Is that all? :-) Jeanne Niel & Heather <nhbrain@alphalink.com.au> wrote: Dear List, In reply to the question what do non Clare residents want from a convention in 2007. I would love to come, meet all of you, and listen to your wisdom, then be pointed in the way of the huge repository of records relating to my dear Meere and McGuane ancestors. Then I can die happy. Heather Brain Melbourne, Vic. A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 114 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kilkee, County Clare (Chris Goopy) > 2. British Police Force in Ireland (Janet Haggart) > 3. Re: Convention 2007? (Ellen Crehan) > 4. Re: Clare Journal 1907 MUNGOVAN, REIDY, KERIN, DOOHAN > (Judith Mason) > 5. Re: British Police Force in Ireland (Patrick Casey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:52:32 +1000 > From: Chris Goopy > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkee, County Clare > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4560E030.6010701@optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Thanks for all the links, Larry... I have bookmarked the lot and will > visit Co Clare via them as soon as time permits. :-) > > Chris > > > Larry Brennan wrote: >> Visit Kilkee at: >> http://www.kilkee.ie/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:04:21 +1100 > From: Janet Haggart > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] British Police Force in Ireland > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4560F105.2050007@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Listers > > I am seeking information regarding Irishmen who worked for the British > constabulary around 1900. I run a family history group for U3A in > Australia and one of the members is descended from one of these people. > He was her grandfather and she was told by her late father that he and > his brothers were sent to Australia to escape from people who may have > harmed them because of their father's association with the British > constabulary. I would be very grateful for any information about > Irishmen in the British police force. > > Many thanks in advance > Jan Haggart > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:59:42 +1100 > From: "Ellen Crehan" > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Convention 2007? > To: > Message-ID: <000901c70c3f$2a1d8880$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Greetings All, > > I echo the sentiments of Chris on the above subject .... > I just hope the echo reaches to Ireland in my lifetime. > > Cheers, > Ellen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Goopy" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Convention 2007? > > >> >> Thanks, Jeanne. >> >> Let's hope it can happen in one form or another. >> >> Chris >> >> Jeanne Foley Dwyer wrote: >> > Hi, Chris and all other listers who have enquired about this topic in > the last few weeks: >> > >> > As of now, there is just not enough local support (interest in helping > to organise expressed by those researchers who live in Co. Clare) to move > forward with the idea of a seminar/conference/convention for 2007. The > interest among the subscribers of this list has been more than sufficient, > however, and by that I am encouraged that some day this project will > happen. >> > >> > Further, I heartily encourage discussion on-list about this topic, i.e. > what non-Clare residents would want out of such a gathering. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jeanne >> > (on behalf of the would-be organisers >> > of Clare Family History Seminar 2007) >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:25:16 -0800 (PST) > From: Judith Mason > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Clare Journal 1907 MUNGOVAN, REIDY, KERIN, > DOOHAN > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20061120052516.17713.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Catherine, > > Re Mungovan, does any of the following look familar to you? > > Margaret Mungovan godparent to Michael Mason son of Mathew Mason & > Johanna/Judith Boland > Shannakyle 10/4/1859 > > Mary Mungovan godparent to Patrick Kelly son of Patrick Kelly & Johanna > Mason (sister to Matthew above) > Shannakyle 9/7/1853 > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > > Catherine Eystad wrote: > Extracts from the Newspapers of Co Clare Ireland > > > Published in the Kilmaley Parish Magazine with permission from the "Clare > Champion" and the Ennis County Library > > > Clare Journal Monday, February 11, 1907 > > > *Kilmaley Farmer's Tragic End Killed by Fall From Horse* > > > John MUNGOVAN of Kanturk met with his death at Slieveloughane, near > Kilmaley, under most tragic circumstances by a fall from his horse. He had > been at a funeral from Ennis on that day, of a Mrs. KELLY, Kilmaley and > was > returning hom on horseback accompanied by his father in law Daniel REIDY > when about a half mile from his home the deceased's horse seems to have > taken fright causing Reidy's horse to gallop on in front. It would appear > that poor MUNGOVAN was then thrown by the restive horse and, it is > believed, > to have been killed on the spot. There was no eye witness of the tragic > event. > > An inquiry was held on Monday by Mr. F.F. CULLINAN, solicitor. Coroner, Mr > T. DOOHAN being the foreman of the jury. > > Daniel REIDY of Glaun, who was the first witness examined, gave evidence > to > the fact that he knew the deceased who was his son in law. The deceased, > who > was about forty years of age, was a farmer. He had seen him last alive > about > six o'clock on Saturday night, having met him at the funeral of Mrs KEANE, > which came from Ennis. They came from Kilmaley Cross, both being riding on > horses. > > When they got about half mile from the deceased's place the horse on which > the deceased was riding got some fright and commenced to gallop which set > witness' horse also off. He then got in front of the deceased and was not > able to stop his horse until he went for about a half mile. Witness then > walked home. He was told where the body was found and that place would b > quite close to where the horse became frightened. > > Michael KERIN, Slieveloughane, stated that he knew the deceased. He > remembered Michael and John DOOHAN being at his father's house on Saturday > night at about half past nine o'clock. After leaving the house, they came > back again and said that there was a horse in McINERNEY's field. > > Witness went out to see what horse was there. He then saw a saddle on the > horse which he recognised as belonging to the deceased. They caught the > horse and they found the bridle broken as was also the girth of the > saddle. > Having taken the horse out they made a search and after some time they > found > the body of the decease who was partly lying on his face close to the > ditch > of the field in which the horse had been, just at the cross. The > deceased's > shoulder was partly against the fence. As far as witness could see, the > man > was dead but the body was not cold. They took him into witness' father's > house and there put him before the fire but he never showed any signs of > life. They sent for the priest. > > Dr T. KILLEEN, medical officer of Killaniv, gave evidence of his having > examined the body of the deceased. There was a contused wound on the right > side of his face and dislocation of the cervical vertebrae which was the > cause of death. Those injuries would be caused by falling off a horse. > > The jury returned a verdict that John MUNGOVAN was accidentally killed on > Saturday, the second of February, by falling off a horse which he was > riding. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:47:07 +0100 > From: "Patrick Casey" > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] British Police Force in Ireland > To: > Message-ID: <000001c70c6f$b2ec6b10$6401a8c0@HPLAPTOP01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Jan, > > People who aided, or were suspected of aiding, the English authorities > were > sometimes emigrated (my use of this form of the verb is deliberate) to > Australasia under a procedure known as Protection of Crown Witnesses. I > mentioned this some time back on this List. I've made a few attempts to > find out more about this procedure as I was trying to trace a family named > Ryan which was transferred from Clare to Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) > because > their lives were in danger. For some time a police guard had lived in a > little hut next to their house to ensure their safety. There is obviously > quite a bit of documentation on the 19th century Crown Witness procedure > in > the English archives in Kew. I found references to it online but have not > been able to visit Kew to find out more. Nor have I been able to find > records of their arrivals at the Australasian end. Maybe the records have > been lost but it is also possible that their arrivals were kept secret to > maintain their anonymities, i.e. that records were deliberately not kept. > I > also wondered whether there were any records of financial assistance > offered > to these people but have not turned anything up. > > I have no idea whether this translocation was forcible or voluntary or > something in-between, e.g. whether there was some kind of judicial > process. > > P?draig (the Paddy that was) > > P.S. The British police force was called the RIC. P(tPtw) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Janet Haggart > Sent: 20 November 2006 01:04 > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] British Police Force in Ireland > > > > Hello Listers > > I am seeking information regarding Irishmen who worked for the British > constabulary around 1900. I run a family history group for U3A in > Australia and one of the members is descended from one of these people. > He was her grandfather and she was told by her late father that he and > his brothers were sent to Australia to escape from people who may have > harmed them because of their father's association with the British > constabulary. I would be very grateful for any information about > Irishmen in the British police force. > > Many thanks in advance > Jan Haggart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 114 > ***************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 18/11/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! 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