Hi Kathleen, I missed adding this on to my first letter, but in the reference I mentioned, just following Thomas Meagher's speech which ends... "...Sure, we won't be fool enough to get caught." ...is the following: "The enraged judge decreed that the defendants should be hanged, drawn, and quartered. Passionate and awesome protests caused Queen Victoria to commute the sentence to banishment for life and transportation to Australia." So if this is also not true, I am the likely person that first put this onto the Internet, but, just onto a mail list. Regards, Jim McNamara ----- Original Message ----- From: MK Douglas To: Dr. Jane Lyons ; jeanine ; y-irl@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Young Irelanders : Re: [Y-IRL] Non Gen...The Nine Convicts Thank you, Jane for your comments, and all the links on these people. I read the "Speeches from the Dock" from cover to cover more years ago than I care to remember, and I must admit that I have forgotten most, although at the age of 13, I could recite Emmet's and Meagher's. I had borrowed a very old copy from my father's best friend, a man from Wexford--my father and he would be over 100 years old now. Your reference has pushed me to look for a copy for myself now. The "hung drawn and quartered' is one of those things that has stuck in my head, and I will research further. I am not an internet believer, and I am most often not a Wikipedia user, although I will use as a shortcut if I know from other sources that it is correct. Kathleen " [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 23New Members b.. 1New Photos Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Car rental ireland b.. Ireland rental car c.. Ireland vacation d.. Ireland travel e.. Ireland florist Yahoo! Travel Find Great Deals Flights, Hotels, Cars, Cruises... Yahoo! TV "The 9" Daily count down of top Web finds. Y! GeoCities Create a Web Site Easy-to-use tools. Get started now. . __,_._,___