Wow Maria, you have no idea how lucky you are that your family came from Clare. The Clare Library is the best in Ireland and they've done a tremendous job of making information available to researchers on line. We adore them. I do know that Jeanne is going to be happy to see that Foley in the subject line. Good luck! Liz On 9/21/06, M & M Thomas <m.mthomas@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi everyone > Total newbie to this list and would love some advice of tracing my family from County Clare. The details I have are > > - Mary Ann Nora FOLEY b. abt 1826 Myart, Co Clare married Michael Martin COLLINS in Aug 1845 in Carrigohall, Co Clare. Michael was born abt 1825 in Myart, Co Clare. > > Mary Ann's parents were Michael & Honor FOLEY nee KANE. Michael's parents were Martin & Margaret COLLINS nee McGRATH. > > Mary Ann & Michael arrived in Australia in 1855, along with various members of both families. > > There is a story in the family which I have decided to research a bit further - and that is the family is from a Spanish background. I do know that Mary Ann was reputedly found frequently on the verandah in the rocking chair singing Spanish songs/song. > > Any advice or help on where to follow this family further would be greatly appreciated. This is my first foray onto Irish soil :-) > > Many thanks in advance > Maria Thomas > LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maria, Just some quick pointers (others on this list can give you a much better in-depth briefing): Take a few weeks off work, cancel all other commitments, go to www.clarelibrary.ie and fire up "Search this website" and type in your names and take it from there. You'll have a ball. Masses of stuff. Your Carrigohall is probably Carrigaholt, Myart is probably Moyarta. Jeanne Foley Dwyer, who is a very experienced member of this list and has at least one of your names and originates from that part of Clare, may want to jump in with more precise information. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 21 September 2006 10:24 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Total newbie to this list and would love some advice of tracing my family from County Clare. The details I have are - Mary Ann Nora FOLEY b. abt 1826 Myart, Co Clare married Michael Martin COLLINS in Aug 1845 in Carrigohall, Co Clare. Michael was born abt 1825 in Myart, Co Clare. Mary Ann's parents were Michael & Honor FOLEY nee KANE. Michael's parents were Martin & Margaret COLLINS nee McGRATH. Mary Ann & Michael arrived in Australia in 1855, along with various members of both families. There is a story in the family which I have decided to research a bit further - and that is the family is from a Spanish background. I do know that Mary Ann was reputedly found frequently on the verandah in the rocking chair singing Spanish songs/song. Any advice or help on where to follow this family further would be greatly appreciated. This is my first foray onto Irish soil :-) Many thanks in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ernene, Message received. Happy researching. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernene Smedley" <ernene@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] confused re posts > I am sending this as a test to see if I am able to post to the list after > having my emails bounce. > > > > Thanks to Chris Goopy for contacting the list on my behalf and to Ellen > Crehan for your reply. > > > > Thanks also to Bob Brooks for your reply to Chris. However, I only have one > email address which I have had for 2 years. Bob, I did not send any blind > copy to my knowledge. I only received that message once, all other postings > just bounced. > > > > All I can do is see if this one goes through and if not, I will contact > Cara. > > > > Regards > > > > Ernene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank goodness, Ernene, that things settled out for you and that you can now post at will. We need to keep sharing what we find, between ourselves and with the modern-day equivalent of our East Clare community. I made a very interesting discovery yesterday, but I want to follow it up with some census digging today. So, watch this space for an apparent direct link between Kilkishen and Kilrush, at least for one of our families, one which you would not have suspected. Sharon Carberry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernene Smedley" <ernene@tpg.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] confused re posts > I am sending this as a test to see if I am able to post to the list after > having my emails bounce. > > > > Thanks to Chris Goopy for contacting the list on my behalf and to Ellen > Crehan for your reply. > > > > Thanks also to Bob Brooks for your reply to Chris. However, I only have one > email address which I have had for 2 years. Bob, I did not send any blind > copy to my knowledge. I only received that message once, all other postings > just bounced. > > > > All I can do is see if this one goes through and if not, I will contact > Cara. > > > > Regards > > > > Ernene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 > >

Hello Chris, Yesterday(Tuesday) I posted to the Galway List and I received that same message......with the addition .......contact the List Administrator, so I did, and to-day without any further explanation my post came through on the Galway List. Could this be a Rootsweb problem? Just thought I would pass on my experience. Cheers, Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Goopy" <cgoopy@optusnet.com.au> To: "Clare" <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] confused re posts > > > > Hi all, > > I am writing on behalf of my friend, Ernene Smedley, who, while she can > receive posts, is unable to actually post herself, as her posts keep > bouncing. This is the latest response she had while trying to post... > > Can someone please explain this email below for me please? > > > Thank you, > > Chris > > > > > The email you just sent to the IRL-CLARE mailling list is being held for > review for the following reason: > > Message has implicit destination > > Your message will be reviewed and will either be automatically posted to the > list or you will be notified that it has been rejected and why. > > If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following > URL: > > > http://lists3.rootsweb.com/mailman/confirm/irl-clare/2f041409092d7d7c816dc79 > 8dc476a976cc8e7a3 > > > Please contact your list administrator at IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com if > you have any questions. > > Sincerely, > > The IRL-CLARE list administrator > IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I am writing on behalf of my friend, Ernene Smedley, who, while she can receive posts, is unable to actually post herself, as her posts keep bouncing. This is the latest response she had while trying to post... Can someone please explain this email below for me please? Thank you, Chris The email you just sent to the IRL-CLARE mailling list is being held for review for the following reason: Message has implicit destination Your message will be reviewed and will either be automatically posted to the list or you will be notified that it has been rejected and why. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists3.rootsweb.com/mailman/confirm/irl-clare/2f041409092d7d7c816dc79 8dc476a976cc8e7a3 Please contact your list administrator at IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com if you have any questions. Sincerely, The IRL-CLARE list administrator IRL-CLARE-admin@rootsweb.com

Brenda, At the Clare Library website go to http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/guests2004.htm and look at Peter Beirne's entry in the visitors' book which reads ".....the placename 'Agherine.' To the best of my knowledge, Agherine refers to the townland of Aharinagh More in the parish of O'Briensbridge. Note that Aharinagh names two townlands, Aharinagh Beg (small or lower Aharinagh) in the parish of Killokennedy, and Aharinagh More (big or upper Aharinagh) in the parish of O'Briensbridge. Note also that the spelling of this townland varies somewhat over the decades and centuries. In the Tithe Applotment Books of the mid and late 1820s it is spelled Aherina (for the O'Briensbridge townland) and in the Griffith's Valuation of the mid 1850s it is spelled Aharinaghmore......" Then go to the 1842 OS maps at the Clare Library site and look at these townlands on the map and see whether they might correspond to the one you are looking for in the parish of Killaloe (which is right next door). Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Pilson Sent: 20 September 2006 09:26 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] townland Hi, In tithes Aherina townland is in Killaloe parish but I can't find it in Griffiths Valuations. Is anyone able to help. Regards Brenda ____________________________________________________ On Yahoo!7 Check out PS Trixi - The hot new online adventure http://www.trixi.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, 'A Hard Station - Musings on St.Colmcille's Church, Swords' (Swords, Co. Dublin) ".... death of Dr. Davys, coroner (Francis Davys) .......... son of the late James Davys R.M. for the counties of Cork, Galway and Clare .... " Declan

Hi, From Swords Voices Vol.1 part 10. (2003). (Swords, Co. Dublin) 'From Clare to Here - Mrs. Anne Flynn' "Mrs. Anne Flynn (nee Connole) was born in Ballyphaidin, Co. Clare in 1914 and came to the Swords area in 1933 ......... ........ I was working in a place in Kilfenora and I loved it. Sonny and Kathleen O'Keefe was the name of the people and they loved music .... .... my brother M.J. ..... .... I went back down when I had a sister there but nobody there now would know me ...... " Declan

"1047 Carroll, Nancy ( Anna LaHiff November 19, 1903 - August 6, 1965) Actress in films of the late '20s and '30s, the daughter of an immigrant from County Clare, Ireland where she spent much time in later years. She died unexpectedly at 60 (or 61) in Manhattan. Service at The Abbey. Burial in the Lahiff lot as Nancy Carroll ( each lot having one stone listing the names) Sec. 35, lot 2, range 10, grave 14/15 (3rd), Calvary Woodside Queens, NYC. " Scott Wilson's RESTING PLACES The Burial Sites of Over 7,000 Famous Persons; 2001 McFarland & Co. Inc. Publishing several photos http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Chateau/6060/august.html

I have "inside info" on these people, passed to me by a Boston descendant of the involved Donnellan family. I can locate more exact info on them, but my memory is that this is the family of politically-connected Rossroe farmer shown in the 1901census. It is my understanding that Mark Donnellan, son of the great, late Francie (musician extraordinaire) is farming in Rossroe now, although Francie was born in Clashduff, civil parish of Clonlea. The Donnellans of East Clare are all connected - I suppose it is incumbent on me to do the chart, someday. In the meantime, below is what I have, which comes from the parish records for St. Mary's in Kilmurray, Sixmilebridge, courtesy of Fr. Willim McCormick in 1995. I keep this on top of my notes since I am interested in the 12 Jun 1847 marriage of Michael Connell of Clonlea and Catherine Liddy, which took place in the next parish north of Kilmurray (O'Callaghan Mills, with Clonlea equating to Kilkishen, which adjoins Kilmurray). My Micheal Donnellan was married to Ann Connell, likely in the 1820s since the birth of my gggmother Catherine occurred in 1826 (according to her old-age home record). Sharon Carberry 7 Feb 1859 Marriage James Donnellan and Mary Butler witnesses: James Brazzil, Eliza Liddy baptisms of children: 1 Jan 1860 Sarah (married William Kerrigan, emigrated to Boston MA) 29 Jun 1861 Thomas (to Boston) 5 Jan 1863 Catherine (to Boston) 11 Jun 1865 Bridget (to Boston) 3 Aug 1866 William 8 Aug 1869 Margaret (to Boston) 30 Jan 1871 Daniel (to Boston) 29 Oct 1872 James (to Boston) 17 Feb 1874 Eliza (to Boston) 11 Mar 1876 Pat 15 Aug 1877 Cicilia 31 Aug 1879 Stephen 15 Oct 1881 Jacobus 15 Jun 1885 Cecilia (d. 1885) 7 Apr 1887 Anne

Hi, Thanks Padraig & Sharon for your help with this. Regards Brenda ____________________________________________________ On Yahoo!7 Break a world record with Total Girl's World’s Largest Slumber Party http://www.totalgirl.com.au/slumberparty

Brenda, This townland's spellings over the years has already been addressed by Peter Beirne of the County Clare Library, see below. To find this gem I inputted your spelling of it into the Clare County Library search engine and had the explanation within 30 seconds. I think the place of first resort on all such things is the library website, because Googling is an effective key to sort through the huge amount of historical information there. Sharon Carberry Georgia "...To the best of my knowledge, Agherine refers to the townland of Aharinagh More in the parish of O'Briensbridge. Note that Aharinagh names two townlands, Aharinagh Beg (small or lower Aharinagh) in the parish of Killokennedy, and Aharinagh More (big or upper Aharinagh) in the parish of O'Briensbridge. Note also that the spelling of this townland varies somewhat over the decades and centuries. In the Tithe Applotment Books of the mid and late 1820s it is spelled Aherina (for the O'Briensbridge townland) and in the Griffith's Valuation of the mid 1850s it is spelled Aharinaghmore...Note also that Aharinagh Beg and Aharinagh More, though in two different parishes, are in fact adjoining townlands..." Peter Beirne, Clare County Library http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/guests2004.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Pilson" <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:26 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] townland > Hi, > In tithes Aherina townland is in Killaloe parish but I can't find it in Griffiths Valuations. Is anyone able to help. > Regards > Brenda > > > > ____________________________________________________ > On Yahoo!7 > Check out PS Trixi - The hot new online adventure > http://www.trixi.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006 > >

Hi, In tithes Aherina townland is in Killaloe parish but I can't find it in Griffiths Valuations. Is anyone able to help. Regards Brenda ____________________________________________________ On Yahoo!7 Check out PS Trixi - The hot new online adventure http://www.trixi.com.au

I will start posting alphabetically for the above names and will continue that way until finished. I have learned a lot about Clare with this project but I realize there is still a lot to learn about the divisions of the land. I have tried to post the ones from Clare (that I recognized) and apologize that I might have missed some because of my ignorance of these parishes, cities, townlands, etc. If you asked for a particular place I have tried to find that. For some names there are so many entries that I have only picked out a few and it might be worth your while to get the film. Therefore, having said my piece, here we go: BARRINGTON Vol/Pg Clara Glin 15/242 Joseph Dublin S. 17/656 Kate Athy 8/480 Margaret New Ross 14/833 female Enniscorthy 14/706 female Fermoy 19/787 BLACKBOURNE & BLACKBOURN Seth Holmes Irvinistown 12/156 William Armagh 16/69 BLACKBURN Elizabeth Ennis 19/269 (more of these but I didn't know where you were looking) BRAZIL Anne Kilmacthomas 19/800 Bridget Kilmacthomas 9/793 Henry Nenagh l8/576 Patrick Dungarvan 19/733 Pierce " " BRAZILL Mathew Naas l7/837 Walter Clonmel 19/712 BRESLIN Anne Glenties 17/102 Joseph Inishowen 7/155 " " 7/158 Margaret " 12/144 Patrick " 2/179 SOURCE; FHL film #0101043

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http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/census/burials1922.html

Bridget O'Reilly on a visit to Co.Cavan went into a small specialty shop buy a gift of a fly-rod and reel for the local parish priest who had helped her in her genealogy search by allowing her to browse through the very old and time-worn sacramental registers. She doesn't know which one to get, so she just picked out one and went to the counter. The shop owner is standing there, wearing dark shades. She says, "Excuse me, Sir - Can you tell me anything about this rod and reel?" He says, " Mrs., I'm completely blind; but if you'll drop it on the counter, I can tell you everything you need to know about it from the sound it makes." She doesn't believe him, but she drops it on the counter anyway. He says, "That's an eight foot one piece Shakespeare Greenheart with a 404 fly casting reel and 8-lb.Test line. It's a great combination, and being my last end of season stock, it's on special sale this week for only 20 pounds, with full guarantee" She says, "It's just amazing that you can tell all that just by the sound of it dropping on the counter. I'll take it!" As she opens her purse, her credit card drops on the floor. "Oh, that sounds like a Bank of Ireland credit card", said he. As Bridget bent down to pick up the card, she accidentally let out a loud popper. At first, she is really embarrassed, but then realises that as there are other customers browsing, there is no likelyhood the blind shop owner could tell it was she who had farted. The owner rings up the sale and says, " That'll be 34 pounds and 50 pence, please, Mrs." Bridget is totally confused by this amount and says " I thought you said that it was on sale for 20 pounds - How did that become 34.50 ?" "Well, says he, the Duck Caller is 11 pounds, and the Fish Bait is 3 pounds 50 p." ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar

FYI - might be useful if you have a family missing its head of household in this time period. This Cleary does not appear to be listed as well in CO that year. Note that by the early 1900s, the hot mining area was in Idaho (silver mines). Montana was a strong area in the late 1800s. Sharon Carberry Georgia not researching Cleary 1880 Ward Three, Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts CLEARY Patrick 48 Ire Mining in Colorado Mary, wife 27 Ire [apparently providing info for census] Sarah, stepdau. 16 MA pars: Ire Thomas, stepson 15 MA " works in tack shop William, son 3 MA SHEA, Henry 24 Nova Scotia pars: Ire store clerk COUGAN, Maria, widow 52 Ire servant HENRY, William 25 MA laborer Fa: Eng Mo: Ire Lizzie 21 MA married pars: Ire Mary L. 10 months

I'll make a deal with you. If you quit sending these "genealogically related" jokes to the list, I'll quit making dumb jokes. Do we have a bargain? Jeanne Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagain <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> wrote: Bridget O'Reilly on a visit to Co.Cavan went into a small specialty shop buy a gift of a fly-rod and reel for the local parish priest who had helped her in her genealogy search by allowing her to browse through the very old and time-worn sacramental registers. She doesn't know which one to get, so she just picked out one and went to the counter. The shop owner is standing there, wearing dark shades. She says, "Excuse me, Sir - Can you tell me anything about this rod and reel?" He says, " Mrs., I'm completely blind; but if you'll drop it on the counter, I can tell you everything you need to know about it from the sound it makes." She doesn't believe him, but she drops it on the counter anyway. He says, "That's an eight foot one piece Shakespeare Greenheart with a 404 fly casting reel and 8-lb.Test line. It's a great combination, and being my last end of season stock, it's on special sale this week for only 20 pounds, with full guarantee" She says, "It's just amazing that you can tell all that just by the sound of it dropping on the counter. I'll take it!" As she opens her purse, her credit card drops on the floor. "Oh, that sounds like a Bank of Ireland credit card", said he. As Bridget bent down to pick up the card, she accidentally let out a loud popper. At first, she is really embarrassed, but then realises that as there are other customers browsing, there is no likelyhood the blind shop owner could tell it was she who had farted. The owner rings up the sale and says, " That'll be 34 pounds and 50 pence, please, Mrs." Bridget is totally confused by this amount and says " I thought you said that it was on sale for 20 pounds - How did that become 34.50 ?" "Well, says he, the Duck Caller is 11 pounds, and the Fish Bait is 3 pounds 50 p." ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com