Hi, Can anyone on the list read Spanish ? I am researching a Clareman who spent time in South America. Two documents are in Spanish On the site http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/ead/pdf/mahon-0001-019.pdf The third last document (on the page) is a letter from a Don Carlos Brindeau, Constitucion 1835. The last document is a copy of the newspaper El Mercurio de Valparaiso, Julio 13 de 1836. Can anyone read them ? Thank you, Declan

Sorry, it is an old site that has been taken over by the Clare Library Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Rae&Greg Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:41 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] maloney Website still no good Rae Qld -----Original Message----- From: Jackie & Paul Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:22 AM To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] maloney Hi Sorry about the email address 1 too many “a”, it should be http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia Thank you for the "Is There More in Griffith's Valuation Than Just Names", suggestion. My mother’s family “Peter Power”came from Roscommon in 1840 so it will be handy. I will check the Clare Library site. Willa and Probate to 1925 are available at the Public Record Office Victoria online but none of my Maloney family are listed. Regards Jackie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, the Poor Law Unions are also the civil registration districts. Liscannor Catholic parish includes Kilmacrehy and Killaspuglonane civil parishes (Liscannor town and townland are in Kilmacrehy), all part of Ennistimon district. Diane -----Original Message----- From: pjsalis <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> To: Clare list <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 31, 2013 4:17 pm Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Liscannor civil registration district Hello List, Am I correct in thinking that the old Poor Law Unions generally became the Civil Registration Districts? And am I correct in thinking that Liscannor, Co. Clare, is in Ennistimon Civil Registration District? Thanks. PJ, in Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, Am I correct in thinking that the old Poor Law Unions generally became the Civil Registration Districts? And am I correct in thinking that Liscannor, Co. Clare, is in Ennistimon Civil Registration District? Thanks. PJ, in Texas

Website still no good Rae Qld -----Original Message----- From: Jackie & Paul Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:22 AM To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] maloney Hi Sorry about the email address 1 too many “a”, it should be http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia Thank you for the "Is There More in Griffith's Valuation Than Just Names", suggestion. My mother’s family “Peter Power”came from Roscommon in 1840 so it will be handy. I will check the Clare Library site. Willa and Probate to 1925 are available at the Public Record Office Victoria online but none of my Maloney family are listed. Regards Jackie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many of you may already be aware of this, but I just learned you can now order digital copies of images from LDS filmed records free of charge. Here's a link to the complete explanation: https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services Diane

Hi, You could try this site, 'valoff.ie' Maggie the Dub On 27 Jan 2013, at 15:58, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: Larry~ We used the Dublin Valuation Office several years ago as part of our research for my husband's County Waterford ancestors. There was a fee at the time of 40 Irish pounds. Is this a different source you reference which has no fees or the same we used for a fee?? We have 3 more properties to do this but our families still reside on them. It is the GV data to the time of purchase in 1878 we want to track. Please advise. Mary Ellen Chambers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Dianne John...Sydney Diane wrote.... At this point, I think still not on-line, you have to rent the film. Diane wrote... "They've all been filmed by the LDS."

Hi Diane Would you have any idea as to when the LDS will put them on their site, that is if they are not currently there for I may have missed them. John...Sydney Diane wrote.... "They've all been filmed by the LDS."

Thanks Pam I found a letter to go with the database which I haven't looked at for several years - It's dated 2007. Time I did some more work! Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Pam Dowling Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:48 PM To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] maloney Hi Jackie, That's a dead URL you're directing us to. The Clare Emigrants to Australasia database is now on the Clare Library website http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/emigration/clare_australasia_emigrants_by_surname.htm Kind regards Pam An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. At 27-01-2013 12:22 p.m. +1100, Jackie & Paul wrote: >Hi Sorry about the email address 1 too many >“a”, it should be >http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia >Thank you for the "Is There More in Griffith's >Valuation Than Just Names", suggestion. My >mother’s family “Peter Power”came from >Roscommon in 1840 so it will be handy. I will >check the Clare Library site. Willa and Probate >to 1925 are available at the Public Record >Office Victoria online but none of my Maloney >family are listed. Regards Jackie >------------------------------- To unsubscribe >from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understood that in the early days there was a deliberate policy in SA not to record the landings of immigrants. i don't know when it stopped. On a visit to adelaide a few years ago I went to the local genealogical society and found a number of records about O'Grady's including some who were well known to the Law cheers jon On 27/01/2013, at 5:56 PM, Lyn OGrady wrote: > I found that too, have checked NSW marriages, would be happier if I find how he arrived here in SA. Will be checking the Clare library when we arrive. Thanks > > Sent from my iPad > > On 25/01/2013, at 6:16 PM, "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > >> Lyn, >> >> If you follow my suggestions, you will find a Michael Grady arriving >> 1854 on both NSW Indexes Online and on Ancestry. >> >> My worry is the gap in both time and distance between 1854 arrival in >> Sydney and 1862 marriage in SA. You should check NSW BDM for possible >> marriages or death. >> >> As I said, Ancestry has two images. Both have mistranscriptions and both >> have extra data. Look at both. >> >> I believe he came from Kilfenora in Clare. He might also appear in >> emigrant lists at Clare library, but I don't think that will have much >> detail. >> >> I don't want to suggest possible answers based on family stories and be >> found wrong. He could have arrived as crew in Adelaide the week before his >> marriage. They may even have met on a boat. There's lots to check and >> eliminate. I also want you to enjoy the thrill of discovery and the reward >> for effort.. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have just added Glendine South and Cloobony ca. 1863. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/clare/land.htm More to come... Regards, Chris

Hi Jackie, That's a dead URL you're directing us to. The Clare Emigrants to Australasia database is now on the Clare Library website http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/emigration/clare_australasia_emigrants_by_surname.htm Kind regards Pam An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. At 27-01-2013 12:22 p.m. +1100, Jackie & Paul wrote: >Hi Sorry about the email address 1 too many >“a”, it should be >http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia >Thank you for the "Is There More in Griffith's >Valuation Than Just Names", suggestion. My >mother’s family “Peter Power”came from >Roscommon in 1840 so it will be handy. I will >check the Clare Library site. Willa and Probate >to 1925 are available at the Public Record >Office Victoria online but none of my Maloney >family are listed. Regards Jackie >------------------------------- To unsubscribe >from the list, please send an email to >IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found that too, have checked NSW marriages, would be happier if I find how he arrived here in SA. Will be checking the Clare library when we arrive. Thanks Sent from my iPad On 25/01/2013, at 6:16 PM, "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Lyn, > > If you follow my suggestions, you will find a Michael Grady arriving > 1854 on both NSW Indexes Online and on Ancestry. > > My worry is the gap in both time and distance between 1854 arrival in > Sydney and 1862 marriage in SA. You should check NSW BDM for possible > marriages or death. > > As I said, Ancestry has two images. Both have mistranscriptions and both > have extra data. Look at both. > > I believe he came from Kilfenora in Clare. He might also appear in > emigrant lists at Clare library, but I don't think that will have much > detail. > > I don't want to suggest possible answers based on family stories and be > found wrong. He could have arrived as crew in Adelaide the week before his > marriage. They may even have met on a boat. There's lots to check and > eliminate. I also want you to enjoy the thrill of discovery and the reward > for effort.. > > Peter > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the advise. Found the headstone at the cemetery today but it didn't say where he was from. Sent from my iPad On 25/01/2013, at 1:56 PM, "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Lyn, > > I keep saying, you'll probably find more detail in Australian records > than looking pre 1864 civil registrations in Ireland. > > Presumably from his Australian marriage and death records you have > Michael John Grady born c1831 with father Patrick. > > I'd first try to pin down migration records. If it's NSW, use Indexes > Online. If it's SA, try The Ship's List. You might also try convict records > if that's a suspicion. If you have an Ancestry subscription or can get > access via a local library or FHS centre, an historical records search > should find him. > > All the above sites can be found by a simple Google search. Otherwise > try my favourite Australian site www.coraweb.com.au. > > Make sure you look at all original images. NSW Indexes online has them > digitised. Ancestry has two different images. Don't believe their > transcriptions. Look at originals. You should find lots of extra clues. And > make sure you try O'Grady as well. > > Look also who, if any, might have accompanied him. There may also be > some clues in naming patterns of his children. > > Many things to consider. And a bit of work to be done. > > Peter > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes we are related to Stuart. He was a cousin to my husband's father. Our family is on the net ... McKay.familytree.id.au/family.php?famid=f218. I'll have a look at your link Sent from my iPad On 25/01/2013, at 6:48 AM, "Jon O'Grady" <jonogrady@iinet.net.au> wrote: > HI Lyn, Its nice to have another O'Grady on the list as we are few in number but have a deep Irish lineage. I am the administrator for the O'Grady DNA project. See http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/grady/ > I have put a number of links to O'Grady materials on the home page. I'm happy to try to answer any questions. > Are you related to Stuart O'Grady the famous cyclist? > My O'Grady's arrived in Melbourne in the late 1850s and where from Parteen > cheers > Jon o'Grady > sydney > On 24/01/2013, at 11:04 PM, Lyn O'Grady wrote: > >> Hi all, hope someone can help find the roots for this family as we're >> travelling to Co Clare from Australia in May this year and would like to >> absorb the countryside of his birthplace (if we can find out where it was!). >> >> Michael John Grady born about 1831 arrived in SA sometime before his >> marriage to Mary Anne O'Loughlin in 1862. He put Patrick as his father's >> name. He later became known as O'Grady. >> Family knowledge has it that he was born in Waughty Park county Clare but >> is there such a place, is it Aughty? He also said he landed in NSW and >> found his way to SA. If this is true, he may have been a government >> sponsored immigrant and had to work two years before being released. He >> possibly landed in 1854. Alternatively he may have been a convict (haven't >> found his name on the list) whatever we have little to go by. >> He was a labourer / publican. >> He and Mary Anne settled in Macclesfield in the Hills, sheep and wheat >> country but by 1874 moved to an industrial/workers' suburb of Adelaide >> called Thebarton with a family of 11 or 12 children. Nearby was a brewery >> and many small businesses. >> Knowing names may give a clue, there were names like Michael, Denis >> Francis, James Francis, Elizabeth Ellen, Patrick John, William, Edmund, >> Lawrence and Michael John. >> His fourth son, publican and bookmaker/horseowner. Michael John born 1874 >> is husband's line, he married Nora Mary Durkin in 1907 and only had 3 sons >> including my father in law. >> My research found that during land clearances in Ireland many families were >> pushed into the woods of the Aughty, am I correct? If I was to visit, >> would I see any of the ruins of the villages in the Aughty? >> >> regards, >> Lyn O'Grady >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Jon O'Grady > Sydney, Australia > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Michael John O'Grady born ca 1831 county Clare. Family knowledge is Waughty park but is there really a place of that name or perhaps an institution? I've only found Aughty. Coming to Ireland this year but am not confident we'll find anything. Sent from my iPad On 24/01/2013, at 9:53 PM, "Tony O'Grady" <tonyogrady26@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lyn, > > Thanks very much. Even the negative bits are a help. > > I wonder if we have any O'Grady connections in County Clare. My family came from Kilmaley. > > Best wishes, > Tony > > .................................................................................................................................... > On 24/01/2013, at 10:14 PM, "Lyn O'Grady" <ogradys05@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi there, I'm new to the list. I'm in South Australia. I've checked the >> births 1842-1906 and marriages 1842-1916 and no sign of Anthony McGrath. >> >> NSW BDM is online at >> http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=marriages >> >> VICTORIA BDM at >> https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria >> >> QUEENSLAND at >> https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/mainMenuSubmit.m?main_menu=IndexSearch >> >> WESTERN AUSTRALIA at >> http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx >> >> Hope this helps. >> Lyn O'Grady >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Tony O'Grady <tonyogrady26@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Could anyone on the list offer me any suggestions or information on the >>> following? >>> >>> Anthony McGRATH and Ellen McNAMARA. >>> >>> They lived in Clare. The family belief is that it was Kilrush. >>> >>> They had five children who migrated to Australia in the 1850s and married >>> there. These were: >>> c.1819 Susan (m. William Doherty) >>> c.1820 Patrick (m. Catherine Normoyle) >>> c.1824 John (m. Mary Watson) >>> c.1830 Jane (m. John McNamara) >>> c.1838 Bridget (m. Michael O'Grady) >>> >>> It is believed that there were other children who went to the USA. >>> >>> Tony O'Grady >>> Melbourne. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At this point, I think still not on-line, you have to rent the film. Diane -----Original Message----- From: John Walton <vabre@optusnet.com.au> To: irl-clare <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 2:02 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Griffiths Valuation & Cancellation Books Hi Diane Would you have any idea as to when the LDS will put them on their site, that is if they are not currently there for I may have missed them. John...Sydney Diane wrote.... "They've all been filmed by the LDS." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > Hello, I tried the " http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia" address but it wouldn't work. I wondering if there is an update on address please Regards Jenny > > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:22:30 +1100 > From: "Jackie & Paul" <phorsbur@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] maloney > To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <84F89DE4BFB34DEDA9E0841BBB6AFF8F@ownerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi > Sorry about the email address 1 too many ?a?, it should be > http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/clare/clareaustralasia > > Thank you for the "Is There More in Griffith's Valuation Than Just Names", > suggestion. > My mother?s family ?Peter Power?came from Roscommon in 1840 so it will be > handy. > > I will check the Clare Library site. > > Willa and Probate to 1925 are available at the Public Record Office > Victoria online but none of my Maloney family are listed. > Regards > Jackie > > > > > > > > >

They've all been filmed by the LDS. Diane -----Original Message----- From: St. John, Donald P <dstjohn@moravian.edu> To: irl-clare <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 12:25 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Griffiths Valuation & Cancellation Books Great news. But I imagine they are hard copies and not much available (yet) on the web? Still, I hadn't heard of them. Wonderful. Don St. John ________________________________________ From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan [bbs.ennis@eircom.net] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:03 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-clare-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Griffiths Valuation & Cancellation Books Primary Valuation of Ireland Cancelled Books The Cancelled Books are manuscript copies of Griffith's Valuation that were updated every 12-18 months to record any changes in the ownership, occupancy and value of the property between Griffith's Valuation and 1977, when rates were no longer charged on residential property. You can trace the occupancy of a specific address from the earliest point until 1970, unless otherwise requested. You can get copies of the cancelled books that record any changes to the ownership, occupancy, size or value of the property. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message