A kind soul named Susan Sandy in San Jose, California, has transcribed biographies from a Ramsey County, Minnesota local history book, placing those on the Rootsweb World Connect section. She is not related to the below person but answered my inquiry for other portions of the bio which did not fit the World Connect format. All such info is now complete (see blow), as well as a contemporary article on the company founded by this Clare man. Sharon Carberry also not related Robert Patrick Baker Birth: 3 MAR 1872 Ennis, County Clare, Ireland Father: John Baker Mother: Elizabeth Reynolds Married: 28 JUN 1911 Wisconsin Dells, Columbia, Wisconsin Wife: Margaret Estell McManmann Children Daniel Reynolds Baker John McManman Baker Robert Kane Baker Educated Ennis, County Clare, Ireland 1889 Apprenticed in general store, Ennis, County Clare, Ireland; 1890 Came to U.S., St. Paul [Minnesota]; 1890-1892 With William Cunningham Woolen Company, St. Paul 1893-1897 Traveling Rep for Joseph M. Hayes Woolen Company, St. Louis, Missouri, headquarters, St. Paul; 1898-1902 E. R. Hawkins & Co., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, headquarters St. Paul; 1903-1914 Downing Clark & Co., New York City, New York, headquarters St. Paul; 1915 President Minnesota Chemical Company, St. Paul. The Association of American Soap & Glycerine Producers Inc., N. Y.; Laundery & Cleaners Allied Trade Association; National Manufacturers Association; St. Paul Association of Commerce; Minneapolis Civic & Commerce Association; Midway Club; Town & Country Club; St. Paul Athletic Club; BPOE [Elks]; KC [Knights of Columbus]; St. Marks Catholic Church; Hobby: Horse Racing Office: 2285 Hampden Avenue; Residence: 2148 Inglehart, St. Paul. ----end of biography-- "The Minnesota Chemical Company, a distributor of equipment and supplies, is owned by the third generation of Baker brothers and cousins: Mike Baker is president of the company and manager of the equipment department; Steve Baker is vice president-treasurer and manager of the supplies division; Dan Baker is a vice president and manager of the Milwaukee operation. The company currently maintains three locations in the Midwest. The company was founded in 1915 by R. P. Baker, a native of Ireland, who capitalized on his experience as a seller of woolen yard goods and soap products In the initial decades, it concentrated on both the manufacture of its own soap products and the distribution of various supply items to creameries, laundries and drycleaners. After World War II, R.P.'s sons, Dan, John and Bob, returned from military service to manage and expand the scope of the company. Very gradually, beginning about 50 years ago, they began adding...[website misplaced some text at thsi point] drycleaning equipment lines." http://www.natclo.com/0306/aa60.htm

Dear Bob I found this so fascinating, as for years I have been trying to establish when the Sheedys in Ireland used that surname in its own right, somewhere about the late 1600's to early 1700's. They come from the Sheedy (Sioda) McNamara's of Co Clare. Thanks for sharing this You will find more on some of the Sheedy Mac's at http://www.genseek.net/speak.htm cheers Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Brooks" <rcbrooks@pivot.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:35 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Admiral Thomas Macnamara Russell > I am seeking help as I am compiling biographical material on Admiral Thomas > Macnamara Russell, commissioned Lieutenant 02 June 1776, who served for 30 > months thereafter in my local waters. > > The Dictionary of National Biography (DNB) lists: > "Thomas Macnamara Russell (1740?-1824), admiral, born about 1740, is > described as the son of an Englishman who settled in Ireland, where he > married a Miss Macnamara, probably a daughter and coheiress of Sheedy > Macnamara of Balyally, co. Clare. On the death of his father when he was > five years old, he is said to have inherited a large fortune, which, by the > carelessness or dishonesty of his trustees, disappeared before he was > fourteen. This was probably the cause of his going to sea. . . ." > > The date of birth is reconstructed from his Lieutenant's passing Certificate > which lists his age as 32 on 02 Dec 1772. > > I would assume that a landowner with minor children under guardianship would > have had a will or at least some some of probate administration. I have > read that many wills were lost to fire in Dublin in 1922; however, I have > also read that abstracts made in 1897 have survived. > > Can anyone inform me as to any Russell wills for the period 1740-1750 might > be extant. How about a will for a "Sheedy Macnamara"? > > What parish would most likely contain records of a family from "Ballyally"? > Have any records for the 1740s survived? Is "Ballyally" the townslands > "Ballyallia" in Templemaley, Upper Bunratty? > > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine, USA > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

God bless Clare Library. I had found my great-grandfather, his wife and the names of her parents, but where did they go? Not too far away. John Kitson and his wife Anne (nee Dee) settled near Anne's dad, Stephen and his wife Bridget (nee Purtill) in Lisgurreen in the Einagh DED as recorded in the 1901 Census of Clare. Stephen apparently owned land according to Griffith's. John's children includes Bridget, Anne, James, my grandfather Michael, Patrick, John, Simon, Norah, Thomas, Margaret and Stephen. John is listed as a farmer. Ned Sweeney 6 McGrath St. Central Islip NY 11722 631-234-0354

The following new source of Irish maps has just been flagged to me: http://www.irishhistoricmaps.ie/historic/ It was mentioned in an article in the Boston Globe at http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/08/29/online_map_archive_an_i rish_genealogists_pot_of_gold/ A caveat for the Clare listers: before shelling out your EUR 5.00 per day for maps from the Ordnance Survey site, do check whether the map you want isn't already available and free of charge in the extensive and exquisitely browseable collection at www.clarelibrary.ie The old hands already know about that resource but I just thought I'd mention it for newcomers to Clare family history and local history. Padraig (the Paddy that was)

Hi, I seldom have a chance to contribute and thought this might be of interest. Regards, Jan FREE ACCESS FOR TO THE ORIGINS NETWORK FOR 24 HOURS ON THE 4th SEPTEMBER- LABOR DAY OFFER! The Origins Network (www.originsnetwork.com) is offering free access to both British and Irish Origins on the 4th September to celebrate US Labor Day. Free access will begin at: GMT - 00.00 GMT and will run until 08.00 GMT on 5 September 2006 (EST - 7pm EST until 3am EST on 5 September 2006). To access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and click on the link to sign up or login. The Origins Network services include subscription access to exclusive genealogy related collections on British Origins and Irish Origins, plus expert Scottish Old Parish records research on Scots Origins. Partnerships with leading archives and genealogical societies in the UK and Ireland, including the Society of Genealogists, the National Library of Ireland, Eneclann, Burke's Peerage and Gentry and the Borthwick Institute of Historical Research, allow exclusive online access to important primary sources, abstracts and index databases, including definitive versions of key Irish material (Griffith’s Valuation). A wide variety of datasets are available on both British and Irish Origins dating as far back as 1267 up to 1948.

Thanks Sharon I did a test and am receiving and sending posts ok, just lucky I guess. I appreciate your input Robert in Aus -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:16 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings Robert, If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and you are sending postings which appear online, then you do not have a problem. If you look back over the past week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- members have postings which appear since the list was migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know how many of them are waiting for something to appear after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened for you and not for others. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > Hi Sharon > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > Robert in Aus > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > from the list name. > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > inbox and making postings. > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had no > guidance on the problem. I just > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > Sharon Carberry > Georgia USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was forwarded from another list I'm on and I thought it may be of interest to our New South Wales listers.. sorry to bore others, but I don't have any other way of reaching them, Chris The following information was posted in the SAG August 2006 newsletter. Online Databases at State Library The State Library of New South Wales is running a trial that allows NSW residents who are registered readers to use various of the library's databases at home. The range of databases being trialled includes: Times Digital Archive, providing access to The Times (London) 1785- 1985 - including all the articles, advertisements, illustrations and photos. New York Times 1851-2003 and five other iconic American newspapers The full text of nearly 150,000 English-language 18th century titles ProQuest Australia and New Zealand Newsstand - full text of more than 40 newspapers, plus transcripts from ABC and BBC radio and TV. The period of coverage varies with the title - some go back as far as 1996; others only a year or so. INFORMIT Online - a wide range of Australian, Asia and Pacific research and information resources None of the family history databases available for use at the State Library is included in the trial, but the list above is expected to make the databases very popular and we hope it will become permanent. The Times Digital Archive, in particular, will be marvellous for British family history research! The trial does include a wide range of other material, less likely to be useful for family history research, but nonetheless well worth exploring! In order to use these various online databases from home, you need to be a resident of NSW, and have a Reader's Card. If you haven't got one of those you can apply for it online, but you'll need to wait (up to 10 days expected) for your card to arrive before you can log in to the trial. To make a start on this process, go to www.sl.nsw.gov.au and follow the link indicated in the above screenshot at the end of our red arrow.

Hi List Just testing to see if I am still subscribed. Robert in Aus

Kerry I am not going to make a big issue out of this. All that I want to say is firstly, Ms Carberry does have a name and in case you do not know, her name is Sharon. Secondly, if you would spend some time and go back through the Archives, just note the amount of help that has been given by MS.Carberry. Sharon has given valuable advice and information and will go out of her way to help anyone who is willing to help themselves. I would not hesitate to ask for her help at any time as we are both researching our East Clare ancestors. To take Sharon's comments as a complaint was obviously a mis-understanding on your part as a new list member. Please Kerry, do the right thing and apologise to Sharon and let us end the matter. Ernene Smedley Queensland, Australia -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:56 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Kerry Excuse me - my direct email address appears with each posting. I have made no complaint, and I was not posting in order to vent frustration. I took time to alert other listmembers as to an apparent need to re-subscribe. Then I answered Robert's question. That was not "complaining" - a judgmental label to express in this public forum. I would prefer that you tread lightly there and address such a thing in private with me. Concerning prior communication on this with the list administrator, there have been two of those, with no response. I would ordinarily omit mention of such a thing, but you have set this up otherwise. As to corrective steps on my own, I have done all that I can, by re-subscribing and then posting about the need to do so. I have continued my genealogy-oriented postings after re-subscribing. How about you? Where are your Clare postings other than your admonishment ? I see that you have made 4 this year, all in August, which indicates that you are new to the list. I have made 481 postings this year and over 1400 since joining some ten years ago. You need to have your facts straight and be able to correctly assess a situation if you are going to do well in this or any other endeavor. Sharon Carberry Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "KERRY C MC*GRATH" <ciarraideia@msn.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > Ms. Carberry: > > Have you contacted the listmistress and notified her of the problem. I understand your frustration, however, rather than complaining on-line, how about taking steps to correct the situation. > > Kerry McGrath > Iowa USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Carberry<mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net> > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > > > Robert, > > If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and > you are sending postings which appear online, then you > do not have a problem. If you look back over the past > week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- > members have postings which appear since the list was > migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know > how many of them are waiting for something to appear > after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently > is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until > they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. > > If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, > consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened > for you and not for others. > > Sharon C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au<mailto:rdo40224@bigpond.net.au>> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > Hi Sharon > > > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > > > Robert in Aus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com> > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > > from the list name. > > > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > > inbox and making postings. > > > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had > no > > guidance on the problem. I just > > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > > > Sharon Carberry > > Georgia USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sharon I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? Robert in Aus -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb website in order to see list postings because the new ones are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had the same problem and solved it yesterday by re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could continue without interruption on my end, only that the list itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" from the list name. I have been trying to make postings throughout the list migration period and finally yesterday received a return message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own inbox and making postings. I am assuming that others are having the same experience. Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had no guidance on the problem. I just did this caveman-style and it worked. Sharon Carberry Georgia USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alanna, That is a good question but not within my experience as I have never had to obtain an obit from the Clare Champion. Possibly another listmember who has does so, can post about hes/her experience. What occurs to me is this: 1. Google every which way to see if someone else has posted it online. 2. Contact the Clare Champion to see if they, like the U.S. newspapers, offer past articles for a small fee. 3. Throw yourself on the mercy of the Clare Library staff to see if they can provide the obit, which hopefully is very brief. 4. Hire the known Clare resident who is on this list and who provides gen. services, likely for a very moderate fee (sorry but Rootsweb rules forbid my saying who). Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alanna Scanlon" <alannal@prodigy.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Question to Sharon 'nother subject > Dear Sharon, > > I have probably just forgotten how to do what I am asking. > > If one finds an obit on the Clare Champion, how does one obtain the full article? > > Thank you. > > Alanna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > >

Ernene, Paddy, Liz, Jeanne, and anyone else who may have posted or thought of posting about my reply to Kerry - You are all very sweet to have provided postings of support. However, if you noticed, I was very explicit in my reply to Kerry. I think she got the message. Remember that she is a newbie to the list. We do welcome her but she needs to know that we have a certain culture on this list, which differs from Internet culture in general. No on goes for the jugular on this list if we can possibly avoid it. We would far rather help than undercut each other. So, let's move forward. Thank you, one and all. I must have been thick-headed to have had to re-subscribe after all that wondering on my part. Everyone else seems to have figured it out just fine. That's great - I was worried that you all were not still on the list. Have a great evening, Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernene Smedley" <ernene@tpg.com.au> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Kerry > Kerry > I am not going to make a big issue out of this. All that I want to say is > firstly, Ms Carberry does have a name and in case you do not know, her name > is Sharon. > Secondly, if you would spend some time and go back through the Archives, > just note the amount of help that has been given by MS.Carberry. > Sharon has given valuable advice and information and will go out of her way > to help anyone who is willing to help themselves. I would not hesitate to > ask for her help at any time as we are both researching our East Clare > ancestors. > To take Sharon's comments as a complaint was obviously a mis-understanding > on your part as a new list member. > Please Kerry, do the right thing and apologise to Sharon and let us end the > matter. > > Ernene Smedley > Queensland, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:56 AM > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Kerry > > Excuse me - my direct email address appears with each > posting. I have made no complaint, and I was not posting > in order to vent frustration. I took time to alert other listmembers as to > an apparent need to re-subscribe. Then I > answered Robert's question. That was not "complaining" - > a judgmental label to express in this public forum. I would > prefer that you tread lightly there and address such a thing > in private with me. > > Concerning prior communication on this with the list administrator, there > have been two of those, with no response. I would ordinarily omit mention > of such a thing, but you have set this up otherwise. As to corrective steps > on my own, I have done all that I can, by re-subscribing and then posting > about the need to do so. I have continued my > genealogy-oriented postings after re-subscribing. > > How about you? Where are your Clare postings other > than your admonishment ? I see that you have made 4 > this year, all in August, which indicates that you are new > to the list. I have made 481 postings this year and over > 1400 since joining some ten years ago. You need to > have your facts straight and be able to correctly assess > a situation if you are going to do well in this or any other > endeavor. > > Sharon Carberry > Georgia >

Kerry, Sharon was not complaining. She was pointing out a possible issue and suggesting, in her usual positive manner, possible causes. She is an experienced, heavy* and highly valued contributor to the list. She is unlikely to need a tutorial on matters like this. Regarding the role of the listmistress: assuming that she is monitoring the list, the listmistress is presumably aware of what is going on and should not need to be contacted. She will surely chip in as and when needed. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) * I refer to the weight of her contributions, not her nutritional state. -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KERRY C MC*GRATH Sent: 31 August 2006 16:35 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings Ms. Carberry: Have you contacted the listmistress and notified her of the problem. I understand your frustration, however, rather than complaining on-line, how about taking steps to correct the situation. Kerry McGrath Iowa USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Carberry<mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net> To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings Robert, If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and you are sending postings which appear online, then you do not have a problem. If you look back over the past week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- members have postings which appear since the list was migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know how many of them are waiting for something to appear after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened for you and not for others. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au<mailto:rdo40224@bigpond.net.au>> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > Hi Sharon > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > Robert in Aus > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > from the list name. > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > inbox and making postings. > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had no > guidance on the problem. I just > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > Sharon Carberry > Georgia USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I too would like to thank Sharon because I was also having problems with the list and through her usual kindness I was able to get sorted out. Thanks Sharon. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > Yes, Liz, "ugh" is right. And yes, I know Liz's email went to the list accidentally. This is, too, going to the list. Kerry, I didn't take Sharon's posting as a complaint, but as her usual helpful demeanor. Sharon encountered a problem personally, found out how to resolve it for herself and then posted what she discovered to help anyone else who also has encountered the problem. This topic dealt directly with genealogy as many people use this list to gain insight on research techniques and resources. If some members have suddenly become unsubbed, as Sharon experienced, they cannot gain anything from the list to help them with their family history researching. > > I have a request to make of all of us still hanging onto an ever-changing medium of communication. Let's try to abide by Cara's initial request to use the list for research purposes only. Comments like yours, Kerry, are very detrimental to the morale, and they fail to further anybody's research, unlike what Sharon posts. > > Jeanne > > Liz Haren <lizharen@gmail.com> wrote: > ugh > > On 8/31/06, KERRY C MC*GRATH wrote: > > Ms. Carberry: > > > > Have you contacted the listmistress and notified her of the problem. I understand your frustration, however, rather than complaining on-line, how about taking steps to correct the situation. > > > > Kerry McGrath > > Iowa USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sharon Carberry > > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > > > > > > Robert, > > > > If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and > > you are sending postings which appear online, then you > > do not have a problem. If you look back over the past > > week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- > > members have postings which appear since the list was > > migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know > > how many of them are waiting for something to appear > > after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently > > is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until > > they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. > > > > If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, > > consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened > > for you and not for others. > > > > Sharon C. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Craig Doherty" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > > > > Hi Sharon > > > > > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > > > > > Robert in Aus > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > > > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > > > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > > > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > > > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > > > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > > > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > > > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > > > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > > > from the list name. > > > > > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > > > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > > > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > > > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > > > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > > > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > > > inbox and making postings. > > > > > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > > > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had > > no > > > guidance on the problem. I just > > > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > > > > > Sharon Carberry > > > Georgia USA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just adding my McNamara. I have Bridget McNamara, born Clouna, c1827 - died 1903. Married Johnny Callinan born Ballytarsna, Kilshanny - died 1877. Jackie/Melbourne Hi Shane, I think you are very lucky to have a forename like Mortimore. For me it is Patrick, Elizabeth (FITZPATRICKs), Michael, John (COLLINSes), Mary McNAMARA and Joann PURCELL! You are right-McNAMARAs are all around Co. Clare. I am concentrating on the ones that are near Patrick FITZPATRICKS according to Griffith's Valuation. You might want to do the same for McNAMARA and HAYES if you haven't yet. Those places and the McNAMARAs found there are: 1.) Clooney, South Clooney Ennistimon William, John, Matthew, Michael, Daniel, Patrick, & Thomas McNamara

I am seeking help as I am compiling biographical material on Admiral Thomas Macnamara Russell, commissioned Lieutenant 02 June 1776, who served for 30 months thereafter in my local waters. The Dictionary of National Biography (DNB) lists: "Thomas Macnamara Russell (1740?-1824), admiral, born about 1740, is described as the son of an Englishman who settled in Ireland, where he married a Miss Macnamara, probably a daughter and coheiress of Sheedy Macnamara of Balyally, co. Clare. On the death of his father when he was five years old, he is said to have inherited a large fortune, which, by the carelessness or dishonesty of his trustees, disappeared before he was fourteen. This was probably the cause of his going to sea. . . ." The date of birth is reconstructed from his Lieutenant's passing Certificate which lists his age as 32 on 02 Dec 1772. I would assume that a landowner with minor children under guardianship would have had a will or at least some some of probate administration. I have read that many wills were lost to fire in Dublin in 1922; however, I have also read that abstracts made in 1897 have survived. Can anyone inform me as to any Russell wills for the period 1740-1750 might be extant. How about a will for a "Sheedy Macnamara"? What parish would most likely contain records of a family from "Ballyally"? Have any records for the 1740s survived? Is "Ballyally" the townslands "Ballyallia" in Templemaley, Upper Bunratty? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine, USA

Hi, I'm using this list to contact you because there isn't any address for you listed that I can see. Since the change I've noticed that my other mailing lists have an active url to contact the list administrator. Is this a Rootsweb thing or is it up to the individual who has the list? It is very helpful to have. More important to me ,being on the Digest mode, is a change to MIME Attachments from plain text, which we have now in in Digest mode. Another List Adm. explained to me that when Rootsweb made the new changes, Digest mode defaulted to plain text, which took away the ability to click on the messages you choose to read rather than having to scroll through all of them. The List Adm. suggested that she change me to MIME attachments which works just like the former way. Would you do that for me? Thanks for administering such a great list. Lorraine.

Hi Elaine, You have discovered my problem. I have NO idea where my Mary McNamara was from. I only know that there were McNAMARAs in the same placs as some Patrick FITZPATRICKs (from Griffiths Valulation Lists). I know of Mary McNamara only from my Eliza Fitzpatrick's marriage records from 1853 in St. Louis, MO. Eliza having been b. in 1829 would make her mother b. around 1809 + or - ? Hi Jackie, Thanks for adding your McNamara name. I will include it in the list I am compiling. Jo Banks > Hi Jo, > > Are you related to the Ballyvaughan, Gleninagh McNamaras? > > Elaine >

Excuse me - my direct email address appears with each posting. I have made no complaint, and I was not posting in order to vent frustration. I took time to alert other listmembers as to an apparent need to re-subscribe. Then I answered Robert's question. That was not "complaining" - a judgmental label to express in this public forum. I would prefer that you tread lightly there and address such a thing in private with me. Concerning prior communication on this with the list administrator, there have been two of those, with no response. I would ordinarily omit mention of such a thing, but you have set this up otherwise. As to corrective steps on my own, I have done all that I can, by re-subscribing and then posting about the need to do so. I have continued my genealogy-oriented postings after re-subscribing. How about you? Where are your Clare postings other than your admonishment ? I see that you have made 4 this year, all in August, which indicates that you are new to the list. I have made 481 postings this year and over 1400 since joining some ten years ago. You need to have your facts straight and be able to correctly assess a situation if you are going to do well in this or any other endeavor. Sharon Carberry Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "KERRY C MC*GRATH" <ciarraideia@msn.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > Ms. Carberry: > > Have you contacted the listmistress and notified her of the problem. I understand your frustration, however, rather than complaining on-line, how about taking steps to correct the situation. > > Kerry McGrath > Iowa USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Carberry<mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net> > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > > > Robert, > > If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and > you are sending postings which appear online, then you > do not have a problem. If you look back over the past > week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- > members have postings which appear since the list was > migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know > how many of them are waiting for something to appear > after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently > is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until > they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. > > If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, > consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened > for you and not for others. > > Sharon C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au<mailto:rdo40224@bigpond.net.au>> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > Hi Sharon > > > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > > > Robert in Aus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com> > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > > from the list name. > > > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > > inbox and making postings. > > > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had > no > > guidance on the problem. I just > > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > > > Sharon Carberry > > Georgia USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 >

ugh On 8/31/06, KERRY C MC*GRATH <ciarraideia@msn.com> wrote: > Ms. Carberry: > > Have you contacted the listmistress and notified her of the problem. I understand your frustration, however, rather than complaining on-line, how about taking steps to correct the situation. > > Kerry McGrath > Iowa USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Carberry<mailto:sm8carberry@comcast.net> > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] response to Robert about receiving postings > > > Robert, > > If you are receiving Clare list postings in your inbox and > you are sending postings which appear online, then you > do not have a problem. If you look back over the past > week, you will see that almost none of the longtime list- > members have postings which appear since the list was > migrated to the new server by Rootsweb. I don't know > how many of them are waiting for something to appear > after the list migration is complete (which is now apparently > is) and have not caught on that they are off the list until > they re-subscribe, as I found that I had to do. > > If you did not have to do anything to stay subscribed, > consider yourself lucky. I have no idea how that happened > for you and not for others. > > Sharon C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au<mailto:rdo40224@bigpond.net.au>> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > Hi Sharon > > > > I don't think I understand, how can I know if I have a problem? > > > > Robert in Aus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com> > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry > > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2006 7:38 PM > > To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] For those having difficulty receiving postings > > > > If anyone is coming to the Clare list archives on the Rootsweb > > website in order to see list postings because the new ones > > are not appearing in your inbox provided via your internet service, I had > > the same problem and solved it yesterday by > > re-subscribing. It had been my expectation that I could > > continue without interruption on my end, only that the list > > itself was migrating to a new server and would drop the "L" > > from the list name. > > > > I have been trying to make postings throughout the list > > migration period and finally yesterday received a return > > message from Rootsweb, stating that the list administrator > > would be reviewing my proffered posting since it is from a > > non-member (meaning me). I then re-subscribed and I am > > back to the former capacity of receiving postings in my own > > inbox and making postings. > > > > I am assuming that others are having the same experience. > > Other than the one automatically-generated message yesterday, I have had > no > > guidance on the problem. I just > > did this caveman-style and it worked. > > > > Sharon Carberry > > Georgia USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >