Hi Dale Many thanks for your thoughts. Yes I had thought of that but on John's wife's 2nd marriage she is shown as a widow, although this could also be a furfy as John was not a nice man and was in and out of gaol from 1853 to 1859 when his 2nd daughter was born in Sydney, then he disappeared....I believe he may have been in gaol again and possibly could have died there, but can find no records despite searching police gazettes, newspapers and gaol records. Searching the NLA Trove newspaper I found his trial which led to his original police record and showed he and his family's arrival into Sydney which I'd been searching for about 20 years. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Joan in NSW Hi Joan, Just a thought re: death of John - perhaps they divorced and the wife then re-married. Divorce was not common but still a possibility. Dale, NZ Hi listers these are my Roll Call enquiries. I have been researching for years my John LYNCH, Deborah DUNDON, & MORAN families from Kilrush, Co Clare in the very early 1800's. I believe these 3 families to be connected but having a hard time proving it as their baptisms and marriages are all pre 1827 which is when the Kilrush PR's begin. Have searched Tithes and Griffiths for later families but without mother's name for my LYNCH's and so many LYNCH names have found it impossible. John's army record & marriage only showed his father's name and I can't find a death record for him in Australia between 1859 and 1865 when his wife remarried. The HALLORAN's & MCNAMARA's are from Tulla and I believe are from Rosslara found on the Tithes & Griffiths, but there again so many Halloran's and only Tulla mentioned on any records here in Australia [of their son Patrick & his wife and children, another child born on the voyage with further children born at Mulgoa, NSW] who emigrated as bounty immigrants in 1839. Kind regards Joan in NSW, Australia