Some of us researching Ireland and England records for the years 1600 to 1775 are aware of Indentured Servitude. Official definition here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant Very old newspapers from New England and southern colonies down to the Carolinas, are full of ads placed by business owners (not all English surnames) posting rewards in pounds for the capture and return of their Irish slaves. It seems reasonable to assume many of our ancestors were slaves at one time. These parts of history tend heat things up and keep our research interesting. Don Kelly of that rowdy Connaught bunch. ----- Original Message ----- From: <marymmccawjr@aol.com> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > Many of us are learning about the famine, the landlords and the English > for the first time. Both my parents were born in Ireland and both families > were involved with the fight for freedom in the early 1900's. My parents > did not tell us about the things that happened in Ireland. They said their > parents didn't talk about the famine. Like the Holocast. Who could > comprehend it. Those that I did talk to said that our landlord was one of > the "better" ones. That may be so but he owned an obscene 38,000 Irish > acres. So I read and get angry and then let it go. But I have a right to > be angry for a few weeks. On this day I can be grateful for the English > who have twarted a terrorist plot to hijack 10 US planes, but allow me the > right to be a little upset now and then with a different English > generation. I will get over it. It will take me a little longer to get > over the Irish that were kidnapped off the streets of Ireland, Scotland > and Wales and sold into slavery in America, Barbados a! > nd Jamaica. Not many know about that either. Bringing things to light and > talking about them allow us to heal. Thank you. > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: socrates_399@yahoo.com > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > > > Not me! Just a nice smallish, tasteful urn on a dusty bookshelf. I've > always > said I don't want to take up too much space!!! > > Jeanne > > Donal O'Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote: > Our ancestors may have once owned one million acres in Ireland, but we > will > all end up at the ends of our lives, is a small piece of land 18 square > feet > by 6 feet deep. > > So we concern ourselves with what is good and smile at the rest. > > Cheers all..gotta have a little fun. > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > > >>I share your opinion 'its water under the bridge' I wouldn't blame any >>man >> for what his ancestors had done unless by HIS actions he exhibits the >> same >> traits.........TOM >> >> >> ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== >> If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send >> e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the >> word >> subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. 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If you Google Irish AND slaves you will get quite an assortment of information. I personally only heard about this recently. One of the first places that they sent Irish slaves in the 1600's was to Monserrat. Later in the 1800's when an Irish ship showed up, all the blacks spoke Gaelic. They said to the Irishmen - You don't look Irish. I have been helping a guy at work to trace his black genealogy and got to the end of the line (for now) to the Malotto individual. Initially I thought it was more likely the slave owner but now I have learned that the slave owners were mating the comely Irish lassie's with the blacks to get a lighter shade negro and they also wanted to increase their stock. Anyway, however the Irish came to be wherever they are - the countries are lucky to have us. I don't know if any of my past generations of family were any of those that were scooped up off the streets or stolen from their beds but I would gratefully accept them as family. And very br! ave and courageous ones at that. Mary of Connecticut -----Original Message----- From: ocollaugh@comcast.net To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black Some of us researching Ireland and England records for the years 1600 to 1775 are aware of Indentured Servitude. Official definition here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant Very old newspapers from New England and southern colonies down to the Carolinas, are full of ads placed by business owners (not all English surnames) posting rewards in pounds for the capture and return of their Irish slaves. It seems reasonable to assume many of our ancestors were slaves at one time. These parts of history tend heat things up and keep our research interesting. Don Kelly of that rowdy Connaught bunch. ----- Original Message ----- From: <marymmccawjr@aol.com> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > Many of us are learning about the famine, the landlords and the English > for the first time. Both my parents were born in Ireland and both families > were involved with the fight for freedom in the early 1900's. My parents > did not tell us about the things that happened in Ireland. They said their > parents didn't talk about the famine. Like the Holocast. Who could > comprehend it. Those that I did talk to said that our landlord was one of > the "better" ones. That may be so but he owned an obscene 38,000 Irish > acres. So I read and get angry and then let it go. But I have a right to > be angry for a few weeks. On this day I can be grateful for the English > who have twarted a terrorist plot to hijack 10 US planes, but allow me the > right to be a little upset now and then with a different English > generation. I will get over it. It will take me a little longer to get > over the Irish that were kidnapped off the streets of Ireland, Scotland > and Wales and sold into sl! avery in America, Barbados a! > nd Jamaica. Not many know about that either. Bringing things to light and > talking about them allow us to heal. Thank you. > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: socrates_399@yahoo.com > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > > > Not me! Just a nice smallish, tasteful urn on a dusty bookshelf. I've > always > said I don't want to take up too much space!!! > > Jeanne > > Donal O'Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote: > Our ancestors may have once owned one million acres in Ireland, but we > will > all end up at the ends of our lives, is a small piece of land 18 square > feet > by 6 feet deep. > > So we concern ourselves with what is good and smile at the rest. > > Cheers all..gotta have a little fun. > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [CLARE] 1850 ? voyage of the Jane Black > > >>I share your opinion 'its water under the bridge' I wouldn't blame any >>man >> for what his ancestors had done unless by HIS actions he exhibits the >> same >> traits.........TOM >> >> >> ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== >> If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send >> e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the >> word >> subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. 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