BISHOP JOHN YOUNG - he died in Park house, Corbally. he is buried in St. Patricks cemetery off the Tipperary road. Now I had thought this was in Limerick, but I thought that it might be in Corbally. Does anyone know where I might find this burial and if there might be a transcription of this that cemetery? With my fingers crossed I await any replies! Thanks.. Debbie

Good evening, Eric. I don't know much about the Kennys & have more information about the Dysert Kennys than the Freagh Kennys, but I suspect the two families were related. I imagine you may well already know much, if not all, of the following but I hope it may help fill in a blank or two. The sponsors at the baptism of my g-grandfather Anthony O'Dwyer in Kilmurry Ibrickane in 1839 were Thomas Kenny of Galway & Margaret Kenny of Frea, Kilfarboy. The child's mother was Ellen O'Dwyer, née Gallery, the daughter of Christopher Gallery of Newhall who in 1792 had married a Miss Kenny, daughter of Mr. Edmond Kenny of Dysart.(Ennis Chronicle Feb. 9th, 1792). Burke's Landed Gentry p 344 has Nicholas Smith O'Gorman married 1843 Margaret, daughter of Michael Kenny of Dysert & Holywell, Co. Clare. Finally, going back 150 years, the Manor Courts of the Earl of Thomand (Analecta Hibernica No.38 2004) at Ennis 10th October 1684 has William Kenny, Constable, upper division of Drumcleafe. Interestingly, at the same time the Spaight survey shows an Edmond o Dwire in Freagh of ye Castle. I wonder if the Kenny / O'Dwyer link dates from around that time. Do you know when the Kennys came to Freagh or whether they originated there? If you, or anybody else knows anything more about the people I've mentioned, I'd be very grateful for any information. In particular, I'd like to know the christian name of my g-g-g grandfather, the 1792 Mr. Kenny of Dysert. Thank you & best regards. Brendan Burke Dublin.

Hello List, I've been away for awhile and believe I may have missed something of importance..............please help! In Vicki Perry's November 10th. email she refers to her ggg grandmother's obituary of 1865 along with a note of thanks to Declan. I've searched the rootsweb archives, but didn't find any reference to obituaries. Are there Clare obituaries available somewhere?? By 1874 the last brother (#7) of my gr grandfather, MATTHEW MASON, arrived in Chicago, IL. I assume his parents, JAMES MASON and BRIDGET HAYES-MASON of Parteen, Co. Clare were deceased by this time. An obituary would be the most wonderful find! It might even help me tind Matthew's four sisters! Thanks for any help anyone might provide! Judie Mason Chicago

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Ennis National School Registers 1898-1952 By Register a.. Register 1: 1898-1902 b.. Register 2: 1902-1910 c.. Register 3: 1910-1923 d.. Register 4: 1923-1935 e.. Register 5: 1935-1952 By Surname a.. A-C b.. D-G c.. H-L d.. M-N e.. O-Q f.. R-W http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/ennis_ns/ennis_ns_register.htm Clare County Library is grateful to Ms Fíona de Buitléir for presenting us with the transcription of registers and to the Board of Management and Teachers of Ennis National School for permission to make it available. Fiona is secretary of The Clare Roots Society. Explanatory Notes by Ms Fíona de Buitléir, Ennis National School. The first five registers of Ennis National School were entered into databases during the summer of 2006, and cover the years 1898 - 1952. It was a challenging if somewhat laborious task, but many interesting things were revealed in the process. In many ways, the registers can be viewed as a mirror of the social history of Ennis. They show us what the common occupations were at the turn of the 20th century and how these changed as the decades went by. They show children being struck off the roll due to severe illness, as outbreaks of tuberculosis and diphtheria struck the town. During World War ll, we can see the names of evacuees from England appearing on rolls. In the late 40s and 50s, we see children being struck off rolls as families emigrated to England and the USA. Each change in the social and economic life of Ennis left its mark on the school's registers. 1.. The change with the greatest impact on the job of transcribing the registers was the arrival of Saorstát Éireann (the Irish Republic). This came into effect in Register 3 which covers 1910-1923. From then on, the registers were completed in Irish. We have attempted to translate the names back into English for the benefit of Ennis family descendants in the USA, Australia, etc., who are trying to research their genealogy via the internet. However, we must confess that there may be inaccuracies here. In many cases, it appears that the person who originally completed the registers simply created an Irish version of the name as best he could. In the case of non-standard surnames, we have had to guess at the translation in some instances, based on our knowledge of Ennis family names, and on the memories of some of our (very) senior past pupils. In other cases, it was difficult to decipher the handwriting, particularly the old Irish script, and this may again have caused errors in transcription. After much deliberation, it was decided to translate all the Irish first- names into English. Thus, for example, Seán appears here as John, even though he may have actually been called Seán. We had no means of knowing which version was in use. Thus, if you find an entry which resembles the person you are seeking in all details but this, there is a good chance that it actually is the one you want. Another factor to consider is that there may be a number of translations for a name. For example, John can be called Seán or Eoin in Irish. Conversely, Eoin may be translated into English as John or as Owen. "Eoin" may also be spelt Eoghan. The same principle applies to surnames, both in Irish and in English. Remember also that names were often changed, whether by accident or design, when a family emigrated to another country. Thus, the family name used in America, Australia, etc., may be slightly, or even significantly, different from the form used in Ireland. Some detective work, and a little imagination, may be needed to find your ancestors! 2.. For those unfamiliar with the Irish education system, pupils generally spend eight years at primary school. They begin in Junior Infants, then Senior Infants, followed by First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth classes. At one time there was also a seventh class but these have been phased out. They then proceed to second level schools, typically around age 12 or 13. However, in the time of registers 1 - 5, few pupils progressed to second level education. Instead, many remained at primary school until they were ready to go out to work. This meant that they may have spent more than one year in a particular class level. Indeed some appear to have spent 3 or 4 years in the Infant classes. Thus, in order to correctly interpret the registers, it is sometimes necessary to understand the cultural context in which they were set. Nowadays, education in Ireland is compulsory between the ages of 6 and 16. (Note: A factor which often confuses genealogical researchers from overseas was the former Irish tradition of calling a later-born child after a sibling who died in infancy. Thus, for example, if an infant named Mary died in 1898 aged 15 months, her sister born in 1904 might again be named Mary. This tradition no longer exists.) 3.. Some blank spaces appear in the online registers - these were left blank in the original register. 4.. In the 'Religion' field, the following abbreviations have been used: RC = Roman Catholic PR = Presbyterian EC = Established Church Acknowledgements This project was made possible by the assistance of a number of people. We would like to thank the staff of Clare Libraries for their support, especially Noel Crowley, Maureen Comber and Anthony Edwards. Garry Stack, principal of Ennis N.S., was a great souce of knowledge about all Ennis 'townie' matters. Domhnall MacMathúna of Ennis NS was a great resource in terms of Irish placenames and surnames. Finally, some of our very senior past pupils gave us insider information which only they could have provided - a very big thank you to Tony and Stevie Kenny, Alfred Tuohy, and Jim O'Brien for their invaluable contributions. Invitation If you find an error where you are certain of the correct version, we would be delighted to hear from you. We would like the register data to be useful and to be as accurate as possible. Our email address is ennisnatsch@ens.ennis.tinet.ie << Ennis National School Registers 1898-1952

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Hi Tony, Thanks for the info...do you know if is there a (free) accessible map, online, that shows the Co. Clare towns during the time period you mention? Jayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Morgan To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Mullins Jayne, My great great grandmother Anne Mullins (born 1788) married my great great grandfather Timothy Kelly (born 1779). Timothy was from Dysert O'Dea, a few miles from Inagh. They moved to farm in Kilmaley, adjacent to Inagh, probably in the 1820s, and had family that remained there until 2000. Anne Mullins died in 1875. Tony Morgan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Clare Freeman 9 July 1849 Record Court Judge Jackson took the seat on the Bench this morning at 10 o'clock. The following jury was empannelled :- John McBeth, Edmund Greene, William Macmahon, Hugh Singleton, Thomas Hewitt, Pierce Creagh, John Cullinan, Joseph Roughan, Thomas Pilkington, John Gabbett, Matthew Canny, Thomas Keane. Rose v Star Insurance Company This was an action brought by the plainfiff to recover the amount of a policy of insurance on the life of Mr. Thomas Morony, jnr., of Miltown Malbay, for the sum of £400, in the office of the Star Insurance Company, in Limerick. ....... Mr. Lane stated the case for the plaintiff. This was an action brought by Rev. Hartstonge Rose, a clergyman of the Church of England, residing in the city of Limerick ...... The first witness called was Mr. George Dartnel jnr., .... the late Mr. Thomas Moroney was witness's brother-in-law ....... ...... Record Court ..... Plant v Beehan .... This was an action brought by Mr. Patrick Denis Beehan, a shopkeeper in Kilrush, at the suit of Mr. Uriah Plant, a merchant in Cork ........ affairs subsequently grew worse, and in the summer of 1847 Mr. Denis Beehan and his son formed a scheme whereby in the months of September and October above £1050 worth of goods were transferred to his son. At that perion Mr. Patrick Beehan engaged a shop in the town of Kilrush and another at Ennistymon, and they then removed to these shops all the valuable goods from the shop of the father, Mr. Denis Beehan, ......... Mr. E. Mahony made a will by which he left property to his nephew, Denis Beehan in trust for his eldest son (Mr. Patrick Beehan) the defendant, and also appointed his father (Mr. D. Behan) his executor. ..... Mr. Butler, who had acted as agent over Poole Hickman's property after his death, proved having paid Mr. Denis Beehan £375 of a debt for which he held Mr. Hickman's bond; and Mr. Thomas Keane who had been Mr. Hickman's agent ............ Clare Freeman 12 July 1849 Record Court The Vice Guardians of the Kilrush Union v Simon O'Donnell This was an action at the suit of Mr. Edmund Kelly and Mr. Michael Maher, Vice Guardians of the Union of Kilrush, to recover from Mr. Simon O'Donnell certain sums of money, alleged to have been embezzled by Tompkins Pierse, while acting as one of the poor rate Collectors of that union, and for whom Mr. O'Donnell was one of the securities. .......Tompkins Pierse had been acting as Rate Collector for the electorial divisions of Kilmurry and Killard up to Jan 1849 .... He is since dead. ..... his father (Garrett Pierse) who had been the previous Collector .... Tompkins Pierse had succeeded his father as collector in July 1848 .... Declan

Hi, Clare Freeman 9 July 1849 ....... Michael Connor, a child of about ten years of age, was indicted for stealing 3 sheep, the property of William Allender of Kilrush, on 8th May last. Guilty. One months imprisonment from date of committal. Timothy Liddy, was indicted for stealing two shirts, the property of timothy Donnellan, of Rosroe, on the 28th of June last. Guilty. To be imprisoned for three months from date of committal, with hard labour. Margaret Burke, was indicted for stealing several articles of wearing apparel, the property of James Halloran of Scariff, on the 25th June last. Guilty. Three months imprisonment from date of committal, with hard labour. Pat Leo was indicted for stealing several articles of wearing apparel, the property of Mary Hehir, of Doona, on the 27th June last. Guilty - to be imprisoned 3 months from committal with hard labour. Mary Hickey, was indicted for stealing three geese, the property of Daniel O'Brien of Killestry, on the 25th June last. Guilty. Imprisoned 6 months from from committal with hard labour. Catherine Quin for stealing a gown, the property of John O'Loughlin, of Miltown, on the 5th of June - Verdict - Not guilty. Steven Haverty was indicted for stealing an iron gate, the property of Thomas Crowe, Jnr., on the 26th June last. Pleaded guilty. To be imprisoned 3 months with hard labour. Catherine McDonoagh, was indicted for an assault on Francis Morris, of Newmarket-on-Fergus, on the 28th june last. Verdict - not guilty. Patt King, was indicted for attempting to set fire to and burn the dwelling house of Margaret Nihil, of Clonroadmore, on the night of 3rd July. Guilty. A point was raised in this case as to the legality of the indictment, the judge contending that the indictment was set forth wrong. Simon, Patt and Michael Keating were indicted for breaking into the house of Pat Murrahy, of Thrummera, on the 23rd June last and taking therefrom several articles, all value £1. Verdict of acquital for Patt and Michael Keating, and a verdict of guilty against Simon Keating, who was sentenced to ten years transportation. John McInerheny, imprisoned 4 months from committal with hard labour.striking Patrick Purcell of Woodcock Hill, a blow with a stick on the head, on the 9th of April last from the effects of which he died. Guilty. To be imprisoned 4 months from committal with hard labour. Patrick Molony for sacrilege. Pleaded guilty. Imprisoned 12 months from committal with hard labour. John Finucane, was indicted for appearing in arms to the terror of Her Majesty's subjects, on the night of 25th January, at Effernan. Verdict - Not guilty. Thomas Keefe, was indicted for obstructing Sub-constable John Havin in the discharge of his duty on 7th May, at Shandangan. Guilty. To be imprisoned 6 months with hard labour. Peter Egan, was indicted for an assault and an attempted robbery on Michael Cusack, of Ferrara, on the 21st March last. Pleaded guilty. Denis Molony was indicted for rape on Ellen O'Neil, on the 15th of July 1848 at Carhudaoa. The prosecutrix in this case (Ellen O'Neil) was an old woman about 80 years of age; she stated when sworn that she was only 50. She failed to identify the prisoner, as did her daughter Mary O'Neil, who, to appearance, was about 50 years of age; but stated she was only 30 years. Not guilty. Declan stealing an ir, the property of on the last. Guilty. months imprisonment from Keating were indicted

Peter wrote: > Chris Goopy wrote: > > >> The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the >> water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things >> used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s: >> >> > > Ummm ... no. > > http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm > > Thanks, Peter... I've sent this on as entertainment... not as verified truth... wasn't there myself... :-) I'm a great fan of Snopes, but I have found that it can be a bit like Wikipedia... great mostly, but at times, it depends on the writer's point of view. However, if these things can be verified or disputed, then hope someone has fun doing so. Take care, Chris

Sorry Donal, You are correct. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > Thanks Larry, > I didn't realise that that was there. I 'll speak to my site guru about > correcting it. Meanwhile the easiest work around would be to subscribe > €10 and this would work out at a total of €20. > Looking forward to 7th December, I presume its Council Chamber of the > MUSEUM, rather than Library. > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan > Sent: 13 November 2006 13:33 > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > > Donal, > > Good site with great potential. > > I note if you join there is an add on of another 10.00 euro. > > Is this correct. > > Kind regards, > > Larry. > > p.s. my presentation is down for the first Thursday in December 7th. at > 8.00 > p.m. at Council Chamber in Library. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> > To: "'Declan Barron'" <newparkhouse.ennis@eircom.net>; > <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > > > Hello Declan, > Sorry, but it's a manual system and I've been in Cork all day. > Anyhow username "member" and password "member" (without the inverted > commas)will get you in. > Once you log in a new "Member Menu" will appear under "Visit our Shop" > then click on the link to visit the archive. I hope you enjoy it and > would be delighted to hear any comments, good or bad. > Regards > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Declan Barron > Sent: 10 November 2006 23:06 > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > > Hi Donal, > I subscribed as requested, > Should I have recieved a password ? > Declan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> > To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > > > Larry, > Your audience may find something of interest on WWW.OAC.IE Unfortunately > we have to make a small charge for access to the archive, as a > contribution to the financing of our larger project, but, for anyone > interested in County Clare, we believe there is good value for money. > Our archive (the contents, and contents pages of each volume, can be > inspected free) includes the full run of Dal gCais - The Journal of > Clare, Parish Histories of Kilfarboy, Kilmihil and Kilmurry Ibrickane, > Some works by the writer Tomás O hAodha and a (uniquely)full listing of > headstone inscriptions of Kildimo Graveyard (near Miltown). Coming > shortly will be a full listing of Killernan inscriptions (parish of > Kilmurry Ibrickane) and also of Freagh (Kilfarboy). Also forthcoming are > translations of the work of the Clare poet Micheál Coimín and the > Ennistymon CBS Jubilee annual for 1974. Any publicity you can give for > our project will be much appreciated. > > By the way, you didn't give a date for your talk, which I hope to > attend. > > Donal De Barra > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan > Sent: 05 November 2006 10:04 > To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. > > A Charda, > > As previously listed The Clare Roots Society which was formed in April > 2006 > is progressing well. > >>From a simple letter in the local newspapers we have progressed to an > attendance at the last talk was 54 where we were given details of the > RIC. > with regard to Genealogy. > > Declan Barron is our Chairperson back here in Clare. > > I am down to make a presentation at the end of November with regard to > "Genealogy-Computer-The Internet". > > As part of the internet section I want to introduce ROOTSWEB both the > Mailing List & the Message Boards. > > In particular I want to show the value of these Boards to the people > back > here in Clare. > > In addition I would like to seek out from the wider world people, list > members that would be prepared to act as Mentors with regard to their > Country or Area. > > I would present the mentor on the night of the talk as a contact person > who > would point the person in the right direction with regard to their > search > within that area. > > In addition we have all found useful web sites down through the years > with > regard to Clare contacts abroad, > > Could individual list member please forward the sites and addresses that > > they found useful with regard to research. > > "YOUR COUNTY NEEDS YOU" > > Mise le meas, > > Larry. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.24/514 - Release Date: > 02/11/2006 > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.24/514 - Release Date: > 02/11/2006 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: > 10/11/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: > 10/11/2006 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: > 10/11/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: > 10/11/2006 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent by an English friend... just in case some haven't seen it before... Chris Now this is real education for you. The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s: These are interesting... Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married. Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying: "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence. The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they added more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying a "thresh hold." In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat." Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food,causing lead-poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous. Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,and guests got the top, or "upper crust." Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake." England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave.When reopening these coffins, 1 of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift")to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer " And that's the truth... Now, whoever said that History was boring!!!

Hi Larry, Hope all goes well for the 7th. Michele >> p.s. my presentation is down for the first Thursday in December 7th. at >> 8.00 p.m. at Council Chamber in Library.<<

Thanks Larry, I didn't realise that that was there. I 'll speak to my site guru about correcting it. Meanwhile the easiest work around would be to subscribe €10 and this would work out at a total of €20. Looking forward to 7th December, I presume its Council Chamber of the MUSEUM, rather than Library. Donal -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 13 November 2006 13:33 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Donal, Good site with great potential. I note if you join there is an add on of another 10.00 euro. Is this correct. Kind regards, Larry. p.s. my presentation is down for the first Thursday in December 7th. at 8.00 p.m. at Council Chamber in Library. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: "'Declan Barron'" <newparkhouse.ennis@eircom.net>; <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Hello Declan, Sorry, but it's a manual system and I've been in Cork all day. Anyhow username "member" and password "member" (without the inverted commas)will get you in. Once you log in a new "Member Menu" will appear under "Visit our Shop" then click on the link to visit the archive. I hope you enjoy it and would be delighted to hear any comments, good or bad. Regards Donal -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Declan Barron Sent: 10 November 2006 23:06 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Hi Donal, I subscribed as requested, Should I have recieved a password ? Declan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Larry, Your audience may find something of interest on WWW.OAC.IE Unfortunately we have to make a small charge for access to the archive, as a contribution to the financing of our larger project, but, for anyone interested in County Clare, we believe there is good value for money. Our archive (the contents, and contents pages of each volume, can be inspected free) includes the full run of Dal gCais - The Journal of Clare, Parish Histories of Kilfarboy, Kilmihil and Kilmurry Ibrickane, Some works by the writer Tomás O hAodha and a (uniquely)full listing of headstone inscriptions of Kildimo Graveyard (near Miltown). Coming shortly will be a full listing of Killernan inscriptions (parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane) and also of Freagh (Kilfarboy). Also forthcoming are translations of the work of the Clare poet Micheál Coimín and the Ennistymon CBS Jubilee annual for 1974. Any publicity you can give for our project will be much appreciated. By the way, you didn't give a date for your talk, which I hope to attend. Donal De Barra -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 05 November 2006 10:04 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. A Charda, As previously listed The Clare Roots Society which was formed in April 2006 is progressing well. >From a simple letter in the local newspapers we have progressed to an attendance at the last talk was 54 where we were given details of the RIC. with regard to Genealogy. Declan Barron is our Chairperson back here in Clare. I am down to make a presentation at the end of November with regard to "Genealogy-Computer-The Internet". As part of the internet section I want to introduce ROOTSWEB both the Mailing List & the Message Boards. In particular I want to show the value of these Boards to the people back here in Clare. In addition I would like to seek out from the wider world people, list members that would be prepared to act as Mentors with regard to their Country or Area. I would present the mentor on the night of the talk as a contact person who would point the person in the right direction with regard to their search within that area. In addition we have all found useful web sites down through the years with regard to Clare contacts abroad, Could individual list member please forward the sites and addresses that they found useful with regard to research. "YOUR COUNTY NEEDS YOU" Mise le meas, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.24/514 - Release Date: 02/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Hi, Clare Freeman 18 Sept 1858 Marriage On the 7th inst., at St. Peter's Church, Dublin, by the Rev. Charles Fitzgerald, of Clondegad Glebe, Ennis, father of the bridegroon, Michael Firzgerald, Esq., to Henrietta susan, youngest daughter of the late Richard Coplen Langford, Vicar of Kilfarboy, county Clare. The Rev. Michael Quinlivan, lately R.C. Administrater of Newmarket-on-Fergus, has been removed to Kilmacduane, and is secceeded by the Right Rev. Dr. Flannery, lately appointed R.C. Coadjutor Bishop of the diocese. The parishioners of Newmarket are about presenting an address and testimonial to Rev. Quinlan on his removal. Clare Freeman 25 Sept 1858 To Be Let ...... The Townland of Ballea west, containing 188a 2r 8p and part of the lands of Ballea Middle, containing 80a both Irish Plantation measure. .... Parish of Inagh .... Application in writing to be directed to P. Reilly, Moher Lodge, Ennistymon. Ennis Union The Board of Guardians ....... John Cotter, Clerk of the Union ... Corofin Union Sir Colman O'Loughlin, Bart., and Mr. Pat Shannon attended ..... Ennistymon Petty Sessions On the Bench - The Venerable Archdeacon Whitty. T. Trant, Esq., S.I., was also present. Norry Wilson summoned Bridget Duffy, Bridget Fitzpatrick and Mary O'Loughlin, for assaulting the complainant ..... Two boys named Tooney and Quin were summoned .... fighting ... Newmarket Petty Sessions Magistrates Present - Capt. Studdert, H. P. Hickman, Thomas McMahon, Matthew Canny, Esqs. Head Constable Campbell against Mathias Finucane ...... Pat McMahon summoned Patrick Cusack .... James Meade summoned Simon O'Donoghue, ..... Broadford Petty Sessions Magistrates Present - W. Bently, and W. O'Hara, R.M., Esqs. Thomas Arthur, Esq., v Michael Connell .... Denis Leaney summoned James Doyle ..... Corofin Petty Sessions Edward Wm. Burton, Esq., in the Chair. Martin Donohue against Patrick Flanagan for trespass. .... John Curtin against John W. Kelly Esq., Drainage Engineer, for wages £2 10s. mr. molony (solicitor) appeared for the complainant, and Mr. Hynes for defendant. Curtin was employed as a watchman to take care of the impliments on the drainage works at the bridge of Corofin ....... Mr. Kelly's steward (Considine) ...... Borough Court Magistrates Presiding - Michael Kerin and Francis N. Keane, Esqs. Thomas Walsh ........ Surveyor of the Borough ....... the house formerly occupied by Lawrence O'Kearney, in Mill Street, should be taken down .... unless the landlord 9Mr. Philip O'Donnell) ...... Accident - On Sunday evening last as Mr. Jonas Studdert, J.P., Mr. John O'Donnell, and Miss Morgan were driving through Ennistymon on a sidecar ....... overthrown in the square opposite Mr. O'Brien's house ..... Fatal Accident - On Monday last, a man named Patrick Corbett, returning from the fair of Tubber, stopped to take dinner at a house in Crusheen ..... choked ...... To Be Sold The Profit Rent arising out of the House in Mill Street, Ennis, now let to Mr. James Mulqueeny, Baker, at £30 a year, for two lives aged 47 and 65. The House in Bow Lane occupied by Mr. William Carroll, Builder, held under lease for ever, at the rent of £4 12s 4d. Tenders for the above will be recieved until the 1st of October next, by Wm. B. Burne, Esq., St. Leonard's Villa, near Exeter, when the purchaser will be declared. August, 1858. For the Best and Cheapest Stock of Dublin Boots and Shoes In The County of Clare, Go to J. MELVILLE'S Market Square, Kilrush An in-door Apprentice wanted - A fee required. Marriages At Chuckland Church, Sussex, Thomas S. MacAdam, Esq., of Blackwater, county Clare, and Major in the 3rd West York Militia, to Ellen, daughter of the late Captain Preston, R.N., of Borde-hill, county of Sussex. On Tuesday, the 21st inst., at St. Patrick's Church, Parteen, by the Right Rev. Dr. Fallon, R.C. Bishop of Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora, assisted by the Rev. William Bourke, P.P., St. John's, uncle of the bride, and Rev. Daniel O'Connor, D.D., Thomas Greene, Esq., Ennis, to Honoria, eldest daughter of John McDonnell, Esq., J.P., Fairy-hill, county Clare. The ships in harbour belonging to Mr. McDonnell displayed their gayest flags in rejoicing for the happy event. On Tuesday last in Ennistymon, Constable Patrick McDermot to Miss Bridge Carrigg, daughter of Mr. Austin Garrig, Ennistymon. Death On the 19th instant, at Ennis, of erysipelas in the head, Ester Elizabeth Phebe Heard, the beloved wife of A. N. H. Heard, Esq., Sub-Inspector of Constabulary, and second daughter of the late Eustace Stawell, Esq., of Coolmain, county Cork, leaving an afflicted husband and seven sons to deplore her loss. On Tuesday morning, of croup, Louisa Mary, aged three years and two months, the beloved daughter of George Lysaght, Esq., of Cappa House, in this county. Declan

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Donal, Good site with great potential. I note if you join there is an add on of another 10.00 euro. Is this correct. Kind regards, Larry. p.s. my presentation is down for the first Thursday in December 7th. at 8.00 p.m. at Council Chamber in Library. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: "'Declan Barron'" <newparkhouse.ennis@eircom.net>; <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Hello Declan, Sorry, but it's a manual system and I've been in Cork all day. Anyhow username "member" and password "member" (without the inverted commas)will get you in. Once you log in a new "Member Menu" will appear under "Visit our Shop" then click on the link to visit the archive. I hope you enjoy it and would be delighted to hear any comments, good or bad. Regards Donal -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Declan Barron Sent: 10 November 2006 23:06 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Hi Donal, I subscribed as requested, Should I have recieved a password ? Declan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal De Barra" <bonina@eircom.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. Larry, Your audience may find something of interest on WWW.OAC.IE Unfortunately we have to make a small charge for access to the archive, as a contribution to the financing of our larger project, but, for anyone interested in County Clare, we believe there is good value for money. Our archive (the contents, and contents pages of each volume, can be inspected free) includes the full run of Dal gCais - The Journal of Clare, Parish Histories of Kilfarboy, Kilmihil and Kilmurry Ibrickane, Some works by the writer Tomás O hAodha and a (uniquely)full listing of headstone inscriptions of Kildimo Graveyard (near Miltown). Coming shortly will be a full listing of Killernan inscriptions (parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane) and also of Freagh (Kilfarboy). Also forthcoming are translations of the work of the Clare poet Micheál Coimín and the Ennistymon CBS Jubilee annual for 1974. Any publicity you can give for our project will be much appreciated. By the way, you didn't give a date for your talk, which I hope to attend. Donal De Barra -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan Sent: 05 November 2006 10:04 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Clare Roots Society-World Links. A Charda, As previously listed The Clare Roots Society which was formed in April 2006 is progressing well. >From a simple letter in the local newspapers we have progressed to an attendance at the last talk was 54 where we were given details of the RIC. with regard to Genealogy. Declan Barron is our Chairperson back here in Clare. I am down to make a presentation at the end of November with regard to "Genealogy-Computer-The Internet". As part of the internet section I want to introduce ROOTSWEB both the Mailing List & the Message Boards. In particular I want to show the value of these Boards to the people back here in Clare. In addition I would like to seek out from the wider world people, list members that would be prepared to act as Mentors with regard to their Country or Area. I would present the mentor on the night of the talk as a contact person who would point the person in the right direction with regard to their search within that area. In addition we have all found useful web sites down through the years with regard to Clare contacts abroad, Could individual list member please forward the sites and addresses that they found useful with regard to research. "YOUR COUNTY NEEDS YOU" Mise le meas, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.24/514 - Release Date: 02/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Dear Vicki I can only say that a Frank Coffee was a friend/relative of my great grandfather Michael O'Donoghue and they came to Australia on the same ship. In the Irish family tree, a John Coffee married Anna O'Donoghue (b. 1813) sister of my great grandfather and they had eight children. Eliza and Jane are not among the names I have. Regards Brenda Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki Perry" <vickifperry@hotmail.com> To: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Coffee/Coffey, Perry, O'Dwyer, Butler > Hi, > > I have been going through the archives of this mailing list and have seen > a > few links to the Coffey/Coffee family and was wondering if anyone could > help > me to place mine. > > My great great great grandmother was Eliza Coffey. She married Edward > Perry > and they had 9 children in Liscannor County Clare. Eliza died in 1865 and > her obituary (thanks Declan) says that she was the daughter of Francis > Coffee, land surveyor. Eliza would have been born about 1822. > > I suspect her mother may have been Jane Coffey. Jane holds the same lands > in > Griffiths that Francis Coffee does in the tithe books. Jane died in 1875 > and > the informant is Edward Perry, although no relationship is given. > > I have found Francis Coffey's obituary and he died in 1844, at what > appears > to be a young age. I have also come across several maps in the NLI that he > did and reference to the fact that he was the valuer for Ennistymon Union. > > On this list a few years ago, someone said that they had a "Francis COFFEY > born c.1790 married Jane O'DWYER of Kilrush granddaughter of the famous > Jenny BUTLER whose 6 daughters married KENNY, SHANNON, MAHON, KELLY, > O'DWYER, O'GORMAN". I wonder if these could be my Francis and Jane? > > I hope that someone can help me to piece all of this information together! > > Thanks > > Vicki > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses > http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 9/11/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/06

"Kenny Family of Freagh Castle, Miltown Malbay, Co. Clare: contact sought with anyone with knowledge of this family. I have some photos of the family dating from the 1880s of which most are named. Eric Shaw kimony@unison.ie" ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word subscribe without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I've been away for awhile and believe I may have missed something of importance..............please help! In Vicki Perry's November 10th. email she refers to her ggg grandmother's obituary of 1865 along with a note of thanks to Declan. I've searched the rootsweb archives, but didn't find any reference to obituaries. Are there Clare obituaries available somewhere?? By 1874 the last brother (#7) of my gr grandfather, MATTHEW MASON, arrived in Chicago, IL. I assume his parents, JAMES MASON and BRIDGET HAYES-MASON of Parteen, Co. Clare were deceased by this time. An obituary would be the most wonderful find! It might even help me tind Matthew's four sisters! Thanks for any help anyone might provide! Judie Mason Chicago