Hello, I've recently joined this list with the hope of finding my PENDER ancestors. My earliest Pender thus far is William Francis Pender b. ca. 1849 in Ireland, who immigrated to the US in 1857 and settled in New Jersey. His father's name is given as William on his death certificate. As yet, I have not been able to identify a specific place of birth. Using Griffith's Evaluation, I have come up with a list of four William Penders in four different locations. Among them is a William Pender who occupied a house on Malt House Lane in Kilrush, Co. Clare. Has anyone any information on this Pender family in Kilrush? Many thanks in advance, Lynda

The following may be of interest to people looking for McNAMARAs in Victoria, Australia. While tracking down Mulqu***s in Victoria, Australia, I purchased a copy of the birth certificate of John Mulqueeney, who was born 25th July 1860 in West Melbourne. His parents were John and Mary Mulqueeney (Grady) who had migrated to Victoria in 1857. The entry in the register immediately above the Mulqueeney entry shows that a baby girl, Bridget, was born on January 29th 1860 to John McNamara, 26, from Co Clare and his wife, 20 year old Mary McNamara (Lynch) also from Co Clare. The McNamaras were married at "Ennisdymond" in Clare in 1857. At the time of Bridget's birth they already had one child. John Mulqueeney and his wife, Mary (Grady) were also married at "Ennisdymond" in 1857. In the column headed "Informant", it shows that baby John Mulqueeney's birth was notified to the Registrar by John McNamara, who registered his own child's birth at the same time. The entry for John Mulqueeney provides further information about John McNamara - it tells us that he was a mason by trade and that he and John Mulqueeney were friends. The McNamaras lived at Alma Street, North Melbourne. There was a year's difference in their ages. Perhaps they were friends back home? The Mulqueeneys came to Australia per MINDORO, sailing from Plymouth in July 1857. I couldn't find the McNamaras on the passenger list. (John Mulqueeny died three months after his son was born, and his son died just a month later.) Cheers Paul Mulquiney

Larry I thank you for your message's received I know that my mother and uncle received a 3inch wood inlaid cross and chain from the Franciscan Monastery in Washington DC from their Aunt working in the district a NUN. I will try to find copies of the books by Sister O'Brien either in the Australian National library or see the local Catholic Bishop Patrick Luttrell -----Original Message----- From: Larry Brennan [mailto:bbs.ennis@eircom.net] Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 6:08 AM To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross Convent of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. Of the 310 in Ennis we have: Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. Sr. Ignatius O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1924. Sr. Tereasa O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1876. Sr. Winifred O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1940. Sr. Emilan O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1919. Sr. Berchmans O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1937. Sr. Justinian O' Brien Professed 1884 Died 1937. Sr. Agnes O' Brien Professed 1885 Died 1934. Sr. Camillus O' Brien Professed 1907 Died 1958. St. Agatha O' Brien Professed 1912 Died 1929. Sr. Gerard O' Brien Professed 1916 Died 1976. Sr. Eugene O' Brien Professed 1920 Died 1958. Sr. Marie Louise O' Brien Professed 1965/79. With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were given a new name at their profession. The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was one of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. Meriden Connecticut 1872. Middletown Connectictut 1872. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that left > Co > Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's > > Patrick Luttrell > Canberra Australia > > Looking for Catherine or Bridget O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! > Looking for Peter O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! Family tell that > Peter joined the Priesthood, and one of his sisters became a NUN in DC > USA. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:51 PM > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > "Smythe, Rt. Rev. Clement (Timothy), Trappist, D.D. > Born January 24, 1810, at the Townland of Finlea, near > Killaloe, Co. Claire, Ireland; ordained Pentacost, 1841 > (Saturday, May 29), in Waterford, Ireland...consecrated at St. Louis, Mo., > May 3, 1857...succeeded to the See of Dubuque, as Bishop on Feburary 20, > 1858, was Administrator of the Vacant See of Chicago, from May 3, > 1858...Died September 22, 1865, at Dubuque, Ia. > Birth and ordination data from Mt. Melleray (Trappist Convent), Ireland. > He was the son of Cornelius Smyth and Mary Malony. > Received the Habit, October 7, 1838; professed, November 1, 1839." > p. 101 > Biographical Cyclopaedia of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United > States, 1784-1898 > ISBN: 0524070385 > Publisher: M. H. Wiltzius > Author(s): Francis X. Reuss > Publication Date: 1898 > > > posted by Sharon Carberry > keeping an eye out for Molony of E. 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Hi Paul, This was most likely Ennistymon Regards, Jim <The McNamaras were married at "Ennisdymond" in Clare in 1857. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mulquiney" <pmu57131@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: McNAMARA in Melbourne <SNIPPED> > The following may be of interest to people looking for McNAMARAs in > Victoria, Australia. <SNIPPED> > The entry in the register immediately above the Mulqueeney entry shows > that a baby girl, Bridget, was born on January 29th 1860 to John McNamara, > 26, from Co Clare and his wife, 20 year old Mary McNamara (Lynch) also > from Co Clare. The McNamaras were married at "Ennisdymond" in Clare in > 1857. At the time of Bridget's birth they already had one child.

Hello Robert Delighted to see your efforts - thanks very much. The Dolaghty name is surely linked to research so will forward details on.. Possibly somewhere too the name links into my research - way back... Well done! Catherine Dunedin NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [CLARE] Clare Emigrants to Victoria Daffey Daly Davison Davoran Dea Deering Doherty Dolaghty Donovan Duggan > Next batch, all the D's > > > > Selection of Irish Folk sponsored in Victoria Australia 1843 to 1857 > > > > This listing is selective of Folk from Co Clare and those with only the > identification Ireland as they may be from Co Clare. Some other odd ones > will appear where I was not sure if the Town was in Co Clare. There are 22 > pages in this collection and I will feed them through in batches as I sort > them. > > Information found at PRO in Melbourne, Victoria. Victorian Sponsored > Immigration Index 1856 to 1858 Nominee Order. Fisch 0001, Stand 7, Book > 14A. > > Nominee is the person being sponsor, App No is the official application > number, App Date is the date the application was made and money paid, > (usually about 12 months prior to arrival), Depositor is the person > sponsoring, (paying the money up front) usually a family member or proposed > employer. > > > > Data in order is Nominee, Age, From, App No, App Date, Ship and Depositor. > > > > > > Daffey Ann, 43, Co Clare, 357.172.57, 23 May 1857, -, Daffey Patrick. > > Daffey Margaret, 13, Co Clare, 357.172.57, 23 May 1857, -, Daffey Patrick. > > Daffey Maria, 23, Co Clare, 357.172.57, 23 May 1857, -, Daffey Patrick. > > Daffey Michael, 19, Co Clare, 357.172.57, 23 May 1857, -, Daffey Patrick. > > Daffey Susan, 17, Co Clare, 357.172.57, 23 May 1857, -, Daffey Patrick. > > Daffey Bridget, 19, Co Clare, 28, 23 Aug 1856, Jessie Munn, Daffey Richard. > > Daffey Michael, 23, Co Clare, 28, 23 Aug 1856, Jessie Munn, Daffey Richard. > > Daly Austin, 23, Ennis Clare, 26, 20 Aug 1856, Carleton, Daly Eliza. > > Daly Thomas, 21, Ennis Clare, 26, 20 Aug 1856, Carleton, Daly Eliza. > > Davison William, 22, Ireland, 431.245.57, 12 Aug 1857, -, Watson William. > > Davoran Bridget, 20, Co Clare, 20, 20 Aug 1856, Black Eagle, Broderick > Patrick. > > Dea James, 36, Co Clare, 271.77.57, 2 Mar 1857, -, Ball Margaret. > > Deering Jane, 29, Co Clare, 93, 11 Oct 1856, Persia, Deering Bridget. > > Deering Judith, 53, Co Clare, 93, 11 Oct 1856, Persia, Deering Bridget. > > Deering Mathew, 6, Co Clare, 93, 11 Oct 1856, Persia, Deering Bridget. > > Deering Thomas, 3, Co Clare, 93, 11 Oct 1856, Persia, Deering Bridget. > > Deering Thomas, 29, Co Clare, 93, 11 Oct 1856, Persia, Deering Bridget. > > Doherty Catherine, 17, Killrush Clare, 422.237.57, 7 Sept 1857, -, Doherty > Charles. > > Doherty Charles, 18, Killrush Clare, 422.237.57, 7 Sept 1857, -, Doherty > Charles. > > Doherty John, 20, Killrush Clare, 422.237.57, 7 Sept 1857, -, Doherty > Charles. > > Doherty Patrick, 16, Killrush Clare, 422.237.57, 7 Sept 1857, -, Doherty > Charles. > > Dolaghty Bridget, 19, Co Clare, 42, 1 Sept 1856, Black Eagle, Dolaghty Mary. > > Dolaghty Patrick, 18, Co Clare, 42, 1 Sept 1856, Black Eagle, Dolaghty Mary. > > Donovan Elizabeth, 28, Ireland, 461.274.57, 7 Sept 1857, -, Donovan Martin. > > Duggan Bridget, 21, Co Clare, 150, 29 Nov 1856, Jessie Munn, Duggan Martin. > > Duggan John, 22, Co Clare, 150, 29 Nov 1856, Jessie Munn, Duggan Martin. > > Duggan Mary, 19, Co Clare, 150, 29 Nov 1856, Jessie Munn, Duggan Martin. > > Duggan Matthew, 24, Co Clare, 35, 27 Aug 1856, Talbot, Duggan Mary. > > Duggan Michael, 22, Co Clare, 35, 27 Aug 1856, Talbot, Duggan Mary. > > > > Robert in Aus > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. > NO VIRUS warnings to be posted to the list. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 9/08/2006 > >

Hello Larry Are there any Doolaghty/Ryan or O'Connors professed up to 1881 - g.grandmother was visiting the convent at Ennis one Sunday morning in 1881 - maybe it was over the children's schooling!? Thanks for any assistance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross Convent > of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. > > Of the 310 in Ennis we have: > > Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. > Sr. Ignatius O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1924. > Sr. Tereasa O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1876. > Sr. Winifred O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1940. > Sr. Emilan O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1919. > Sr. Berchmans O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1937. > Sr. Justinian O' Brien Professed 1884 Died 1937. > Sr. Agnes O' Brien Professed 1885 Died 1934. > Sr. Camillus O' Brien Professed 1907 Died 1958. > St. Agatha O' Brien Professed 1912 Died 1929. > Sr. Gerard O' Brien Professed 1916 Died 1976. > Sr. Eugene O' Brien Professed 1920 Died 1958. > Sr. Marie Louise O' Brien Professed 1965/79. > > With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were given a > new name at their profession. > > The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of > education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 > Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was one > of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. > > Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. > > Meriden Connecticut 1872. > Middletown Connectictut 1872. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> > To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:43 AM > Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > > > Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that left > > Co > > Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's > > > > Patrick Luttrell > > Canberra Australia > > > > Looking for Catherine or Bridget O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! > > Looking for Peter O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! Family tell that > > Peter joined the Priesthood, and one of his sisters became a NUN in DC > > USA. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:51 PM > > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > > > "Smythe, Rt. Rev. Clement (Timothy), Trappist, D.D. > > Born January 24, 1810, at the Townland of Finlea, near > > Killaloe, Co. Claire, Ireland; ordained Pentacost, 1841 > > (Saturday, May 29), in Waterford, Ireland...consecrated at St. Louis, Mo., > > May 3, 1857...succeeded to the See of Dubuque, as Bishop on Feburary 20, > > 1858, was Administrator of the Vacant See of Chicago, from May 3, > > 1858...Died September 22, 1865, at Dubuque, Ia. > > Birth and ordination data from Mt. Melleray (Trappist Convent), Ireland. > > He was the son of Cornelius Smyth and Mary Malony. > > Received the Habit, October 7, 1838; professed, November 1, 1839." > > p. 101 > > Biographical Cyclopaedia of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United > > States, 1784-1898 > > ISBN: 0524070385 > > Publisher: M. H. Wiltzius > > Author(s): Francis X. Reuss > > Publication Date: 1898 > > > > > > posted by Sharon Carberry > > keeping an eye out for Molony of E. Clare > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. 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The only thing that would interest my daughter in family history would be if it provided her with American relatives she could visit! She blames me bitterly for failing to provide her with this basic result of family research. She loves the long-lost Australian ones, but American ones would be the crown of genealogy research as far as she is concerned. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [CLARE] ashes ashes I would only receive another deep, shudder-inducing double-eyeball roll, accompanied by another "So what?!"

Bless Michael McNamara, and I hope he finds his way over to west Clare. Thanks, Jennifer, for this article. Melody -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jennifer Hyatt" <jhyatt72@eircom.net> > Hi all, > > Here's an article that was in this week's Clare Champion. I thought it might be > of interest. (no author noted) > > A Genealogical Wealth of Information > > The provision of a proper information board chronicling the inscriptions of > deceased families in old graveyards throughout South-East Clare, could provide a > tourism spin-off for local communities. > > That's according to an Ardnacrusha based local genealogist who has spent the > last few years logging the names and details of deceased families from > headstones in cemeteries, most of which have been in Meelick and Parteen. > > Michael McNamara recently met an Australian couple outisde a graveyard in > Limerick who learnt their ancestors left Ireland to go to Australia after they > had completed a family history. > > Tracing Irish ancestry has generated huge interest in the U.S. and Australia and > Michael believes that this tourism potential could be tapped if relatives found > it easier to trace their roots in Ireland. > > He told the Clare Champion that information displays and an appropriate plaque > could be provided in old graveyards, which would prove to be a huge attraction > for tourists and visitors who were keen to establish if their family name was > mentioned on any headstone. > > "It would be great if a plaque or information board with inscriptions of > deceased families was provided by the council for tourists and people trying to > complete their family history. It can be hard to see some of the names which > have faded over time and a lot can depend on the way the sun hits an inscription > at a particular angle," he said. > > Over the last few years, he has logged inscriptions in a number of cemeteries > including Truagh, Doonass; Kilquane; Meelick Catholic Church Grounds, Church of > Ireland, Punchbowl, Meelick and the hill graveyard in Ogonneloe. > > Battling with undergrowth, briars and other obstacles, he completes this time > consuming task during his spare time and subsequently publishes the results in > the Slieve Aughty Journal, which is available from the East Clare Heritage > Centre, Tuamgraney. > > He is currently logging the headstones of the old and new graveyard at Craughaun > Cratloe, which includes the ruins of an old church and burial chamber in the > older section. > > Members of the BLOOD family, who were well known landlords in Cratloe, were > buried in the graveyard. > > Mr. McNamara's diligent recording work has been welcomed by local historian, > Donal O'Riain, who also agreed that a permanent structure with inscriptions of > deceased families would be extremely useful for people trying to trace their > ancestry. > > All the best > Jennifer > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. > NO VIRUS warnings to be posted to the list. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi all, Here's an article that was in this week's Clare Champion. I thought it might be of interest. (no author noted) A Genealogical Wealth of Information The provision of a proper information board chronicling the inscriptions of deceased families in old graveyards throughout South-East Clare, could provide a tourism spin-off for local communities. That's according to an Ardnacrusha based local genealogist who has spent the last few years logging the names and details of deceased families from headstones in cemeteries, most of which have been in Meelick and Parteen. Michael McNamara recently met an Australian couple outisde a graveyard in Limerick who learnt their ancestors left Ireland to go to Australia after they had completed a family history. Tracing Irish ancestry has generated huge interest in the U.S. and Australia and Michael believes that this tourism potential could be tapped if relatives found it easier to trace their roots in Ireland. He told the Clare Champion that information displays and an appropriate plaque could be provided in old graveyards, which would prove to be a huge attraction for tourists and visitors who were keen to establish if their family name was mentioned on any headstone. "It would be great if a plaque or information board with inscriptions of deceased families was provided by the council for tourists and people trying to complete their family history. It can be hard to see some of the names which have faded over time and a lot can depend on the way the sun hits an inscription at a particular angle," he said. Over the last few years, he has logged inscriptions in a number of cemeteries including Truagh, Doonass; Kilquane; Meelick Catholic Church Grounds, Church of Ireland, Punchbowl, Meelick and the hill graveyard in Ogonneloe. Battling with undergrowth, briars and other obstacles, he completes this time consuming task during his spare time and subsequently publishes the results in the Slieve Aughty Journal, which is available from the East Clare Heritage Centre, Tuamgraney. He is currently logging the headstones of the old and new graveyard at Craughaun Cratloe, which includes the ruins of an old church and burial chamber in the older section. Members of the BLOOD family, who were well known landlords in Cratloe, were buried in the graveyard. Mr. McNamara's diligent recording work has been welcomed by local historian, Donal O'Riain, who also agreed that a permanent structure with inscriptions of deceased families would be extremely useful for people trying to trace their ancestry. All the best Jennifer ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

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Convent of Mercy, St. Xavier's Ennis. Sr. Baptist Ryan Professed 1858 Died in U.S.A. Sr. Angela Delaney Professed 1866 Died 1914. Sr. Julianna Ryan Professed 1873 Died 1882. Sr. Xavier Ryan Professed 1873 Died 1897. Sr. Rose Ryan Professed 1875 Died 1882. Regards, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Delahunty" <cdelahunty@paradise.net.nz> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > Hello Larry > > Are there any Doolaghty/Ryan or O'Connors professed up to 1881 - > g.grandmother was visiting the convent at Ennis one Sunday morning in > 1881 - > maybe it was over the children's schooling!? > > Thanks for any assistance. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> > To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > >> >> Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross > Convent >> of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. >> >> Of the 310 in Ennis we have: >> >> Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. >> Sr. Ignatius O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1924. >> Sr. Tereasa O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1876. >> Sr. Winifred O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1940. >> Sr. Emilan O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1919. >> Sr. Berchmans O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1937. >> Sr. Justinian O' Brien Professed 1884 Died 1937. >> Sr. Agnes O' Brien Professed 1885 Died 1934. >> Sr. Camillus O' Brien Professed 1907 Died 1958. >> St. Agatha O' Brien Professed 1912 Died 1929. >> Sr. Gerard O' Brien Professed 1916 Died 1976. >> Sr. Eugene O' Brien Professed 1920 Died 1958. >> Sr. Marie Louise O' Brien Professed 1965/79. >> >> With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were >> given > a >> new name at their profession. >> >> The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of >> education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 >> Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was > one >> of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. >> >> Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. >> >> Meriden Connecticut 1872. >> Middletown Connectictut 1872. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> >> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:43 AM >> Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) >> >> >> > Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that > left >> > Co >> > Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's >> > >> > Patrick Luttrell >> > Canberra Australia >> > >> > Looking for Catherine or Bridget O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! >> > Looking for Peter O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! Family tell > that >> > Peter joined the Priesthood, and one of his sisters became a NUN in DC >> > USA. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] >> > Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:51 PM >> > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) >> > >> > "Smythe, Rt. Rev. Clement (Timothy), Trappist, D.D. >> > Born January 24, 1810, at the Townland of Finlea, near >> > Killaloe, Co. Claire, Ireland; ordained Pentacost, 1841 >> > (Saturday, May 29), in Waterford, Ireland...consecrated at St. Louis, > Mo., >> > May 3, 1857...succeeded to the See of Dubuque, as Bishop on Feburary >> > 20, >> > 1858, was Administrator of the Vacant See of Chicago, from May 3, >> > 1858...Died September 22, 1865, at Dubuque, Ia. >> > Birth and ordination data from Mt. Melleray (Trappist Convent), >> > Ireland. >> > He was the son of Cornelius Smyth and Mary Malony. >> > Received the Habit, October 7, 1838; professed, November 1, 1839." >> > p. 101 >> > Biographical Cyclopaedia of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United >> > States, 1784-1898 >> > ISBN: 0524070385 >> > Publisher: M. H. Wiltzius >> > Author(s): Francis X. Reuss >> > Publication Date: 1898 >> > >> > >> > posted by Sharon Carberry >> > keeping an eye out for Molony of E. Clare >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== >> > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send >> > e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word >> > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> > areas they lived. 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Why not try: http://www.ennis-bookshop.ie/ Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > Larry I thank you for your message's received I know that my mother and > uncle received a 3inch wood inlaid cross and chain from the Franciscan > Monastery in Washington DC from their Aunt working in the district a NUN. > > I will try to find copies of the books by Sister O'Brien either in the > Australian National library or see the local Catholic Bishop > > Patrick Luttrell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Brennan [mailto:bbs.ennis@eircom.net] > Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 6:08 AM > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > > Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross > Convent > of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. > > Of the 310 in Ennis we have: > > Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. > Sr. Ignatius O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1924. > Sr. Tereasa O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1876. > Sr. Winifred O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1940. > Sr. Emilan O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1919. > Sr. Berchmans O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1937. > Sr. Justinian O' Brien Professed 1884 Died 1937. > Sr. Agnes O' Brien Professed 1885 Died 1934. > Sr. Camillus O' Brien Professed 1907 Died 1958. > St. Agatha O' Brien Professed 1912 Died 1929. > Sr. Gerard O' Brien Professed 1916 Died 1976. > Sr. Eugene O' Brien Professed 1920 Died 1958. > Sr. Marie Louise O' Brien Professed 1965/79. > > With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were given > a > > new name at their profession. > > The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of > education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 > Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was > one > of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. > > Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. > > Meriden Connecticut 1872. > Middletown Connectictut 1872. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> > To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:43 AM > Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > >> Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that left >> Co >> Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's >> >> Patrick Luttrell >> Canberra Australia >> >> Looking for Catherine or Bridget O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! >> Looking for Peter O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! Family tell that >> Peter joined the Priesthood, and one of his sisters became a NUN in DC >> USA. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:51 PM >> To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) >> >> "Smythe, Rt. Rev. Clement (Timothy), Trappist, D.D. >> Born January 24, 1810, at the Townland of Finlea, near >> Killaloe, Co. Claire, Ireland; ordained Pentacost, 1841 >> (Saturday, May 29), in Waterford, Ireland...consecrated at St. Louis, >> Mo., >> May 3, 1857...succeeded to the See of Dubuque, as Bishop on Feburary 20, >> 1858, was Administrator of the Vacant See of Chicago, from May 3, >> 1858...Died September 22, 1865, at Dubuque, Ia. >> Birth and ordination data from Mt. Melleray (Trappist Convent), Ireland. >> He was the son of Cornelius Smyth and Mary Malony. >> Received the Habit, October 7, 1838; professed, November 1, 1839." >> p. 101 >> Biographical Cyclopaedia of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United >> States, 1784-1898 >> ISBN: 0524070385 >> Publisher: M. H. Wiltzius >> Author(s): Francis X. Reuss >> Publication Date: 1898 >> >> >> posted by Sharon Carberry >> keeping an eye out for Molony of E. Clare >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== >> If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send >> e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the >> word >> subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. 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There are many references to Torpey individuals in the Quin Parish records available on microfilm. These families lived in the townland of Craggataska. You also will find many references to the Torpey family in the Tulla Parish records especially in the townland of Derrynacleha. Regards, Thor Conway

1900 CT Middlesex Co. Middletown 451 St. John's Square Ryan, Baptist Sister age 68 b. Feb 1832 Ireland teaching school img'd 1893 (oldest nun listed, by many years) 1910 CT Middlesex Co. Middleton St. John's Sq. St. Elizabeth's Convent eldest nun is Sr. M. Agnes, age 73, no surname given 1920 CT Fairfield Co. Bridgeport, 500 Pembroke St. Walburga, M Sister boarder age 89 b. Ire img'd 18__ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> ... > Convent of Mercy, St. Xavier's Ennis. > > Sr. Baptist Ryan Professed 1858 Died in U.S.A. .... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> ... > >> Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross Convent of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. > >> > >> Of the 310 in Ennis we have: > >> > >> Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. .... > >> > >> With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were given a new name at their profession. > >> The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was one of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. Meriden Connecticut 1872. Middletown Connectictut 1872. ....

Len, I agree with you re: the term indentured servant. Pre 19th century, there were people in Europe, who signed on of their own accord to work for a stipulated amount of time for someone in the 13 colonies in order to have their fare paid. After the contract was fulfilled they were free to go on their way. In no way were they slaves but in many incidences the circumstances were less than good. I doubt if by the time of our Civil War that there were any or very few indentured servants. The terms, servant, laborer for young men & women who emigrated in the 19th and early 20th century were to designate an occupation. The term spinster was often used in place of servant. Also, there may have been people in 1st class who employed those in steerage. In my & my husband's family we have found those terms used for ancestors on passenger lists, City Directory, census. The idea that they were indentured servants never entered our minds. Many young Irish women, worked in homes as maids, cooks, etc. Today, there are young European women who sign on as "Au Pair" and come to the USA. As in the past, some "luck" out and have a good experience, others have found themselves in very bad and sometimes compromising positions. Mary Ellen Chambers Dolmenx@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/12/2006 6:00:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, IRL-CLARE- D-request@rootsweb.com writes: be listed as going to the US to work as a Servant and men as Laborers. This has my curiosity. I know my Grandmother, Catherine Kelly, came to Boston and worked as a house maid for a family on Martha's Vineyard. It was something she wouldn't talk about. > These stories irritate me every time I see them. Maybe some immigrants to North America in the 17th of 18th C. were indentured (I know some Irish deported by Cromwell were taken to New Hampshire by ship captains rather than to slavery in the Barbadoes). Those very lucky persons were often employed as "indentured servants", for a number of years, but stories of Irish immigrants as late as the 19th C. being so employed I believe are largely false or based on a misunderstanding of circumstances and job descriptions. Of course, it's possible for individuals to have entered into probably illegal arrangements, but to suggest that a "domestic servant" was a virtual slave is way off the mark. In Ireland, a review of many marriage registers will show that a large percentage of females described themselves as "servants", which meant simply that they worked as a domestic for some probably well-off neighbor or perhaps their landlord. - often a relative, though of different religion! They were by no means enslaved or held in servitude or bondage. Many Irish in the USA seem so willing to believe the worst, when that was not at all the case. A young woman of a non-landed (read Catholic) family in 19th C. Ireland had few employment options in rural Ireland. A domestic ("servant") was one of the few. If they were unwilling to talk about it, the reason most likely was that they would have been looked down upon in the USA as akin to freed slaves, based on the common perceptions of "servant" at that time. That's not to say there weren't some bad employment situations after immigrating here - but often avoidable, especially after achieving US citizenship. The same applies to males. If one was not of the landed gentry class, there were few occupations that merited any other designation than "laborer"?. Some exceptions I've seen were "carpenter", "farmer", "soldier". There were some others, but most were reserved for the ascendancy. Thus a "laborer" was usually a farm worker, either employed by some other land owner, or working his own farm which was leased from someone else. Catholics could only lease land for periods of 33 years, sometimes renewable especially if there were family ties with the lessor, so some families were able to hold onto property for several generations. If by some chance he were able to own some land outright he would be a "farmer" or maybe even "gentleman farmer" (especially if he had conformed to the state religion) , but otherwise a "laborer". I hope this helps to clarify the matter, Len Keane ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Well it cannot be a list problem as this has appeared on the list Cara Original Message: ----------------- From: Elaine Pratt elaine1849@btinternet.com Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:39:41 +0100 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CLARE] Testing Hello list, This is a test message because I seem to having difficulty in sending mail to the list. It is returned saying can't reach recipient, permanent error. Can anyone advise please. Elaine ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Listers, I any connections to my wife's great grandfather, John Torpey, came from County Clare and settled in Chicago. I have no census data from Chicago. I believe they lived around 35th & Halsted area. I do know that the maiden named of the woman he married and later divorced was Donoghue - no forename is known at this time. That is basically all the information I have on him. I do not have any dates of birth or time when he emigrated. I know this is very limited information, to say the least. He had one daughter, Sarah, my wife's grandmother, and 3 sons - Timothy, Joseph, and William. Sarah died on 13 December 1956. I checked the LDS site, but those Johns and Sarahs do not appear to be the correct ones. Any information that can be found would be greatly appreciated, especially any connection to the Torpeys (Tarpeys). Bill Karr in Peoria, IL., USA

I do appreicate your imput here. I had never thought my grandma was a slave just to make that clear. I had never heard of "indentured servants" until just recently. I had never heard of there ever being Irish slaves (like in the 1700's). It was a bit shocking to me. On 8/12/06, Dolmenx@aol.com <Dolmenx@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/2006 6:00:41 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, IRL-CLARE- > D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > <have noticed very many the women on the passenger lists I look at seem > to > be listed as going to the US to work as a Servant and men > as Laborers. This > has my curiosity. I know my Grandmother, Catherine Kelly, came to Boston > and worked as a house maid for a family on Martha's Vineyard. It was > something > she wouldn't talk about. > > > These stories irritate me every time I see them. Maybe some immigrants > to > North America in the 17th of 18th C. were indentured (I know some Irish > deported by Cromwell were taken to New Hampshire by ship captains rather > than to > slavery in the Barbadoes). Those very lucky persons were often employed > as > "indentured servants", for a number of years, but stories of Irish > immigrants > as late as the 19th C. being so employed I believe are largely false or > based > on a misunderstanding of circumstances and job descriptions. Of course, > it's possible for individuals to have entered into probably illegal > arrangements, but to suggest that a "domestic servant" was a virtual slave > is way off > the mark. > > In Ireland, a review of many marriage registers will show that a large > percentage of females described themselves as "servants", which meant > simply that > they worked as a domestic for some probably well-off neighbor or perhaps > their landlord. - often a relative, though of different religion! They > were by > no means enslaved or held in servitude or bondage. Many Irish in the USA > seem > so willing to believe the worst, when that was not at all the case. > > A young woman of a non-landed (read Catholic) family in 19th C. Ireland > had > few employment options in rural Ireland. A domestic ("servant") was one > of > the few. If they were unwilling to talk about it, the reason most likely > was > that they would have been looked down upon in the USA as akin to freed > slaves, based on the common perceptions of "servant" at that > time. That's not to > say there weren't some bad employment situations after immigrating here - > but > often avoidable, especially after achieving US citizenship. > > The same applies to males. If one was not of the landed gentry class, > there were few occupations that merited any other designation than > "laborer"?. > Some exceptions I've seen were "carpenter", "farmer", "soldier". There > were > some others, but most were reserved for the ascendancy. Thus a "laborer" > was usually a farm worker, either employed by some other land owner, or > working > his own farm which was leased from someone else. Catholics could only > lease land for periods of 33 years, sometimes renewable especially if > there were > family ties with the lessor, so some families were able to hold onto > property for several generations. If by some chance he were able to > own some land > outright he would be a "farmer" or maybe even "gentleman > farmer" (especially > if he had conformed to the state religion) , but otherwise a "laborer". > > I hope this helps to clarify the matter, > > Len Keane > > > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Of the 141 Nuns that were professed at St. Mary's of the Holy Cross Convent of Mercy Kilrush unfortunately No O' Brien. Of the 310 in Ennis we have: Sr. Walburga O' Brien Professed 1871 Died 1923. Sr. Ignatius O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1924. Sr. Tereasa O' Brien Professed 1874 Died 1876. Sr. Winifred O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1940. Sr. Emilan O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1919. Sr. Berchmans O' Brien Professed 1877 Died 1937. Sr. Justinian O' Brien Professed 1884 Died 1937. Sr. Agnes O' Brien Professed 1885 Died 1934. Sr. Camillus O' Brien Professed 1907 Died 1958. St. Agatha O' Brien Professed 1912 Died 1929. Sr. Gerard O' Brien Professed 1916 Died 1976. Sr. Eugene O' Brien Professed 1920 Died 1958. Sr. Marie Louise O' Brien Professed 1965/79. With regard to naming the nuns along with the Christian Brother were given a new name at their profession. The Bishop McFarland from U.S.A. applied for aid in the Glorius cause of education to the convent in Ennis.....wrote in December 1871 Eleven sisters left Ennis on the 25th. April 1872 Walburga O' Brien was one of the nuns who was selected for Middletown. Nuns Foundation in the U.S.A. Meriden Connecticut 1872. Middletown Connectictut 1872. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that left > Co > Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's > > Patrick Luttrell > Canberra Australia > > Looking for Catherine or Bridget O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! > Looking for Peter O'BRIEN from Tarmon Killimer Co Clare! Family tell that > Peter joined the Priesthood, and one of his sisters became a NUN in DC > USA. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:51 PM > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > "Smythe, Rt. Rev. Clement (Timothy), Trappist, D.D. > Born January 24, 1810, at the Townland of Finlea, near > Killaloe, Co. Claire, Ireland; ordained Pentacost, 1841 > (Saturday, May 29), in Waterford, Ireland...consecrated at St. Louis, Mo., > May 3, 1857...succeeded to the See of Dubuque, as Bishop on Feburary 20, > 1858, was Administrator of the Vacant See of Chicago, from May 3, > 1858...Died September 22, 1865, at Dubuque, Ia. > Birth and ordination data from Mt. Melleray (Trappist Convent), Ireland. > He was the son of Cornelius Smyth and Mary Malony. > Received the Habit, October 7, 1838; professed, November 1, 1839." > p. 101 > Biographical Cyclopaedia of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United > States, 1784-1898 > ISBN: 0524070385 > Publisher: M. H. Wiltzius > Author(s): Francis X. Reuss > Publication Date: 1898 > > > posted by Sharon Carberry > keeping an eye out for Molony of E. Clare > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 7/08/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 7/08/2006 > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > To change your subscription, to unsub, to check out the list's arcchives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-CLARE.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Sister Pius O' Brien who is the Archivist for the Nuns here in Clare wrote 3 Books: The Sisters of Mercy of Ennis ISBN O 9519383 0 4 Published in 1992. The Sisters of Mercy of Kilrush & Kilkee ISBN O 9519383 2 0 Published in 1997 The Sisters of Mercy of Birr & Nenagh ISBN O 9519383 1 2 Published in 1994 Each ha a register of Perpetually Professed Sisters from Registers of the Local Convent from 1842. Regards, Larry. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:55 AM Subject: RE: [CLARE] Re: Resources for research on nuns > Many thanks Sharon I will contact the UNI and ask questions > > Patrick Luttrell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Carberry [mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 11:51 PM > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLARE] Re: Resources for research on nuns > > Sorry to take awhile to respond. This was not something on which I had > anything stored on my computer. However, I did run across today some > references that may be useful. See below. > > Sharon C. > Georgia > > Kathleen Finegan, Director of Library Services > Avila University > 11901 Wornall Road > Kansas City, MO 64145 > (816)942-8400, ext.2311 > email: finegank@mail.avila.edu > > Her webpage? > http://www.avila.edu/resources/womens_religious/oneill.htm > > Catholic Archives of Texas has the following: > Catholic Directories, 1817-1899: 3,000 mft. -- microfilmed directories of > Catholic dioceses and institutions; clergy lists, religious orders of > women > and men in the U.S., Canada and Mexico; hard copies also available until > 1993. > [Try Googling for an email address for a > reference librarian there.] > > > Nuns in nineteenth-century Ireland > Caitriona Clear > Publisher: Dublin : Gill and Macmillan ; 1988, c1987. > ISBN: 0813206618 DDC: 271.900415 LCC: BX4220 Edition: $34.95 > Includes index. > May also have this ISBN: 0717114759 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Luttrell" <luttpa@tpg.com.au> > To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:43 AM > Subject: RE: [CLARE] Cornelius Smythe & Mary Molony, Finlea (Killaloe) > > >> Sharon is there a similar Cyclopaedia listing the Catholic Nuns that left > Co >> Clare for the USA in the early 1910-1930's >> >> Patrick Luttrell >> Canberra Australia > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > To change your subscription, to unsub, to check out the list's arcchives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-CLARE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 9/08/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 9/08/2006 > > > > ==== IRL-CLARE Mailing List ==== > If you just want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to IRL-CLARE-L-request@rootsweb.com > or (for the digest list) IRL-CLARE-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >