Peter, Thanks for your email. I have been searching for about 20 years for Mary Ann and her father Timothy and I have only found that Ireland has been shown as her birthplace. Now some kind person sent me an email many years ago which was lost due to a computer crash,showing a Timothy "Felscharold" which she said could be a variant of FITZGERALD, in Abervale, 1841 Census for Monmouthshire Wales. He is shown with 2 children.....Elinor b.about 1825? [not sure of this date] and Mary Ann b.1835, [which is correct as shown on her marriage certificate with her father known as Timothy Fitzgerald.I have all the history from the marriage to Thomas HOOLEY coming down to myself.] Timothy is shown as a Tinman [always smile at this...Wizard of Oz?] but there were no other family with him and he was a widower. I have tried the 1841 Census of Mons. but with no luck I am afraid. I noticed that Ancestry had an entry for her being born in Abervale but I cannot find this either. I know that sometimes that Ancestry get things wrong and I want to find out who sent this in so I can contact them. Mind you, there are so many Mary Anns in Ireland and Wales alone. Have just noticed another 2 emails come in with more information so I can see I will be busy today checking out all these sites. Again, thanks for your suggestions and I will keep looking through Wales for more information. Incidently, I have the certificates for Timothys 2nd marriage in 1867 and death in 1872 in Swansea Wales and Mary Anns marriage certificate for 1857 also Swansea Wales. All just showing Ireland as the place of birth.She died in 1908 and I hope to send for her death certificate this week. However, looking at all the censuses, it appears that grt/grandparents,Mary Ann and Thomas Hooley and their large family, lived most of their lives around Cardiff as G/grandfather worked in the Coal business on the Docks. Back to work now Peter and try to find these Fitzeralds! Again many thanks and best wishes, Mary [Hooley] Mizzi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] MaryAnn FITZGERALD > Mary, > > Have you any particular reason for thinking they are from Clare? > > I'd start by looking in Wales. Do you have Mary's marriage certificate > or her father's death certificate? And what of her mother? > > If she married in Swansea in 1856, it's possible that the family may > have moved there before 1851 census. > > I'd try and find her father Timothy in 1851, 1861 and 1871. Was he a > widower? Were there any other family members? Was his occupation a cooper? > Don't rely on just one census. > > If we had a name for her mother, it would make identifying Mary or one > of her brothers and sisters somewhat easier. We might also find a > marriage. > That would settle if we were looking in the right place. > > The IFHF website has only two Mary Fitzgerald baptisms with father > Timothy. Both in 1838. One was in Cork, the other in Limerick. But that > doesn't mean a lot as many records have not survived. > > Peter > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message