-----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-clare-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013 7:00 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DELETE all extra text in the Digest Today's Topics: 1. Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (Larry Brennan) 2. Re: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (pcasey) 3. Re: Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (Jon O'Grady) 4. Re: Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (Jon O'Grady) 5. Re: Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (shiel076@umn.edu) 6. Re: Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare (Peter R Booth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 13:06:27 -0000 From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Cc: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9C7B5B58BA53459394408CB0F862298D@DBDPTD1J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Friend?s happy new year from County Clare: The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland & County Clare. Further information to follow. This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy Community: A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to East Clare and Feakle. If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. Barry to the Kilnamona area. Gallery to Ennistymon Area. Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. We could then prepare a map showing the results. Just a though. Sl?n, Larry. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 20:20:43 +0100 From: "pcasey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: <irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com>, <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006101cde855$18e6de60$4ab49b20$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry, I know that Clare County Library has plans to produce maps showing the relative distibution of surnames using the Combined List of Surnames data on the website at http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/surname_list_combined.htm . It's a very logical step because it "mines" the census, Griffith's, and Tithe Applotment data which has already been collected and tabulated, i.e. what one might call the spadework has already been done. Rainer Kosbi has recently developed a new version of his maps system which would allow him to show the distribution. This has been a long-time objective of the library and it is only recently that they have been in a position to develop this new service. As I understand it the new surname mapping should become available later this year (2013). Paddy Casey -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 01 January 2013 14:06 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare Friend?s happy new year from County Clare: The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland & County Clare. Further information to follow. This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy Community: A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to East Clare and Feakle. If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. Barry to the Kilnamona area. Gallery to Ennistymon Area. Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. We could then prepare a map showing the results. Just a though. Sl?n, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 07:56:36 +1100 From: "Jon O'Grady" <jonogrady@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1198B3AB-216C-4E25-AA40-91B3F7B98E97@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Larry, This would be a very good idea and great help to people getting started. It would also help tracking down the oldest generations of a family tree. Some years ago I tried mapping my O'Grady family by townland and drew up the results in a spreadsheet that was laid out to roughly match the geographical relationships. I used the Griffiths distributions. It was useful for understanding the distribution of the family and showed they had moved in two directions from their origins around Iragh. I would caution on one thing, families overtime end up leaving their original territory so it would be important not to conflate all the different sources into the one map but rather draw up each separately. At the time I also did some work on the Quinlan/Quinlivan name and discovered that they were clearly divided between the east and west of the county. I thought this warranted some socio-linguisitic explanation but did not have the expertise to do so. I would propose to the Clare Library a more comprehensive view of the task, that is, that they make it as an (annual?) time map showing the movement in the namesakes throughout the county at some suitable time interval, linked with births and deaths rather than just a static record of local frequencies, and if they could add the migrations out of the county both to elsewhere in Ireland and to overseas it would create a great understanding of our migration history both on a micro and macro scale. cheers jon On 02/01/2013, at 12:06 AM, Larry Brennan wrote: > Friend?s happy new year from County Clare: > > > > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in > Ireland & County Clare. > > > > Further information to follow. > > > > This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy > Community: > > > > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the > County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we > compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > > > > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct > them to East Clare and Feakle. > > If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. > > Barry to the Kilnamona area. > > Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > > > > Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names > within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual > who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. > > > > What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > > > > Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. > Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > > > > We could then prepare a map showing the results. > > > > Just a though. > > > > Sl?n, > > > > Larry. > > > > =========================== > Try http://www.google.ie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:08:41 +1100 From: "Jon O'Grady" <jonogrady@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2D266013-4A8A-4D96-A483-C7EC66111266@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 As a footnote to my last posting. I believe there are few records indicating the migrations overseas from the county. These figures might be better collected by the diaspora from the various points of disembarkation where the county of the immigrant is often recorded, as was done here in Australia. This would require mobilising each local community to trawl their records for people of Clare origins and compile the frequencies of the namesakes. I think this could be done quickly in OZ as so much of this material is on-line. It might be more difficult elsewhere and for other exit modes like joining the British regiments. Perhaps other OZ subscribers who know the materials well could suggest how we could do this and what effort it would take. cheers jon On 02/01/2013, at 12:06 AM, Larry Brennan wrote: > Friend?s happy new year from County Clare: > > > > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in > Ireland & County Clare. > > > > Further information to follow. > > > > This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy > Community: > > > > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the > County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we > compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > > > > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct > them to East Clare and Feakle. > > If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. > > Barry to the Kilnamona area. > > Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > > > > Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names > within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual > who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. > > > > What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > > > > Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. > Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > > > > We could then prepare a map showing the results. > > > > Just a though. > > > > Sl?n, > > > > Larry. > > > > =========================== > Try http://www.google.ie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: 01 Jan 2013 17:36:32 -0600 From: shiel076@umn.edu Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <Gophermail.2.0.1301011736320.11669@vs-m.tc.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Great idea Larry! I cannot volunteer for this, but it sounds like a great idea. I have O'Laughlins, and a Mary Collins from Co. Clare. Mary might have been from Feakle, but my source for the origin of these people is from a woman whose daughter told me that, if she didn't have a good story to tell, she made one up. Happy New Year! Kate On Jan 1 2013, Larry Brennan wrote: >Friend?s happy new year from County Clare: > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland >& County Clare.> > >Further information to follow. > >This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy >Community: > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index >to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to >East Clare and Feakle. > >If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. >Barry to the Kilnamona area. > >Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > >Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within >the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed >into the project with their Parish of interest. > >What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > >Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. >Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > >We could then prepare a map showing the results. > >Just a thought. > >Sl?n, > >Larry. >=========================== >Try http://www.google.ie/> >------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:02:04 +1100 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004f01cde87c$65e04e00$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Larry, It seems to me the job's half done. We already have a database in Griffiths Valuation on the Clare Library site which also has the frequency of surnames as well. I'd suggest seeing if that list could be enhanced by adding the capacity to resort either list by clicking on column headings. It's seems a rather simple change. It's done on many other sites. Peter in Sydney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 ***************************************

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Happy New Year everyone! During the year and after a long, long search I found the last of my gr grandfathers 6 brothers - the only one to remain in Ireland. Brigid is one of the 5 sisters - I have info for 2 of them. Edward/Ned's death certificate doesn't give an interment place. I've checked Kilquane where others (cousins) in this family are buried. Have also checked Mt. St. Lawrence in Limerick - no luck at either. Any suggestions much appreciated! Judie Mason Chicago Name: Mason, Edward/Edmund (Ned) Date Of Death: September 12, 1912 Place Of Death: Limerick Workhouse Residence: Denmark Street, Limerick Gender: Male Age: 71 Marital Status: Single Cause Of Death: senility/cardiac failure Occupation: Laborer Informant: Brigid Mason Date Recorded: September 20, 1912 Source Of Record: GRO Certificate No.: 368 Place Of Birth: Cloonoughter Mother's Name: Hayes, Bridget Father's Name: Mason, James

Happy New Year to you too Larry This sounds a wonderful project - as someone who is finding nothing but brick walls in the homeland of my grandmother's family it would be something I'd appreciate. Its family tradition that says my Quinns came from Co. Clare, although I can find nothing online anyways to back that up... and then there are the Caffreys, Coyles, Melias, and Gaffneys - and who knows what names link with all of them.. from where I know not (Coyles might be Meath but I haven't found them either).. I wish it were something with which I could help.. Faye ---- Larry Brennan <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> wrote: > Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: > > > > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland > & County Clare. > > > > Further information to follow. > > > > This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy > Community: > > > > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County > but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index > to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > > > > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to > East Clare and Feakle. > > If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. > > Barry to the Kilnamona area. > > Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > > > > Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within > the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed > into the project with their Parish of interest. > > > > What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > > > > Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. > Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > > > > We could then prepare a map showing the results. > > > > Just a though. > > > > Slán, > > > > Larry. > > > > =========================== > Try http://www.google.ie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Larry, It seems to me the job's half done. We already have a database in Griffiths Valuation on the Clare Library site which also has the frequency of surnames as well. I'd suggest seeing if that list could be enhanced by adding the capacity to resort either list by clicking on column headings. It's seems a rather simple change. It's done on many other sites. Peter in Sydney

As a footnote to my last posting. I believe there are few records indicating the migrations overseas from the county. These figures might be better collected by the diaspora from the various points of disembarkation where the county of the immigrant is often recorded, as was done here in Australia. This would require mobilising each local community to trawl their records for people of Clare origins and compile the frequencies of the namesakes. I think this could be done quickly in OZ as so much of this material is on-line. It might be more difficult elsewhere and for other exit modes like joining the British regiments. Perhaps other OZ subscribers who know the materials well could suggest how we could do this and what effort it would take. cheers jon On 02/01/2013, at 12:06 AM, Larry Brennan wrote: > Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: > > > > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland > & County Clare. > > > > Further information to follow. > > > > This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy > Community: > > > > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County > but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index > to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > > > > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to > East Clare and Feakle. > > If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. > > Barry to the Kilnamona area. > > Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > > > > Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within > the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed > into the project with their Parish of interest. > > > > What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > > > > Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. > Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > > > > We could then prepare a map showing the results. > > > > Just a though. > > > > Slán, > > > > Larry. > > > > =========================== > Try http://www.google.ie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter & All, Jim Mc Namara has been working off line developing a research tool with regard to this. I will cut and paste Jim's thought later in the day for Boards views. I have made a New Years resolution, Day job to be done by day, Genealogy is a hobby to be done after work hours. Thanks to all, Larry. -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter R Booth Sent: 02 January 2013 00:02 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare Larry, It seems to me the job's half done. We already have a database in Griffiths Valuation on the Clare Library site which also has the frequency of surnames as well. I'd suggest seeing if that list could be enhanced by adding the capacity to resort either list by clicking on column headings. It's seems a rather simple change. It's done on many other sites. Peter in Sydney =========================== Try http://www.google.ie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Larry, This would be a very good idea and great help to people getting started. It would also help tracking down the oldest generations of a family tree. Some years ago I tried mapping my O'Grady family by townland and drew up the results in a spreadsheet that was laid out to roughly match the geographical relationships. I used the Griffiths distributions. It was useful for understanding the distribution of the family and showed they had moved in two directions from their origins around Iragh. I would caution on one thing, families overtime end up leaving their original territory so it would be important not to conflate all the different sources into the one map but rather draw up each separately. At the time I also did some work on the Quinlan/Quinlivan name and discovered that they were clearly divided between the east and west of the county. I thought this warranted some socio-linguisitic explanation but did not have the expertise to do so. I would propose to the Clare Library a more comprehensive view of the task, that is, that they make it as an (annual?) time map showing the movement in the namesakes throughout the county at some suitable time interval, linked with births and deaths rather than just a static record of local frequencies, and if they could add the migrations out of the county both to elsewhere in Ireland and to overseas it would create a great understanding of our migration history both on a micro and macro scale. cheers jon On 02/01/2013, at 12:06 AM, Larry Brennan wrote: > Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: > > > > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland > & County Clare. > > > > Further information to follow. > > > > This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy > Community: > > > > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County > but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index > to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > > > > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to > East Clare and Feakle. > > If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. > > Barry to the Kilnamona area. > > Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > > > > Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within > the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed > into the project with their Parish of interest. > > > > What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > > > > Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. > Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > > > > We could then prepare a map showing the results. > > > > Just a though. > > > > Slán, > > > > Larry. > > > > =========================== > Try http://www.google.ie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Larry, I know that Clare County Library has plans to produce maps showing the relative distibution of surnames using the Combined List of Surnames data on the website at http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/surname_list_combined.htm . It's a very logical step because it "mines" the census, Griffith's, and Tithe Applotment data which has already been collected and tabulated, i.e. what one might call the spadework has already been done. Rainer Kosbi has recently developed a new version of his maps system which would allow him to show the distribution. This has been a long-time objective of the library and it is only recently that they have been in a position to develop this new service. As I understand it the new surname mapping should become available later this year (2013). Paddy Casey -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 01 January 2013 14:06 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS] Predominate Names in the Parishes of County Clare Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland & County Clare. Further information to follow. This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy Community: A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to East Clare and Feakle. If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. Barry to the Kilnamona area. Gallery to Ennistymon Area. Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. We could then prepare a map showing the results. Just a though. Slán, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great idea Larry! I cannot volunteer for this, but it sounds like a great idea. I have O'Laughlins, and a Mary Collins from Co. Clare. Mary might have been from Feakle, but my source for the origin of these people is from a woman whose daughter told me that, if she didn't have a good story to tell, she made one up. Happy New Year! Kate On Jan 1 2013, Larry Brennan wrote: >Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: > The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland >& County Clare.> > >Further information to follow. > >This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy >Community: > A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index >to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. > For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to >East Clare and Feakle. > >If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. >Barry to the Kilnamona area. > >Gallery to Ennistymon Area. > >Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within >the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed >into the project with their Parish of interest. > >What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. > >Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. >Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. > >We could then prepare a map showing the results. > >Just a thought. > >Slán, > >Larry. >=========================== >Try http://www.google.ie/> >------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Friend’s happy new year from County Clare: The Gathering & Ireland Reaching out Project is about to commence in Ireland & County Clare. Further information to follow. This programme s will have great advantage to us within the Genealogy Community: A lot of People with just Clare Roots will be trying to return to the County but it struck me to ask would there be any advantage if we compiled an index to predominate name associated with individual Parishes. For example if some one said to me they were Durack s I would direct them to East Clare and Feakle. If you were Clune I would guide you towards Clooney / Quin. Barry to the Kilnamona area. Gallery to Ennistymon Area. Would some one take on the co-ordinating of the most prominent names within the Parishes within the County and would there be individual who would feed into the project with their Parish of interest. What I recommend we establish the top 10 or 20 names within the Parish. Remember we have all the records available on the Clare Library site. Tithes, Griffiths, 1901 & 1911 Census. We could then prepare a map showing the results. Just a though. Slán, Larry.

Jeremiah O'Malley possibly listed as Darby Maly in parish records or 1831 record 833 Born ca1825 Parents Pat Maly and My Darcy. Of Balyhigh (near Killaloe) Sponsor Michael Darcy of Killaloe town Believe he had two bothers Michael and Patrick. They came with mother Mary to South Australia and possibly father pat Married Margaret Molony of Tiperryin 1854 Melbourne Then Mary ann O'Sullivan of Wales in 1866 At least 14 immediate descendants in South Aust. Sent from my iPad

Rita Nutile wrote: Patrick Boland married Catherine Peppard in Freakle Parish on FEB 28 or 29th in 1840 . She was from Newtown but I could not read the town for Patrick. Witnesses were Patrick Boland and Patrick Peppard. Marriage in Freakle Parish. They married into Lynch family of Tulla. Any information appreciated. They moved to NY and eventually Wisconsin where they are buried. Thank you so much, Rita Nutile

Sorry Christina .....a mistake on the name of the person who came to Victoria in 1857 it was Deborah Dundon nee Lynch not Bridget....sorry!!! Joan Hi Christina There were 5 children born to a Patrick Lynch from 1830 to 1844 from the St Senan's PR's, all with different mother's names, but 2 Patrick's born to 1. Patrick b 1830 Patrick & Mary McInerney with Daniel & Biddy Spellacy as sponsors. 2. Patrick b 1836 Patrick & Mary Donohoo with Stephen Baland and Mary Meakin as sponsors. No actual town or townland shown. 3. Mary 1842 to Patrick & Bridget Lynch nee Haneeven with John Casey & Mary O'Shea as sponsors. Monmore 4. Biddy 1844 to Patrick & Biddy Lynch nee Green with Mary Corry as sponsor. Monmore. 5. Mary 1830 to Patrick & Honr Lynch nee Enright with John Callihan & Honr O'Dea as sponsors. No place shown. My gg grandfather John b 1827 had a daughter, named Deborah Jane and I have a feeling but not able to prove it that the Deborah Lynch [b about 1803 to Michael Lynch and Bridget Moran?] who lived at The Glen, Kilrush, may have been sister to Patrick Lynch born about 1800, John's father, as Deborah was not a common name in the Kilrush area. Deborah Lynch b abt 1803 married Patrick Dundon 1823. Bridget came to Victoria, Australia in 1857 with her sons after her husband Patrick died. I have been in touch with descendants of the Dundon/an's and like me cannot prove the connection. One day I'll find the connection :-} or find John's mother and sibling's names. Cheers Joan ******************************** Were there no possible siblings born to anyone with the same name as the father? Christina Joan Birtles wrote: > I have transcribed all the LYNCH associated names from the Kilrush PR's [St > Senan's] which are on the Clare Library site but unfortunately they only > existed from late 1827 whereas my John was born June 1827 [as per his army > marriage record in India], so it would have been fantastic if the PR's were > just that 6 mths earlier. > > Thanks again Christina > Joan

Hi Christina There were 5 children born to a Patrick Lynch from 1830 to 1844 from the St Senan's PR's, all with different mother's names, but 2 Patrick's born to 1. Patrick b 1830 Patrick & Mary McInerney with Daniel & Biddy Spellacy as sponsors. 2. Patrick b 1836 Patrick & Mary Donohoo with Stephen Baland and Mary Meakin as sponsors. No actual town or townland shown. 3. Mary 1842 to Patrick & Bridget Lynch nee Haneeven with John Casey & Mary O'Shea as sponsors. Monmore 4. Biddy 1844 to Patrick & Biddy Lynch nee Green with Mary Corry as sponsor. Monmore. 5. Mary 1830 to Patrick & Honr Lynch nee Enright with John Callihan & Honr O'Dea as sponsors. No place shown. My gg grandfather John b 1827 had a daughter, named Deborah Jane and I have a feeling but not able to prove it that the Deborah Lynch [b about 1803 to Michael Lynch and Bridget Moran?] who lived at The Glen, Kilrush, may have been sister to Patrick Lynch born about 1800, John's father, as Deborah was not a common name in the Kilrush area. Deborah Lynch b abt 1803 married Patrick Dundon 1823. Bridget came to Victoria, Australia in 1857 with her sons after her husband Patrick died. I have been in touch with descendants of the Dundon/an's and like me cannot prove the connection. One day I'll find the connection :-} or find John's mother and sibling's names. Cheers Joan ******************************** Were there no possible siblings born to anyone with the same name as the father? Christina Joan Birtles wrote: > I have transcribed all the LYNCH associated names from the Kilrush PR's [St > Senan's] which are on the Clare Library site but unfortunately they only > existed from late 1827 whereas my John was born June 1827 [as per his army > marriage record in India], so it would have been fantastic if the PR's were > just that 6 mths earlier. > > Thanks again Christina > Joan

I have transcribed all the LYNCH associated names from the Kilrush PR's [St Senan's] which are on the Clare Library site but unfortunately they only existed from late 1827 whereas my John was born June 1827 [as per his army marriage record in India], so it would have been fantastic if the PR's were just that 6 mths earlier. Thanks again Christina Joan Well, it certainly would be nice if Clare's Church records were more availabe. What you have from Griffiths and Army records makes good sense. Chris Joan Birtles wrote: > I've found Patrick Lynch's [the name of John's father] in Kilrush town > [Griffiths& Tithe's] which is where I believe John came from as his army > record stated Kilrush, Kilrush, Co Clare which I've taken to be the town of > Kilrush, in Kilrush Co Clare. There was also a Patrick Lynch in Moanmore > South and North. > > Cheers and thanks again for such a quick reply. > Joan

Hi Christina Many thanks for that information and the LDS film numbers, however I've not been able to find the mother's name or siblings of my John Lynch who left Kilrush in 1848 or just prior to that although I've been searching for over 20 years. I was hoping there was some records prior to 1856. I've found Patrick Lynch's [the name of John's father] in Kilrush town [Griffiths & Tithe's] which is where I believe John came from as his army record stated Kilrush, Kilrush, Co Clare which I've taken to be the town of Kilrush, in Kilrush Co Clare. There was also a Patrick Lynch in Moanmore South and North. Cheers and thanks again for such a quick reply. Joan Sorry Joan...There are two more films to cover then entire time frame from 1856 to 1938. So... 819464 and the next two. v. 1. Kilrush Electoral Division continued. Family History Library BRITISH Film 819465 v. 1. Kilrush Electoral Division continued. Family History Library BRITISH Film 819466 Christina Christina Hunt wrote: > Joan, > This is the continuation of Griffiths Valuations: > v. 1. Kilrush Electoral Division, 1856-1938. Killimer Parish townlands: > Ballymacrinan, Carrowdotia North, Carrowdotia South, Clooneylissaun, > Dysert. Kilrush Parish townlands: Ballymacurtaun, Ballynote East, > Ballynote West, Ballyurra, Cappagh, Carnaun, Carrowncalla North, -1938 > Carrowncalla South, Drimna, Durha, Feagarroge, Kilrush, Leadmore East, > Leadmore West, Moanmore Lower, Moanmore North, Moanmore South, Moanmore > Upper, Moyne. Islands in the River Shannon: Illaunaclaggin, Illaunaclea, > Inishbig or Hog, Scattery. Town of Kilrush. > > Family History Library BRITISH Film #819464 (Can be ordered through your > local Family History Center (Mormon) > Christina > > Joan Birtles wrote: >> Hi Christina >> >> >> >> Coming in a bit late regarding the census records for Co Clare that are >> available on IGP but were there any census records for the town of >> Kilrush >> after the Griffiths please? >> >> >> -- Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

Hi Christina Coming in a bit late regarding the census records for Co Clare that are available on IGP but were there any census records for the town of Kilrush after the Griffiths please? Cheers and happy new year Joan Christina said: Revised Valuations or Canceled books carries on where Griffiths is thought to have stopped. But it didn't. These books show the head of household as they moved and died over a period of time. When there was a change the name is scratched out and the new tenant is added. You may get a widow added when her son dies. Or other family members. It is not conclusive and the best you might get is the wife's first name. We need something new to transcribe for IGP so I ordered the cancelled book covering the town of Miltown Malbay and some townlands. So, we shall see if any clues turn up. Christina

Were there no possible siblings born to anyone with the same name as the father? Christina Joan Birtles wrote: > I have transcribed all the LYNCH associated names from the Kilrush PR's [St > Senan's] which are on the Clare Library site but unfortunately they only > existed from late 1827 whereas my John was born June 1827 [as per his army > marriage record in India], so it would have been fantastic if the PR's were > just that 6 mths earlier. > > Thanks again Christina > Joan

Well, it certainly would be nice if Clare's Church records were more availabe. What you have from Griffiths and Army records makes good sense. Chris Joan Birtles wrote: > I've found Patrick Lynch's [the name of John's father] in Kilrush town > [Griffiths& Tithe's] which is where I believe John came from as his army > record stated Kilrush, Kilrush, Co Clare which I've taken to be the town of > Kilrush, in Kilrush Co Clare. There was also a Patrick Lynch in Moanmore > South and North. > > Cheers and thanks again for such a quick reply. > Joan