Paddy, Page 203 & 204 0f Houses of Clare give the details of Moyriesk, House Quin. Associate families: Mcnamara, Sampson, O'Callaghan, Fitzgerald, Vesey-Fitzgerald, Foster-Vesey-Fitzgerald, O'Brien, Crowe. Moyriesk House located in Moyriesk (Doora). Located N.of Ennis road, 3Km NNW of Quin. If you want complete details come back to me. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] 1824 Freeholders Register, C surnames,Bunratty barony > > You must have an amazing associative memory, Sharon, to connect the Thomas > Verlin of Kilkishen to my family. > > In the baptismal records of our family in 2Q of the 19th century various > Verlins pop up as sponsors* but I have never definitively located that > family. It was my assumption that because several different Verlins are > listed as sponsors it would most likely be a family living in the vicinity > of mine, i.e. near the townland of Shanballysallagh in the parish of > Kilkeedy. In the GV there is a Judith Verling in Rinecaha and there is a > John Verling in Derrylumman, both places being within walking distance of > Shanballysallagh. > > Regarding the Vesey-Fitzgerald connection, I have come to the tentative > conclusion that my GGF's landlord might have been William, Lord Fitzgerald > and Vesci, born 1783, who lived in Lahardan House in the parish of > Inchicronan very near my GGF's home. Lahardan House was burned down a few > years prior to 1820 and the family then went to live in Moyriesk House > (which I have not yet located, but the name 'riesk', which means a marshy > area covered with rushes, tantalisingly suggests that it may have been in > the plain of the Moyrhee river, i.e. also near my GGF's home which abuts > directly on the riesk of that river). > > But now your Kilkishen connection is giving me food for thought. > > Thanks for making this association. > > Paddy > > > * Denis Howard was married to Mary Ryan (the Ryan's also figured among the > sponsors of the children to Michael Casey and Honor Howard). This couple > resided at Shanballysallagh, where they were recorded having the following > family:- > > BRIDGET baptised 1838, sponsors John Verlin & Honora Keating > > KATE baptised 1841, sponsors Michael & Anne Ryan > > HONOR baptised 1842, sponsors Thomas Verlin & Bridget Sullivan > > PATRICK baptised 1844, sponsors John Ryan & Jane Verlin > >>From the above you will note that Honor was born in 1842. Her brother > Patrick born 1844, inherited the farm from his father Denis, this Patrick > married Catherine McCaul, and the Tubber Parish Register records the > following children to the couple:- > > MARY baptised 3-6-1871, sponsors John & Nora Quilivan > > DENIS baptised 19-5-1872, sponsors David Verlin & Susan Ryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon > Carberry > Sent: 27 April 2007 21:13 > To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] 1824 Freeholders Register, C > surnames,Bunratty barony > > > > Well, not so fast on the discounting, because, having now read through > your > website > listed on the Clare Past forum, you mention Thomas Verlin in your > northern > Clare/southern > Galway area. He is likely (same time period) the same Thomas Verlin who > appears in the > Kilkishen area in the GV. Just as I am taking more and more note of the > names appearing > in Kilrush east to Newmarket and finding the Studderts as landlords in all > of those areas, I know > that you are looking at instances of Vesey-Fitzgerald. So, consider this: > > Registry of Deeds, Henrietta St, Dublin > Barony of Bunratty > #882-428 1828-1832 time period > Backfield and Classduff [Gortadroma and Clashduff, which are basically > Kilkishen] > Lord Devesci by deed of trust > > That is from the notes I made. > > Sharon C. > > > > On 4/27/07, Patrick Casey <pcasey@compuserve.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks very much for this, Sharon. One of our bits of family lore about >> the >> origins of the Tubber Caseys says that they came from Lisduff but I've >> tended to discount that because Lisduff is so far away. There is a Casey >> in >> your list, albeit a Stephen Casey, which is not one of our family >> forenames. >> >> I'm looking forward to other listers contributing transcriptions to the >> Clare Library site. The process could unearth a lot of interesting >> material, >> some of which may have been languishing in drawers for lack of knowledge >> as >> to how to put it online. >> >> Paddy >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Larry. Declan just flagged it to me too. I grovel in shame at not having checked this myself. I was locked in the groundless/mindless assumption that the name Moyriesk House was derived from a landscape feature and it didn't occur to me that it could be a townland and hence easily locatable with the Library search facilities that we use daily. I wanted to get my brain serviced this month but it seems that they no longer have the replacement parts for my early model. I must check out the flea markets. Paddy -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 28 April 2007 11:42 To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] 1824 Freeholders Register, C surnames,Bunratty barony Paddy, Page 203 & 204 0f Houses of Clare give the details of Moyriesk, House Quin. Associate families: Mcnamara, Sampson, O'Callaghan, Fitzgerald, Vesey-Fitzgerald, Foster-Vesey-Fitzgerald, O'Brien, Crowe. Moyriesk House located in Moyriesk (Doora). Located N.of Ennis road, 3Km NNW of Quin. If you want complete details come back to me. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] 1824 Freeholders Register, C surnames,Bunratty barony > > You must have an amazing associative memory, Sharon, to connect the Thomas > Verlin of Kilkishen to my family. > > In the baptismal records of our family in 2Q of the 19th century various > Verlins pop up as sponsors* but I have never definitively located that > family. It was my assumption that because several different Verlins are > listed as sponsors it would most likely be a family living in the vicinity > of mine, i.e. near the townland of Shanballysallagh in the parish of > Kilkeedy. In the GV there is a Judith Verling in Rinecaha and there is a > John Verling in Derrylumman, both places being within walking distance of > Shanballysallagh. > > Regarding the Vesey-Fitzgerald connection, I have come to the tentative > conclusion that my GGF's landlord might have been William, Lord Fitzgerald > and Vesci, born 1783, who lived in Lahardan House in the parish of > Inchicronan very near my GGF's home. Lahardan House was burned down a few > years prior to 1820 and the family then went to live in Moyriesk House > (which I have not yet located, but the name 'riesk', which means a marshy > area covered with rushes, tantalisingly suggests that it may have been in > the plain of the Moyrhee river, i.e. also near my GGF's home which abuts > directly on the riesk of that river). > > But now your Kilkishen connection is giving me food for thought. > > Thanks for making this association. > > Paddy > > > * Denis Howard was married to Mary Ryan (the Ryan's also figured among the > sponsors of the children to Michael Casey and Honor Howard). This couple > resided at Shanballysallagh, where they were recorded having the following > family:- > > BRIDGET baptised 1838, sponsors John Verlin & Honora Keating > > KATE baptised 1841, sponsors Michael & Anne Ryan > > HONOR baptised 1842, sponsors Thomas Verlin & Bridget Sullivan > > PATRICK baptised 1844, sponsors John Ryan & Jane Verlin > >>From the above you will note that Honor was born in 1842. Her brother > Patrick born 1844, inherited the farm from his father Denis, this Patrick > married Catherine McCaul, and the Tubber Parish Register records the > following children to the couple:- > > MARY baptised 3-6-1871, sponsors John & Nora Quilivan > > DENIS baptised 19-5-1872, sponsors David Verlin & Susan Ryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon > Carberry > Sent: 27 April 2007 21:13 > To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] 1824 Freeholders Register, C > surnames,Bunratty barony > > > > Well, not so fast on the discounting, because, having now read through > your > website > listed on the Clare Past forum, you mention Thomas Verlin in your > northern > Clare/southern > Galway area. He is likely (same time period) the same Thomas Verlin who > appears in the > Kilkishen area in the GV. Just as I am taking more and more note of the > names appearing > in Kilrush east to Newmarket and finding the Studderts as landlords in all > of those areas, I know > that you are looking at instances of Vesey-Fitzgerald. So, consider this: > > Registry of Deeds, Henrietta St, Dublin > Barony of Bunratty > #882-428 1828-1832 time period > Backfield and Classduff [Gortadroma and Clashduff, which are basically > Kilkishen] > Lord Devesci by deed of trust > > That is from the notes I made. > > Sharon C. > > > > On 4/27/07, Patrick Casey <pcasey@compuserve.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks very much for this, Sharon. One of our bits of family lore about >> the >> origins of the Tubber Caseys says that they came from Lisduff but I've >> tended to discount that because Lisduff is so far away. There is a Casey >> in >> your list, albeit a Stephen Casey, which is not one of our family >> forenames. >> >> I'm looking forward to other listers contributing transcriptions to the >> Clare Library site. The process could unearth a lot of interesting >> material, >> some of which may have been languishing in drawers for lack of knowledge >> as >> to how to put it online. >> >> Paddy >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message