was going on in Co. Donegal in years just prior to 1846? Thomas, entered the USA, at the Port of New York from Liverpool on Mar 1846 -- so says his Naturalization Record! I have not been able to find him on any ship! :( I appreciate any feedback you can give me! :) ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

HMWEBBER????, No real data on your names but the version" McEntagggart is not listed in Griffiths Valuation for Donegal. There are a number of McTaggarts listed mainly in the Parish of Kilmcrenan. This will at least show you the area they lived in. See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/Griff_Val/gv_lm/gv_m51.htm The Famine in Donegal of 1845 - 1850 may have been a contributing factor to him leaving. Other than the above that is all I have. Bob Cdn ====================================== HMWEBBER@aol.com wrote:<SNIP> ...Any locations in Co. Donegal where this surname might be from. Thomas, entered the USA, at the Port of New York from Liverpool on Mar 1846 -- so says his Naturalization Record! I have not been able to find him .... ========================================

If I am not mistaken, there is a Sweeney website for the donegal clan.? They have reunions every year or two, if you google it you may find it. -----Original Message----- From: acheson@uniserve.com To: irl-co-donegal@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 2:14 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] Sweeney Thanks for letting me know. For some reason my message were being sent before I could finish! Anyway I am looking for Sweeney decendants from the Skerry area of Donegal. Now I don't have my notes with me, so can't tell you more other than I am looking for decendants of Edward Sweeney and Jane Hay (Hayes,Hays) Thanks Judy Quoting JJack Harron <jdhfl1@yahoo.com>: > Judy -- There was no message with your posting... --- Jack > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for letting me know. For some reason my message were being sent before I could finish! Anyway I am looking for Sweeney decendants from the Skerry area of Donegal. Now I don't have my notes with me, so can't tell you more other than I am looking for decendants of Edward Sweeney and Jane Hay (Hayes,Hays) Thanks Judy Quoting JJack Harron <jdhfl1@yahoo.com>: > Judy -- There was no message with your posting... --- Jack > > >

Donegal Researchers, Friday 25 July 2008 1. To obtain a copy of the Donegal Researchers database go to the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Both websites have the same data. "Click Here to Download the Donegal Researchers List" (RED BOX) A box will open select "Save to Disk" button and hit OK Also read the other paragraphs on the page regarding viewing the DB. The updated version of this List will be issued bi-week, usually Friday. An email to the Donegaleire List will keep you informed. ============================ There is a new Page outlining how to submitted your data., which I hope it is easier to follow. It is very easy to get at just click on the link below the Red Box "Click here to Open Instruction page" =========================================== Bob Cdn. ==================================

Judy -- There was no message with your posting... --- Jack ----- Original Message ---- From: Judy Quinn <acheson@uniserve.com> To: IRL-CO-DONEGAL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:48:31 PM Subject: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] Sweeney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CO-DONEGAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message