Elizabeth, How amazing that you went to Tuamgraney! My ancestors Michael McMahon (b1799) & his son Patrick(b 1836-1839) came from this area.They also arrived into Vic Do you think it is worthwhile purchasing this book,does it give you names? Thanks Rae Ryan Qld. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elizabeth Andrews" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:39 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year'sEve, 1819' in which John Brady, Landlord,was "up for investigation" - REPEAT QUERY!! > > > From: Elizabeth Andrews > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year's Eve, 1819' in > which John Brady, Landlord, was "up for investigation" > > G’day all, > This post is a rare one to this list. > I have just visited County Clare. What a lovely place!!! I loved East > Clare and the North West of the County, The Burren, “blew me away!!”. > I didn’t see the “sun go down on Galway Bay” because it was cloudy but the > Aran Isles were another adventure. > I even climbed up to the fort on Innismore!!! I’m OLD, 3 score years and > 13, and FAT!! > The arrangement of those dry stone walls in County Clare around the > oh-so-small fields was evidence, in itself, of the oppression of the > people in the 1850’sl > The first area I went to, of course, after arriving from England at > Shannon Airport was – Scariff then Tuamgraney where I purchased “A History > of Tuamgraney & Scariff” written by Gerard Madden and published by East > Clare Heritage, Tuamgraney in 2000. > > My query is about the Battle of Scariff as described in the book and the > subsequent enquiry by George Warburton – Chief Magistrate, County Clare in > 1819. The reference given in the book for p.77 is ”Jimmy O’Toole, The > Carlow Gentry, 1993” > One of the witnesses cited was one John Gorman of Fossa Beg. They were > investigating the landlord, one John Brady (the rotten apple in the Brady > Bunch so it seems). > Are there any records on line of judicial enquiries around that time apart > from unpublished theses or books such as cited above? > > I have an ancestor – g.grandmother, Cath. Harwood (nee Gorman) – who hails > from the Tuamgraney/Fossa Beg/Scariff area. She left there around 1851 – > AFAIK! > I am still struggling to find how & why she came to the goldfields of > Wedderburn, Victoria, Australia. > She met, and married, my g.grandfather Joseph Harwood who hailed from > Scarborough, Yorkshire and they were the first couple married on the > Wedderburn Goldfields. > I have a feeling, also, that there might be some connection with St. > Cronan’s Church in Tuamgraney as my g.gran. married in Victoria in the > Church of England tradition. (I noted that St. Cronan’s seemed to be > Church of Ireland) > > Did she come via England? Canada? America? > I live south of Melbourne in Victoria, Australia so don’t have easy access > to shipping records and there are MANY! > > My g.g.grandfather, Hugh Gorman, is listed on the Tithe Applotments as > sharing a potato plot with 15 others in Fossa Beg which today just seems > to be a very small area with an R.C. Church, a few houses and loads of > power poles. The Gormans, obviously, were not the landlords and were > possibly Protestants for convenience sake or otherwise. > I spoke to one of the residents of Fossa Beg in May 2011 but was loathe to > interrupt the local priest to ask questions. He may not have been able > to help anyway! > > Would SKS be able to help??? > > Thanking you all for a wonderful list! > Elizabeth Andrews, Mornington Peninsula, Vic., Australia. > > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message