Patrick..............I cant fault you for not understanding my question. It was not stated very well. I know quite a bit about my Fitzpatrick family in Brooklyn, NY but very little about themin Ireland except that they originated in County Clare. I have identified a few cemeteries in Clare where they are buried but thats all. I didnt know what those maps were all about and was hoping that somehow they could be useful in my quest. Im now convinced that they will not help in my particular case so will move on to grasp at the next straw that comes along. Thank you for your interest. Kevin Patrick Casey <pcasey@compuserve.com> wrote: I'm afraid I can't help Kevin, Sharon, because I cannot understand his questions. It is evident from the URLs that these maps are modern-day ones. I find them relevant to my interests as a family historian in that they allow location of houses and other village buildings which are still standing (or were in 2003). However, I'm not sure what is relevant to Kevin's interests. Anyway, please keep these gems coming. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry Sent: 27 December 2006 00:03 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Latest Ordnance Survey map of Kilkishen I think Padraig (Paddy that was) Casey will be the best to indicate how to use this version of the map. I regard it as the latest version, currently in use by Irish planning authorities. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fitzpatrick" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Latest Ordnance Survey map of Kilkishen > Sharon.............That is a nice map but I dont have a clue as to how to utilize it. Does it relate to some date that gives it some relevence? If not, what do I need to know to exploit it? > Kevin > > Sharon Carberry wrote: http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilki shen.pdf > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 12/26/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thanks Sharon.............I know my Fitzpatrick family came from County Clare and I have the names of cemeteries where some are resting but thats about all I know of thrm in Ireland. Based on your info and some remarks from Padraig, I dont think those maps have any application for me. I was hoping somehow they would help my search. Oh well. Kevin Sharon Carberry <sm8carberry@comcast.net> wrote: I think Padraig (Paddy that was) Casey will be the best to indicate how to use this version of the map. I regard it as the latest version, currently in use by Irish planning authorities. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fitzpatrick" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Latest Ordnance Survey map of Kilkishen > Sharon.............That is a nice map but I dont have a clue as to how to utilize it. Does it relate to some date that gives it some relevence? If not, what do I need to know to exploit it? > Kevin > > Sharon Carberry wrote: http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilki shen.pdf > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 12/26/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

How interesting, Sharon ! Modern-day OS maps of Clare were flagged to us some time back by a member of the List but they then ceased to be accessible to The Great Unwashed online. Here they are again. I couldn't find a root map directory which offered access but I see that if one substitutes Killaloe for Kilkishen in the URL (i.e. http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/killa loe.pdf ) you get a plan of Killaloe. Scariff and Ogonelloe don't work, however. But further juggling with the URL gets me a map of Tubber at http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/North_Clare_Settlement/Tubb er.pdf and Ruan at http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/North_Clare_Settlement/Ruan .pdf and Corofin at http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/North_Clare_Settlement/Coro fin.pdf And so it goes on. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Carberry Sent: 26 December 2006 19:02 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Latest Ordnance Survey map of Kilkishen http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilki shen.pdf ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Amen to Dingle - our favorite place. In Clare - Berry Lodge in Spanish Point, Gleesons in Mullagh and a trip to Doolin. Mike Hampton Bays, NY -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mona everett Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:55 PM To: IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] OT: Visiting Ireland--need advice, please Hello, I would really appreciate some insider advice for my first trip to Ireland. If someone who knows about Shannon and surrounds could email me off-list, that would be wonderful! Thank you, and Happy New Year! Mona ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Make sure that you go to Dingle. What a beautiful little town! And in Sixmilebridge, dinner at Moran's.

I think Padraig (Paddy that was) Casey will be the best to indicate how to use this version of the map. I regard it as the latest version, currently in use by Irish planning authorities. Sharon C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fitzpatrick" <k_fitz29@yahoo.com> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Latest Ordnance Survey map of Kilkishen > Sharon.............That is a nice map but I dont have a clue as to how to utilize it. Does it relate to some date that gives it some relevence? If not, what do I need to know to exploit it? > Kevin > > Sharon Carberry <sm8carberry@comcast.net> wrote: http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilki shen.pdf > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 12/26/2006 > >

Hello, I would really appreciate some insider advice for my first trip to Ireland. If someone who knows about Shannon and surrounds could email me off-list, that would be wonderful! Thank you, and Happy New Year! Mona

Sharon.............That is a nice map but I dont have a clue as to how to utilize it. Does it relate to some date that gives it some relevence? If not, what do I need to know to exploit it? Kevin Sharon Carberry <sm8carberry@comcast.net> wrote: http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilkishen.pdf ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

http://www.clare.ie/Planning/DevelopmentPlanMaps/East_Clare_Settlement/Kilkishen.pdf

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Co. Mayo Wednesday, August 28, 1850 BARBAROUS MURDER IN CLARE On the evening of Sunday last a revolting murder was committed in the parish of Killofin, Barony of Clonderlaw, County of Clare, under the following horrifying circumstances: A labouring man named Patt Furey, residing in the townland of Slievedooly, resolved to seek employment at harvest work in one of the neighbouring counties, and left home on Saturday evening, giving his wife three for four shillings, which was his all, for her support until his return. His house was in one yard with a man named John Quinlivan, between whom and the deceased there existed some enmity; previous to Furey's departure it was agreed between himself and wife that two children, belonging to a neighbour named Shaughnessy should sleep with her, she having no family of her own. About nightfall on Sunday, when these children came to take up their abode with Mrs. Furey, the door was locked against them and they were terrified to hear groans, as if from some person in distress, insuing from the house, they ran in a fright and told their father, who promptly repaired to the spot, broke open the door, and to his horror found Bridget Furey apparently a corpse, the floor covered with her blood, her clothes and person so besmeared with the crimson flood of life that her identity was for a while doubtful. Shaughnessy asked for some person to accompany him for the police, and the person since accused of the commission of the crime with an effrontery and daring (worthy of a Ryan Puck) said he would go and he did go, to Labasheeda, but on their arrival there the Constable and some of the party were absent on other duty. Sub-Constables Hoye and Hickey went immediately to he spot and found Mrs. Furey not dead but unable to articulate one word, her brain was protruding from two frightful chasm, one in her forehead. The police seeing her perilous position adopted every possible stratagem to cause resuscitation, and as if Heaven willed that the assassin should not go unpunished, she rallied for a time, and declared in the presence of the police that it was John Quinlivan murdered her! The Police placed him at her bedside and asked her a second time to look up, and state who struck her, she opened one of her eyes, the other being broken in her head, looked at her murderer and said, "it was he killed me with a hatchet." She gave a dying shriek, fell back, and after a light tremor soon died of the ghastly wounds. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Best wishes to every one on the Clare List for a very Happy Christmas and successful searching in the New Year, and a special thankyou to all those generous people who share so much valuable information, from Nicola Jennings

TO EACH AND ALL COME TAKE POT-LUCK WITH ME. MY HEARTH IS WARM, MY FRIENDSHIP FREE. An Irish invite for the holiday season. Pot-luck includes fruit cake and honey baked ham. The Hearth is gas logs as our Yule log substitute. Regardless the friendship is like the advise on this list -free to all who are bold enough to venture forth. Clifford In wild and wonderful West Virginia where the tree tops brush the sky even in 60 degree December weather.

The same to you and yours.

The same to you and yours.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all on list. I may not have been very active this past year, but I sure read everything in hopes of a find! Diane Arthur-Kennedy

Hi, came across this today at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/mss/online/online-mss-catalogues/cats/newc_5thduke2cat.html Catalogue of the Papers of Henry Pelham-Clinton, 5th Duke of Newcastle under Lyne in the Newcastle Collection Political Papers as Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 1846 Ne C 9194/3 11.1845 (c) Newspaper cutting from 'The Clare Journal'; n.d. [c. Nov. 1845] Reports public meeting at Ennis, co. Clare setting up central committee and giving details of membership. 1 f Ne C 9525 1.1845-5.1846 Printed report of Criminal Offenses in Co. Clare, Ireland; Jan. 1845-May 1846 Gives details of offenses committed in co. Clare with some manuscript additions. The reports in Ne C 9524-9532 appear to be in the same format and may originally have been a single document but the severe fire damage suffered by the papers makes it difficult to be certain of their connection. 2 ff Ne C 9534 1.1846-5.1846 Printed abstract of crime in the counties of Tipperary, Limerick, Clare, Leitrim and Roscommon, Ireland; Jan.-May 1846 Gives figures by county and month showing numbers and types of offenses. 2 ff Ne C 9535 1844-1845 Printed abstract of crime in the counties of Tipperary, Limerick, Clare, Leitrim and Roscommon, Ireland; 1844-1845 Happy Christmas to all, Declan

Hi Cathi! I'm afraid I don't do research on a professional basis. I asked my sister and an English relation if they could recommend anybody. My sister knew of only one and knew nobody who had used him. English relative used one but it was 9 years ago and she doesn't know if she is still in business. I think your best bet is to go on to the National Library site www.nli.ie On the home page, on the RHS at the bottom, click on Family History Research. Then successively, Services, Family History Research in National Library. Scroll down to Commissioning Research & read all about it!

My sincere thanks to Joan, Declan and Padraig Mór for responding to my query. I'm working my way through their suggestions and already have found some additional information. Thanks again to each of you. Brendan Burke.

Alanna, The only Flynn I have found so far was Johanna married to my great-grandfather Morgan. My grandfather and his sisters where born in Kerry and left just before and after 1900 and settled in Waterbury. The sisters were Nellie, Johanna and Norah, who went on to become a nun in New Jersey. Merry Christmas! Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alanna Scanlon" <alannal@prodigy.net> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Jimmy Flynn, Singer in NY > Ned, > > Are you related to Jimmy Flynn a singer in NY in the 1920's? I used to > know of someone who was related to him-- grandson?? > > Alanna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I want to express my most profound gratitude to everyone for helping me find family I did not know I had and further discovering the family who have preceded me. The more I learn, the more I find God's children, including all of you, are just a shout away in this sometimes dreary world. Thank you, God bless A Merry and Blessed Christmas A Happy, Health and Prosperous New Year Ned Sweeney Long Island NY Descendant of the Kitsons, Keanes, Dees, Purtils, Sweeneys and Flynns - so far .....