Hi Sharon, When I was in Quin (this past April) I ate at a pub there. The pub's owner had a brother who was a jockey and there were numerous pictures, trophies, racing memorabilia there, an interesting place. I spoke to the owner and we discussed that one jockey who was accused of throwing an race (having the horse back off at end of race). A friendly place. It's not quite a museum, but interested me enough to walk around while I waited for dinner and peruse all the displays. I just checked my planner, and this pub was named "The Monk's Well" regards, Jim McNamara ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon carberry" <smc85p@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Carbery obituary '07 > Liz, > > Thank you for thinking of me and my surname project today. Seeing your > posting was just the best way to start the day, after being up till 2:30 > a.m. cleaning up (taking out lots of usually-hidden code language) in the > McMahon file which I transferred from my old computer to this new one. It > prompts me to > think of how little progress I would have made with my genealogy projects > if we family historians did not stop our own research once in a while and > do something for others. > > I must disclose, however, that I do not try to keep up with current family > news, for two reasons - (1) I am sensitive about appearing too nosy and > (2) if I ever determine the actual county of origin for my own Clare > residents of the 1800s, it will be the crowning achievement in my Carberry > research, for there is no hope of my effort being anything but deeply > historical in nature. I have totally batted out with connecting to > current Carberry cousins, after locating two long-lost sets of them here > in the U.S. and reaching out to more than one person in each set. Those > are closed circles, so I now shy away from anything to do with the living. > > However, this month brought the news that a member of the Carberry > YahooGroup which I organized has found a long-lost cousin in France who is > as avid a family historian as she is (she has been at her project for > over 10 > years). It turns out that her Wexford group is related to Tommy Carberry > the > horse trainer and his children the current-day jockeys. That brings back > fine > memories because the one thing that my own family was able to contribute > was our oral history attributing an extraordinary ability to relate to > animals. > My father, just for fun, taught wild birds to eat seed out of his hands > (which I > then copied, a great way to while away some time before the arrival of the > Web), > and his father had animals performing tricks, documented by a photo of him > next to a horse sitting like a dog. Thus the oral history that our > Carberrys had > something to do professionally with horses back in Clare seems supported, > and I note that there was a racing venue on a hill near Quin, quite close > to our > family's townland. > > So, thanks for remembering me. It is a meaningful Memorial Day already. > > Sharon C. > > > Liz Haren <lizharen@gmail.com> wrote: CARBERY (Stillorgan, Dublin and late > of Leinster House and founding > member of Glenalbyn Tennis Club) - May 25, 2007 (peacefully), at The > Ashbury Nursing Home, Deans'Grange, Liam, beloved husband of the late > Patricia (Paddy); deeply missed by his loving children David and > Justine, their partners Janice and Donal, his sisters, six > grandchildren, relatives, extended family and a wide circle of > friends. Rest in peace. Funeral today (Monday) after 10 o'clock Mass > in St. Laurence O'Toole Church, Kilmacud to Shanganagh Cemetery. > > "At peace" > > Date: Friday, 25 May 2007 > > http://www.ireland.com/notices/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&advert=588864&publish=28/05/2007 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Jim. I will have to stop in there when I am next in that neighborhood. I look forward to it. I never miss watching the Kentucky Derby here in the States, and so a horse angle to my research will be something to happily anticipate. I am sorry for being a bit late in my response but I had a new step in my latest and most unusual project. I don't think I have mentioned this one yet. Back in April I was doing some Googling and found an old 1997 posting made in an effort to find descendants of a family belonging to a bible found in an attic in Macon, Georgia. Of course I know where Macon is, as I have done research in the Macon library on a potential Jones individual for a Clare family historian on the old Clare mailing list. I found out that that library has some materials that cannot be found in most other libraries, such as the Casey Collection for SW Ireland and, very important for my research, a book listing the deaths reported in a Philadelphia newspaper in the mid-1800s, which I thought was available only in a Philly library. I did more Googling and came up with living descendants of the involved family, which is the Bennis family of Clare. After contacting them, I did more Googling and found someone to contact the homeowner whose attic had contained the bible. I eventually discussed with that homeowner the possible current location of the bible because she had indeed turned it over to someone, after giving up hope on finding any Bennis descendants. She cannot remember the recipient's name but referred me to a historian with whom she discussed the matter at the time. I did more Googling and came up with contact info for that person, who has since retired from state service in the historical conservation department. He happened to be on vacation when I emailed him and then wrote him. However today he emailed me his phone number, so we had a good discussion of what next to do in order to locate the bible. I will do that follow-up tomorrow. He feels that there the bible may well be in an institutional collection where it has been preserved, because it was a special "presentation" type, with the recipient's name applied in gold leaf on the front cover. The gift donor was Mitchell Bennis, the year was 1852, and the recipient was his nephew Mitchell Bennis Clark, who was coming to the Georgia Academy for the Blind to be its first music teacher. A nifty project. I hope it has a good conclusion. Sharon C. Georgia jpmcnamara@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Sharon, When I was in Quin (this past April) I ate at a pub there. The pub's owner had a brother who was a jockey and there were numerous pictures, trophies, racing memorabilia there, an interesting place. I spoke to the owner and we discussed that one jockey who was accused of throwing an race (having the horse back off at end of race). A friendly place. It's not quite a museum, but interested me enough to walk around while I waited for dinner and peruse all the displays. I just checked my planner, and this pub was named "The Monk's Well" regards, Jim McNamara ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon carberry" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Carbery obituary '07 > Liz, > > Thank you for thinking of me and my surname project today. Seeing your > posting was just the best way to start the day, after being up till 2:30 > a.m. cleaning up (taking out lots of usually-hidden code language) in the > McMahon file which I transferred from my old computer to this new one. It > prompts me to > think of how little progress I would have made with my genealogy projects > if we family historians did not stop our own research once in a while and > do something for others. > > I must disclose, however, that I do not try to keep up with current family > news, for two reasons - (1) I am sensitive about appearing too nosy and > (2) if I ever determine the actual county of origin for my own Clare > residents of the 1800s, it will be the crowning achievement in my Carberry > research, for there is no hope of my effort being anything but deeply > historical in nature. I have totally batted out with connecting to > current Carberry cousins, after locating two long-lost sets of them here > in the U.S. and reaching out to more than one person in each set. Those > are closed circles, so I now shy away from anything to do with the living. > > However, this month brought the news that a member of the Carberry > YahooGroup which I organized has found a long-lost cousin in France who is > as avid a family historian as she is (she has been at her project for > over 10 > years). It turns out that her Wexford group is related to Tommy Carberry > the > horse trainer and his children the current-day jockeys. That brings back > fine > memories because the one thing that my own family was able to contribute > was our oral history attributing an extraordinary ability to relate to > animals. > My father, just for fun, taught wild birds to eat seed out of his hands > (which I > then copied, a great way to while away some time before the arrival of the > Web), > and his father had animals performing tricks, documented by a photo of him > next to a horse sitting like a dog. Thus the oral history that our > Carberrys had > something to do professionally with horses back in Clare seems supported, > and I note that there was a racing venue on a hill near Quin, quite close > to our > family's townland. > > So, thanks for remembering me. It is a meaningful Memorial Day already. > > Sharon C. > > > Liz Haren wrote: CARBERY (Stillorgan, Dublin and late > of Leinster House and founding > member of Glenalbyn Tennis Club) - May 25, 2007 (peacefully), at The > Ashbury Nursing Home, Deans'Grange, Liam, beloved husband of the late > Patricia (Paddy); deeply missed by his loving children David and > Justine, their partners Janice and Donal, his sisters, six > grandchildren, relatives, extended family and a wide circle of > friends. Rest in peace. Funeral today (Monday) after 10 o'clock Mass > in St. Laurence O'Toole Church, Kilmacud to Shanganagh Cemetery. > > "At peace" > > Date: Friday, 25 May 2007 > > http://www.ireland.com/notices/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&advert=588864&publish=28/05/2007 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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Most welcome Sharon, Quin is a favorite Clare place for me, even though I have only been there twice. I did take a picture of the castle with two horses in the foreground. They seemed to be cautiously guarding the castle from tourists like me. I wish they had come a bit closer, but still is a good defiant look in their eyes and posture. I also learned of a castle in my mac townland. In an ordnance survey letter in 1839, John O'Donovan has this to say: "I find no record of the existence of a castle in this Parish and still it would appear from the name of a hill in the townland of Lecarrow Lower, [Laccaroe], situated about three quarters of a mile to the east of the village of Feakle, that there was one there at some period. This hill is called Cnoc a Chaisleain, and tradition says that there was a castle to be seen on it in the memory of old men not long dead, but no trace remains at present. The name of the hill should appear on the Ordnance Map." I found out my Cleary's Coogypark Macs are related to my McNamara's Laccaroe Macs. I found a few of their wills in the National Archives and a few more relationships are stated. . Your bible project sounds like a winner, good luck with that. Best regards, Jim McNamara ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon carberry" <smc85p@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Carbery obituary '07,and an new project for me > Thanks, Jim. I will have to stop in there when I am next in that > neighborhood. > I look forward to it. I never miss watching the Kentucky Derby here in > the > States, and so a horse angle to my research will be something to happily > anticipate. > > I am sorry for being a bit late in my response but I had a new step in my > latest and most unusual project. I don't think I have mentioned this one > yet. Back in April I was doing some Googling and found an old 1997 > posting > made in an effort to find descendants of a family belonging to a bible > found in > an attic in Macon, Georgia. Of course I know where Macon is, as I have > done research in the Macon library on a potential Jones individual for a > Clare > family historian on the old Clare mailing list. I found out that that > library has > some materials that cannot be found in most other libraries, such as the > Casey Collection for SW Ireland and, very important for my research, a > book > listing the deaths reported in a Philadelphia newspaper in the mid-1800s, > which I > thought was available only in a Philly library. > > I did more Googling and came up with living descendants of the involved > family, > which is the Bennis family of Clare. After contacting them, I did more > Googling > and found someone to contact the homeowner whose attic had contained > the bible. I eventually discussed with that homeowner the possible > current > location of the bible because she had indeed turned it over to someone, > after > giving up hope on finding any Bennis descendants. She cannot remember > the recipient's name but referred me to a historian with whom she > discussed > the matter at the time. I did more Googling and came up with contact info > for that person, who has since retired from state service in the > historical > conservation department. He happened to be on vacation when I emailed > him and then wrote him. However today he emailed me his phone number, > so we had a good discussion of what next to do in order to locate the > bible. > I will do that follow-up tomorrow. He feels that there the bible may well > be > in an institutional collection where it has been preserved, because it was > a special "presentation" type, with the recipient's name applied in gold > leaf > on the front cover. The gift donor was Mitchell Bennis, the year was > 1852, > and the recipient was his nephew Mitchell Bennis Clark, who was coming > to the Georgia Academy for the Blind to be its first music teacher. > > A nifty project. I hope it has a good conclusion. > > Sharon C. > Georgia > > jpmcnamara@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Sharon, > > When I was in Quin (this past April) I ate at a pub there. The pub's > owner > had a brother who was a jockey and there were numerous pictures, trophies, > racing memorabilia there, an interesting place. I spoke to the owner and > we > discussed that one jockey who was accused of throwing an race (having the > horse back off at end of race). A friendly place. It's not quite a > museum, > but interested me enough to walk around while I waited for dinner and > peruse > all the displays. > > I just checked my planner, and this pub was named "The Monk's Well" > > regards, > > Jim McNamara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sharon carberry" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:23 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Carbery obituary '07 > > >> Liz, >> >> Thank you for thinking of me and my surname project today. Seeing your >> posting was just the best way to start the day, after being up till 2:30 >> a.m. cleaning up (taking out lots of usually-hidden code language) in the >> McMahon file which I transferred from my old computer to this new one. >> It >> prompts me to >> think of how little progress I would have made with my genealogy projects >> if we family historians did not stop our own research once in a while and >> do something for others. >> >> I must disclose, however, that I do not try to keep up with current >> family >> news, for two reasons - (1) I am sensitive about appearing too nosy and >> (2) if I ever determine the actual county of origin for my own Clare >> residents of the 1800s, it will be the crowning achievement in my >> Carberry >> research, for there is no hope of my effort being anything but deeply >> historical in nature. I have totally batted out with connecting to >> current Carberry cousins, after locating two long-lost sets of them here >> in the U.S. and reaching out to more than one person in each set. Those >> are closed circles, so I now shy away from anything to do with the >> living. >> >> However, this month brought the news that a member of the Carberry >> YahooGroup which I organized has found a long-lost cousin in France who >> is >> as avid a family historian as she is (she has been at her project for >> over 10 >> years). It turns out that her Wexford group is related to Tommy Carberry >> the >> horse trainer and his children the current-day jockeys. That brings back >> fine >> memories because the one thing that my own family was able to contribute >> was our oral history attributing an extraordinary ability to relate to >> animals. >> My father, just for fun, taught wild birds to eat seed out of his hands >> (which I >> then copied, a great way to while away some time before the arrival of >> the >> Web), >> and his father had animals performing tricks, documented by a photo of >> him >> next to a horse sitting like a dog. Thus the oral history that our >> Carberrys had >> something to do professionally with horses back in Clare seems supported, >> and I note that there was a racing venue on a hill near Quin, quite close >> to our >> family's townland. >> >> So, thanks for remembering me. It is a meaningful Memorial Day already. >> >> Sharon C. >> >> >> Liz Haren > wrote: CARBERY (Stillorgan, Dublin and late >> of Leinster House and founding >> member of Glenalbyn Tennis Club) - May 25, 2007 (peacefully), at The >> Ashbury Nursing Home, Deans'Grange, Liam, beloved husband of the late >> Patricia (Paddy); deeply missed by his loving children David and >> Justine, their partners Janice and Donal, his sisters, six >> grandchildren, relatives, extended family and a wide circle of >> friends. Rest in peace. Funeral today (Monday) after 10 o'clock Mass >> in St. Laurence O'Toole Church, Kilmacud to Shanganagh Cemetery. >> >> "At peace" >> >> Date: Friday, 25 May 2007 >> >> http://www.ireland.com/notices/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&advert=588864&publish=28/05/2007 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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