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I am researching John MCNAMARA b c1815 who married Hanora CONOLE bc1825. Their children were Michael who married Mary GILLICK(my grandparents) Patrick. Margaret, Susan,Ellen & Ann. The children all emigrated to Vic, Australia then on to New Zealand except Ellen (Mrs BRADY) who stayed in Australia.John had a sister Hanora b1801 who married  John CULLINAN.Thanks Helen McNamara Christchurch New Zealand

Here's the only Bennett in the Clare Tithe Applotments, done shortly before Ellen was born, Surname Forename Townland/Street Parish County Year Bennett John Coolastike Kiltenanlea Clare 1824 and here's all the Bennetts in Griffith's Valuation, done shortly after she left for Canada: Surname First Name Townland Parish County Following are the exact matches: Bennett Edward Ballycar Tomfinlough Clare Bennett John Town of Scarriff Moynoe Road Tomgraney Clare Bennett Mary Town of Scarriff Chapel Lane Tomgraney Clare Bennett Elizabeth Doonass Kiltenanlea Clare Bennett Mrs. Elizabeth Coollisteige Kiltenanlea Clare Bennett Rev. James Cassarnagh Kilmurry Clare Bennett Rev. James Knock Kilmurry Clare Bennett Catherine Cloonlara Kiltenanlea Clare Bennett Richard Coolmeen Kilfiddane Clare You might check parish records for her baptism/christening. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Roberta <jrkaval@shaw.ca> To: IRL-CLARE <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 27, 2013 12:56 pm Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Ellen Bennett I am looking for anyone researching this person. I believe she was born in Clare but not positive. She was born about 1831 and came to Canada in 1850 and married Henry Emes in 1851.Thanks, Roberta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for anyone researching this person. I believe she was born in Clare but not positive. She was born about 1831 and came to Canada in 1850 and married Henry Emes in 1851.Thanks, Roberta

Margaret, I think the surname comes up fairly regularly. I'd suggest you search the list archives. Another site I'd check is Clare Library. http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm Sometimes even Googling the surname brings surprising results. Peter

This is my first query on the mailing list. I would like some information, if possible, about a family name O'Hehir from County Clare. The members of the family that I have some knowledge about are Ann O'Hehir, aged sixty years, Bridget O'Hehir, aged 20 years, Margaret or Mary O'Hehir, aged 19 years and Honora O'Hehir, age unknown. Each one of these ladies were on the convict transport, Earl Grey, and disembarked at Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land. They were convicted of stealing and/or receiving two cows on 27 February, 1849 at Clare. Each was sentenced to transportation for seven years and they embarked on the Earl Grey at Kingstown, Dublin arriving at Hobart Town on 9 May, 1850. They O'Hehir women committed their crime during the height of the Great Potato Famine and, luckily for all but Honora who died on the voyage, their arrival at Hobart Town was the beginning of a new life. Bridget and Margaret married and produced large families. What happened to their mother, Ann is unknown. Looking forward to receiving some information. Margaret Wise, Adventure Bay, Tasmania, Australia

Hi, Many O'Hehirs dropped the 'O' so you have to look at Hehir and Hare as well as O'Hehir and O'Hare, Hehir is very common in Co. Clare so have you searched all documents that might identify the parish or village - marriage and death certs, cemetery records and inscriptions ann possible newspaper obituary, Declan P.S. 'The Clare Journal' might have had a report on the court case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Wise" <madge47@netspace.net.au> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] A Hehir or O'Hehir family from County Clare > This is my first query on the mailing list. I would like some > information, if possible, about a family name O'Hehir from County Clare. > The members of the family that I have some knowledge about are Ann > O'Hehir, aged sixty years, Bridget O'Hehir, aged 20 years, Margaret or > Mary O'Hehir, aged 19 years and Honora O'Hehir, age unknown. Each one of > these ladies were on the convict transport, Earl Grey, and disembarked at > Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land. They were convicted of stealing and/or > receiving two cows on 27 February, 1849 at Clare. Each was sentenced to > transportation for seven years and they embarked on the Earl Grey at > Kingstown, Dublin arriving at Hobart Town on 9 May, 1850. > > They O'Hehir women committed their crime during the height of the Great > Potato Famine and, luckily for all but Honora who died on the voyage, > their arrival at Hobart Town was the beginning of a new life. Bridget and > Margaret married and produced large families. What happened to their > mother, Ann is unknown. > > Looking forward to receiving some information. > > Margaret Wise, > Adventure Bay, > Tasmania, Australia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6501 - Release Date: 07/18/13 >

I have a death cert (civil registration) that turned out not to be the Mary I was looking for so passing on the info on it: 1910 DEATHS Registered in the District of Ennis (Nor?) in the Union of Ennis in the County of Clare No.: 266 Date and Place of Death: Aug 21, 1910; Workhouse, Ennis Name and Surname: Mary Cullinan from Clare Hill Sex: Female Condition: Widow Age last birthday: 82 years Rank, Profession or Occupation: widow of a laborer Certified cause of death and duration of illness: Sinile Deeky?, certified Signature, Qualification & Residence of Informant: Thomas O'Torplen, Occupier of Workhouse When Registered: September 19, 1910 If this person is in your family, if you email me off the list, I will send you the scan of the certificate. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hope that now you have joined the Facebook Co Clare group, someone will be able to help. Post your requests there, Joanne, and we'll do our best. Chris

Dear Larry, Thanks, as I had not been on this site before. Unfortunately those I am looking for are about 1810 to 1830. I did notice though that one of the transcribers was a David Kenny and sometimes Canny was transposed as Kenny. I wonder if any connection. Joanne. On 10 Jul 2013, at 14:53, "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> wrote: > Joanne, > > Did you go to Ennis Parish & Check out Canny as Fathers & Mothers Name in > Marriages & Births. > > http://www.ennisparish.com/genealogy/ > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joanne Howard" <joanne_gai_howard@yahoo.co.uk> > To: "IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com" <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:21 PM > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Joining Facebook for County Clare > > >> Dear Chris, >> >> I have an interest in the Canny family from Ennis County Clare and was >> wondering if I could be included in your Facebook forum and if anyone else >> may be researching this family. >> >> With regards, >> >> Joanne Howard. >> . >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joanne, Did you go to Ennis Parish & Check out Canny as Fathers & Mothers Name in Marriages & Births. http://www.ennisparish.com/genealogy/ Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Howard" <joanne_gai_howard@yahoo.co.uk> To: "IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com" <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Joining Facebook for County Clare > Dear Chris, > > I have an interest in the Canny family from Ennis County Clare and was > wondering if I could be included in your Facebook forum and if anyone else > may be researching this family. > > With regards, > > Joanne Howard. > . > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Chris, I have an interest in the Canny family from Ennis County Clare and was wondering if I could be included in your Facebook forum and if anyone else may be researching this family. With regards, Joanne Howard. .

Thanks Diane and Peter for your assistance. Further information on the O'Callaghans and Fennells arriving in Adelaide as follows: Patrick Fennell sponsored my Great Grandfather Patrick O'Callaghan who arrived at Adelaide on the Sir Thomas Gresham ship on 19 March 1854. Patrick O'Callaghan's wife (Johanna nee Hartigan) had arrived earlier on the ship David Malcolm listed as Johanna Hartigan and was also sponsored by Patrick Fennell. It is thought that Patrick O'Callaghan and Johanna Hartigan had married in Ireland before departing for Australia. On the shipping list for the Sir Thomas Gresham ship Patrick O'Callaghan was listed beside John O'Callaghan who is possibly a brother of Patrick O'Callaghan. Patrick Fennell married Mary O'Callaghan on 19 June 1848 at Adelaide and they had 6 children Stephen, Denis Eugene, Honora, Thomas, Eugene and Mary. It is possible that Mary O'Callaghan was Patrick O'Callaghan's sister or a close relative. Mary O'Callaghan arrived at Adelaide on the Britannia ship on 24 October 1846. Patrick O'Callaghan's sponsor to Adelaide, Patrick Fennell, was 25 years old when he arrived at Adelaide on the Duke of Roxburghe ship and embarked with his father (Stephen Fennell age 45 years) and mother (Margaret - nee Downey age 44 years) and siblings on 26 July 1838. Patrick Fennell's siblings that arrived with him were Dennis, Stephen, John, Mary Ann and Thomas. The Duke of Roxburghe sailed from Portsmouth (England). Terry -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-clare-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2013 5:00 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DELETE all extra text in the Digest Today's Topics: 1. Fennell and O'Callaghan (Terrence O'Callaghan) 2. Re: Fennell and O'Callaghan (Peter R Booth) 3. Re: Fennell and O'Callaghan (dlculhane@cs.com) 4. Re: Fennell and O'Callaghan (Peter R Booth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:50:21 +0800 From: "Terrence O'Callaghan" <terryoc@netspace.net.au> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan To: "IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com" <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <867E4E82-823D-48E9-9D94-BF50C4D726C8@netspace.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My great grandfather Patrick O'Callaghan and his wife emigrated from County Clare to Adelaide, South Australia, during 1854 and they were sponsored under an emigration scheme by Patrick Fennell who at the time was married to Mary O'Callaghan and they lived near Adelaide. I would like to know more about the O'Callaghans and the Fennells particularly their families in Ireland as I have been unable to identify where they lived in County Clare, their parents, or how Patrick O'Callaghan and Patrick Fennell got to England to catch their ships to Australia. Terrence O'Callaghan PO Box 730 Balwyn, Victoria 3103 Australia Email: terryoc@netspace.net.au Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:35:41 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000d01ce6c07$32da47e0$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Terrence, You've done well if you've found immigration papers to South Australia. A lot were destroyed in a flood of the Torrens River. Do you have the name of the ship? Were there others from Clare aboard?. When did Patrick Fennell arrive? From what you're saying Mary O'Callaghan married Patrick Fennell and her brother Patrick O'Callaghan married ???. Unfortunately, I think you'll find more in Australian records than you will in Ireland. Look for death records of both couple or you may need to buy death certificates. That should give parents. You can try Clare library, but most of the record only give heads of household rather than family groups. And because births and marriages predate 1864 civil registrations you need to know a townland, religion and parish before looking in Ireland. And in most cases it requires a personal visit to Dublin or paying a local researcher. Also check migration lists at Clare Library on the off chance somebody has transcribed any SA passenger lists. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:01:27 -0400 (EDT) From: dlculhane@cs.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8D03A2A50BE8BC8-1534-1A42D@webmail-m206.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To narrow down where they came from in Clare, look on the Tithe Applotments on the National Archives site and the Griffith's index on failteromhat.com for civil parishes that had those surnames. Then note on a parish map of Clare where they seemed to cluster. Then convert to Catholic parishes on the Irish Times site and check the status of records in the likeliest parishes. Many have been filmed by the LDS and some have been transcribed on the Clare Library site. Even if you don't find your ancestors' names in the church records, you'll likely figure out about where in Clare they came from. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Terrence O'Callaghan <terryoc@netspace.net.au> To: IRL-CLARE <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 2:52 am Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan My great grandfather Patrick O'Callaghan and his wife emigrated from County Clare to Adelaide, South Australia, during 1854 and they were sponsored under an emigration scheme by Patrick Fennell who at the time was married to Mary O'Callaghan and they lived near Adelaide. I would like to know more about the O'Callaghans and the Fennells particularly their families in Ireland as I have been unable to identify where they lived in County Clare, their parents, or how Patrick O'Callaghan and Patrick Fennell got to England to catch their ships to Australia. Terrence O'Callaghan PO Box 730 Balwyn, Victoria 3103 Australia Email: terryoc@netspace.net.au Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:25:07 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801ce6c94$374a5120$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Terrence, If you Google "Patrick Fennell", among the results there is a tree on MyTrees.com. Alternatively Google MyTrees.com and search for him. You can see some data on dates and children, but no locations. And as it's a pay site you would have to join to see full data or to contact the submitter. But you may have that data already. I could see nothing for Patrick O'Callaghan. Unfortunately, you didn't give any data on his age, death, spouse or children. It would take me hours to look it all up, when you probably have it. I note you said they came from England. Were they perhaps there for 1851 census? Were any children born there? Peter ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 93 ****************************************

Terrence, If you Google "Patrick Fennell", among the results there is a tree on MyTrees.com. Alternatively Google MyTrees.com and search for him. You can see some data on dates and children, but no locations. And as it's a pay site you would have to join to see full data or to contact the submitter. But you may have that data already. I could see nothing for Patrick O'Callaghan. Unfortunately, you didn't give any data on his age, death, spouse or children. It would take me hours to look it all up, when you probably have it. I note you said they came from England. Were they perhaps there for 1851 census? Were any children born there? Peter

Terrence, You've done well if you've found immigration papers to South Australia. A lot were destroyed in a flood of the Torrens River. Do you have the name of the ship? Were there others from Clare aboard?. When did Patrick Fennell arrive? From what you're saying Mary O'Callaghan married Patrick Fennell and her brother Patrick O'Callaghan married ???. Unfortunately, I think you'll find more in Australian records than you will in Ireland. Look for death records of both couple or you may need to buy death certificates. That should give parents. You can try Clare library, but most of the record only give heads of household rather than family groups. And because births and marriages predate 1864 civil registrations you need to know a townland, religion and parish before looking in Ireland. And in most cases it requires a personal visit to Dublin or paying a local researcher. Also check migration lists at Clare Library on the off chance somebody has transcribed any SA passenger lists. Peter

My great grandfather Patrick O'Callaghan and his wife emigrated from County Clare to Adelaide, South Australia, during 1854 and they were sponsored under an emigration scheme by Patrick Fennell who at the time was married to Mary O'Callaghan and they lived near Adelaide. I would like to know more about the O'Callaghans and the Fennells particularly their families in Ireland as I have been unable to identify where they lived in County Clare, their parents, or how Patrick O'Callaghan and Patrick Fennell got to England to catch their ships to Australia. Terrence O'Callaghan PO Box 730 Balwyn, Victoria 3103 Australia Email: terryoc@netspace.net.au Sent from my iPad

To narrow down where they came from in Clare, look on the Tithe Applotments on the National Archives site and the Griffith's index on failteromhat.com for civil parishes that had those surnames. Then note on a parish map of Clare where they seemed to cluster. Then convert to Catholic parishes on the Irish Times site and check the status of records in the likeliest parishes. Many have been filmed by the LDS and some have been transcribed on the Clare Library site. Even if you don't find your ancestors' names in the church records, you'll likely figure out about where in Clare they came from. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Terrence O'Callaghan <terryoc@netspace.net.au> To: IRL-CLARE <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 2:52 am Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fennell and O'Callaghan My great grandfather Patrick O'Callaghan and his wife emigrated from County Clare to Adelaide, South Australia, during 1854 and they were sponsored under an emigration scheme by Patrick Fennell who at the time was married to Mary O'Callaghan and they lived near Adelaide. I would like to know more about the O'Callaghans and the Fennells particularly their families in Ireland as I have been unable to identify where they lived in County Clare, their parents, or how Patrick O'Callaghan and Patrick Fennell got to England to catch their ships to Australia. Terrence O'Callaghan PO Box 730 Balwyn, Victoria 3103 Australia Email: terryoc@netspace.net.au Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe he Married twice , both times to a Margaret ? Maggie the Dub Sent from my iPhone On 17 Jun 2013, at 23:45, CMere85162@aol.com wrote: > Thank you Diane. I have another branch of family that I traced back to > visiting Chicago at that time. I called the Church (St Marys) where the > memorial is at and they have no record of anyone being buried by that name there > either. I'm not sure how to proceed from here I have so many brick walls > and I'm spread thin. > Oh another thing I found out by talking to a secretary at the church was > that the memorial was paid for by a woman in another town who's last name > wasn't Casey, a bit of a mystery. There are other names on it as well. On one > side it says > "James Casey died Dec. 1868 age 55 yrs", "Margaret Casey died Mar 14th > 1913 age 85 yrs" then " Erected by his wife Margaret Casey Born in Parish > Killshanney Co. Clare, Ire." on the back side it says "Thomas Lacey under that > Michael Lacey" "Ann O'Connel under that James O'Connell 1864 - 1899". Last > of all on another side "James F. O'Reilly 1876 - 1854 Margaret T. O'Reilly > 1871 - 1948 Esther M. O'Reilly 1905 - 1946" >> From all the local sources I have determined that Margaret Reagan/Regan was > Patricks mother oh wow I'm sorry I've just discovered on his marriage cert > his father is recorded as Daniel Casey so his father is most likely " > Daniel at Ballygoonan, Kilfenora, This is what happens when you try to do too > many things at once. > > Warm regards, Clara > > " John probably went to Chicago in the 1890s for the same reason my > grandparents did, it was a boomtown, the fastest-growing city in America after it > held the World's Columbian Exposition. > > Not all deaths were recorded. I'd put more faith in the memorial too. > > Diane" > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Diane. I have another branch of family that I traced back to visiting Chicago at that time. I called the Church (St Marys) where the memorial is at and they have no record of anyone being buried by that name there either. I'm not sure how to proceed from here I have so many brick walls and I'm spread thin. Oh another thing I found out by talking to a secretary at the church was that the memorial was paid for by a woman in another town who's last name wasn't Casey, a bit of a mystery. There are other names on it as well. On one side it says "James Casey died Dec. 1868 age 55 yrs", "Margaret Casey died Mar 14th 1913 age 85 yrs" then " Erected by his wife Margaret Casey Born in Parish Killshanney Co. Clare, Ire." on the back side it says "Thomas Lacey under that Michael Lacey" "Ann O'Connel under that James O'Connell 1864 - 1899". Last of all on another side "James F. O'Reilly 1876 - 1854 Margaret T. O'Reilly 1871 - 1948 Esther M. O'Reilly 1905 - 1946" >From all the local sources I have determined that Margaret Reagan/Regan was Patricks mother oh wow I'm sorry I've just discovered on his marriage cert his father is recorded as Daniel Casey so his father is most likely " Daniel at Ballygoonan, Kilfenora, This is what happens when you try to do too many things at once. Warm regards, Clara " John probably went to Chicago in the 1890s for the same reason my grandparents did, it was a boomtown, the fastest-growing city in America after it held the World's Columbian Exposition. Not all deaths were recorded. I'd put more faith in the memorial too. Diane"

PJ, The Discovery maps which cover Clare are 51, 52, 53, 57, 58, 59, 63, 64, 65. See "Paper Maps and Documents" at http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1548&sid=1aaef429ff4d924 6e5b80f6f6f7d03c4 for further information including links to some of the companies that ship worldwide. See http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/maps/index.htm for historical maps of Clare (including the 1842 Ordnance Survey maps) which are very useful for Clare genealogical research. Paddy -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pjsalis@hal-pc.org Sent: 16 June 2013 19:58 To: Clare list Subject: [IRL-CLARE] maps of Ireland Josie and List, Your post about your upcoming trip to Ireland took me back to the three-week trip my parents and I took around the country in 1984 -- a week in Dublin-Dun Laoghaire, a week on a self-drive houseboat up and down the River Shannon, and a week in a house by the sea near Kenmare in Co. Cork. I'm a map freak, so beforehand I bought and for months pored over the Ordnance Survey maps for those areas, having enormous fun planning our daily car trips around the regions. Just last week I unpacked some of my memorabilia from that trip. Among those things were all my Irish OS maps. On deciding what memorabilia I could bear parting with, I found myself saving the maps and discarding much of the other stuff I'd collected and carried around with me as I moved house several times since '84. My point: If you don't already know about these maps, I urge you to consider buying the relevant ones for your trip. They come in several scales. I especially like the 1:50,000 scaled ones -- they have details that I've never found on any maps for the U.S. A Web search tells me that the Irish OS maps are available at http://www.osi.ie/Home.aspx . I believe the Discovery Series maps are in the scale I liked best, and that maps 51, 57, and 58 cover Co. Clare. In a quick Web search I didn't find anyplace in the US that sells the maps, but maybe someone else can suggest a US source. PJ in Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message