In addition to Ray FitzGerald'a question about the listed acreage on the land occupied differing significantly between the Tithe Applotment and Griffiths Evaluation, I was wondering if maybe some people leased land and then turned around and leased it to someone else. The reason I asked is that John Darcy was listed on several properties and then was listed as Lessor on one piece of property to another individual or another Darcy. Joseph Sealy, TX

----- Original Message ----- From: <Josiebanks@aol.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Clare Genealogy Conference? > > > > Is there any more information about the proposed Clare Genealogy > > Conference in 2007? I am very interested and would appreciate hearing about > > it. > > > > Patricia Concannon > > USA > > > Ditto, Jo Banks, > NM, USA Ditto.....Ellen Tasmania.....OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Maria, have you checked out the Monaro Pioneers website, you may find something there. Regards Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & M Thomas" <m.mthomas@bigpond.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Robert in Melb >From the certificates I do have I know the family name varies from CONNORS, CONNOR & O'CONNOR. As far as I am aware the family moved to the Monaro Area in south-eastern NSW when they arrived and spread to Victoria and Far North Eastern NSW. Sorry, but definitely not in the Port Phillip area, well at least as far as I know :-))))) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Maria I have Connor ancestors that come from the west of Clare, Ennis and Kilrush areas. The Connor I know of is John Connor who married Louisa Pilkington around 1820, they had a daughter Elizabeth Connor who married a William Doherty in Ennis in 1843. William and Elizabeth then came to Port Phillip in 1844. I don't know any more about the Connor family or if Connors and Connor are the same name, however it is something to put in your archive in case. Robert in Melb -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:08 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Padraig Thank you for the tip - its exactly what I was looking for. As to your second paragraph, unfortunately I have no direct connections who are still arrive who may know, or have stories about the families. So I am already in the dark alley, fortunately there are other researchers who are distantly related to me also in the alley, so between us we come up with clues and with luck, concrete evidence which we chase. The FOLEY, COLLINS, CONNELLY & CONNORS family did do quite a bit of procreating, but they quite commonly died young (<50) and so there is little info passed down to grandchildren etc. I have yet to make contact with fellow researchers with these surnames from the families, those I am in contact with are all female lines. Now, I'm back off to do more reading :-) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Maria, I have the impression that to prevent your quest developing into a goosechase up the wrong tree in a blind alley on a dark night you need some basic pointers to Irish genealogy sources relating to the early- and mid-19th century. Fairly recently on this list Sharon Carberry mentioned two or three manuals of Irish family history which you might like to read. They answer your general questions (marriages around 1845, births around 1825, sources of evidence of evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc). Sharon's list will be in the list archives or maybe Sharon might like to post it again. By the way, you say that the family you are trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. Don't let this assumption narrow your research. Close relatives of your emigrés may have remained in Clare and procreated, i.e. you may have quite close living relatives in Clare without your knowing it. To find these people, squeeze as much information as possible out of your Australian family and ethnically close acquaintances. Every little fragment. Interview the elderly before they can no longer be interviewed. Make sound recordings of the interviews because at a later date some little remark which you considered irrelevant and disregarded during the original interview may turn out to be the missing bit in the puzzle. Be persistent and ingenious in your questioning. Anything short of spotlight, rubber truncheons and truth serum. Don't decide that you are too busy for this. By the time you are no longer busy your sources will be dead and you will regret it. I did, believe me. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 27 September 2006 08:40 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am interested in knowing more about the IFHS and the Irish Family Journal. Is there an index of family names for the journal. Is the information attainable in person or do they have someone who does inquiries/look-ups? Thanks, pat

Hi Robert in Melb >From the certificates I do have I know the family name varies from CONNORS, CONNOR & O'CONNOR. As far as I am aware the family moved to the Monaro Area in south-eastern NSW when they arrived and spread to Victoria and Far North Eastern NSW. Sorry, but definitely not in the Port Phillip area, well at least as far as I know :-))))) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Craig Doherty" <rdo40224@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Maria I have Connor ancestors that come from the west of Clare, Ennis and Kilrush areas. The Connor I know of is John Connor who married Louisa Pilkington around 1820, they had a daughter Elizabeth Connor who married a William Doherty in Ennis in 1843. William and Elizabeth then came to Port Phillip in 1844. I don't know any more about the Connor family or if Connors and Connor are the same name, however it is something to put in your archive in case. Robert in Melb -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:08 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Padraig Thank you for the tip - its exactly what I was looking for. As to your second paragraph, unfortunately I have no direct connections who are still arrive who may know, or have stories about the families. So I am already in the dark alley, fortunately there are other researchers who are distantly related to me also in the alley, so between us we come up with clues and with luck, concrete evidence which we chase. The FOLEY, COLLINS, CONNELLY & CONNORS family did do quite a bit of procreating, but they quite commonly died young (<50) and so there is little info passed down to grandchildren etc. I have yet to make contact with fellow researchers with these surnames from the families, those I am in contact with are all female lines. Now, I'm back off to do more reading :-) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Maria, I have the impression that to prevent your quest developing into a goosechase up the wrong tree in a blind alley on a dark night you need some basic pointers to Irish genealogy sources relating to the early- and mid-19th century. Fairly recently on this list Sharon Carberry mentioned two or three manuals of Irish family history which you might like to read. They answer your general questions (marriages around 1845, births around 1825, sources of evidence of evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc). Sharon's list will be in the list archives or maybe Sharon might like to post it again. By the way, you say that the family you are trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. Don't let this assumption narrow your research. Close relatives of your emigrés may have remained in Clare and procreated, i.e. you may have quite close living relatives in Clare without your knowing it. To find these people, squeeze as much information as possible out of your Australian family and ethnically close acquaintances. Every little fragment. Interview the elderly before they can no longer be interviewed. Make sound recordings of the interviews because at a later date some little remark which you considered irrelevant and disregarded during the original interview may turn out to be the missing bit in the puzzle. Be persistent and ingenious in your questioning. Anything short of spotlight, rubber truncheons and truth serum. Don't decide that you are too busy for this. By the time you are no longer busy your sources will be dead and you will regret it. I did, believe me. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 27 September 2006 08:40 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Irish Family History The Journal of the Irish Family History Society Vol IV 1988 pg 24 Family baptisms (1817-1832) of James McGrath and Mary Crimmins, Quin, Co. Clare. Burials in Waverly Cemetery, New South Wales pg 53-79 Mary Arnez b. Co.Clare ....... Ann Bennis b. Co.Clare ....... Denis Clancy b. Co.Clare ....... Ellen Coughlan b. Co.Clare ....... Elizabeth Considine b. Co.Clare ....... James Farrell b. Co.Clare ....... John Woods Flanagan b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Torphy Flannery b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Ann Johnson b. Co.Clare ....... Honora Kerins b. Co.Clare ....... James Kerins b. Co.Clare ....... Thomas Linnane b. Co.Clare ....... Honora McDonald b. Co.Clare ....... Bridget Moloney b. Co.Clare ....... James Moroney b. Co.Clare ....... John Moroney b. Co.Clare ....... Michael Moylan b. Co.Clare ....... John Mulconry b. Co.Clare ....... Elizabeth Murphy b. Co.Clare ....... Katherine O'Neill b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Ronan b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Ann Sadler b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Scally b. Co.Clare ....... Bridget Stack b. Co.Clare ....... Elizabeth Stack b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Tierney b. Co.Clare ....... Edmond Warham b. Co.Clare ....... Mary Warham b. Co.Clare ....... Martin Welsh b. Co.Clare ....... Declan

Hey, you Clare listers, if you want to have your suspicions confirmed go to http://www.top100ireland.com/ and look for libraries in the Top 100 Irish websites. The Top 100 covers all sorts of websites from Aer Lingus to Ebay.There are only 2 libraries in the Top 100. One of them is the National Library of Ireland, ranked Number 95. The other is a local authority library, ranked at Number 61. I leave it to you to go there and find out which local library is ranked 61 and is the only local library in the Top 100. Or maybe you don't need to bother. You know the answer already. Pádraig (the Paddy that was)

Hey, you Clare listers, if you want to have your suspicions confirmed go to http://www.top100ireland.com/ and look for libraries in the Top 100 Irish websites. The Top 100 covers all sorts of websites from Aer Lingus to Ebay.There are only 2 libraries in the Top 100. One of them is the National Library of Ireland, ranked Number 95. The other is a local authority library, ranked at Number 61. I leave it to you to go there and find out which local library is ranked 61 and is the only local library in the Top 100. Or maybe you don't need to bother. You know the answer already. Pádraig (the Paddy that was)

> Is there any more information about the proposed Clare Genealogy > Conference in 2007? I am very interested and would appreciate hearing about > it. > > Patricia Concannon > USA > Ditto, Jo Banks, NM, USA

And from me Sharon thank you for this information. Cheers & Best wishes, Ellen in Tassie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Irish gen. how-to books > Here is the list which I keep on hand. I have consulted > the first three of the Irish-oriented ones and the predecessor edition of the Szucs book, an absolute "must" for serious > research in the U.S. The other two are recommended by > a family historian who started her Irish research in this > century. > > Sharon Carberry > Georgia > > > Irish records : sources for family and local history > Ryan, James G. > ISBN 0916489760 > > > Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide > Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 > > > Radford, Dwight A. & Kyle J. Betit, > Discovering Your Irish Ancestors > 2001 > > Ouimetter, David S., > Finding Your Irish Ancestors: A Beginner's Guide > 2005 > > Quillen, Daniel W., > Secrets of Tracing Your Ancestors > 2005 > > Szucs, Loretto Dennis > The source : a guidebook of American genealogy > Rev. ed. 1996 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maria I have Connor ancestors that come from the west of Clare, Ennis and Kilrush areas. The Connor I know of is John Connor who married Louisa Pilkington around 1820, they had a daughter Elizabeth Connor who married a William Doherty in Ennis in 1843. William and Elizabeth then came to Port Phillip in 1844. I don’t know any more about the Connor family or if Connors and Connor are the same name, however it is something to put in your archive in case. Robert in Melb -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:08 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi Padraig Thank you for the tip - its exactly what I was looking for. As to your second paragraph, unfortunately I have no direct connections who are still arrive who may know, or have stories about the families. So I am already in the dark alley, fortunately there are other researchers who are distantly related to me also in the alley, so between us we come up with clues and with luck, concrete evidence which we chase. The FOLEY, COLLINS, CONNELLY & CONNORS family did do quite a bit of procreating, but they quite commonly died young (<50) and so there is little info passed down to grandchildren etc. I have yet to make contact with fellow researchers with these surnames from the families, those I am in contact with are all female lines. Now, I'm back off to do more reading :-) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Maria, I have the impression that to prevent your quest developing into a goosechase up the wrong tree in a blind alley on a dark night you need some basic pointers to Irish genealogy sources relating to the early- and mid-19th century. Fairly recently on this list Sharon Carberry mentioned two or three manuals of Irish family history which you might like to read. They answer your general questions (marriages around 1845, births around 1825, sources of evidence of evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc). Sharon's list will be in the list archives or maybe Sharon might like to post it again. By the way, you say that the family you are trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. Don't let this assumption narrow your research. Close relatives of your emigrés may have remained in Clare and procreated, i.e. you may have quite close living relatives in Clare without your knowing it. To find these people, squeeze as much information as possible out of your Australian family and ethnically close acquaintances. Every little fragment. Interview the elderly before they can no longer be interviewed. Make sound recordings of the interviews because at a later date some little remark which you considered irrelevant and disregarded during the original interview may turn out to be the missing bit in the puzzle. Be persistent and ingenious in your questioning. Anything short of spotlight, rubber truncheons and truth serum. Don't decide that you are too busy for this. By the time you are no longer busy your sources will be dead and you will regret it. I did, believe me. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 27 September 2006 08:40 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much Sharon. It's lucky I love reading :-)))) and that history was always a favourite :-))))) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Irish gen. how-to books > Here is the list which I keep on hand. I have consulted > the first three of the Irish-oriented ones and the predecessor edition of > the Szucs book, an absolute "must" for serious > research in the U.S. The other two are recommended by > a family historian who started her Irish research in this > century. > > Sharon Carberry > Georgia > > > Irish records : sources for family and local history > Ryan, James G. > ISBN 0916489760 > > > Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide > Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 > > > Radford, Dwight A. & Kyle J. Betit, > Discovering Your Irish Ancestors > 2001 > > Ouimetter, David S., > Finding Your Irish Ancestors: A Beginner's Guide > 2005 > > Quillen, Daniel W., > Secrets of Tracing Your Ancestors > 2005 > > Szucs, Loretto Dennis > The source : a guidebook of American genealogy > Rev. ed. 1996 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Padraig Thank you for the tip - its exactly what I was looking for. As to your second paragraph, unfortunately I have no direct connections who are still arrive who may know, or have stories about the families. So I am already in the dark alley, fortunately there are other researchers who are distantly related to me also in the alley, so between us we come up with clues and with luck, concrete evidence which we chase. The FOLEY, COLLINS, CONNELLY & CONNORS family did do quite a bit of procreating, but they quite commonly died young (<50) and so there is little info passed down to grandchildren etc. I have yet to make contact with fellow researchers with these surnames from the families, those I am in contact with are all female lines. Now, I'm back off to do more reading :-) Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Casey" <pcasey@compuserve.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Maria, I have the impression that to prevent your quest developing into a goosechase up the wrong tree in a blind alley on a dark night you need some basic pointers to Irish genealogy sources relating to the early- and mid-19th century. Fairly recently on this list Sharon Carberry mentioned two or three manuals of Irish family history which you might like to read. They answer your general questions (marriages around 1845, births around 1825, sources of evidence of evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc). Sharon's list will be in the list archives or maybe Sharon might like to post it again. By the way, you say that the family you are trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. Don't let this assumption narrow your research. Close relatives of your emigrés may have remained in Clare and procreated, i.e. you may have quite close living relatives in Clare without your knowing it. To find these people, squeeze as much information as possible out of your Australian family and ethnically close acquaintances. Every little fragment. Interview the elderly before they can no longer be interviewed. Make sound recordings of the interviews because at a later date some little remark which you considered irrelevant and disregarded during the original interview may turn out to be the missing bit in the puzzle. Be persistent and ingenious in your questioning. Anything short of spotlight, rubber truncheons and truth serum. Don't decide that you are too busy for this. By the time you are no longer busy your sources will be dead and you will regret it. I did, believe me. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 27 September 2006 08:40 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The great and addictive thing about family history aka genealogy is that it is so deeply satisfying on two fronts: (1) the why and how of our individually fitting into our ancestral lines and (2) what our families encountered through time in the broader world, i.e. history as taught in school. Plus, as I have found during my years in family history research but had not anticipated, the expansion of my knowledge of geography and even psychology/anthropology is considerable. I now not only know where major cities figuring in Irish emigration are, but I can match the city to its broader political jurisdiction, off the top of my head for the U.S. and Canadian ones. I am still working on getting up to speed on the Australian ones and I have not started yet with the New Zealand ports. When they say that keeping your mind active is the best way to ward off senility, I have visions of my old age as a wise wizard while those people who now scoff at genealogy as a hobby are drooling over their oatmeal in "the home." Keep reading, Sharon Carberry Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & M Thomas" <m.mthomas@bigpond.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Irish gen. how-to books > Thank you so much Sharon. > > It's lucky I love reading :-)))) and that history was always a favourite > :-))))) > > > Maria Thomas > LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Carberry" <sm8carberry@comcast.net> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:27 PM > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Irish gen. how-to books > > > > Here is the list which I keep on hand. I have consulted > > the first three of the Irish-oriented ones and the predecessor edition of > > the Szucs book, an absolute "must" for serious > > research in the U.S. The other two are recommended by > > a family historian who started her Irish research in this > > century. > > > > Sharon Carberry > > Georgia > > > > > > Irish records : sources for family and local history > > Ryan, James G. > > ISBN 0916489760 > > > > > > Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide > > Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 > > > > > > Radford, Dwight A. & Kyle J. Betit, > > Discovering Your Irish Ancestors > > 2001 > > > > Ouimetter, David S., > > Finding Your Irish Ancestors: A Beginner's Guide > > 2005 > > > > Quillen, Daniel W., > > Secrets of Tracing Your Ancestors > > 2005 > > > > Szucs, Loretto Dennis > > The source : a guidebook of American genealogy > > Rev. ed. 1996 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 > >

Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW

Maria, I have the impression that to prevent your quest developing into a goosechase up the wrong tree in a blind alley on a dark night you need some basic pointers to Irish genealogy sources relating to the early- and mid-19th century. Fairly recently on this list Sharon Carberry mentioned two or three manuals of Irish family history which you might like to read. They answer your general questions (marriages around 1845, births around 1825, sources of evidence of evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc). Sharon's list will be in the list archives or maybe Sharon might like to post it again. By the way, you say that the family you are trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. Don't let this assumption narrow your research. Close relatives of your emigrés may have remained in Clare and procreated, i.e. you may have quite close living relatives in Clare without your knowing it. To find these people, squeeze as much information as possible out of your Australian family and ethnically close acquaintances. Every little fragment. Interview the elderly before they can no longer be interviewed. Make sound recordings of the interviews because at a later date some little remark which you considered irrelevant and disregarded during the original interview may turn out to be the missing bit in the puzzle. Be persistent and ingenious in your questioning. Anything short of spotlight, rubber truncheons and truth serum. Don't decide that you are too busy for this. By the time you are no longer busy your sources will be dead and you will regret it. I did, believe me. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M & M Thomas Sent: 27 September 2006 08:40 To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] FOLEY & COLLINS FAMILY Hi everyone Me again. I have been doing my homework (well a little anyway) and I seem to be going in circles a bit. I do now know where the family originated from and it will definitely be on my list of must visits :-))) I also am now building up a history of why they left Ireland. When I have searched the Clare Library site, which I agree is wonderful, I am in a little difficulty. The family I am trying to locate would have left Clare in late 1854. The names I have for both Mary Ann FOLEY's parents and Michael Martin COLLINS's parents do appear frequently through the listings, and their siblings christian names. Where would I look to confirm marriages around 1845 and births around 1825. And I am a person who likes to leave a paper trail, so I am looking for concrete (hold in my hand) evidence of marriages, births, deaths etc. Thank you in advance Maria Thomas LAKE MUNMORAH, NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the list which I keep on hand. I have consulted the first three of the Irish-oriented ones and the predecessor edition of the Szucs book, an absolute "must" for serious research in the U.S. The other two are recommended by a family historian who started her Irish research in this century. Sharon Carberry Georgia Irish records : sources for family and local history Ryan, James G. ISBN 0916489760 Tracing your Irish ancestors : the complete guide Grenham, John ISBN 0806313692 Radford, Dwight A. & Kyle J. Betit, Discovering Your Irish Ancestors 2001 Ouimetter, David S., Finding Your Irish Ancestors: A Beginner's Guide 2005 Quillen, Daniel W., Secrets of Tracing Your Ancestors 2005 Szucs, Loretto Dennis The source : a guidebook of American genealogy Rev. ed. 1996

Hi, The Diary of Nicholas Peacock 1740-1751 - The worlds of a County Limerick farmer and agent by Marie-Louise Legg. Thomasina Curzon of Bealaha, Co. Clare - Footnotes pg.12. Nicholas Peacock of Barntic, Co. Clare - Footnotes pg.112. Thomas Studdert of Bunratty, Co. Clare - Footnotes pg.137. Madam Cusack of Kilkishen, Co. Clare - Footnotes pg.137. Thomas Hickman of Barntic, Co. Clare - Footnotes pg.158. Declan

Films of Clare materials, including old Church of Ire. records Located in Blackburn, Victoria research service available http://www.aigs.org.au/clareff1.htm

http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp