When in County Clare a few years ago for vacation and research. We went to The Heritage Center at Corofin to see if they might have suggestions for locating my husband's grandfather's, James Hassett, actual date and place of birth. We knew that he was born about 1860 in Clare and was one of several children. James' father, Daniel, cannot be accounted for after the birth of a child in 1863. Daniel's wife (widow?) Bridget Culliney married again in 1864 and they had a child born in 1877. We did not know of others. That step child was personally known to my mother-in-law, after his immigration to the U.S. With the history above, we were discouraged by the Center, because there was such a large span between 1st and last children and it was suggested that we had mixed familes. We had the Ellis Island record that said Barefield for the step-child and we continued on our journey. The delightful canon at Barefield opened the books and we found the second marriage and an additional 6 step-children. My husband's family had no info that there were any other children in that 2nd marriage family and they only knew of one brother from the first marriage. Back in Kilrush we connected with my husband's Crotty descendents for the first time. She was the grandmother who married the James Hassett without a birthdate or birthplace. Bernice Seeger Hassett ----- Original Message ----- From: <augeus@tiscali.co.uk> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > Hi Michael > > The same has happened in my family. For instance my Great-Grandfather was > born in 1867, my grt grt grandparents fifth child. Their first child was > born in 1860 and their last child was born in 1881. > > Unfortunately the first child dies at the age of 18 in 1878, (the last > child > being named after him three years later). However had he lived, he could > well have been having children by the early 1880s. > > The tragedy in all this is that of the 10 children born over the twenty > years, only 3 or 4 survived to adulthood. > > > Regards > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Shergold > Sent: 21 April 2007 20:27 > To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins > younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is > anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of > generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in > Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and > the > youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to 20 > years) than them. > Michael > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 4/21/2007 > 11:56 AM > >

Thanks Bernice, Jayne, Bill and Allana and the others who replied to this post.. It seems I am not alone in discovering this sort of situation. In ths future, I guess, it will become much more common with so many second and even third marriages creating even greater spans between the first and last children with a particular surname. Thanks to all Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernice" <bshassett@fuse.net> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > When in County Clare a few years ago for vacation and research. We went > to > The Heritage Center at Corofin to see if they might have suggestions for > locating my husband's grandfather's, James Hassett, actual date and place > of > birth. > We knew that he was born about 1860 in Clare and was one of several > children. James' father, Daniel, cannot be accounted for after the birth > of > a child in 1863. Daniel's wife (widow?) Bridget Culliney married again in > 1864 and they had a child born in 1877. We did not know of others. That > step > child was personally known to my mother-in-law, after his immigration to > the > U.S. > With the history above, we were discouraged by the Center, because there > was > such a large span between 1st and last children and it was suggested that > we > had mixed familes. We had the Ellis Island record that said Barefield > for > the step-child and we continued on our journey. > The delightful canon at Barefield opened the books and we found the > second > marriage and an additional 6 step-children. My husband's family had no > info > that there were any other children in that 2nd marriage family and they > only > knew of one brother from the first marriage. > Back in Kilrush we connected with my husband's Crotty descendents for the > first time. She was the grandmother who married the James Hassett > without a > birthdate or birthplace. > Bernice Seeger Hassett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <augeus@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > >> Hi Michael >> >> The same has happened in my family. For instance my Great-Grandfather >> was >> born in 1867, my grt grt grandparents fifth child. Their first child was >> born in 1860 and their last child was born in 1881. >> >> Unfortunately the first child dies at the age of 18 in 1878, (the last >> child >> being named after him three years later). However had he lived, he could >> well have been having children by the early 1880s. >> >> The tragedy in all this is that of the 10 children born over the twenty >> years, only 3 or 4 survived to adulthood. >> >> >> Regards >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael >> Shergold >> Sent: 21 April 2007 20:27 >> To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. >> >> I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins >> younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is >> anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of >> generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in >> Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and >> the >> youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to >> 20 >> years) than them. >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 4/21/2007 >> 11:56 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >