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    1. [IRL-CLARE] unsubscribe
    2. Dick Strimel
    3. unsubscribe * strimelr001@hawaii.rr.com

    09/16/2006 03:04:57
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Patrick Casey
    3. Maybe or maybe not, Dave. But it has induced my sister and her husband, staunch readers of the Guardian and years-long users of the Legacy genealogy software, to buy the Independent today and tomorrow, ha ha. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Spang Sent: 16 September 2006 14:40 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 09:48:33
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Larry Brennan
    3. Possibly, The version included is quiet limited. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Spang" <dspang@adelphia.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to > buy > the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything > for nothing. > > Dave Spang > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > >> >> Greetings All: >> >> In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace >> Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. >> >> Price €1.90 >> >> There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. >> >> Regards, >> >> Larry. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 08:12:55
    1. [IRL-CLARE] 1880 census listing for Castle Garden clerk residing NJ
    2. Sharon Carberry
    3. This is only a bit of trivia, as there is no research value to knowing this: 1880 census, Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey John BRANWOOD 39 ENG. Clerk, Castle Garden Sarah A. Wife 35 ENG Sharon Carberry Georgia

    09/16/2006 05:50:11
    1. [IRL-CLARE] Compiled list, Galway to Australia, including Clare-born
    2. Sharon Carberry
    3. I do not know the person who compiled this and placed the result online: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maddenps/GALWAYEM.htm Emigrants from Galway to Australia includes several stating a Clare origin Sharon Carberry Georgia

    09/16/2006 05:34:01
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Larry Brennan
    3. Greetings All: In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. Price €1.90 There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. Regards, Larry.

    09/16/2006 04:20:34
    1. [IRL-CLARE] OOPS, , , Sorry Re: Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. My apologies to everyone, I have no idea what just happened. My thumb hit the space bar, not the send button,. and my posting disappeared. I thought I had lost it as has happened before. When I checked in "Email Sent" it shows it sent it ten times. Then when I looked in my "Inbox" I found it sever times. I have not idea how this has happened. This is another reason I am becoming disenchanted with my Yahoo Mail. I wish A.T.&T. would switch to something else. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?? Joseph

    09/16/2006 02:53:22
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone to research the records for Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:45
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone to research the records Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:45
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone to research the Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:43
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone to research Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:42
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone to Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:40
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying someone Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:39
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or paying Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:38
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:37
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records or Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:37
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Joseph C Dorsey
    3. I do not have to worry about wether to get it or not. I have never been able to find any of my ancestors in Family Tree's records to date so I would not be inclined to waste my money. Lets face it., someone has to be creating ancestoral records and placing information out there for me to have a need for it, and few of my ancestors have been researched. I could be wrong, but to my way of thinking Family Tree is a collection of other idividual's research of records, and that information should be readily available in other places at no charge. I personally would do better researching church and government records, Joseph Dave Spang <dspang@adelphia.net> wrote: Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:44:36
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History.
    2. Dave Spang
    3. Knowing Family Tree, don't you think this is a come-on to get people to buy the latest edition of their software? They are not known to give anything for nothing. Dave Spang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Brennan" <bbs.ennis@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Free CD - Trace Your Family History. > > Greetings All: > > In todays edition of THE ENGLISH INDEPENDENT there is a free CD-ROM Trace > Your Family History by Family Tree Maker. > > Price €1.90 > > There is a booklet going with it tomorrow on same. > > Regards, > > Larry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/16/2006 02:39:44
    1. Re: [IRL-CLARE] The real Annie Moore is found! The first person off Ellis Island, Jan 1892
    2. Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagain
    3. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- This is from the New York Times of September 14, 2006, also from September 15, 2006 N.P.R. Morning Edition http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6080581 Story of the First Through Ellis Island Is Rewritten By SAM ROBERTS Annie Moore is memorialized by bronze statues in New York Harbor and Ireland and cited in story and song as the first of 12 million immigrants to arrive at Ellis Island. Her story, as it has been recounted for decades, is that she went west with her family to fulfill the American dream - eventually reaching Texas, where she married a descendant of the Irish liberator Daniel O'Connell and then died accidentally under the wheels of a streetcar at the age of 46. The first part of the myth seems authentic enough. Hustled ahead of a burly German by her two younger brothers and by an Irish longshoreman who shouted "Ladies first," one Annie Moore from County Cork set foot on Ellis Island ahead of the other passengers from the steamship Nevada on Jan. 1, 1892, her 15th birthday. She was officially registered by the former private secretary to the secretary of the treasury and was presented with a $10 gold piece by the superintendent of immigration. "She says she will never part with it, but will always keep it as a pleasant memento of the occasion," The New York Times reported in describing the ceremonies inaugurating Ellis Island. As for what happened next, though, history appears to have embraced the wrong Annie Moore. "It's a classic go-West-young-woman tale riddled with tragedy," said Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak, a professional genealogist. "If only it were true." In fact, according to Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak's research, the Annie Moore of Ellis Island fame settled on the Lower East Side, married a bakery clerk and had 11 children. She lived a poor immigrant's life, but her descendants multiplied and many prospered. The story of the immigrant girl who went west, however, became so commonly accepted that even descendants of the Annie Moore who died in Texas came to believe it. Over the years, several have been invited to participate at ceremonies on Ellis Island and in Ireland. It took some genealogical detective work to find the proper Annie. After offering a $1,000 reward on the Internet a few months ago for information about Annie Moore, Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak teamed up with New York City's commissioner of records, Brian G. Andersson, and discovered the woman who they have concluded is, in fact, the iconic Annie Moore. Joined by several of her descendants, they are scheduled to announce the results of their research tomorrow at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society in Manhattan. Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak (a genealogist's dream: she's a Smolenyak married to a previously unrelated Smolenyak) became interested in Annie Moore four years ago while researching a documentary film on immigration. Pursuing the paper trail, she found that the Annie who died instantly when struck by a streetcar near Fort Worth in 1923 was not an immigrant at all but was apparently born in Illinois. Moreover, she traced that Moore family to Texas as early as 1880. "I realized it was the wrong Annie," she recalled. Then, what had happened to the Ellis Island Annie? Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak made little progress for a few years, but her search was reinvigorated this year after she moved to southern New Jersey and visited a genealogical exhibition in Philadelphia featuring a 1910 photograph of the Texas Annie. (The photograph might also have been a model for Jeanne Rynhart's two bronze sculptures, one of which is at Ellis Island.) She posted a challenge on her blog for information about the immigrant Annie Moore. She also mentioned it to Mr. Andersson, who she knew was very interested in genealogy. "With the power of the Internet and a handful of history geeks we cracked this baby in six weeks," she said. "Brian found this one document, and we knew we had the right family. We had the smoking gun." What Mr. Andersson found was the naturalization certificate belonging to Annie's brother Phillip, who arrived with her on the steamship. He was also listed in the 1930 census with a daughter, Anna. They found Anna in the Social Security death index. That identification led to her son, who is Annie Moore's great-nephew. On her first try, Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak was lucky enough to find the great-nephew listed in a directory. "As soon as I said 'Annie Moore,' he knew instantly - 'That's us,' " she said. "They had been overlooked, but they had sort of resigned themselves. I think they're very happy to be found." Her $1,000 reward is to be split between Mr. Andersson, who is donating it, and Annie's great-niece. As for Edward P. Wood, a New Jersey plumbing contractor who is descended from the Texas Annie Moore and has been feted on Ellis Island, Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak said that when she told him of her findings, he said, "I'm disappointed, but I'm not heartbroken." The Annie Moore who arrived in steerage and inaugurated Ellis Island initially joined her parents, who had arrived several years earlier, apparently in a five-story brick tenement at 32 Monroe Street in Manhattan. (One of many problems that complicated Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak's search, she said, is there is also a 32 Monroe Street in Brooklyn.) Records indicate that Annie Moore later moved to, among other places, a nearby apartment on New Chambers Street - near the Newsboys' Lodging House and the Third Avenue El on the Bowery. The area now includes the Alfred E. Smith Houses, a public project constructed in the early 1950's and named for the governor who grew up nearby, and the Knickerbocker Village complex of rental apartments built in the 1930's. "She had the typical hardscrabble immigrant life," Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak said. "She sacrificed herself for future generations." According to her latest research, Annie's father was a longshoreman. She married a bakery clerk. They had at least 11 children. Five survived to adulthood and three had children of their own. She died of heart failure in 1924 at 47. Her brother Anthony, who arrived with Annie and Philip on the Nevada, died in his 20's in the Bronx and was temporarily buried in potter's field. Annie lived and died within a few square blocks on the Lower East Side, where some of her descendants lived until just recently. She is buried with 6 of her 11 children (five infants and one who survived to 21) alongside the famous and forgotten in a Queens cemetery. Her living descendants include great-grandchildren, the great-nephew and the great-niece. One of the descendants is an investment counselor and another a Ph.D. Mrs. Smolenyak Smolenyak described them as "poster children" for immigrant America, with Irish, Jewish, Italian and Scandinavian surnames. "It's an all-American family," she said. "Annie would have been proud." So far, this turns out to be one of the few cases in which historical revisionism may have enhanced a legacy instead of subverting it. As one guidebook says: "Annie Moore came to America bearing little more than her dreams; she stayed to help build a country enriched by diversity." --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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    09/15/2006 06:05:22
    1. [IRL-CLARE] Look ups in Index
    2. Toni Mason
    3. Hi Everyone, Just wanted you to know it's taking a little more time than I anticipated to look up these names. I was a little naive since I thought it would be easy to distinquish a Clare birth from another County......such is not the case. I learned how much I don't know about Towns, Parishes, etc. since sometimes one of these is indicated and sometimes just the County! If you asked for a place other than Clare I am looking for that too, as long as it's specific. Hope to start posting soon. Toni Chilly upstate NY

    09/15/2006 04:19:57