Here is an ambitious suggestion: someone could contact Rosemary ffolliott (or her estate's representative, if she is deceased) to gain permission to extract the Clare newspaper items in her series which is on microform, held in so few places (Dublin/Genealogical Office, Ennis/Clare Library, Chicago/Newberry Library are the ones I know of): Index to biographical notices in newspapers of Limerick, Ennis, Clonmel and Waterford, 1758-1821 I should note that this series itself is an extraction, as Dennis Ahearn (TIARA) has shown me the difference between the original articles and the details preserved in the ffolliott series. However, all the good details are extracted. I have these for two of my surnames (it's arranged by surname, not by county), and I can attest that, while many articles concern the landed gentry, there are also many instances of the "common folk" getting in trouble or doing newsworthy things. While I am more in need of details for the 1830s/1840s than I am yet for the first two decades of the 1800s, if permission could be secured, then the material could be obtained from the Clare Library, as I assume they would love to have the chance to put this on their website. Also, the author may be more inclined to cooperate when an Irish institution is involved. Sharon Carberry USA

Asking a personal favor -- hope no one minds. Sometime in the last year I found a site with Clare directory listings and now don't know how to find it again. Some years ago we were able to locate a cousin of my husband's living in Lissycasey, met him in Ennis about 8 years ago, and have exchanged notes with him over the years. Now he's not answering our mail and we're concerned. I believe I saw a directory listing for him: Tom/Tommy/Thomas Kennedy in Lissycasey. Would someone in Ireland be kind enough to send me either the number or tell me how to access the directory. Thanks for any help, Ruth

Hi Vanessa, >From your website: "Jimmy Kierse married Winifred Brady - Killeen, Corofin, Co. Clare Oliver Kierse - Kilfenora Alfie Kierse Sean Kierse - Killaloe Paddy Kierse Vera Kierse Eileen Kierse Hurley Dymphna Kierse Mona Kierse Clare Kierse Mary Kierse " Just wanted to add that Oliver KIERSE (Kilnaboy Commons) died May 2004. Wife's name Mary and children were Michelle, Dorothy, Susan, Mary, Claire, Oliver, Hailey and Joseph. I met Oliver when I first moved here and unfortunately he died suddenly shorty after. His brother Alfie KIERSE (Kileen, Corofin) died November 2005. Paddy Casey suggested you contact Sean KIERSE he is their brother. I'm sure he'll have more information. irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Anyone on this list have any connections or knowledge of the > Kierce/Kierse/Kearse/Kearce families of County Clare? > > Here is my website > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/ > > Here are my surname projects > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kierce.htm > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kearse.htm > > Thanks! > > Vanessa Kierce Burzynski > Texas > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

I saw your posting on information including the name of O'Halloran. I have a great-great grandfather, Patrick O'Halloran, arrived in Alden, Illinois USA around 1843, came from County Clare Ireland. Patrick married Johannah MCGrath around 1845 in Illinois, had several children. So far I have had no luck finding additional information on Patrick. Just curious as to whether or not there is a connection to your O'Halloran lineage. Thanks! Lori -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Brennan <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> >Sent: Mar 30, 2007 11:56 AM >To: Irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Clare Roots Society Talk - O'Hallorans > >Dr. Paddy Waldron, > >Gave his talk last night to the Clare Roots Society. > >A Copy of his presentation is available at: > >http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~pwaldron/ClareRoots > >A video copy is currently being prepared. > >This site is well worth a visit as it contains general notes also on Genealogy research incl research on O' Hallorans, Kit / Kett,Waldrons, Nolans, Carroll, and the growth patters associated with Sixmilebridge. > >Regards, > >Larry.. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Larry, What a tremendous amount of research! Interesting to follow the path. Makes me think my 5 days in Ennis in May won't be near enough to find my kin when all I have are a few names, one birthdate & no definite places other than Co. Clare & where I could find Patrick FITZPATRICKS in Griffith's lists. Also sure makes me wish you were related to FITZPATRICKs or McNAMARAs. So, I will plan on enjoying the scenery, the music & whatever else comes my way! Jo Banks ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Fiona, don't worry about this email, you haven't been unsubscribed. I changed you to the digest version as you requested. Liz On 3/30/07, Fíona de Buitléir <fionadeb@eircom.net> wrote: > unsubscribe > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On the Clare County Library website home page under Special Services (the place you go for the Browsealoud facility) you will find a link with the eye-catching name Library Forum A partnership of Clare County Library and Pictou-Antigonish Regional Library. If you click on that link you will see that the Clare Library, in partnership with the Pictou-Antigonish Regional Library in Nova Scotia, has been working on a Library Forum with a section called Clare Past which covers Genealogy, Archaeology, History, Heritage & Folklore. The forum has not yet been publically announced because the plumbers and carpenters and electricians and decorators are still in there tightening screws, making adjustments and applying coats of paint but I have been assured that family historians who want to enrol are at liberty to do so. It would be preferred if people would sign in under real names or real-sounding names rather than nicknames like Gonzo or TrendyMan but that's up to you it seems. I've joined up and no-one has debited my credit card so it seems to be free. So go over there, sign in at the door, and take a walk through the colonnades of the Library forum. Paddy

Vanessa, There is a well-known Clare historian by the name of Seán Kierse. I wonder if he knows anything about these families. See http://www.killaloe.ie/history/author.php Paddy -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vanessa Burzynski Sent: 30 March 2007 19:57 To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Kierce/Kierse/Kearse Surname Anyone on this list have any connections or knowledge of the Kierce/Kierse/Kearse/Kearce families of County Clare? Here is my website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/ Here are my surname projects http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kierce.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kearse.htm Thanks! Vanessa Kierce Burzynski Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dr. Paddy Waldron, Gave his talk last night to the Clare Roots Society. A Copy of his presentation is available at: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~pwaldron/ClareRoots A video copy is currently being prepared. This site is well worth a visit as it contains general notes also on Genealogy research incl research on O' Hallorans, Kit / Kett,Waldrons, Nolans, Carroll, and the growth patters associated with Sixmilebridge. Regards, Larry..

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Anyone on this list have any connections or knowledge of the Kierce/Kierse/Kearse/Kearce families of County Clare? Here is my website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/ Here are my surname projects http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kierce.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burzynsk/kearse.htm Thanks! Vanessa Kierce Burzynski Texas

> > Does the IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS mailing list have a digest mode and, if it does, > how do I subscribe to it? I am on the digest form. Send an email to: Irl-Clare-Projects-D-request@rootsweb.com Put subscribe in subject and body and send. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Josie, I've got Mary McNAMARA with Pierse CREAGH as parents to Fitzperse CREAGH born 1653, Dangan, Co Clare. Fitzperse buried Ennis Abbey. I know it's outside your dates but could be from the same line. I was looking for Creagh on familysearch I think & found a long line, took me 2hrs to sort them out and put on FTM. She is right at the end & I couldn.t find parents or siblings but will try later on surnamenavigator. You might want to go to Ennis Abbey eh. One of my ggggmas was married to Pierse John CREAGH for 7yrs in Sydney before he died. No kids that I can find. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Josiebanks@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi list & Margaret, > Noting the McNAMARAs in your list, I thought it was worth a shot to > ask > if you have a set of parents: Mary McNAMARA and Patrick FITZPARICK with > a > daughter, Elizabeth, "Eliza" b. Nov. 11, 1829. Co. Clare. > > > Also, I will be in Ennis, Co. Clare, the end of May. Any > suggestions on > where I might do a little research for this family? I have compared > the > surname location on Griffiths list & find Patrick FITZPATRICKs & > McNAMARAS in 15 > locations. Thank you in advance, Jo Banks > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fellow Researchers, I was wondering if there is any discussion or plan to have the Birth, Marriage and Death Registration Index of Ireland transcribed so it is available on a web site. Perhaps something similar to FreeBMD for England. This seems to be a resource that is not readily available, especially to those who live on the other side of the world. Just a thought. Regards Jan Vernon Sydney, Australia

The Registrar's Office in Dublin is already digitising the BMD records. I don't know whether there are plans to put them on line (at a price) but I'm not sure whether there would be added value in digitising the records a second time apart from ensuring that they become accessible without charge. Or have I misunderstood something here ? Paddy -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DLCulhane@cs.com Sent: 29 March 2007 15:30 To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Birth, Marriage & Death Index of Ireland The civil indexes are kept by the GRO, not the Church, and have been filmed by the LDS. I think it would be a great volunteer project because the indexes are typeset so there's no difficult reading to guess at. In fact, I wonder if the entries could be scanned by an OCR system and then combined into larger chunks of time, say 5 or 10 years. Eventually, of course, the goal would be to have the indexes span the period from 1864 through, say, 1964, but 5- or 10-year chunks would be a great start, much easier than looking at 3 months at a time. Diane </HTML> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm trying to get that page started Pat, in the meantime I'll do it for you. Liz On 3/29/07, PATCON123@aol.com <PATCON123@aol.com> wrote: > Does the IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS mailing list have a digest mode and, if it does, > how do I subscribe to it? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sounds like a great suggestion Jan, I worked on the Clare Library project and I also transcribe for FreeBMD. Best wishes, Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Haren" <lizharen@gmail.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Birth, Marriage & Death Index of Ireland > Wow, Jan, get out of my head. I was only thinking that this morning. > I must say the thought of that is daunting but...not outside the realm > of possiblity. (first time I ever had an Australian in my head, I have > to say that!). > > I've been working at my "real job" this week but will catch up this > weekend on the list. There have been many good posts this week that > I'm looking forward to reading. > > Liz > > On 3/29/07, Jan Vernon <janvernon@optushome.com.au> wrote: >> Hi Fellow Researchers, >> >> I was wondering if there is any discussion or plan to have the Birth, >> Marriage and Death Registration Index of Ireland transcribed so it is >> available on a web site. Perhaps something similar to FreeBMD for >> England. >> >> This seems to be a resource that is not readily available, especially to >> those who live on the other side of the world. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Regards >> Jan Vernon >> Sydney, Australia >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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It was my understanding that LDS was digitizing their records and putting it on their website. The last time I was at our local FHC they said the project was completed and LDS was just needing the permission from all the areas involved to put THEIR records on LDS site. I dont know if the information that I had received was correct or not. I was also told that LDS was not going to charge for access to their site either. I can not imagine that the original holders of the BMD records would be quite that willing to hand over to LDS the permission to post. Many of these areas use it as a means of making money and to promote tourism. I had also heard there was a question abt. legal rights to this information and the posting it for general public. Currently "Privacy Issues" are not well defined. Debbie

My apologies for the double posting just now, and really bad typing recently. I need to get a new computer, which will be soon I think. I have totally screwed up the Outloook program in my current one. My workaround for that is sending out messages before thorough proofreading. I will try harder in the interim. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Birth, Marriage & Death Index of Ireland > Another consideration with these indexes is the fact that, with you still > get a name-only listing so you still need to deal with which of > three-five-or more Patrick Hogans in the 1868 deaths for Clare might be the > right one. Also, transcription errors are common, and very likely someone > is going to order the wrong record because even just one number is off in > the entry info as transcribed. > > I did pay the fee at the Registrar's Office in Dublin and copied out > all the death index listings for my various surnames. I have yet to order > records for any of them. It has not been needed for my research. > > Sharon C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> > To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Birth, Marriage & Death Index of Ireland > > > > > > The Registrar's Office in Dublin is already digitising the BMD records. I > > don't know whether there are plans to put them on line (at a price) but > I'm > > not sure whether there would be added value in digitising the records a > > second time apart from ensuring that they become accessible without > charge. > > > > Or have I misunderstood something here ? > > > > Paddy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > DLCulhane@cs.com > > Sent: 29 March 2007 15:30 > > To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Birth, Marriage & Death Index of Ireland > > > > > > > > The civil indexes are kept by the GRO, not the Church, and have been > filmed > > by the LDS. I think it would be a great volunteer project because the > > indexes > > are typeset so there's no difficult reading to guess at. In fact, I wonder > > if > > the entries could be scanned by an OCR system and then combined into > larger > > chunks of time, say 5 or 10 years. Eventually, of course, the goal would > be > > to > > have the indexes span the period from 1864 through, say, 1964, but 5- or > > 10-year > > chunks would be a great start, much easier than looking at 3 months at a > > time. > > > > Diane </HTML> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message