999/567 Extracts from Parish Registers p. 961 http://www.nationalarchives.ie/PDF/SmallPrivateAccessions.pdf#search=%22coogy%20%2Bclare%22 12 6 May 1815 Margaret L. Creagh Newmarket Kilnasulagh, Killaloe 13 8 Nov 1817 Ann Creagh Carrigerry Kilnasoolagh, Killaloe

Jeanne, You are doing for Foley what I have been doing for the past decade with Carberry, because I know that the Carberrys arrived in Clare no earlier than the late 1700s. The research is extending over a long period of time because there were two main septs of native-Irish Carberrys, one in Westmeath and one in Waterford. My approach has been a differential one: collecting everything I can on the native Irish ones (after learning that the aristocratic ones were Norman English, who were given confiscated Barony of Carbery lands in Cork and then assumed the name as their surname after so many years of being called Lord and Lady Carbery). and then comparing those details with my family's details. Even the latest Leeson list findings are helpful, since the Fox emigrants are shown as being from Ballymaconnel where my Carberrys first appeared in parish records (Fox is a common Westmeath name, not a Clare name, and my Carberrys used Peter and Thomas, which are heavily used in the Westmeath families). This research and anlysis will continue until I am satisfied that I have sufficient evidence to call it. So, I provided some background on the Lukey family, for which I know you have a similar Lukey-Foley connection from the Davoren materials, which, added to Declan's newspaper article on the same Basil Lukey, starts to gel as relevant and also to point to a potentially useful relationship of East Clare to the Kilrush area via the involved landlords or estates hiring local men. If you don't have data to analyze, then the analysis cannot occur. Unfortunately, definitive data in just one record source is hard to come by in Irish genealogy. If you find that it has no ultimate utility, just toss. At this point, though, you might want to find a Lukey will or two , or some other document relating to the second half of the 1700s, to see if you can catch Basil of Cork acquiring or disposing of property in Kilrush, and maybe bringing a Foley from a Cork estate to manage some Kilrush land. Back when we were discussing (offline) the Registry of Deeds films (via LDS), I meant to mention that the placename books may be hard to read as filmed but the surname indexes should be easy since the handwriting is so clear even back into the 1700s. Sharon Carberry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Lucey, mostly for listmember Jeanne > Thanks for thinking of me, Sharon. I went to the link and searched the site in a couple of ways. There was a reference to a placename on the homepage in Bermondsey in London, a "Folly (or Foley) Bridge", and three individual's names in the database, with only Margaret Foley named by given name from Youghal, Co. Waterford. The other two included no other information other than who their spouses were, as related to the Lucey family. A search of this website for "Clare" didn't give me anymore indication, either, that these Foleys were connected to mine. How far afield does one look within reason when one knows that one's family must have come from somewhere outside of Clare? > > Jeanne > > Sharon Carberry <sm8carberry@comcast.net> wrote: Lucey and Foley of Kilmichael, Cork > http://www.rickmansworthherts.freeserve.co.uk/webpage36.htm > > Clare Journal 1813 > Dec 27 > Deaths > At Lukeville, county Cork, Basil Lukey, Esq., Attorney, late of Belvoir, in this county, aged 85 years > [posted by Declan Barron in '04] > > Belvoir is the big house on the eastern edge of Kilkishen, associated in the mid/late 1800s with the Wilson family. > > posted by Sharon C. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 > >

Munmore - why the Leeson list one is in East Clare On the Lund version of the Leeson list: Corbett Bridget Munmore 1840 Corbett John Knocklisheen 1847 Lucas James Munmore 1840 Lucas John/ Jos. Munmore 1840 30 Jan 03 posting of a Clare listmember: "I was wondering if anyone knows of a Munmore Farms located near Tulla, Co. Clare and if it still exists. I am researching Joseph Lucas and Margaret Noonan, tenant farmers on Munmore Farms who came to Canada on the ship James Cook in 1840." IRISH EMIGRANT WEDDINGS: NOVA SCOTIA 1826-30 http://website.lineone.net/~corbett_group/First/Ireland/irish3.htm 1839-47 1840 Bridget Corbett of Munmore 1847 John Corbett of Killinena also note: KEANE, Michael [McGUIRE, CONNELL]; Munmore CLA IRL>Chicago IL; Chicago Tribune; 1918-02-22 http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/obidxk.htm -------------- As to another ship were involved in the Wyndham assisted voyages, see my posting of 2 Oct 02: Montreal Gazette, June 30, 1846 (copied from the Quebec Mercury)." Twenty-six families - 146 persons, were sent out by Col. Wyndham, from his estates near Limerick, in the Bryan Abbs, Capt. Brown, and were paid through Messrs. C. E. Levey & Co, the sum of L156 19s currency, equal to 20s sterling each adult." Books to consult: A New Lease On Life: Landlords, Tenants, and Immigrants in Ireland and Canada Wilson, Catharine Anne Montreal; Buffalo: Mc-Gill-Queen's University Press, 1994 ISBN 0773511172 Source For the History of Landed Estates in Ireland Dooley, Terence A.M. Dublin; Portland OR: Irish Academic Presss, 2000 ISBN 071656972 Source material on the Wyndham family, some of which may have been collected by the Clare library: Wyndham, Earls of Egremont 1800s - 1900s deeds, rentals, etc. Nat Archives 29976 West Sussex Record Office. Petworth House Archives Catalogue Ref. PHA Creator(s): Percy family, Earls of Northumberland Wyndham family, Earls of Egremont my posting of 15 Apr 05-- Salmon, N. (Nathaniel). A short view of the families of the present Irish nobility; their marriages, ... arms, mottos, and chief seats. With an index, ... By Mr. Salmon. London, 1759. 281pp. History and Geography ORBIEN, EARL OF INCHIQUIN [sic] p. 30 WYNDAM - OBRIEN, EARL OF THOMOND 92 This last one is short, so here it is transcribed (without names in upper case): "The right honourable Percy Wyndham OBrien, Earl of Thomand, Baron Ibrickan, Lord Treasurer of his Majestry's houshold [sic], and member in the British parliament for Cockermouth, in Cumberland, was created Earl and Baron as above, Nov. 29, 1756. Sir William Wyndham, Bart. father of the present Earl, only son of Sir Edward Wyndham, Bart. was master of the buck-hounds, secretary at war, chancellor of the exchequer, and privy-counsellor to her late Majestry Queen Anne; and married, in July 1708, the Lady Catherine Seymour, second daughter of Charles Duke of Somerset, by whom he had issue two sons and two daughters, viz. 1. Charles, now Earl of Egremont. 2. Percy, the present Earl of Thomond, to whom his uncle Henry, the last Earl of Thomond, left his estate upon his bearing arms and name of OBrien, as has been shewn particularly under the title of Earl of Inchiquin."

Mary K. Lund of Minnesota has provided her list of Clare emigrants which she made after obtaining the Leeson article about which I posted on 18 Mar 2003, 17 Apr 2005, and earlier this month. This list has opened up new avenues of research for me because, for one thing, I had never heard of the placename Munmore previously, which turns outs to be an East Clare location (as well as one near Kilrush, which is not the one involved with the Leeson list). Please be aware that there are seemingly unique locations on this Leeson list which are not so. In fact, there are extreme west and extreme east locations in Clare for many of the "unique" placenames. You need to analyze all the people involved with that placename before deciding the involved region. Also be aware that the spellings can be one or two letters different from the usual spellings, as used on the Clare library website or on IreAtlas (Sean Ruad database). For instance, Muckirish shown below is actually Muckinish, but there are several such places in Clare. The below one belongs to East Clare, as revealed by its high number (#44) in the original Leeson listing, which I duplicated in my earlier postings. I had asked Ms. Lund for the appendix so that I could cross-reference the numbers to the placenames in the appendix. Instead, she sent me the list which she had made, apparently having already done that. Very nice indeed, but you still need to check the original list to decide if the placename is in East, West, or central Clare. I will do a separate posting on some of those determinations which I made. Sharon Carberry, Georgia USA Examples of the numbers from the original Leeson list: HEHIR Martin (35) 1840 HEHIR Pat (27) 1847 HALLORAN Ellen (40) 1846 LIDDY Patrick (16) 1846 MEANY Michael (24) 1847 MEEHAN Connor (23) 1839 MEEHAN James (35) 1839 MEEHAN Pat (45) 1840 McMAHON Stephen (40) 1839 Mary K. Lund's list, to which I have added some #s -- Wyndham Emigrants SURNAME GIVEN_NAME TOWNLAND EMIGRATION YEAR Behan John Coogy East 1840 Bennett John Glascloone 1840 Boland John Deer Island 1840 Boland Michael Killinena 1840 Boland Pat Feadamore, Limerick 1847 Boland Pat Agherina 1847 Brady John Killinena 1840 Breene Roger Muckerish 1847 Brody John Killinena 1841 Browne Daniel Lissofin 1846 Buckley Michael Lissofin 1846 Burke Honora Killinena 1841 Burke James Killinena 1839 Burke James Killinena 1840 Burke Bridget Killinena 1840 Burke Mary Killinena 1840 Burke Biddy Deer Island 1840 Burnes Kitty Ballymaconna 1839 Burnes Patrick Ballymaconna 1839 Callaghan Pat Lissofin 1840 Cannavane Mary Ballycairns 1847 Canny Michael Agherina 1847 Carney John Glandoyne 1839 Carroll John Ballycairns 1839 Carroll Pat Ballynveala 1847 Cherrey John Knocklisheen 1841 Clancie Daniel Coolreigh 1839 Clancy Mary Lissofin 1840 Clancy Mary Lissofin 1846 Clancy John Ballycairns 1847 Clancy Pat Carrigard 1839 Clancy Pat Carhuduff 1847 Cleary Michael Croveraghan 1839 Cleary Pat Moyeralla 1840 Cleary Peggy Glascloone 1846 Clifford Mary Castle Cluggin 1840 Collins Bridget Ballycairns 1839 Collins Michael Munmore 1839 Collins Michael Munmore 1840 Collins William Killinena 1839 Colopy William Ballynveala 1847 Conlan Pat Lissofin 1839 Connell Ellen Lissofin 1846 Connell John Agherina 1846 Connell Mary Lissofin 1846 Connellan Peggy Corlea 1840 Connor James Ballymaconna 1839 Connor Michael Corroderry 1839 Considine Michael Clonkerry 1839 Considine Pat Clonkerry 1841 Considine Pat Deer Island 1840 Conway Murt Glascloone 1840 Cooleen John Killinena 1847 Cooley Martin Moyeralla 1839 Corbett Bridget Munmore 1840 Corbett John Knocklisheen 1847 Corry John Corlea 1839 Corry John Munmore 1840 Crowley Martin Moyeralla 1840 Crowley Pat Moyeralla 1840 Cruill Matthew Ballyheige 1847 Culligan John Moyeralla 1840 Culligan Pat Moyeralla 1839 Culligan Simon Moyeralla 1839 Culligan Pat Glascloone 1840 Cullinane Pat Coogy East 1839 Cunningham John Muckerish 1841 Cunningham Michael Munmore 1846 Cunningham Thomas Munmore 1839 Cunningham Thomas Munmore 1840 Curley Pat Moygallow 1846 Curren William Killinena 1847 Curtin Dennis Muckerish 1841 Curtin Francis Muckerish 1840 Curtin Michael Muckerish 1847 Curtis Pat Carhubane 1840 Curtis Pat Carhubane 1846 Cusack James Knockaclare 1839 Cusack Michael Munmore 1840 Cusack Pat Munmore 1839 Cusack William Munmore 1839 Daley Widow Lissofin 1846 Davine Johanna Lissofin 1846 Davis James Castle Cluggin 1839 Dillon Mary Ballycairns 1839 Dillon Pat Knocklisheen 1839 Dillon Pat Ballyea, Limerick 1847 Dillon Thomas Muckerish 1839 Dinnan Mary Lissofin 1839 Dooley James Freigh Castle 1847 Downey Michael Agherina 1847 Doyle Widow Castle Cluggin 1840 Doyle James Freigh Castle 1847 Doyle Tim Castle Cluggin 1839 Doyle Norah Erribull 1839 Duryer Michael Garranboy 1847 Dwyer Ellen Agherina 1847 Dwyer Michael Castle Cluggin 1839 Fahey [see McGrath] Michael Lissofin 1840 Falty [Talty?] James Glascloone 1840 Finn Daniel Corelish 1847 Fitzgerald John Garranboy 1847 Fitzgibbon Martin Garranboy 1847 Fitzpatrick Pat Croveraghan 1840 Fitzpatrick Thomas Croveraghan 1840 Fitzpatrick Biddy Croveraghan 1840 Flanigan James Munmore 1846 Flanigan James Munmore 1839 Flanigan John Croveraghan 1839 Flanigan John Croveraghan 1846 Flanigan Mary Croveraghan 1839 Flanigan Maurice Corlea 1839 Flannery Michael Agherina 1847 Flinn William Agherina 1847 Fogarty John Castle Cluggin 1840 Ford Catherine Croveraghan 1840 Fox Margaret Ballymaconna 1840 Fox Michael Ballymaconna 1840 Gallaher John Knocklisheen 1847 Galvin John Carhudoty 1839 Gannon Conner Muckerish 1846 [#44] Gannon Mary Muckerish 1839 Gegan John Ballymaconna 1839 Gegan Andrew Ballymaconna 1841 Gegan Micahel Ballymaconna 1840 Gegan John Muckerish 1847 Giltinan Pat Ballycairns 1639 Giltinan Roger Ballycairns 1839 Gleeson James Agherina 1847 Gleeson William Agherina 1847 Gleeson [see Hase,Mary] Nelly ---- Glynn Pat Ballycairns 1840 Glynn Tim Muckerish 1847 Gorman John Glascloone 1839 Gorman Pat Glascloone 1839 Gorman Nancy Croveraghan 1840 Grant Pat Croveraghan 1839 Grant Pat Croveraghan 1846 Gray Widow Lissofin 1846 Greene Michael Agherina 1846 Gregg Mary Erribull 1839 Griffin Mary Glascloone 1840 Griffin Pat Croveraghan 1840 Gruffy James Deer Island 1840 Guerin Pat Muckerish 1839 Guerin Pat Muckerish 1840 Guerin Pat Killinena 1841 Guirey William Moyeralla 1840 Gully Denis Kilmastulla, Tipperary 1847 Halloran Martin Lissofin 1840 Halloran Ellen Lissofin 1846 #40 Halloran Lawrence Lissofin 1839 Halloran Biddy Castle Cluggin 1840 Halloran Matthew Garranboy 1847 Halloran Michael Agherina 1847 Halpin Martin Croveraghan 1846 Halpin Michael Killinena 1841 Hannen Bridget Agherina 1847 Hannen James Agherina 1847 Hannen John Sr. Agherina 1847 Hannen John Carhudoty 1846 Hannen John Garranboy 1847 Hannen Thomas Sr. Agherina 1847 Harrahill Pat Agherina 1847 Hartigan James Ballycairns 1839 Hartigan James Glascloone 1840 Hartigan Michael Glascloone 1840 Hartigan Pat Glascloone 1840 Hartigan Thomas Corlea 1839 Hartigan Thomas Ballycairns 1839 Hartney Murt Munmore 1840 Hase Mary unknown 1840 Hassett Michael Muckerish 1847 Hassett Michael Munmore 1840 Hayes Catherine Agherina 1847 Hayes Johanna Castle Cluggin 1839 Hayes Michael Ballysheene 1847 Healy Denis Lissofin 1846 Healy Michael Kilmastulla, Tipperary 1847 Healy Peter Coogy East 1839 Hehir Martin Killinena 1840 [#35] Hehir Pat Lissofin 1839 Hehir Pat Dromgranabeg 1847 [#27] Hickey Daniel Munmore 1846 Hickey Susan Muckerish 1841 Hogan James Castle Cluggin 1839 Hogan Margaret Erribull 1839 Hogan Michael Killinena 1840 Hogan Pat Muckerish 1839 Hogan Pat Freigh Castle 1847 Hore Edmund Ballynveala 1847 Howard John Freigh Castle 1847 Keagh James Moygallow 1846 Kean John Glascloone 1840 Keating Pat Ballysheene 1847 Keefe John Lissofin 1840 Keeliher William Munmore 1840 Kelly James Munmore 1840 Kelly James Muckerish 1839 Kelly John Freigh Castle 1847 Kelly Michael Lissofin 1846 Kelly Pat Freigh Castle 1847 [Miltown Malbay] Kelly Pat Munmore 1840 Kendal Stephen Ballymaconna 1839 Kendal Stephen Ballymaconna 1840 Kennedy Daniel Agherina 1847 Kennedy Honor Killinena 1839 Kennedy Stephen Clonfadda 1847 King Michael Croveraghan 1840 Laverty John Glascloone 1840 Leahy Augustine Glascloone 1840 Liddy Patrick Clonkerry 1846 Linane John Freigh Castle 1847 Linane Pat Knockaclare 1839 Linane Pat Knockaclare 1846 Loughman Mary Carrigard 1839 Loughnane James Croveraghan 1840 Lucas James Munmore 1840 Lucas John/ Jos. Munmore 1840 Lucknane John Coogy West 1839 Lynch Daniel Moygallow 1846 Lynch Darby Ballycairns 1847 Lynch James Garranboy 1847 Mailey Widow Coolreigh 1839 Mailey Widow Coolreigh 1840 Malone Mary Coogy East 1840 McAllen Daniel Killinena 1847 McCromick John Garranboy 1847 McGrath James Kilmastulla, Tipperary 1847 McGrath Michael Lissofin 1840 McGrath Pat Carhubane 1847 McGrath Fahey's wife Lissofin 1839 McGuane Michael Doonsallagh 1847 McInerheny Pat Glascloone 1840 McInerheny Thomas Clonfadda 1847 McKnight William Glascloone 1839 McKnight William Glascloone 1840 McMahon Joan Munmore 1840 McMahon Joan Glascloone 1840 McMahon John Muckerish 1841 McMahon John Muckerish 1846 McMahon John Glascloone 1840 McMahon Kitty Muckerish 1839 McMahon Margaret Lissofin 1840 McMahon Michael Croveraghan 1839 McMahon Michael Croveraghan 1840 McMahon Nelly Coolreigh 1839 McMahon Pat Croveraghan 1840 McMahon Stephen Lissofin 1839 #40 McMahon Thomas Muckerish 1839 McMahon Thomas Deer Island 1840 McMahon Tim Muckerish 1840 McMahoney Pat Glascloone 1846 McNamara Bridget Munmore 1840 McNamara Daniel Muckerish 1840 McNamara Daniel Ballyheige 1846 McNamara James Corlea 1839 McNamara James Corlea 1840 McNamara John Munmore 1840 McNamara John Deer Island 1840 McNamara John Clonfadda 1841 McNamara Michael Lissofin 1846 McNamara Pat Deer Island 1840 McNamara Pat Killinena 1840 McNamara Pat Killinena 1841 McNamara Pat Ballycairns 1839 McNamara Pat Lissofin 1846 McNamara Pat Lissofin 1839 McNamara Rody Garranboy 1847 Meany Michael Deer Island 1847 #24 Meany Daniel Deer Island 1840 Meehan Connor Croveraghan 1839 Meehan Dennis Croveraghan 1839 #23 Meehan James Killinena 1839 #35 Meehan Michael Croveraghan 1840 Meehan Pat Munmore 1840 #45 Meer Matthew Coogy East 1840 Meers James (Dindon) Coogy East 1839 Melican Thomas Lissofin 1846 Milarchy Biddy Lissofin 1 846 Minahan Matthew Agherina 1847 Minahan Pat Agherina 1847 Molony Biddy Deer Island 1840 Molony George Deer Island 1846 Molony Edmond Garranboy 1847 Molony James Killinena 1841 Molony James Killinena 1847 Molony John Lissofin 1846 Molony Michael Lissofin 1841 Molony Michael Munmore 1847 Molony Michael Garranboy 1847 Molony Patrick Croveraghan 1840 Mongovan John Carhudoty 1846 Mooney Penny Lissofin 1846 Morony Bridget Muckerish 1840 Morony Catherine Muckerish 1839 Morony Patrick Munmore 1840 Morony Michael Munmore 1840 Moylan Pat Erribull 1839 Mulcahy Simon Doonsallagh 1847 Mullins Michael Lissofin 1846 Mulloy John Glandoyne 1846 Mulqueeny Michael Munmore 1839 Mulqueeny Thomas Munmore 1846 Mungoven James Corlea 1840 Mungoven Thomas Corlea 1840 Murphy John Munmore 1846 Murphy Darby Ballycairns 1847 Murray John Killinena 1839 Nash Pat Rathmore 1839 Nash Pat Agherina 1847 Neilson Martin Doonsallagh 1847 Noallan Daniel Killinena 1847 O'Brien John Deer Island 1840 O'Brien Laurence Croveraghan 1846 O'Brien Michael Croveraghan 1839 O'Brien Nancy Croveraghan 1840 O'Brien Pat Dronin 1847 O'Brien Thomas Glascloone 1839 O'Brien Thomas Glascloone 1840 O'Connor James Corroderry 1840 O'Connors Michael Corroderry 1846 O'Dea Denis Croveraghan 1840 O'Dea Michael Croveraghan 1840 O'Dea Michael Croveraghan 1840 O'Dea James Jr. Rathbeg 1847 O'Dea Pat or Jas. Rathbeg 1847 O'Dea John Coogy East 1839 O'Dea John Coogy East 1840 O'Donnell Michael Munmore 1840 O'Donnell Pat Munmore 1840 O'Neil Pat Castle Cluggin 1839 [Oola, Co. Limerick] O'Neil Pat Lissofin 1840 O'Neill James Muckerish 1839 Peacock John Garranboy 1847 Purcell Pat Killinena 1840 Purcell Mary Killinena 1840 Quin Edmund Castle Cluggin 1839 Quin Stephen Glascloone 1840 Quinlivan Mary Corlea 1846 Quinlivan Michael Corlea 1839 Reddan John Lissofin 1840 Reddan John Garranboy 1846 Reddan John Carhudoty 1846 Reddan Winefred Lissofin 1846 Regan James Muckerish 1839 Renny James Castle Cluggin 1839 Roche Edmund Castle Cluggin 1839 Rochford Thomas Munmore 1840 Ronan John Deer Island 1840 Rowland John Deer Island 1847 Rowland John Deer Island 1840 Russell John Glascloone 1840 Ryan Catherine unknown 1839 Ryan Denis Corelish 1847 Ryan James Ballycairns 1839 Ryan James unknown 1839 Ryan John Ballycairns 1847 Ryan Margaret Ballyjarvis 1839 Ryan Michael Castle Cluggin 1840 Ryan Pat Castle Cluggin 1839 Ryan Simon Glascloone 1840 Ryan Thomas Killinena 1840 Ryan Thomas Castle Cluggin 1839 Scanlan John Garranboy 1847 Shallae Pat Agherina 1847 Shannon Thomas Coogy East 1839 Shannon Thomas Coogy East 1840 Slattery James Erribull 1839 Smith John Glascloone 1840 Smith Pat Glascloone 1839 Smith Pat Glascloone 1840 Smith Robert Ballygareen 1846 Spaight Michael Agherina 1847 Spellisey Widow Labasheeda 1840 St. Laurence Thady Carhubane 1847 St. Ledger John Moygallow 1841 Stack Thomas Glascloone 1840 Stackpoole John Erribull 1839 Sullivan Daniel Ballynveala 1847 Sullivan Margaret Ballyea, Limerick 1847 Tally Michael Carhuduff 1847 Touhy Hugh Killinena 1841 Tracey Mary Agherina 1847 Tracey Pat Agherina 1847 Tracey James Agherina 1847 Wallace Tom Killinena 1840 Walsh Pat Castle Cluggin 1839 Ward Bridget Killinena 1840 Welsh Mathias Killinena 1841 White Nicholas Munmore 1840 White Pat Killinena 1840 White Pat Munmore 1846

Hi Jeanne Many thanks for your advice - and yes I am very eager to check out this legendary library, of which I have only had 2 minutes to spare since I posted the query. Will get back to you when I need further help or advice. Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi, Marie, You have been given clues as to where to look for more information on your family lines. Clare's county library website is THE BEST on the whole island, unmatched as to its free and vast numbers of databases. There is no need to be in Ireland in person to find a lot of information. In fact, although I have visited "home" on fived different occasions, the great majority of information I have about my Foleys hasn't come from those visits, but from researching from the comfort of my own home in Indiana, USA. I suggest you try out www.clarelibrary.ie, using the information already given to you in regard to your place names (Moyarta and Carrigaholt, rather than the spellings you've found), and see what shakes out of the bag. Once you've done all you can from home, which you haven't yet, then post again with what you've found and what you need. Good luck! Jeanne M & M Thomas <m.mthomas@bigpond.com> wrote: I am doing as much research as I can on the family from a long way over the seas :-)) Just needed a few clues where to do my background work before I can make a dream holiday come true - just not sure of which year :-))))) Thank you for your help Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Ah, sorry, Marie, I was assuming that you were intending to do the research yourself. If you are lucky there may be someone on this list who has a readymade family tree for you. Otherwise there are genealogists in Clare, some of them on this list, who will find your family for a fee. They might be your best bet. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 21 September 2006 11:57 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Many thanks Padraig - only wish I could take one day off. But I will definitely browse the website when I can snatch a few minutes. Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" To: Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Maria, Just some quick pointers (others on this list can give you a much better in-depth briefing): Take a few weeks off work, cancel all other commitments, go to www.clarelibrary.ie and fire up "Search this website" and type in your names and take it from there. You'll have a ball. Masses of stuff. Your Carrigohall is probably Carrigaholt, Myart is probably Moyarta. Jeanne Foley Dwyer, who is a very experienced member of this list and has at least one of your names and originates from that part of Clare, may want to jump in with more precise information. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 21 September 2006 10:24 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Total newbie to this list and would love some advice of tracing my family from County Clare. The details I have are - Mary Ann Nora FOLEY b. abt 1826 Myart, Co Clare married Michael Martin COLLINS in Aug 1845 in Carrigohall, Co Clare. Michael was born abt 1825 in Myart, Co Clare. Mary Ann's parents were Michael & Honor FOLEY nee KANE. Michael's parents were Martin & Margaret COLLINS nee McGRATH. Mary Ann & Michael arrived in Australia in 1855, along with various members of both families. There is a story in the family which I have decided to research a bit further - and that is the family is from a Spanish background. 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Thomas Nestor Cloghleagh: Ennis Town: Drumbiggle Road Drumcliff John Nestor Lifford Drumcliff Bridget Nestor Lifford Drumcliff Bridget Nestor Lifford: Ennis Town: The Borheen Drumcliff I am still fighting with these NESTORS from the Griffiths Valuations of Ennis. I wondered if anyone could tell me anything about these addresses? Perhaps that would help me to get some kind of handle on them. The names are all the 'correct' names for my family, but I need to know more before I can honestly lay claim to them. Regards Margaret

Thanks for thinking of me, Sharon. I went to the link and searched the site in a couple of ways. There was a reference to a placename on the homepage in Bermondsey in London, a "Folly (or Foley) Bridge", and three individual's names in the database, with only Margaret Foley named by given name from Youghal, Co. Waterford. The other two included no other information other than who their spouses were, as related to the Lucey family. A search of this website for "Clare" didn't give me anymore indication, either, that these Foleys were connected to mine. How far afield does one look within reason when one knows that one's family must have come from somewhere outside of Clare? Jeanne Sharon Carberry <sm8carberry@comcast.net> wrote: Lucey and Foley of Kilmichael, Cork http://www.rickmansworthherts.freeserve.co.uk/webpage36.htm Clare Journal 1813 Dec 27 Deaths At Lukeville, county Cork, Basil Lukey, Esq., Attorney, late of Belvoir, in this county, aged 85 years [posted by Declan Barron in '04] Belvoir is the big house on the eastern edge of Kilkishen, associated in the mid/late 1800s with the Wilson family. posted by Sharon C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Toni, Thanks very much for these - all good food for thought. Looking at just the Tulla district births, I see avenues for further research (see below). Sharon Carberry Georgia LDS IGI-- MARTIN CUNNEEN 19 JAN 1866 0645, Kilkishen, Clare, Ireland [no twin brother Patrick - either I missed him or the transcribers did] 1880 U.S. census - could the below Mary be Ann Marie, actually a year or two older ? Orange, Essex, New Jersey Cunneen Martin 45 Ire works in hat shop Ann 37 " Catherine 15 Ire hat trimmer Mary 12 " Sarah 8 NJ Thomas 6 " Elizabeth 4 " Martin 1 " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Mason" <tmason@stny.rr.com> To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Index - CANNY, CAHILL, CUNNEEN ... > CUNNEEN > > Anna Marie Tulla 9/564 ... > Martin Tulla 4/645 > Patt " 4/645 > Twins, I assume? ...

CANNY - Nothing in Feakle, but a couple in Scariff and Kilrush, etc. Let me know if you want any of these. CAHILL - These listings just say Cork.... Dennis Cork 10/129 Ellen " 5/128 George Joseph " 10/196 Michael " 10/116 Patrick " 10/115 There were quite a few in Clare.... CUNNEEN Anna Marie Tulla 9/564 Bridget Ennis 14/298 Hannah " 14/260 James " 14/243 John Killadysert 9/359 Martin Tulla 4/645 Patt " 4/645 Twins, I assume? Winney Nenagh 13/581 More to come........

I came across this note to myself while reviewing notes today and I pass it along, although it may have been posted to the list at some point in the past. I did not include any source for this info, and I have not checked to ensure accuracy. "There is extensive biographical information on James Finucane and the family generally in the Inchquin Papers in the National Library of Ireland. These include MS 558, 3045, 3046, 14488 and 14497." Sharon Carberry

Lucey and Foley of Kilmichael, Cork http://www.rickmansworthherts.freeserve.co.uk/webpage36.htm Clare Journal 1813 Dec 27 Deaths At Lukeville, county Cork, Basil Lukey, Esq., Attorney, late of Belvoir, in this county, aged 85 years [posted by Declan Barron in '04] Belvoir is the big house on the eastern edge of Kilkishen, associated in the mid/late 1800s with the Wilson family. posted by Sharon C.

While there is nothing definitive about these findings, I do think there is a direct connection between the families named Grace who lived in Kilkishen (East Clare) and Coolmeen (West Clare, by Kilrush). At this time there are only indications of a common gene pool from which two physical traits are evident in the below records for those in both families: extreme height and a combination of blue eyes with light brown ("fair") hair. Not every Grace necessarily had both traits, as there were some men of medium height with the indicated coloring,and some tall men with black hair. (The first few listed below do not have physical descriptions.) I invite comment and further research. Sharon Carberry Georgia Ellis Island (New York City) arrival records, online: 13 Apr 1899 the Teutonic Michael Grace age 21, from Clare going to cousin John McNamara, 69 Horatio St. (lightly written in: brother 384 Hicks St.) 1900 census NY Kings Co. Brooklyn, 6th Ward, 384 Hicks St. Grace Patrick age 24 Ire b. Mar 1876, img'd 1892, nat. papers filed longshoreman Margaret 22 Ire June 1877 img'd 1892, mar'd 7 yrs, 3 ch.b. Patrick 4 NY Jun 1895 James 3 " Sep 1896 Josephine 11/12 Jul 1899 [can't find these again in 1910 or 1920] 1 June 1900 NY Kings Co. Brooklyn, 8214 18th Ave Grace, Michael 22 Ire b. Oct 1877, img'd 1899, papers coachman, in household of livery stable proprietor the same person: 9 June 1900 NY Kings Co. Brooklyn, [no #] 18th Ave. Grace, Michael 22 Ire b. Oct 1877, img'd 1899, papers driver-coachman, in household of an embalmer 30 Sep 1904 [didn't note ship's name] Michael Grace age 19, from Kildysart, farmer going to sister Mary Jane Grace, 308 Dearborn St. Chicago IL [1910 census: Michael age 35 Ire in upstate NY, not legible] 1920 NY Bronx, 293 E. 136th St. [directly north of Manhattan] Grace Michael 44 Ire im'g 1904, alien packer, drygoods house Julia 40 Ire img'd 1900 John J. 7 NY Paul P. 3-0/12 WWI draft card: Michael Joseph Grace, residing 293 E. 136th St, NYC b. 15 Sep 1874 Ire. porter, Ha___ & Co. nearest relative: wife [same adddress] 5' 9", 185 lbs, blue eyes, brown hair 28 Oct 1906 the Umbria William E. Grace, 23 b. Kildysart, farmer going to: Crowley, 509 Lennox Ave [East Side] NYC 5' 10" fair hair, blue eyes possibly: 1910 IL Cook Co Chicago, 18th Ward Grace, William 28 Ire img'd 1907, papers clerk, express co. Bridget 29 Ire img'd 1908, mar'd one-half year 3 Oct 1909 [did not note ship's name] John Grace 20 b. Coolmeen 6' 3" black hair, blue eyes going to sister Mary Grace (no address), will meet in NY father: John Grace, Coolmeen, Co. Clare 1910 NY NY Co., Mt. St. Vincent Academy, no street address Grace, Mary 22 img'd 1906 Sister of Charity 17 Aug 1910 the Carmania Henry "Harry" Grace 17 fireman b. Coalmeen 5' 2" fair hair, blue eyes going to bros. Michael & William Grace c/o ML Grace, 2nd S of Cath? Ave, Longbranee? NY father: Michael Grace, New Bridge, Coalmeen, Co. Clare WW1 draft card-- signed 5 Jun 1917 Harry Redmond Grace b. 16 Oct 1894 Newbridge, Collmeen, Ireland steamfitter helper, with Corn Products Co., Argo IL medium height and build, grey eyes, light brown hair single had also served in Naval Reserve for 3 years, out of IL 20 Nov 1910 the Baltic Patrick J. Grace, 21 b. Kilkishen, Ire. laborer 6' brown hair, blue eyes going to friend Ml. [Michael] Moloney, c/o E.D. Morgan, Westbury Station, Long Island [NY] [could not find Patrick Grace in 1910 but did find Michael Moloney age 25 Ire in North Hempstead, Long Island, and Elizabeth Morgan, 22 Ire as a housemaid in a private family in Hempstead NY - I think Westbury Station was the train station stop. Lizzie Morgan arrived in 1904 from Corofin and Michael Moloney age 19 arrived in 1902 from Corofin.] 1 May 1911 the Baltic James Grace 20 b. Kilkishen laborer 5' 11" fair hair, blue eyes gong to brother Patrick Grace, Westbury Station, Long Island mother: Mrs. M. Grace 26 June 1912 the Caronia William Grace 21 b. Clonlea 5' 10 " fair hair, blue eyes going to brother P. Grace, Westbury Station, Long Island mother: Mrs. Grace, Kilkishen, Clonlea, Co. Clare 13 June 1913 the Adriatic George Grace 20 b. Kilkishen laborer 5' 11" fair hair, blue eyes going to brother William Grace, Long Island NY mother: Ellen Grace, Kilkishen, Co. Clare WW1 draft card: signed 5 June 1917 George Grace b. 2 Feb 1894 Co. Clare, Ire. first papers filed tall, slender, light brown hair, blue eyes single, partly supports mother and sisters footman employed by George Gould, 857 1st Ave NYC 1920 NY NY Co. Manhattan George J. Grace 26 Ire. img'd 1912, nat'd 1919 footman, in a lawyer's household and/or 1920 Washington, D. C. Walter Reed Hospital [military] George Grace 26 Ire img'd 1912, nat'd 1918 soldier, US Army 20 June 1914 the Celtic Michael Grace 20 b. Coolmeen 6' fair hair, blue eyes and Johanna Grace age 18, 5' 4" fair hair, blue eyes both Michael and Johanna: father: Patrick Grace, Denin, Coolmeen, Co. clare going to sister Margaret Grace, 6 E. 58th St. NY with the Graces: Bridget O'Neill 18 b. Coolmeen, 5' 6" fair hair, blue eyes father: Michael O'Neill, Coolmeen, Co. Clare going to cousin Margaret Grace, 6 E. 58th St NYC 1910 NY NY Co., W. 172nd St, near Fort Washington Ave. Grace, Margaret 19 Ire servant no img. year given WW1 draft card: signed 5 June 1917 Michael Grace b. 27 Aug 1892 Clare, Ire. residing 466 E. 136th St. NYC cableman, N.Y. Telephone Co. single, tall, medium build, brown hair, blue eyes 1920 NY Bronx Co. no street shown Powers Simon 33 Ire img'd 1909, nat'd 1919 laborer, cemetery Margaret 28 Ire " Loretta 4-7/12 NY Eileen 1-2/12 b-i-l Grace, Michael 26 Ire img'd 1915, papers telephone lineman WW1 draft card, signed 5 June 1917 Simon Powers b. 14 May 1888 Clare, Ire. residing 466 E. 136th St NYC supports wife and two children foreman, Calvary Cemetery [likely the one in Queens Co. across the East River] 22 Oct 1914 the Adriatic Patrick Grace, 25 b. Kilkishen butler 6' 2" fair hair, blue eyes going to sister Mrs. Mel Chalkey, 2443? E. 55th St. NYC mother: Mrs. Ellen Grace, Kilkishen Co. Clare WW1 draft card: Patrick Grace b. 17 Mar 1889 Co. Clare, Ire. butler for Theodore Schulze, 456 Summit Ave, St. Paul MN supports wife and mother [1910 census: Theodore Schulze, 45 MN, at that address. No 1920 listing for that Schulze in US or Patrick Grace in MN.] 7 May 1920 the Celtic Robert Grace 25 b. Kilkishen 6' 1" fair hair, blue eyes going to brother James Grace, Seaside Home, Great River L.I. mother: Mrs. E. Grace, Kilkishen, Co. Clare same page: Eileen F. Grace 21 b. Kilkishen 5' 10" fair hair, blue eyes going to sister Mrs. Chalkey, Dobbs Ferry [Westchester Co.] mother: Mrs. E. Grace, Kilkishen, Co. Clare 1920 NY Suffolk Co. Islip twp. Great River Grace James 40 Ire img'd 1910, papers caretaker, Seaside House Catherine 26 Ire img'd 1912 Mary A. 4 NY Eileen 2 "

"Captain John Murphy is one of the oldest tug men in Buffalo harbor. He is certainly fully as well known as any of them, and his mind is replete with reminiscenses respecting the early navigation of the Buffalo creek and Niagara river. He is the son of Patrick and Mary (Donlon) Murphy, the former of whom was a carpenter by trade, coming from County Clare, Ireland, to America in 1848, and locating in Buffalo. Captain Murphy was born in County Clare, Ireland, June 29, 1847. He was educated in the public schools of Buffalo, and graduating from there he went to a farm in Allegany county, N. Y., where he remained about two years. His first enterprise in connection with lake traffic was the purchase of the ferry scow, with which he made a living for himself and parents, part of a season ferrying on Buffalo creek. During the season of 1861, he was fireman on the tug J. W. Peabody, following that employment by working the necessary number of years in the Bell and the Buffalo Iron Works, learning the trade. For twenty one years he has been either engineer or master of harbor and other tugs at Buffalo, Detroit, Chicago, New York and Baltimore, his last service being in 1884 upon the tug Dave and Mose, of which he was master and part owner. He has had pilot's license six years and engineer's papers ten years. He has been a member of the Local Harbor No. 41. Buffalo Harbor Master & Pilots Association since its inception. Captain Murphy married Margaret Higgins at Buffalo in April, 1883, and they have the following named children: Charles, George, Grace, Joseph, Alice and Gertrude. The family reside at No. 499 Fargo avenue, Buffalo, New York." end of article] http://www.halinet.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/HGL2/default.asp?ID=s882

"Captain Patrick Myers may be designated as one of the most vigorous patriarchs of the lake marine, and although seventy-two years of age retains all of his faculties to a remarkable degree. He ostensibly retired from active life on the lakes as master at the close of the season of 1896... The Captain was born on the banks of the river Shannon, in County Clare, Ireland, March 13, 1827, a son of Capt. James and Mary (Linane) Myers, and a grandson of Capt. Martin and Mary (Keaton) Myers. On the maternal side he numbers among his relatives President MacMahon, marshal of France during the Franco-Prussian war. The Myers family for many generations were salt-water sailors, and owned their own sloops. The father of our subject died on the Emerald Isle, in February, 1847, and in 1861 the mother emigrated with her family to the United States..." [much more description follows] http://www.halinet.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/HGL2/default.asp?ID=s891

"Captain John Lysaght, keeper of the life-saving station at Grand Haven, Mich., during the last ten years has been uniform in his efforts to rescue life and to relieve vessels in distress. Always cool and collected in emergencies, his work has been well directed, and the results attained redound to the credit of himself and his brave surfmen. He is the son of Captain Richard and Catherine (Yore) Lysaght, and was born at St. Joseph, Mich., on January 7, 1854. His parents were natives of Ireland, the father of County Clare and the mother of County Meath. The title of Captain here applied to the father is a military one, and was earned during the Civil war. He had been a soldier in the British Army for four years, stationed in the West Indies and Canada..." [much more description follows] http://www.halinet.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/HGL2/default.asp?ID=s717

Thanks so much, Jeanne.

You are most welcome, Patty. Shanalain@aol.com wrote: Thanks so much, Jeanne. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

ARKINS/HARKINS married in 1855 in Inagh BROGAN in Ennis 1800s CREEDY/CREADY/CURREEDY in Inagh 1800 - 1900s CRONIN in Inagh mid-1800s DOOHAN in Inagh 1800 FOLEY in Inagh mid-1800s MARRINAN in Curragh O Dea, Inagh 1800s McGRATH in Inagh 1800 + MOLLOY in Inagh 1800s PENDER in Darragh townland, parish of Killone (Ballyea) QUINN in Gortalougha townland, Knockatour, Inagh parish 1820 - 1862 QUINN in Kilfenora 1838 - 1862 QUINN in Miltown Malbay 1840s TALTY in Inagh & Killaloe, Kilfarboy 1800s Denyse Bonney in Queensland

In a message dated 9/10/06 7:56:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, padraigogealagain@rogers.com writes: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com In the message, there is a reference to irl-cork. I am wondering if there is a list for Cork similar to the Clare List for inquiries. Thanks, patty

Patty, Go to www.rootsweb.com, and click on MAILING LISTS at the top. Then, scroll down to INTERNATIONAL and find Ireland. Then, pick your list! Jeanne Shanalain@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/10/06 7:56:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, padraigogealagain@rogers.com writes: In the message, there is a reference to irl-cork. I am wondering if there is a list for Cork similar to the Clare List for inquiries. Thanks, patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com