Thanks, Paddy, I see now at http://shop.osi.ie/Shop/images/Tourist/Images%20Catalogue%202013/eire_map.gif that all those maps you listed do include parts of Clare. My vision was too limited. And the link you gave to ourlibrary.ca was a gold mine of info. Thanks for that. PJ > PJ, > > The Discovery maps which cover Clare are 51, 52, 53, 57, 58, 59, 63, 64, > 65. > > > See "Paper Maps and Documents" at > http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1548&sid=1aaef429ff4d924 > 6e5b80f6f6f7d03c4 for further information including links to some of the > companies that ship worldwide. > > See http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/maps/index.htm for historical > maps of Clare (including the 1842 Ordnance Survey maps) which are very > useful for Clare genealogical research. > > Paddy

Josie and List, Your post about your upcoming trip to Ireland took me back to the three-week trip my parents and I took around the country in 1984 -- a week in Dublin-Dun Laoghaire, a week on a self-drive houseboat up and down the River Shannon, and a week in a house by the sea near Kenmare in Co. Cork. I'm a map freak, so beforehand I bought and for months pored over the Ordnance Survey maps for those areas, having enormous fun planning our daily car trips around the regions. Just last week I unpacked some of my memorabilia from that trip. Among those things were all my Irish OS maps. On deciding what memorabilia I could bear parting with, I found myself saving the maps and discarding much of the other stuff I'd collected and carried around with me as I moved house several times since '84. My point: If you don't already know about these maps, I urge you to consider buying the relevant ones for your trip. They come in several scales. I especially like the 1:50,000 scaled ones -- they have details that I've never found on any maps for the U.S. A Web search tells me that the Irish OS maps are available at http://www.osi.ie/Home.aspx . I believe the Discovery Series maps are in the scale I liked best, and that maps 51, 57, and 58 cover Co. Clare. In a quick Web search I didn't find anyplace in the US that sells the maps, but maybe someone else can suggest a US source. PJ in Texas

Hi list, In reviewing notes before my trip to Kilrush, Kilkee & surrounding areas of the Loophead (eg. Dough, Donoughboy, Ballyonan, Lisdeen, etc.) I came across this 1821 Freeholders list . My question is this: What is the relationship between a Tenant and the Freeholder? Example; TENANT, Daniel PURTELL; FREEHOLDERs: Michael, Anthony, Thomas & Connor COLLINS Place of Abode: Donoughboy Landlord: George FITZGERALD This is in reference to my search for my Maternal Gr-Gr-Grandfather, Michael COLLINS whose wife was Joanna PURCELL. He is known to have a brother Anthony COLLINS and a sister, Honora COLLINS O'BRIEN (Cornelius). I suspect that Thomas & Connor (Red) COLLINS are brothers as well as they are always listed with Michael or Anthony. (A James, John, Patrick "Patt" & a William are around the same areas as well). This is from comparisons of Griffiths Evaluations & Tithe Applotments. (Thanks to the wonderful Co. Clare Library site!) There is also a definite connection to MAGNERS from these areas though I suspect only as friends not kin. This connection was evident in St. Louis, MO, USA where Michael's son John & Anthony's sons Hugh & Anthony, born in Kilkee, emigrated and lived together by the early 1850s. In the 1860s, the known COLLINS & O'BRIEN cousins settled in Davenport, Scott Co. IA. One cousin, Nancy Ann COLLINS m. Richard ENRIGHT also from KILKEE. I would appreciate any suggestions as I prepare for my trip to the SW of Co. Clare. Jo Banks

Clara, If you could locate the diocese they were in in MA (or narrow it down to two or three) you might find some help working through the chancery office. It may cost a little but there are independents known to the chancery people willing to do the grunt work and besides more material is coming online. I had help from a New Jersey diocese in my search. Good luck. Don St. John ________________________________________ From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CMere85162@aol.com [CMere85162@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:03 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Casey from Kilfenora Thank you Diane , I was beginning to lose faith because in spite of the memorial to James in Holliston when there was no actual record of his death. A Memorial would be expensive and I could find no record of a wife either. Without being able to get back to MA and go through the church records myself I was starting to think that there had been two Casey families. The oldest son from the 1st marriage "John" did go Chicago and married there in 1895 to a Catherine Mulvihill. I'm not sure why he would be there at that date. He and the 1st born Mary were born in Ireland in 1870 and 1872. I haven't been able to find anything yet on Patricks 2nd wife Julia O'Neil b.1876 Ireland she would be my Greatgrandmother on that branch. Regards, Clara You figure out who is who by cross-referencing other records, like church and civil and revised Griffith's valuations. Kilshanny church records haven't been filmed by the LDS but Kilfenora have, beginning in 1836, so Patrick's baptism should be there, as well as any children he had in Ireland. If Patrick was born in 1847, his father would have been old enough to be in Griffith's, which tends to confirm that he was James, not Daniel. When you post in the future, be sure to put in a subject line so people searching the archives can find your post. Something like Casey from Kilfenora and O'Grady from Kilshanny would be very helpful. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John probably went to Chicago in the 1890s for the same reason my grandparents did, it was a boomtown, the fastest-growing city in America after it held the World's Columbian Exposition. Not all deaths were recorded. I'd put more faith in the memorial too. Diane -----Original Message----- From: CMere85162 <CMere85162@aol.com> To: irl-clare <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 9:05 pm Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Casey from Kilfenora Thank you Diane , I was beginning to lose faith because in spite of the memorial to James in Holliston when there was no actual record of his death. A Memorial would be expensive and I could find no record of a wife either. Without being able to get back to MA and go through the church records myself I was starting to think that there had been two Casey families. The oldest son from the 1st marriage "John" did go Chicago and married there in 1895 to a Catherine Mulvihill. I'm not sure why he would be there at that date. He and the 1st born Mary were born in Ireland in 1870 and 1872. I haven't been able to find anything yet on Patricks 2nd wife Julia O'Neil b.1876 Ireland she would be my Greatgrandmother on that branch. Regards, Clara You figure out who is who by cross-referencing other records, like church and civil and revised Griffith's valuations. Kilshanny church records haven't been filmed by the LDS but Kilfenora have, beginning in 1836, so Patrick's baptism should be there, as well as any children he had in Ireland. If Patrick was born in 1847, his father would have been old enough to be in Griffith's, which tends to confirm that he was James, not Daniel. When you post in the future, be sure to put in a subject line so people searching the archives can find your post. Something like Casey from Kilfenora and O'Grady from Kilshanny would be very helpful. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tony, Some names the Callinan family married into - Conneely - McNamara (from Clouna) - Murray - Guthrie - Lacey - Hillary - O'Loughlin and Geraghty. Ballytarsna - Slievenagry - Boghill - Kilfenora. Cheers Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony O'Grady" <tonyogrady26@gmail.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Kilshanny/Kilfenora local history > Hi Jackie, > No responses so far. > > What names are you interested in? My main ones are McGrath, Doherty and > McNamara and, to a lesser extent, Mulqueeney, O'Loughlin and Ryan. > > Tony O'Grady > Melbourne.

Thanks Donal. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Kilshanny/Kilfenora local history > Kilfenora, A History, by John Flanagan. > First edition 1991 > Reprint for the Millenium 2000 > CONTENTS: > Foreword : > Pre-Christian Times : : > The Christian Period : : > St. Fachtnan's Well : : > Kilfenora Abbey : : > Bishops in Kilfenora : : > Monuments and Tombs > The High Crosses : : > Protestant Bishops : > Raids on Kilfenora Area : > The Penal Days : > The Name Kilfenora : : > Description of Kilfenora Parish > Schools : : : > Castles : : : > Phosphate Mineral : : > Priests of Kilfenora : : > Ceili Music : : : > Burren Display Centre > Appendix: Bishop Patrick Fallon > Appendix: Ballykeal Cist Grave > Poem "Lovely Ballyshanny" :

Thank you Diane , I was beginning to lose faith because in spite of the memorial to James in Holliston when there was no actual record of his death. A Memorial would be expensive and I could find no record of a wife either. Without being able to get back to MA and go through the church records myself I was starting to think that there had been two Casey families. The oldest son from the 1st marriage "John" did go Chicago and married there in 1895 to a Catherine Mulvihill. I'm not sure why he would be there at that date. He and the 1st born Mary were born in Ireland in 1870 and 1872. I haven't been able to find anything yet on Patricks 2nd wife Julia O'Neil b.1876 Ireland she would be my Greatgrandmother on that branch. Regards, Clara You figure out who is who by cross-referencing other records, like church and civil and revised Griffith's valuations. Kilshanny church records haven't been filmed by the LDS but Kilfenora have, beginning in 1836, so Patrick's baptism should be there, as well as any children he had in Ireland. If Patrick was born in 1847, his father would have been old enough to be in Griffith's, which tends to confirm that he was James, not Daniel. When you post in the future, be sure to put in a subject line so people searching the archives can find your post. Something like Casey from Kilfenora and O'Grady from Kilshanny would be very helpful. Diane

Great find. I thought she must have been there somewhere. :) Chris Patricia Hanenburg wrote: > Bridget McNamara Considney (Considine) and Patt Considine were on the same ship! > Different manifest line numbers though; Bridget was 0005, Patrick 0022. They both arrived on April 2, 1905 on the Celtic from Queenstown. > > Strange they didn't sign in 'together' like Patrick and his cousin did. > > Found Bridget McNamara Considine's arrival at Ellis Island through familysearch.org and cross referenced with Ellis Island records. This was also her second trip to Bayonne, her first being in 1904 as per Ellis Island (haven't found either one's first passage info yet) and she listed Kilrush as last residence. She also claimed to be an American citizen then it was crossed out and Ireland written in it's place and arrived with what looks like $105. in her pocket. If true, a lot of money at that time. Probably more like $10.50. Name written down as McNamara and crossed it out and w rote Considine which was misread as below. Maybe they met in New Jersey or Chicago and went back to Kilrush to get married then returned to the US. She has more names on records.... at least I know for sure she was married to Patrick Considine in Ireland and her last residence was in Kilrush! Will keep you posted. > > First Name: Bridget > Last Name: McNamara Considney > Ethnicity: US Citizen > Last Place of Residence: Kilrush > Date of Arrival: Apr 02, 1905 > Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: S > Ship of Travel: Celtic > Port of Departure: Queenstown > Manifest Line Number: 0005 > > > Given Name: > Bridget > Surname: McNamara Considney > Last Place of Residence: Kilrush > Event Date: 02 Apr 1905 > Age: 24y > Nationality: America, Irish > Departure Port: Queenstown > Arrival Port: New York > Gender: Female > Marital Status: S > Citizenship Status: > Ship Name: Celtic > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bridget McNamara Considney (Considine) and Patt Considine were on the same ship!   Different manifest line numbers though; Bridget was 0005, Patrick 0022.  They both arrived on April 2, 1905 on the Celtic from Queenstown. Strange they didn't sign in 'together' like Patrick and his cousin did. Found  Bridget McNamara Considine's arrival at Ellis Island through familysearch.org and cross referenced with Ellis Island records. This was also her second trip to Bayonne, her first being in 1904 as per Ellis Island (haven't found either one's first passage info yet) and she listed Kilrush as last residence.  She also claimed to be an American citizen then it was crossed out and Ireland written in it's place and arrived with what looks like $105. in her pocket. If true, a lot of money at that time.  Probably more like $10.50. Name written down as McNamara and crossed it out and wrote Considine which was misread as below. Maybe they met in New Jersey or Chicago and went back to Kilrush to get married then returned to the US.  She has more names on records.... at least I know for sure she was married to Patrick Considine in Ireland and her last residence was in Kilrush!  Will keep you posted.  First Name: Bridget Last Name: McNamara Considney Ethnicity: US Citizen Last Place of Residence: Kilrush Date of Arrival: Apr 02, 1905 Age at Arrival:  24y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:  S   Ship of Travel: Celtic Port of Departure: Queenstown Manifest Line Number: 0005 Given Name: Bridget Surname: McNamara Considney Last Place of Residence: Kilrush Event Date: 02 Apr 1905 Age: 24y Nationality: America, Irish Departure Port: Queenstown Arrival Port: New York Gender: Female Marital Status: S Citizenship Status: Ship Name: Celtic

Hi Christine, as you are now member of the Clare group, just post all the info you have there, and thennstate what in particular you are looking for. There is sure to be someone who can help... Glad to have you with us. Chris > Dear Chris, > > I have been a part of Jane's list for many years and would like > to be a part of the Facebook page also. May I please join? My maternal > family is from Clare,Miltown Malbay area. My paternal > family is from Co. Cork and are so much more difficult to locate. My > grandfather was John OBrien, my grandmother was > Annie Leahy. Thank you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Goopy > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:58 PM > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Leyden > Chris Goopy cgoopy@optusnet.com.au http://www.flickr.com/photos/crissouli/ http://thatmomentintime-crissouli.blogspot.com/ http://astheywere.blogspot.com/ http://irishgraves.blogspot.com.au/ https://thebackfenceofgenealogy-crissouli.blogspot.com.au Lend just $25, help others to help themselves http://kiva.org/invitedto/genealogists/by/chris6526

You figure out who is who by cross-referencing other records, like church and civil and revised Griffith's valuations. Kilshanny church records haven't been filmed by the LDS but Kilfenora have, beginning in 1836, so Patrick's baptism should be there, as well as any children he had in Ireland. If Patrick was born in 1847, his father would have been old enough to be in Griffith's, which tends to confirm that he was James, not Daniel. When you post in the future, be sure to put in a subject line so people searching the archives can find your post. Something like Casey from Kilfenora and O'Grady from Kilshanny would be very helpful. Diane -----Original Message----- From: CMere85162 <CMere85162@aol.com> To: irl-clare <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 13, 2013 7:40 pm Subject: [IRL-CLARE] (no subject) Thank you so much for responding Tony I haven't seen Griffiths evaluation and I'm not sure how I could determine who was who from that. I know my grandfathers parents for certain because of records from the Church and State in MA but trying to move back from there is a journey that seems to be full of obstacles to trip over. There is a monument in St Mary's Cemetary in Holliston, that claims that Patrick Casey is from Kilfenora and Mary O'Grady is from Kilshanny. it also refers to a James Casey who is supposed to be Patricks mother and a Margaret who is supposed to be his mother There is a death date for James but I can't confirm it with the Church or State There's also a Daniel I've found in my searches who could be Patricks father. So far I've been unable to find definitive proof for either James or Daniel, other than that in his second marriage he had a son and named him James. In his first marriage he had a John, Patrick, Henry and Joseph. "Hi CMere85162, Have you looked at the Griffith Valuation (1855)? It has the following entries: CASEY, Anthony at Doon, Kilfenora Anthony at Kilfenora. Kilfenora Edmund at Kilfenora, Kilfenora James at Ballytarsna, Kilshanny Michael at Doon, Kilfenora O'GRADY/GRADY Captain at Caherminnaun, Kilfenora Daniel at Ballygoonan, Kilfenora Hannah at Kilfenora, Kilfenora Michael at Fanta Glebe, Kilfenora All of these people lived within a few kilometres of each other Of these, I know that Michael GRADY migrated to Australia and that there is some mention of him and his companions in Ch.2 of "Oceans of Consolation" by David Fitzpatrick. Tony O'Grady Melbourne" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Clare Leyden Researchers, I have Chicago information for the family of Richard , Thomas and D.P. Leyden whose parents were Thomas & Mary of Tullig (Tulla), Co. Clare. Richard m. Margaret MURRAY, daughter of Michael and Mary, born Rahona near Carrigahold, Co. Clare. After Richard's death in March 1888, Margaret/Maggie m. Patrick J. MASON who was b. bet. 1860-70 in Scariff, Co. Clare to Michael MASON and Catherine O'BRIEN. Let me know if I can provide further information. Judie Mason Chicago, IL On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Chris Goopy <cgoopy@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > June, we have folk interested in Leyden involved in the County Clare Facebook group.. If you would like to join you're welcome, or with your permission, I could pass on your details and have one of the Leyden researchers to contact you. > > Happy for you to contact me directly if you would like to. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPad > > On 13/06/2013, at 1:49 AM, "June Lachler " <junela@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi >> I am looking for rela tives of Bridget Leyden b. 182 4 in Ennistymon. She was a school mistress in the poor house in 1843-45. I found minutes of her mentioned. She married Austin Carrigg & they came to USA NEW YORK 1847. I can not find her marriage. I am also trying to find her parents. Two of her sisters came to USA, Mary & Kate but I assume they got married but I don't know to who? I would appreciate any help. (Snip) > > > >

Dear Chris, I have been a part of Jane's list for many years and would like to be a part of the Facebook page also. May I please join? My maternal family is from Clare,Miltown Malbay area. My paternal family is from Co. Cork and are so much more difficult to locate. My grandfather was John OBrien, my grandmother was Annie Leahy. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Goopy Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:58 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Leyden Hi Katie, you will have seen the message I sent to June... I am happy o pass on your details for you also, or if you would like to join the Facebook group, let me know and I'll send you an invite. For anyone wishing to join the Clare group on Facebook, you do have to be a member of Facebook. It is a closed group, so if you wish, you can have no other activity rather than the genealogical group. However, this is also a very good forum. Chris > I'm also descended from a Layden/Leyden Co Clare family. > > Katie > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Goopy > Sent: 12 Jun 2013 18:52:52 GMT > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Leyden > > June, we have folk interested in Leyden involved in the County Clare > Facebook group.. If you would like to join you're welcome, or with your > permission, I could pass on your details and have one of the Leyden > researchers to contact you. > > Happy for you to contact me directly if you would like to. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPad > > On 13/06/2013, at 1:49 AM, "June Lachler " <junela@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi >> I am looking for rela tives of Bridget Leyden b. 182 4 in Ennistymon. >> She was a school mistress in the poor house in 1843-45. I found minutes >> of her mentioned. She married Austin Carrigg & they came to USA NEW YORK >> 1847. I can not find her marriage. I am also trying to find her parents. >> Two of her sisters came to USA, Mary & Kate but I assume they got married >> but I don't know to who? I would appreciate any help. (Snip) > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for responding Tony I haven't seen Griffiths evaluation and I'm not sure how I could determine who was who from that. I know my grandfathers parents for certain because of records from the Church and State in MA but trying to move back from there is a journey that seems to be full of obstacles to trip over. There is a monument in St Mary's Cemetary in Holliston, that claims that Patrick Casey is from Kilfenora and Mary O'Grady is from Kilshanny. it also refers to a James Casey who is supposed to be Patricks mother and a Margaret who is supposed to be his mother There is a death date for James but I can't confirm it with the Church or State There's also a Daniel I've found in my searches who could be Patricks father. So far I've been unable to find definitive proof for either James or Daniel, other than that in his second marriage he had a son and named him James. In his first marriage he had a John, Patrick, Henry and Joseph. "Hi CMere85162, Have you looked at the Griffith Valuation (1855)? It has the following entries: CASEY, Anthony at Doon, Kilfenora Anthony at Kilfenora. Kilfenora Edmund at Kilfenora, Kilfenora James at Ballytarsna, Kilshanny Michael at Doon, Kilfenora O'GRADY/GRADY Captain at Caherminnaun, Kilfenora Daniel at Ballygoonan, Kilfenora Hannah at Kilfenora, Kilfenora Michael at Fanta Glebe, Kilfenora All of these people lived within a few kilometres of each other Of these, I know that Michael GRADY migrated to Australia and that there is some mention of him and his companions in Ch.2 of "Oceans of Consolation" by David Fitzpatrick. Tony O'Grady Melbourne"

You're in now...hope you received the notification/welcome... Once you click on the join, we receive notification that you would like to join. We check that all looks well and sign you in. Hope you enjoy the group. Chris > Greetings Chris > I have found the group on facebook, but am unsure of how to get signed in > when I reach the site, what do I do??? > Patrick > > Chris Goopy cgoopy@optusnet.com.au http://thatmomentintime-crissouli.blogspot.com/ http://astheywere.blogspot.com/ http://irishgraves.blogspot.com.au/ http://thebackfenceofgenealogy-crissouli.blogspot.com.au/

Greetings Chris I have found the group on facebook, but am unsure of how to get signed in when I reach the site, what do I do??? Patrick

Hi Kate, I think that you have a big job ahead of you. There are over 200 O'Loughlin entries and about 50 Torpey ones in the 1855 Clare Griffiths Valuation. You will need some good leads to narrow down the field. Good luck, Tony ............................................................................................................................................. > Tony: > > I have O'Laughlins/O'Loughlins who moved from Co. Clare to the US (to New > York state, then Minnesota and Wisconsin). > > Michael O'Laughlin was reportedly b. Sept 1828 in Co.Clare, possibly in > Dalyschench P.O., Bodyke. His father was Patrick; name of mother unknown. > > The person who wrote down Michael's birthplace was not too reliable. But I > feel sure he came from Clare because the 1860 U.S. Census for New York > State says he and his first wife Ellen Torpy were both born in Co. Clare. > --that is the only census I have found that gives the county in Ireland > where someone was born. > > Happy hunting, > Kate >

Hi CMere85162, Have you looked at the Griffith Valuation (1855)? It has the following entries: CASEY, Anthony at Doon, Kilfenora Anthony at Kilfenora. Kilfenora Edmund at Kilfenora, Kilfenora James at Ballytarsna, Kilshanny Michael at Doon, Kilfenora O'GRADY/GRADY Captain at Caherminnaun, Kilfenora Daniel at Ballygoonan, Kilfenora Hannah at Kilfenora, Kilfenora Michael at Fanta Glebe, Kilfenora All of these people lived within a few kilometres of each other Of these, I know that Michael GRADY migrated to Australia and that there is some mention of him and his companions in Ch.2 of "Oceans of Consolation" by David Fitzpatrick. Tony O'Grady Melbourne On 13/06/2013, at 12:17 PM, CMere85162@aol.com wrote: > I am really excited to see these names, my grandfathers parents were > supposed to have been from there. His father Patrick Casey b. abt 6 May 1847 > Parish of Kilfenora and his stepmother, Mary O'Grady b. 1844 in Kilshanny. > They came to the U.S. in the early 1870's lived in Holliston, MA and Patrick > worked in a Boot Shop and later as a farmer. I've never been able to locate > any records on them from Ireland. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patrick, by all means... just go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/countyclare/ and one of us will sign you in. If you're not yet a member of Facebook, you will have to join first... Look forward to welcoming you. Chris > Greetings > May I also ask for an invite to join the Clare facebook group > I descend from Patrick and Mary Rochford of Tulla Co. Clare > Patrick Callaghan > > Chris Goopy cgoopy@optusnet.com.au http://www.flickr.com/photos/crissouli/ http://thatmomentintime-crissouli.blogspot.com/ http://astheywere.blogspot.com/ http://irishgraves.blogspot.com.au/ https://thebackfenceofgenealogy-crissouli.blogspot.com.au