Hi Robert, If he was in the "Grey Funnel Line" ( American Navy and not the American Merchant Marine) one would think that they would still be searching for him, for to jump ship in the Navy , he would have been branded as a deserter. With, the Merchant Navy - I don't think they would look too long for him as that would cost more money than it would be worth. However, if he jumped ship in the merchant marine then I would think it would be hard for him to sign back on an other vessel for you had a Discharge Book where all entries are recorded. But who knows for they all seemed to have told lies. No different from today I guess. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [CLARE] emigrant ship questions > Thanks for that John > > My entry into this subject was prompted by an ancestor that joined the > Portuguese Navy, allegedly jumped ship in America, then joined the > American > Navy and again jumped ship, in Australia. I wonder about the validity of > his story given that some of his other information has proved to be > fiction. > Discussions as we are having help to mould ones thoughts. > > Robert in Melbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Walton [mailto:vabre@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 11:46 AM > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CLARE] emigrant ship questions > > Hi Robert and Marylyn, > > I thought I would jump in here to let you know of my experience. > In the late 1950's and early 1960's I was an engineer in the British > Mercatile > Marine. As you most probably know the Maritime industry is steeped in > tradition, > but I guess things have now changed. However when I was at sea, on each > trip > > we > signed on for the voyage or part thereof, if that was agreeable to the > captain. > I know that when I first went to sea I signed on in Sydney for the voyage > to > > Liverpool, > and on each voyage I had to sign on again, whether that was, what was > termed > as "Home Articles" ( voyages to ports on the Continent) or > Deep Sea Articles ( voyages to Australia, USA etc). I wouldn't think that > there > had been many changes to that procedure over the last hundred and fifty > odd > years. > Tradition in the Navy ( Mercanile or Royal) still exists. Therefore it > doesn't come as a surprise > that your ancestor changed ships. > The other aspect is in my time some ships were "tramp" ships, picking up > cargo from port to port > and if one signed on a tramp ship for the voyage then you had no idea as > to > when you would > return to your home port. This lead to seaman jumping ship. Poor > conditions > they at some times had to endure also prompted them to jump ship. > Regular shipping companies such as Cunard, Port Line , Blue Star, Castle > Line etc. ran > god ships and looked after their crew. Where the tramp ships were usually > pretty "rusty" old buckets. > This is not perhaps directly related to your ancestor but it may throw > some > light on to the traditions > that exist in the maritime industry. > > John...Sydney. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> > To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:52 AM > Subject: RE: [CLARE] emigrant ship questions > > >> G'Day Marilyn >> >> That's very interesting information; I look forward to the letter >> transcriptions. That puts a different completion on crews changing ship. >> >> Robert in Aus >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MSiperek@aol.com [mailto:MSiperek@aol.com] >> Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 1:27 AM >> To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CLARE] emigrant ship questions >> >> I know this response is delayed but I wanted to add some first hand >> information on ship travel during the 1819-1822. I have some >> correspondence from an >> ancestor who was a ship mate on a variety of ships traveling to and from >> Scotland, Ireland and US and Canada. I cannot transcribe these letters >> or >> scan >> them at this time, due family commitments. I cannot speak for all >> shiphands >> but here are some observations from his letters: >> 1. He did not stay with one ship. Sometimes he would look for a >> different >> >> ship to return to his homeland. >> 2. At times the condition of the ship were so bad that he would wait >> for >> months to find another ship to return home. >> 3. 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