www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-500-e.html ----- Original Message ----- From: padraigogealagain To: IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com ; irl-clare@rootsweb.com ; IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com ; cotipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: Canadain Immigrant Archived Sources For those of you who are searching for Irish to Canada, check this site out. It is interesting to read, even if you aren't successful in your particular search. Films not on line are available through Inter-Library loan, at least in Canada, if not elsewhere ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please! ***** ***** And, thanks for such consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar

Hi Tony I'm also looking for CASEY in Kilfenorra, if you're not already swamped Thanks, Clara

Hi Toni, It is very good of you to make this offer, I wonder if the index covers the Ballyvaughan, Gleninagh, Murroughhtooy area. I would be grateful for any Halloran, McMahon, Casey. Much appreciate your help. Regards, Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Mason" <tmason@stny.rr.com> To: <IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > Hi, > > I currently have the Index of births from Ireland for the year l866. If anyone would like me to check out a name I would be glad to do it. > > I enjoy this list and have received a lot of good advice and would like to reciprocate. > > I only have this microfilm for another week so please just one or two names. > > Toni > Southern Tier NYS > > Researching: GUINANE, HOURIHAN, CURRY, BOLAND, WALSH, MULHOLLAND, OMALLEY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe digest posts has always arrived in batches of attachments. There has been talk about the ability for US to attach files to our listmail posts, but I have no direct word from Rootsweb on that. It would be better I think to set back and check out anything that sounds like rumor. Many people on this list understands the part of the system we work with every day, but we don't know what other goodies we will have when the whole process begins to properly work. Meanwhile RW is working 24-7 to put out little brushfires with the new list format, as we all know. As list admins we will take care of each problem one by one until the whole system works together. Thanks all and have a great day. Donal O'Collaugh O'Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-Limerick@rootsweb.com>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] IRL-CORK Digest,Attachments now being sent with these ? > Yes, I asked the same question of the Admin. person at Co.Clare - but I > didn't get an answer - probably because she's still on holidays in > Ireland. > You'll have to ask Mr. Billingsworth, The List Admin. > The recent changes that Rootsweb introduced , seems to have this about. My > positive thought was - Great! Rootsweb are now allowing attachments to be > sent to Lists - but I don't think so. Although it would be a good idea in > that we could send Scans of genealogical items, such as certificates of > B.D.M's. to the List. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EAlt117@aol.com> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 4 >

Thankyou very much for your trouble with that info I will investigate that further Regards Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor" <hdiarky@charter.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] James Costello in Clare > Hello, > > There likely were several men named James Costello living in County Clare > in > the 1800's. At least one lived in or near the townland of Derryhalla as > shown by this baptismal reference: > > 1830-- "28th of Jan. was baptized Briget daughter to Patrick Halloran of > Derry Halla and to Briget Dologhty his wife. James Costelloe and Margaret > Costelloe were sponsors. James Meade." > > > > The LDS microfilm #0926096 "Parish Register, Diocese of Killaloe, Parish > of > Quin and Clooney contain baptisms from Jan. 4, 1816 to March 1, 1855 and > marriages from Jan. 29, 1833 to Feb. 14, 1855. > > > > > > Pat Halloran and his wife Bridget Doloughty lived in Derryhalla. Their > children were Mary Halloran (1828), Bridget Halloran (1830), Pat Halloran > (1832), Mary Halloran (1834), Kitty [or Biddy] Halloran (1842), John > Halloran (1845) and James Halloran (1848). Sponsors at these baptisms > included John Dologhty, Nancy Russell, Nancy Doologhty (twice) [possibly > the > same person as Nancy Russell], James Costelloe, Margaret Costelloe, John > McMahon, Peg Halloran, John Molony, Mary Molony and Bridget (L)ea(r)y [or > Meany]. > > > > > And we probably have another James Costello: > > 1834--"[Jan.] 19th Mary of (James?) Costelloe and Bridget Murphy. Mary > Doolaghty. Derrynaguillan." > > > > > > Good luck on your search. > > > > > > Thor Conway > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Toni, I'd be grateful for any information on O'Grady and Cooney in East clare or North Limerick -- Jon O'Grady, Sydney, Australia Interested in: East Clare families: O'GRADY, COONEY, QUINLAN/QUINLIVAN, KELLY, EGAN North Limerick families: RIEDY, HUNT South Tipperary families: FINN, MASON, HEALEY Western Victoria: BULL, DEVEREAUX, O'GRADY Central & NE Victoria, O'GRADY, EGAN, KELLY, NOONAN Melbourne: FINN, OGRADY, RIEDY

Boy, I could go on for hours on this one. But, as stated in my previous message about coats of arms, only the registrar is authorized to use the coat of arms and it may only be passed down through first sons. When the first sons line dies out, the arms stop. At present, a simple coat of arms through the Chief Heralds Office runs 3000 Euro. A reduction in cost will be announced after the current Bill pending in the Irish Senate (Heraldry & Genealogy Bill - 2006) passes. Although there are many mixed feelings about O'Hart, there is a lot of information to work with. When you combine it with Keating, Four Masters, O'Laughlin, MacLysaght and others, you come out with a better understanding of history. I will point out that although Gleeson does not have any relation to O'Brien, McFadden (variation of Padden) and Noonan are cousins to the O'Briens as they all descend from Cormac Cas (DalgCais). Their arms are different than O'Brien. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Family Coat Of Arms: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [GIRL-CLARE] Family Coat Of Arms: > > >> Came across this site in my travels: >> >> http://www.heraldry.ws/index.html >> >> Coats of Arms from Ireland and around the World by Eddie Geoghegan. >> This site is a gallery of coats of arms or heraldic graphics. It is FREE. >> You may browse as much as you want for as long as you want. No membership >> is >> required and there is no limit to how many coats of arms graphics you may >> view. >> Regards: >>Larry. > > Well, this is a nice site, but I think FREE means browsing only, although > the webpage also refers to FREE blazons from around the world. I wonder > what he means by 'FREE', because you likely know, there are no Generic > Free > blazons. This, on question to them, was verified for me several years ago > by > the Genealogical Office, Dublin. > > They pointed out that Coats are owned only by the person or family for > whom > they were granted. The Genealogical office will create one for anyone, in > accordance with one's design, provided it doesn't clash with another > person's one - but it is very expensive - about $5-6 thousand dollars. For > commercial enterprises it is a tax write- off, but not for us poor plebes, > even if we could afford the cost > > Also very interesting in that site was this foot note excerpt about the > book > of O'Hart's > Genealogies : > > "..."Irish Pedigrees or the Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation", by John > O'Hart is one of the best known Irish genealogical publications in the > world. The first edition appeared in 1876, but was followed by several > subsequent editions that added greatly to the overall size of the work. > The > most quoted edition was published in New York in 1923, twenty years after > the author's death. It is worth mentioning here that the original work did > not include and heraldic (coat of arms) information and that this was > added > to posthumous publications by unscrupulous publishers, presumably to > increase sales. In general, O'Hart is a dubious source, at best, for such > information (see quote below from Edward MacLysaght in regard to this > topic). > > John O'Hart was born in Crossmolina, Co. Mayo, in 1824. He received an > excellent education with the intention of joining the priesthood. However, > he instead spent two years in the constabulary (the police), after which > he > was employed by the Commissioners of National Education in Ireland from > 1845, the first year of the Famine. He became an Associate in Arts at the > Queen's University, and thereafter he was an active member of several > scholarly societies. He was an avid genealogist and took a keen interest > in > Irish history, despite never receiving formal training as an historian. > Politically he was an Irish nationalist, and in religious matters, a > committed Catholic. Both of these factors permeated his work. He died in > 1902 in Clontarf, Co. Dublin, at the age of 78. > > O'Hart used many sources to compile the information that appears in his > major work. His principal sources were Gaelic genealogies, like those of > O'Clery, MacFirbis and O'Farrell. Along with the Gaelic annals, especially > the Annals of the Four Masters, O'Hart was able to 'reconstruct' the > medieval and ancient pedigrees that appear here. He also used later > sources, > like the works of Burke, Collins, Harris, Lodge and Ware to extend these > lineages into the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. But arguably the > most > important information contained in these genealogies came where O'Hart > gathered the details directly from the families concerned, often from > private papers or family tradition. These sections concern the later > period, > particularly post 1800, and are good for many specific localities like > western Co. Clare. > > There are two types of genealogies in O'Hart; the genealogies of the > Gaelic > families and the genealogies of Anglo-Norman and other later settlers. > O'Hart made one important distinction in his treatment of these. Irish > mythology records that every family was descended from a certain Milesius > of > Spain who in about 1700 BC led his followers to invade and conquer > Ireland. > The Christian monks who wrote these genealogies down in the 9th century, > 2,500 years after Milesius, also added their own beliefs. So they recorded > that Milesius was the 36th in descent from Adam! O'Hart, being both an > ardent believer in the Gaelic myths and Christianity, followed their > example. In his Gaelic genealogies a number representing the generation of > descent from Adam precedes every generation. By contrast the Anglo-Normans > and later invaders made no such claims, so O'Hart's genealogies of these > families do not include these numbers. O'Hart showed, probably > incorrectly, > that every Gaelic family was descended from four of Milesius's family. > These > were his three sons, Heber, Ir and Heremon, and his uncle Ithe. These four > were considered the 'stem' lines of the genealogies that followed. > While he undertook a great deal of research, using the majority of > available > published sources, many Gaelic scholars have superseded his work over the > last 100 years. He was not familiar with the abundant unpublished Gaelic > manuscript sources available. These have shown that many of his > genealogies > are incorrect for the years prior to 1600 AD. Furthermore, O'Hart was not > a > professional historian or genealogist, and had little training in using > the > esoteric sources he consulted. As a consequence he misunderstood a great > deal about Gaelic society and culture, a world which had largely > disappeared > from Ireland long before he put pen to paper. He was also credulous in > using > the sources he did consult, believing that the myths were fact. > > Despite these limitations, careful use of his work can be very productive. > His genealogies for the years after 1600 have great value, and are often > unavailable elsewhere. He was also able to consult many sources which have > since been destroyed or lost. In the words of Edward MacLysaght, Ireland's > most famous authority on the history of surnames, he 'made use of it > almost > daily'. > > In relation to O'Hart and other similar publications, MacLysaght, also > warns: > > "The subject of Irish families is one in which much interest is evinced, > but > the popular books usually consulted and regarded as authoritative, > particularly in America, are in fact unreliable. The inaccurate and > misleading information thus imparted with cumulative effect is, however, > much more deplorable in the armorial [coats of arms] sphere than in the > genealogical. It is an indisputable fact that the publication presenting > colour plates of Irish arms which is probably most widely consulted is no > less than seventy per cent inaccurate, not only in mere detail, but often > in > points of primary importance and of an elementary kind. Apart from their > many grotesque heraldic blunders the compilers of this work seem to have > had > a sort of rule of thumb; if they could not find arms for one Irish sept > they > looked for the name of another somewhat resembling it in sound: thus, for > example, they coolly assigned the arms of Boylan to Boland. This > frequently > resulted in the arms of some purely English family being inserted in their > book of "Irish Arms" the Saxon Huggins being equated with O'Higgins, and > so > on. When this arbitrary method failed them they fell back on the arms of > some great Irish sept. To quote one instance of this: Gleeson, Noonan and > McFadden are all given the arms of O'Brien, though none of these septs had > any connexion whatever with the O'Briens or with each other. Consequently > many Americans of Irish descent are in good faith using erroneous and > often > English arms derived from the spurious source in question. > > A certain cachet has been given to this because, in the more recent > editions > of O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, these same coloured plates have been inserted > as if they were an integral part of O'Hart's book. The serious genealogist > uses O'Hart with caution, if at all, for he is a far from reliable > authority > except for the quite modern period. John O'Hart, however, undoubtedly did > a > vast amount of research, no matter how he used the information he > acquired: > I know that some of these errors of ascription can actually be traced to > him, but it is surely an injustice to him that his well-known name should > be > used as a cover for the propagation of false and often ludicrous heraldic > statements." > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

To put it simply, a family coat of arms belongs only to the family that registered the arms. To be more specific, the person that registered the arms is the owner, which is a play on words as the Chief Heralds Office owns the copyright but the individual has the authority to display the arms. Heredity is tricky. The first son my inherit the original arms. A second or third son may use the original as a basic arms but must difference it slightly. No other family may use the arms just because they have the same name. On the other hand, the crest is designated as belong to all families of the name. And many will add the crest to their own personal arms, even though it may be different. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <jcd622@sbcglobal.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Family Coat Of Arms: > The Subject line says "Family Coat of Arms." I was under the impression > that a Coat of Arms was made for an individual, not a "family" and that it > is something that cannot be passed down or inherited. > > Joseph > > > Larry Brennan <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> wrote: > Came across this site in my travels: > > http://www.heraldry.ws/index.html > > Coats of Arms from Ireland and around the World by Eddie Geoghegan. > This site is a gallery of coats of arms or heraldic graphics. It is FREE. > You may browse as much as you want for as long as you want. No membership > is > required and there is no limit to how many coats of arms graphics you may > view. > > Regards: > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Many years ago my mother bought my brothers and I these beautiful sweaters with the "Haran" coat of arms embroidered on the chest. I gently teased my mother for years about this being the coat of arms of all the tenant farmers in County Clare. I still have the sweater and now I miss Mom. The sweater brings one of those warm fuzzy smiles every time. Mike -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:58 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Family Coat Of Arms: Came across this site in my travels: http://www.heraldry.ws/index.html Coats of Arms from Ireland and around the World by Eddie Geoghegan. This site is a gallery of coats of arms or heraldic graphics. It is FREE. You may browse as much as you want for as long as you want. No membership is required and there is no limit to how many coats of arms graphics you may view. Regards: Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Civil registration films at the LDS will, insofar, as areas are concerned, will show only the PLU's ( Reg. Dists). Go to www.seanruad.com and it will show all PLU's and their respective townlands by just entering Co.Clare (or any other county), then check the button for PLU, and the Province button ( in this case ; Munster ) A print of out that List will prove useful in the event you search later at the LDS for BDM's.

Looking for JOYNT or JOINT references - Corrofin / Corofin, please. The following was from the death index- same year and may be my ggg grandfather but as yet unproven. Superintendant Registrar's District Corrofin, Registrar's District Corrofin, Deaths Registered in the District of Corrofin in the Union of Corrofin in the County of Clare. No.: 227 Date and Place of Death: fifteenth April 1866 at Poulataggle Name and Surname: Edmond Joynt Sex: Male Condition: Married Age Last Birthday: 82 years Rank, Profession or Occupation: Farmer Certified Cause of Death, and Duration of Illness: Tumor on Jaw five years Signature, Qualification, and Residence of Informant: Thos. Mullins, Poulataggle, present at death When Registered: Twentieth April 1866 Same family was still on same land in 1901 census. For further info: http://www.celticcousins.net/joynt/poulataggle.htm Cathy Joynt Labath

For those of you who are searching for Irish to Canada, check this site out. It is interesting to read, even if you aren't successful in your particular search. Films not on line are available through Inter-Library loan, at least in Canada, if not elsewhere ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please! ***** ***** And, thanks for such consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar

Yes, I understand fully, as I am presently checking the Canadian census films on-line for a namesake for Carleton County ( Ottawa Area) - about 90% in the townships - as they are called, are Irish of both religious persuasions. The enumerator who did the return for Fitzroy Township (the focus of my search) had not only fine readable script, but thanks to him I found the county of search person, as he wrote more than the bare answer to the column of "Place of Birth". Other enumerators in adjacent townships just wrote "Ireland", or U.C or L.C (Upper and Lower Canada), as it was still known in that year of 185.1 Considering the lots of land (100 acres, yes complete at the time with scrub land and woods) Accommodation was 'Shanty' ( from the Irish: Sean Tighe: old house); or Log Cabin ; or frame House. Life for those pioneers must have been tougher than we can imagine. The very large percentage of Irish settlers tended to make me think that there must have been some scheme organised there with the governments, and in Ireland by the land-owners to get rid of the poor crofters and cabin renters who were in perpetual arrears of rent ( the majority, as we all know ). An official question in another column asked if absent from the homestead, where a person was. The answer in many cases was "Up the Ottawa" or Up the Ganaraska" later, due to a note an enumerator had added, he explained that this meant they were up river 'Lumbering' in the woods for the export trade. Which many farmers did until the spring ploughing time came - which would be early May in Southern Ontario. So lumbering was done at this time March 31st period for the Quebec and Ontario export trade. Many of the Irish ships who bought passengers out to Quebec, came back to Ireland with lumber felled and cut by other Irish emigrants! Then there were other enumerators who loved to hand write using very 'flowery; style, replete with curlicues (sp?) which style of hand-writing made it, in many instances, impossible to interpret the names or trades. Here is an unusual entry for a native family : " Indian, Squaw ; [Children]: Indian No.1; Indian No.2; Indian No.3 ; [ditto for 4 &5] " The above goes to show that they weren't important then, and from recent Indian happenings in Ontario, and Quebec, they aren't important now - shame, isn't it? It reminded me of the sad history of Ireland, and of how we Irish were treated by the Sassenach invaders! www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-500-e.html > -----Original Message----- > From: padraigogealagain@rogers.com > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > > You mean Scariff - don't you?

The Subject line says "Family Coat of Arms." I was under the impression that a Coat of Arms was made for an individual, not a "family" and that it is something that cannot be passed down or inherited. Joseph Larry Brennan <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> wrote: Came across this site in my travels: http://www.heraldry.ws/index.html Coats of Arms from Ireland and around the World by Eddie Geoghegan. This site is a gallery of coats of arms or heraldic graphics. It is FREE. You may browse as much as you want for as long as you want. No membership is required and there is no limit to how many coats of arms graphics you may view. Regards: Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Toni - I am aklso researching Guinane (originally from Co Limerick, some moved to Co Cork, and possibly Co Clare). Also the surname Rainsford for Co Limerick & Co Tipperary. I would greatly appreciate knowing what your info shows for births of these names in the noted counties! Thank you, Nancy Peregrine I currently have the Index of births from Ireland for the year l866. If anyone would like me to check out a name I would be glad to do it. I enjoy this list and have received a lot of good advice and would like to reciprocate. I only have this microfilm for another week so please just one or two names. Toni Southern Tier NYS Researching: GUINANE, HOURIHAN, CURRY, BOLAND, WALSH, MULHOLLAND, OMALLEY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Toni, Would appreciate any McDonald births from any area. Many thanks, Marianne

Toni please copy me on any Thomas McNamara's, thanks. Jim McNamara ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index - Scuriff/Scariff > Thanks Padraig. > Trying to read some terrible writing! > > Jenny > > > -----Original Message----- > From: padraigogealagain@rogers.com > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > > You mean Scariff - don't you? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jnnyb@aol.com> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > > >> Hello Toni, >> >> Thank-you for your kind offer. I hope you're not overwhelmed. >> If you have the time, could you please look for: >> >> BLACKBOURNE/BLACKBURN etc, John Walter @ Dublin >> McNAMARA, James @ Scuriff, Clare >> best wishes, >> >> Jenny >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tmason@stny.rr.com >> To: IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 5:30 AM >> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index >> >> Hi, >> >> I currently have the Index of births from Ireland for the year l866. If >> anyone >> would like me to check out a name I would be glad to do it. >> >> I enjoy this list and have received a lot of good advice and would like >> to >> reciprocate. >> >> I only have this microfilm for another week so please just one or two >> names. >> >> Toni >> Southern Tier NYS >> >> Researching: GUINANE, HOURIHAN, CURRY, BOLAND, WALSH, MULHOLLAND, >> OMALLEY >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and >> security >> tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the >> web, >> free AOL Mail and more. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Toni I am researching the Boland line - Where are your Boland's from - Mine are from Tullaghaboy ,Count Clare. My Boland's seem to be tied up with the Curry/Corry. They emigrated to Australia in 1845. Frances,Launceston,Tasmania

Hello Toni, Thank you for offering to check the 1866 births for Ireland. Could you please check for any Dinans and Hartnedy(Hartneady, Hartnady) in East Clare? Many thanks in advance. Mary Wilkinson -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of irl-clare-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:16 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 13 Today's Topics: 1. Re: l866 Index (Christine Bauman) 2. Re: Monthly Meeting reference (Sharon Carberry) 3. names for Toni please (Jocelyn Harvey) 4. Re: Monthly Meeting reference (Teri Rehurek) 5. Re: Monthly Meeting reference (Sharon Carberry) 6. Re: [CLARE] emigrant ship questions (Shanalain@aol.com) 7. James Costello in Clare (Thor) 8. Robert & Elizabeth Hanna (Howard Hanna) 9. Re: l866 Index re CARMODY (marymmccawjr@aol.com) 10. Re: l866 Index (April Ashton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:56:56 -0400 From: "Christine Bauman" <chris.bauman@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <007a01c6d428$938fc110$6401a8c0@Shadowfax> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'd be interested in any CARMODY individuals in the index. Thank you so much for anything you can find. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Mason" <tmason@stny.rr.com> To: <IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > Hi, > > I currently have the Index of births from Ireland for the year l866. If > anyone would like me to check out a name I would be glad to do it. > > I enjoy this list and have received a lot of good advice and would like to > reciprocate. > > I only have this microfilm for another week so please just one or two > names. > > Toni > Southern Tier NYS > > Researching: GUINANE, HOURIHAN, CURRY, BOLAND, WALSH, MULHOLLAND, OMALLEY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:57:09 -0400 From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Monthly Meeting reference To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001601c6d428$9b4a5c80$9865fea9@Clark> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Teri, "Monthly meeting" refers to the Society of Friends aka Quakers. They normally kept comprehensive records, many of which have been preserved for centuries. The monthly meeting would be where an area's members met and thus their jurisdictional term. Without any intention of insulting you, I highly recommend that you get hold of one of these two books (below) and read up on Irish records in general. Until you obtain an adequate knowledge base, doing research without knowing some basics is like going to a movie without your eyeglasses. You really will enjoy doing genealogy much, much more if you can instantly recognize what you are seeing. Sharon Carberry Irish records : sources for family and local history Ryan, James G. ISBN 0916489760 Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teri Rehurek" <orke712@hotmail.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > > List > > I am hoping someone can help me with this question. I was helping someone with some look ups up North. They asked me what the reference below would mean. I have seen this on other entries > I wondered why it would be included and what it means. > > Birth 02 JAN 1793 Of, Lisburn Monthly Meeting, Antrim, Ireland > > > > Thanks > Teri > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:30:11 -0400 From: "Jocelyn Harvey" <jocelynharvey@rogers.com> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] names for Toni please To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006e01c6d42d$395311c0$358a694a@phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Toni, Thanks so much for your offer to look up names in the 1866 book. Do you find anything for Barrington or Stack in Ennistymon parish? Many thanks, Jocelyn Harvey ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:33:42 -0600 From: "Teri Rehurek" <orke712@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Monthly Meeting reference To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV1767BE1A39E456B1E1B6F9E8340@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sharon Thank You. I have read the 2nd, possibly not that thoroughly . I now remember the Terminology. It has not been something I have run a lot. For the most part I have been dealing Irish Catholics. I still do not quite understand the concept of including with a birth listing. Does in instantly identify them as Quakers? Thanks again Teri "Monthly meeting" refers to the Society of Friends aka Quakers. They normally kept comprehensive records, many of which have been preserved for centuries. The monthly meeting would be where an area's members met and thus their jurisdictional term. Without any intention of insulting you, I highly recommend that you get hold of one of these two books (below) and read up on Irish records in general. Until you obtain an adequate knowledge base, doing research without knowing some basics is like going to a movie without your eyeglasses. You really will enjoy doing genealogy much, much more if you can instantly recognize what you are seeing. Sharon Carberry Irish records : sources for family and local history Ryan, James G. ISBN 0916489760 Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teri Rehurek" <orke712@hotmail.com<mailto:orke712@hotmail.com>> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-clare@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > > List > > I am hoping someone can help me with this question. I was helping someone with some look ups up North. They asked me what the reference below would mean. I have seen this on other entries > I wondered why it would be included and what it means. > > Birth 02 JAN 1793 Of, Lisburn Monthly Meeting, Antrim, Ireland > > > > Thanks > Teri > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:01:58 -0400 From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Monthly Meeting reference To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000501c6d431$a9662ed0$9865fea9@Clark> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You asked, apparently with some typo's: "I still do not quite understand the concept of including with a birth listing. Does in instantly identify them as Quakers?" I think what you are asking is whether the word "Of" in the birth listing is a term singularly used with Quaker listings. I was not implying that or using the word "Of" to identify this birth listing as being Quaker. I used the term "Monthly Meeting" to idenify this as a Quaker record. You did not identify where the listing appears, but, from the overall look of it, it is likely from the IGI. The IGI listings often have some quaint phrasing, so I would not place any significance on the word "Of" in the listing. Hope that addresses your concerns. Sharon C. also usually dealing with RC entries ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teri Rehurek" <orke712@hotmail.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Monthly Meeting reference > > Sharon > > Thank You. I have read the 2nd, possibly not that thoroughly . I now remember the Terminology. It has not been something I have run a lot. For the most part I have been dealing Irish Catholics. I still do not quite understand the concept of including with a birth listing. Does in instantly identify them as Quakers? > Thanks again > Teri > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:36:27 EDT From: Shanalain@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] [CLARE] emigrant ship questions To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2da.4420e300.3234559b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Marilyn, How fortunate you are to have been handed down these letters and be able to know first hand some of the immigration experiences. I, and I'm sure many listers, would be interested and grateful to you when you are able to share these stories with us. pat ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51:45 -0700 From: "Thor" <hdiarky@charter.net> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] James Costello in Clare To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801c6d440$ffe96880$cfe1cd18@thor1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, There likely were several men named James Costello living in County Clare in the 1800's. At least one lived in or near the townland of Derryhalla as shown by this baptismal reference: 1830-- "28th of Jan. was baptized Briget daughter to Patrick Halloran of Derry Halla and to Briget Dologhty his wife. James Costelloe and Margaret Costelloe were sponsors. James Meade." The LDS microfilm #0926096 "Parish Register, Diocese of Killaloe, Parish of Quin and Clooney contain baptisms from Jan. 4, 1816 to March 1, 1855 and marriages from Jan. 29, 1833 to Feb. 14, 1855. Pat Halloran and his wife Bridget Doloughty lived in Derryhalla. Their children were Mary Halloran (1828), Bridget Halloran (1830), Pat Halloran (1832), Mary Halloran (1834), Kitty [or Biddy] Halloran (1842), John Halloran (1845) and James Halloran (1848). Sponsors at these baptisms included John Dologhty, Nancy Russell, Nancy Doologhty (twice) [possibly the same person as Nancy Russell], James Costelloe, Margaret Costelloe, John McMahon, Peg Halloran, John Molony, Mary Molony and Bridget (L)ea(r)y [or Meany]. And we probably have another James Costello: 1834--"[Jan.] 19th Mary of (James?) Costelloe and Bridget Murphy. Mary Doolaghty. Derrynaguillan." Good luck on your search. Thor Conway ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:19:48 -0300 From: "Howard Hanna" <hhanna@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Robert & Elizabeth Hanna To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004801c6d444$eadcc780$2101fea9@howard> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings; looking for details on the family Robert Hanna Born northern Ireland 1814, Parish or county Unknown Married to Elizabeth Stephenson about 1836. Robert was a tailor by trade and I believe the family were Presbyterian. I believe a daughter Eliza Ann Was born Jan. 1838 County Clare. Two Sons George br. June 1839 and William br. Jan. 1841. 1841-42 the family left Ireland For Quebec, Canada Would like to confirm birth dates of children and find there marriage date. Thanks Howard Hanna Moncton N.B. Canada ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:28:04 -0400 From: marymmccawjr@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index re CARMODY To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8C8A265967A78DC-83C-1A03@FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Christine, You mentioned that you are researching CARMODY. Do you have any in Ennis or Ennistymon? I am lookin for a family that adopted a girl named Rosemary. Thank you, Mary -----Original Message----- From: chris.bauman@insightbb.com To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index I'd be interested in any CARMODY individuals in the index. Thank you so much for anything you can find. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Mason" <tmason@stny.rr.com> To: <IRL-Clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index > Hi, > > I currently have the Index of births from Ireland for the year l866. If > anyone would like me to check out a name I would be glad to do it. > > I enjoy this list and have received a lot of good advice and would like to > reciprocate. > > I only have this microfilm for another week so please just one or two > names. > > Toni > Southern Tier NYS > > Researching: GUINANE, HOURIHAN, CURRY, BOLAND, WALSH, MULHOLLAND, OMALLEY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:24:19 +0100 From: April Ashton <ahashton@focalplane.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] l866 Index To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <94acbd6278a966451ee2b8eb7911c38b@focalplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Dear Frances: I am researching details about a Maggie Bollen / Boland who in 1878 emigrated to Australia ( to Adelaide via Plymouth in the county of Devon in England); she was born County Clare in 1862;Fa John -these details from her Australian marriage certificate in 1882. I know nothing more - might there be a connection somewhere? April Wood Ashton UK On 9 Sep 2006, at 14:32, Frances Hudson wrote: she travelled alone to Australia, no family with her; > Hello Toni > > I am researching the Boland line - Where are your Boland's from - > Mine are > from Tullaghaboy ,Count Clare. My Boland's seem to be tied up with the > Curry/Corry. They emigrated to Australia in 1845. > > Frances,Launceston,Tasmania > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Dear Frances: I am researching details about a Maggie Bollen / Boland who in 1878 emigrated to Australia ( to Adelaide via Plymouth in the county of Devon in England); she was born County Clare in 1862;Fa John -these details from her Australian marriage certificate in 1882. I know nothing more - might there be a connection somewhere? April Wood Ashton UK On 9 Sep 2006, at 14:32, Frances Hudson wrote: she travelled alone to Australia, no family with her; > Hello Toni > > I am researching the Boland line - Where are your Boland's from - > Mine are > from Tullaghaboy ,Count Clare. My Boland's seem to be tied up with the > Curry/Corry. They emigrated to Australia in 1845. > > Frances,Launceston,Tasmania > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >