I highly recommend East Clare Golf Village catering apartments in Bodyke. I have just stayed there. Standards very high and units are less than a year old. You will find them on the web. Ger Teefy is the manager. Hope this helps. Gerry 'You can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think.' Gerry Moloney (Lecturer) Computing Dept., ITCarlow, Ireland. Office: (059)9170455 Mobile: (087)9184000 Gerry.Moloney@itcarlow.ie ________________________________ From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of JDBEsq@aol.com Sent: Sun 22/04/2007 20:34 To: IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] County Clare Visit in August My! My! What great timing Kay--My wife and I are going to Dublin/Clare/Bodyke in October/November thanks to the Aer Lingus sale. It would really be great if after you return home if you could post some trip suggestions from hotels, B&B, pubs, research--anything that would be useful for a fellow traveler and researcher. Thanks in advance Doug Satellite Beach Fl Looking for O'Brien's(I know: you have more than enough to go around<grin>) from Knockbrack in 1840s. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com <http://www.aol.com/> . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

O.K., Diane, you asked. My grandfather was the in the first generation of U.S.-born, of adult age when his Clare-born grandmother died (his own father was born in P.Q. as the first North American-born but with an older sister born in Ireland). This is all that was left for the generation of us doing family research in the 1990s: a fern plant bought by the Clare-born immigrant. No one knew anything nor preserved anything for us, and the fern was not talking. However, the cousins in Pennsylvania with the fern plant knew just one detail from the oral "history" left them; it was right; it led to records disclosing the actual Clare parish: our great-grandfather was born in Montreal. It was up to me to travel up there to get all the rest, when I was living in Washington State at the time, a mere 3100 miles away. I managed to find all relevant records on the microfilm and index cards, just before the facility staff told me that my (well-behaved) children could no longer wait in the hall for me. This is an tale of almost-misses which nonetheless turned out well, but with very little oral history to help. BTW the Penn. cousins knew nothing of our gggmother's younger Clare-born sister who lived with her in a Philadelphia old-age home. I am still searching for their younger brother, who could have either died after the Dec 1849 eviction from their Clare home or emigrated to Canada, U.S., or Australia. I am fairly sure he did not stay in Clare (unless he was adopted). No one in the U.S. said anything about him or the eviction, which seem like major events that would be passed along. Sharon Carberry USA, with a new email address On 4/22/07, Diane Apel <dianeapel@comcast.net> wrote: > > Alanna, I found your comment about people who would not talk about family > history interesting as this has > also been my experience and I'm wondering if it was just an "Irish" thing, > a > generational problem, personalities, or what? > > When my oldest uncle was 87 I asked him some family history and he said at > age 10 my grandmother told him not to ask any more personal questions > about > her family, so he could not answer anything I asked him and she was long > dead. My research did find quite a few skeltons in her closet, so perhaps > that was the problem. > > I spoke last week to an 80-something surviving family member I recently > located in Quebec and he said he couldn't tell me much because his father > never would talk about his family when he asked questions (there were 16 > children in it and other branches have the same problem). > > This has pretty much been my experience with anyone who would have been > born > before 1920. Was everyone mad at each other as appears to be the problem > in > with my ancestors, or was it because families just didn't keep in touch > because it was much more difficult than it is today? I'd be interested to > know what other researchers have encountered. > > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alanna Scanlon" <alannal@prodigy.net> > To: "Irl-Clare-Proj" <IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > My mother's father was married twice. My mother was at the end of the > > second family. Her oldest 1/2 brother was 30 years older than my > mother. > > He had a daughter who was born within days of my mother. When they were > > in school together, they just said that they were cousins. > > > > I am the youngest of both sides of my family and everyone has died off. > > Everyone who knew anything either would not talk or was dead by the time > I > > could ask questions. I remember starting to ask questions when I was 12 > > and even then it was too late. > > > > Alanna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've got cousins my age who're one generation ahead of me. Their gma was mum's gma's youngest sister. Aunty Gert b 1885, died 1977, was the last of the sibling group. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Michael Shergold <michaelshergold@btconnect.com> wrote: > > I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins > younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is > > anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of > generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in > Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and > the > youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to > 20 > years) than them. > Michael > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think it's an "immigrant" thing--my German ancestors didn't talk much about it either . . . Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Brooks" <brooksruths@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Questions unanswered > Hi Diane, > > When we used to visit my husband's aunts, I would question them about > their > parents who came over from Ireland (my interest in genealogy began with > notes scribbled on whatever bits of paper I happened to have with me at > the > time). When I would ask them what they had been told about life in > Ireland, > reasons for leaving, trip over, etc., they would always say the same thing > "they didn't want to talk about it" so maybe it is an "Irish" thing. > > Ruth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> > To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Questions unanswered > > >> Alanna, I found your comment about people who would not talk about family >> history interesting as this has >> also been my experience and I'm wondering if it was just an "Irish" >> thing, >> a >> generational problem, personalities, or what? >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Diane, When we used to visit my husband's aunts, I would question them about their parents who came over from Ireland (my interest in genealogy began with notes scribbled on whatever bits of paper I happened to have with me at the time). When I would ask them what they had been told about life in Ireland, reasons for leaving, trip over, etc., they would always say the same thing "they didn't want to talk about it" so maybe it is an "Irish" thing. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Questions unanswered > Alanna, I found your comment about people who would not talk about family > history interesting as this has > also been my experience and I'm wondering if it was just an "Irish" thing, > a > generational problem, personalities, or what? >

When in County Clare a few years ago for vacation and research. We went to The Heritage Center at Corofin to see if they might have suggestions for locating my husband's grandfather's, James Hassett, actual date and place of birth. We knew that he was born about 1860 in Clare and was one of several children. James' father, Daniel, cannot be accounted for after the birth of a child in 1863. Daniel's wife (widow?) Bridget Culliney married again in 1864 and they had a child born in 1877. We did not know of others. That step child was personally known to my mother-in-law, after his immigration to the U.S. With the history above, we were discouraged by the Center, because there was such a large span between 1st and last children and it was suggested that we had mixed familes. We had the Ellis Island record that said Barefield for the step-child and we continued on our journey. The delightful canon at Barefield opened the books and we found the second marriage and an additional 6 step-children. My husband's family had no info that there were any other children in that 2nd marriage family and they only knew of one brother from the first marriage. Back in Kilrush we connected with my husband's Crotty descendents for the first time. She was the grandmother who married the James Hassett without a birthdate or birthplace. Bernice Seeger Hassett ----- Original Message ----- From: <augeus@tiscali.co.uk> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > Hi Michael > > The same has happened in my family. For instance my Great-Grandfather was > born in 1867, my grt grt grandparents fifth child. Their first child was > born in 1860 and their last child was born in 1881. > > Unfortunately the first child dies at the age of 18 in 1878, (the last > child > being named after him three years later). However had he lived, he could > well have been having children by the early 1880s. > > The tragedy in all this is that of the 10 children born over the twenty > years, only 3 or 4 survived to adulthood. > > > Regards > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Shergold > Sent: 21 April 2007 20:27 > To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins > younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is > anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of > generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in > Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and > the > youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to 20 > years) than them. > Michael > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 4/21/2007 > 11:56 AM > >

I was fortunate enough to have a second chance to ask some questions. My father died years ago at age 81. He had two younger sisters, both deceased when he died. He also had a brother who was 5 years younger. They were married and had families but were never "close". My Uncle spent his final months at age 98 of sound mind in a nursing home because of his physical condition. His wife was deceased and his only child could not find the time for many visits. I found the time and we had quite a few chats and many stories were told. I asked about his father and why not much was said of the "old country", Germany. The reply was, "He just didn't want to talk about the bad times". Those leaving home as well as those staying behind knew full well that they would never see each other again. Unable to read or write, there was little or no communication after immigration. My father's generation grew up seeing competition among the immigrants to "get ahead". The same competition grew within the family. One story my father told was that as a 10 year old he and his mother would rise at 4 AM and drive a team with wagon full of produce to sell at market. I asked my Uncle about this and he said, "I did, too." At 97 he still had to compete. By then my father was 15 and had to stay home to do the farm work and the "easy" job of going to market was passed on down to the younger children. The good times were Sunday dinners with many cousins who worked as day labor or maids with room and board would be home for the weekend. The victrola was taken to the barn which had a slick wood floor that was ideal for dancing. Bernice Seeger Hassett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Questions unanswered > Alanna, I found your comment about people who would not talk about family > history interesting as this has > also been my experience and I'm wondering if it was just an "Irish" thing, > a > generational problem, personalities, or what? > > When my oldest uncle was 87 I asked him some family history and he said at > age 10 my grandmother told him not to ask any more personal questions > about > her family, so he could not answer anything I asked him and she was long > dead. My research did find quite a few skeltons in her closet, so perhaps > that was the problem. > > I spoke last week to an 80-something surviving family member I recently > located in Quebec and he said he couldn't tell me much because his father > never would talk about his family when he asked questions (there were 16 > children in it and other branches have the same problem). > > This has pretty much been my experience with anyone who would have been > born > before 1920. Was everyone mad at each other as appears to be the problem > in > with my ancestors, or was it because families just didn't keep in touch > because it was much more difficult than it is today? I'd be interested to > know what other researchers have encountered. > > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alanna Scanlon" <alannal@prodigy.net> > To: "Irl-Clare-Proj" <IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > >> >> Dear List, >> >> My mother's father was married twice. My mother was at the end of the >> second family. Her oldest 1/2 brother was 30 years older than my mother. >> He had a daughter who was born within days of my mother. When they were >> in school together, they just said that they were cousins. >> >> I am the youngest of both sides of my family and everyone has died off. >> Everyone who knew anything either would not talk or was dead by the time >> I >> could ask questions. I remember starting to ask questions when I was 12 >> and even then it was too late. >> >> Alanna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 4/21/2007 > 11:56 AM > >

Jeanne, You are an international wonderwoman. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Queensland BDM Indexes > Kay, > > Thanks so much for sharing this database with us, and I appreciate your > enthusiasm over the accessibility of yet another way to research our > ancestors to Australia. But I wanted to reply to say that the link as > you've posted isn't working. However, after a few guesses of what the > tail-end of that URL should be, I've come up with the following: > > http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/IndexSearch.htm > > Thanks, again, and happy hunting! > Jeanne > > kaynkev <kaynkev@tpg.com.au> wrote: Sorry Everyone - > > Am having a bit of trouble here getting emails sorted - they went before I > checked everything. Please delete the previous ones. Below is the > correct information - > > The address for the online Queensland Births, Deaths and Marriages Index > is > > http://www.justice.qld.gov.au.bdm.IndexSearch > > And the address for online search of the Immigration Records 1884-1912 is > > http://www.archives.qld.gov.au.research/Index/Immigration > > Should turn up some Irish ancestors. > > Hope that is clear enough now. Once again, Sorry. I have been so excited > about these records > finally coming online - we've been promised them for ages. Finally!!!!! > > Best wishes, > Kay - in God's Own Country - Northern Rivers of New South Wales > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not just an Irish thing. My husband's mother, of English and German descent, died shortly after he was born. My husband was close to her brother, but could never get him to talk much about his sister, apparently because it was too painful losing her at a relatively young age. Until fairly recently, most people thought if it hurt to talk about something--don't! (Unfortunately, as a result my husband knows much less about his mother than he might have.) Diane </HTML>

My! My! What great timing Kay--My wife and I are going to Dublin/Clare/Bodyke in October/November thanks to the Aer Lingus sale. It would really be great if after you return home if you could post some trip suggestions from hotels, B&B, pubs, research--anything that would be useful for a fellow traveler and researcher. Thanks in advance Doug Satellite Beach Fl Looking for O'Brien's(I know: you have more than enough to go around<grin>) from Knockbrack in 1840s. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Michael The same has happened in my family. For instance my Great-Grandfather was born in 1867, my grt grt grandparents fifth child. Their first child was born in 1860 and their last child was born in 1881. Unfortunately the first child dies at the age of 18 in 1878, (the last child being named after him three years later). However had he lived, he could well have been having children by the early 1880s. The tragedy in all this is that of the 10 children born over the twenty years, only 3 or 4 survived to adulthood. Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Shergold Sent: 21 April 2007 20:27 To: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and the youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to 20 years) than them. Michael ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > I've got cousins my age who're one generation ahead of me. Their gma > was mum's gma's youngest sister. Aunty Gert b 1885, died 1977, was the > last of the sibling group. > Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > > >> Michael Shergold <michaelshergold@btconnect.com> wrote: >> >> I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins >> younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is >> >> anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of >> generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in >> Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and >> the >> youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to >> 20 >> years) than them. >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alanna, I found your comment about people who would not talk about family history interesting as this has also been my experience and I'm wondering if it was just an "Irish" thing, a generational problem, personalities, or what? When my oldest uncle was 87 I asked him some family history and he said at age 10 my grandmother told him not to ask any more personal questions about her family, so he could not answer anything I asked him and she was long dead. My research did find quite a few skeltons in her closet, so perhaps that was the problem. I spoke last week to an 80-something surviving family member I recently located in Quebec and he said he couldn't tell me much because his father never would talk about his family when he asked questions (there were 16 children in it and other branches have the same problem). This has pretty much been my experience with anyone who would have been born before 1920. Was everyone mad at each other as appears to be the problem in with my ancestors, or was it because families just didn't keep in touch because it was much more difficult than it is today? I'd be interested to know what other researchers have encountered. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alanna Scanlon" <alannal@prodigy.net> To: "Irl-Clare-Proj" <IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. > > Dear List, > > My mother's father was married twice. My mother was at the end of the > second family. Her oldest 1/2 brother was 30 years older than my mother. > He had a daughter who was born within days of my mother. When they were > in school together, they just said that they were cousins. > > I am the youngest of both sides of my family and everyone has died off. > Everyone who knew anything either would not talk or was dead by the time I > could ask questions. I remember starting to ask questions when I was 12 > and even then it was too late. > > Alanna

Hi Everyone Yes, Jeanne, I was SO excited that our long promised BDMs were FINALLY on line I had trouble with the addresses. Also, problems arose with everyone inundating the site - I tried it out myself before the posting to List. Tried to search Horn - got Luscombe then when I retried I got Glover. Also it switched from Births to Marriages in the midst of all this - without any help from me!!! Those of us who have had to deal with the Registrar General's Dept in Brisbane know that one can expect problems. In fact, at this stage, I have to travel to Brisbane (I live 320klms away interstate) to obtain a registered copy of my own Marriage Certificate. Because it is in the last 25 years I, apparently, can't apply online. So later this week I head off to Brisbane armed with my birth certificate (original); first Marriage certificate; Death certificate of my first husband; original church marriage lines (for second marriage), in the hope that I can obtain a Registered copy of this marriage. Why do I need this Marriage Certificate? It's all because I have to obtain a new passport to come to County Clare in August. Is it worth it? Of course it will be. Can't wait. Many thanks to everyone who have given so much help and encouragement with my research and the incentive to finally (hopefully) overcome my Fear of Flying to tackle the long journey to my ancestors homeland. Best wishes to all Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Queensland BDM Indexes >

Michael, I thought I'd share that the distance between 1st cousins in my family is over 30 years. One of my older sister's (3rd of 12) has a daughter who is 36 and my youngest sister (12 of 12) has a son who is 2 years old. It might have been greater if the oldest sister had had children. +++There is 22 years between my oldest/youngest siblings. +++My dad siblings also had 22 years difference (9 of 11 reached old age). +++Grandfather's oldest/youngest siblings were also 22 years apart. +++Great grandfather's siblings were 23 years difference (9 of 10 lived at least 25 years). My youngest sister, who was born in late 1968 (now 38), has first cousins as old as the hills. One of her (our) first cousins was born in 1917 to my dad's oldest sister. So, the day my dad was born in 1919 he was already an uncle to a two year old. My dad's first child wasn't born until 1946, 29 years later. Big Irish Catholic families....ya gotta luv 'em. Oh ya, let me mention...space differences between my siblings. The lullabies my mum hummed to oldest sister Sue included Rock-A-Bye Baby....youngest sister Sarah got 'Hey Jude'....a song that brought tears to her eyes as a toddler and protests that she was tired of that tune. What song do you suppose was among those burned by my daughter on a CD when Sarah had her first child four years ago? Yup. Jayne Madison, Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Unaligned generations question. I've got cousins my age who're one generation ahead of me. Their gma was mum's gma's youngest sister. Aunty Gert b 1885, died 1977, was the last of the sibling group. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Michael Shergold <michaelshergold@btconnect.com> wrote: > > I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins > younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is > > anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of > generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in > Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and > the > youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to > 20 > years) than them. > Michael > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aw, Ellen, don't be silly. I'm just a fixer of things. I don't even have any personal use for that database, but Kay was trying so hard to make it right, I just wanted to help her out! Kay, I thank you again for your contribution of this resource! Jeanne Ellen Crehan <ellencrehan@bigpond.com> wrote: Jeanne, You are an international wonderwoman. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Queensland BDM Indexes > Kay, > > Thanks so much for sharing this database with us, and I appreciate your > enthusiasm over the accessibility of yet another way to research our > ancestors to Australia. But I wanted to reply to say that the link as > you've posted isn't working. However, after a few guesses of what the > tail-end of that URL should be, I've come up with the following: > > http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/IndexSearch.htm > > Thanks, again, and happy hunting! > Jeanne > > kaynkev wrote: Sorry Everyone - > > Am having a bit of trouble here getting emails sorted - they went before I > checked everything. Please delete the previous ones. Below is the > correct information - > > The address for the online Queensland Births, Deaths and Marriages Index > is > > http://www.justice.qld.gov.au.bdm.IndexSearch > > And the address for online search of the Immigration Records 1884-1912 is > > http://www.archives.qld.gov.au.research/Index/Immigration > > Should turn up some Irish ancestors. > > Hope that is clear enough now. Once again, Sorry. I have been so excited > about these records > finally coming online - we've been promised them for ages. Finally!!!!! > > Best wishes, > Kay - in God's Own Country - Northern Rivers of New South Wales > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and the youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to 20 years) than them. Michael

Michael, I've not seen any studies on this but it applies in my family as well. Makes it very confusing to sort out what kind of cousins we are! In our case it seems more to do with a tendency for late marriages in some branches - we are an independent lot [:-)] - than of large families with wide age spread. Cheers Aggi-Rose At 04:26 PM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >I am puzzled in that I now find myself in contact with Clare cousins >younger than me) who are in fact true 2nd cousins of my grandfather. Is >anyone aware of any studies that have been made into why this kind of >generation slippage occurs. In my case it would seem to be because in >Ireland there is a greater spread age difference between the oldest and the >youngest sibling and that several males married wives younger (by 10 to 20 >years) than them. >Michael > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The same is true in my family, as my parents, grandparents, etc., tended to be toward the end of the line in large families. For example, my mother's mother's mother had 13 children over a period of 30 years. Several of her children were younger than several of her grandchildren. Diane </HTML>

Sorry Everyone - Am having a bit of trouble here getting emails sorted - they went before I checked everything. Please delete the previous ones. Below is the correct information - The address for the online Queensland Births, Deaths and Marriages Index is http://www.justice.qld.gov.au.bdm.IndexSearch And the address for online search of the Immigration Records 1884-1912 is http://www.archives.qld.gov.au.research/Index/Immigration Should turn up some Irish ancestors. Hope that is clear enough now. Once again, Sorry. I have been so excited about these records finally coming online - we've been promised them for ages. Finally!!!!! Best wishes, Kay - in God's Own Country - Northern Rivers of New South Wales