Thanks Sharon..............guess I should concentrate my efforts on NARA. Kevin ----- Original Message ---- From: sharon carberry <smc85p@yahoo.com> To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:53:48 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Castle Garden Let me add a little something to what Jeanne posted. For those who have been doing gen. research for a while, this will seem redundant but there are some family historians who, while benefiting from the digital era, may not be aware of other resources. This was brought home to me this year in my two attempts to access films at the NARA branch here in Georgia. On both occasions the professional staff members in the research room denied my request for retrieval of films from storage and instead insisted that research be done with Ancestry.com. I have now succeeded in gaining use of the NARA Regional Director's phone number for the next time this I encounter a similar denial of access to NARA films. It does show how embedded online research has become in genealogy. The best source for Castle Garden passenger lists is the collection of NARA films available at the branches on Varick St. in NYC, at Pittsfield in Western MA, and in the NARA headquarters in Washington, D.C. At those locations, so far as I know, the films are out in the public research room and a researcher can access them directly. Another, more limited way to obtain that data is to go to the NARA website and use the AAD section's database labelled Irish Famine ship records, for the time period chosen by NARA. The Michael Tepper series of volumes (just Google for the official title) also provides transcriptions of the same passenger lists for the time period that he chose, from about 1845 to 1851. Fortunately that series is widely available in U.S. public libraries. Even when all is consulted and all lists have been transcribed, passengers will be missing because many ship manifests have not been preserved. I remember the joy of finding a set of incoming ancestors in the Germans to America series after consulting it for over ten years, waiting for their ship manifest to be included as volume after volume was published. I had gotten to the point that I thought surely theirs was one of the missing ones. Remember to look for women under their maiden names, even when incoming with their husbands. I knew of that for Irish and Italians, but this Luxembourg family also stated their names in that way. Sharon Carberry USA Jeanne Foley Dwyer <socrates_399@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi, Kevin, I fished around and finally found the answer to your question, presuming that the Castle Garden Passenger List Project is the same as I found at www.castlegarden.org It definitely isn't finished yet. The following is a copy-and-paste from the home page of the above link: CastleGarden.org offers free access to an extraordinary database of information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892, the year Ellis Island opened. Over 73 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early immigration period. Castle Garden, today known as Castle Clinton National Monument, is the major landmark within The Battery, the 23 acre waterfront park at the tip of Manhattan. From 1855 to 1890, the Castle was America's first official immigration center, a pioneering collaboration of New York State and New York City. CastleGarden.org is an invaluable resource for educators, scholars, students, family historians, and the interested public. Currently the site hosts 10 million records, and support is needed to complete the digitization of the remaining 2 million records, beginning in 1820, from the original ship manifests. The Battery remains one of the oldest public open spaces in continuous use in New York City. American Indians fished from its banks, and the first Dutch settlers built a low, stone wall with cannons, a battery to protect the harbor and New Amsterdam. The transformations of The Battery and that of the Castle tell the history of New York and, by association, the growth and development of our nation. Jeanne Kevin Fitzpatrick wrote: Is the Castle Garden Passenger List Project completed or is it still a work in process? Is it worthwhile to check periodically for new listings, or are additions unlikely? Is there a more complete list at any other source? Kevin Fitzpatrick ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. 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