Thank you Georgia, That's definitely the kind of info I'm looking for. I've spent so much time "hanging around" the Limerick List, it's been kind of hard to switch gears. Did any of your line of Roughan's have ties to Limerick, or, for that matter, New York? Did any of your Roughan's ever, in later years, change to Rowan? In our 1850 Census my three are listed as Dennis Rowhen, Timothy Rowhen, and John Roughan. By 1860, they were using Rowen or Rowan. Do you know if the given name of Donough would be an equivalent of Dennis? Any Irish county that I have been watching is very lacking for the given name of Dennis with Rowan. Sorry for all of the questions, but I sure appreciate your help. Kitty

Kitty, As I stated, my Carberry family has only that one Roughan baptismal sponsor which seems to arise out of my family's closeness to the Cunneens. I will let the real Roughan descendants step forward to answer your other questions, but, in less than 60 seconds with some basic Googling ("donogh +denis" as search phrase), I found the below information on the forename which seems to have you puzzled. Sharon Carberry residing Georgia "5. THE IRISH OR ENGLISH EQUIVALENTS OF ONE ANOTHER: But not necessarily being a correct translation of such names. Donough: Denis: Donat ...." http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587/Irname.html Also note: "Donogh Mór O'Daly (In Irish Donnchadh Mór O Dálaigh) A celebrated Irish poet, d. 1244. About thirty of his poems are extant, amounting to four or five thousand lines, nearly all religious. O'Reilly styles him Abbot of Boyle (Irish Writers, p. LXXXVIII) as does O'Curry (Manners and Customs, III, p. 301); he was certainly buried in the abbey there, but it cannot be proved that he was an ecclesiastic..." http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11206a.htm "...Of a later date is "Donnchadh MacCathal beg," composed for Donogh (Denis) O'Conor, at whose house O'Carolan was always a welcome guest..." http://www.libraryireland.com/IrishMusic/XXI.php ----- Original Message ----- From: <DUCKEECPS@aol.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Rougan of upper E. Clare > Thank you Georgia, > > That's definitely the kind of info I'm looking for. I've spent so much time > "hanging around" the Limerick List, it's been kind of hard to switch gears. > > Did any of your line of Roughan's have ties to Limerick, or, for that > matter, New York? > > Did any of your Roughan's ever, in later years, change to Rowan? In our > 1850 Census my three are listed as Dennis Rowhen, Timothy Rowhen, and John > Roughan. By 1860, they were using Rowen or Rowan. > > Do you know if the given name of Donough would be an equivalent of Dennis? > Any Irish county that I have been watching is very lacking for the given name > of Dennis with Rowan. > > Sorry for all of the questions, but I sure appreciate your help. > > > Kitty > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 > >

The spelling of the name has, it seems, become standardised as 'Rowan' - my sister married a 'Rowan, and his family for many, many years were in the city, but he says they came from some townland in the county, where they were evicted from. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: <DUCKEECPS@aol.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Rougan of upper E. Clare > Thank you Georgia, > > That's definitely the kind of info I'm looking for. I've spent so much > time > "hanging around" the Limerick List, it's been kind of hard to switch > gears. > > Did any of your line of Roughan's have ties to Limerick, or, for that > matter, New York? > > Did any of your Roughan's ever, in later years, change to Rowan? In our > 1850 Census my three are listed as Dennis Rowhen, Timothy Rowhen, and > John > Roughan. By 1860, they were using Rowen or Rowan. > > Do you know if the given name of Donough would be an equivalent of > Dennis? > Any Irish county that I have been watching is very lacking for the given > name > of Dennis with Rowan. > > Sorry for all of the questions, but I sure appreciate your help. > Kitty