These are all separate listings, on different pages and townlands/towns: 68. Bridon BURTON, 33 (Head) [Married 1847] - Surgeon and GP (Clare) (R/W) [family is listed with other counties of birth] http://1851.4t.com/index.html John BROWN, 38 (Visitor) [Widower - Mar. 1838] - Revenue Officer (Cape of Good Hope) (R/W) John G. BROWN, 10 (Visitor) [Unmarried] - (Clare) (R/W) http://1851.4t.com/photo4.html Parish: Larne Larne Old Town Street http://1851.4t.com/photo4.html 47. John NASH, 43 (Head) [Married 1836] - Weslayan minister (Cork) (Educated) Edna NASH, 34 (Wife) [Married 1836] - None (Clare) (Educated) Elizabeth NASH, 6 (Daughter) [Unmar.] - Miss Kilshaw & Cowan's School (Galway) (R/W) and 44. John McKEOWN, 17 (Head) [Unmarried] - Sailor - Protestant (Clare) (R) Eliza McLAUGHLIN, 23 (Wife) [Married 1848] - Sewer - Protestant (Clare) (R) 14. William CONNELL, 23 [Unmarried] - policeman (Clare) (R/W http://1851.4t.com/photo6.html posted by Sharon Carberry researching Connell and Nash

13th Mass Vol Inf, Roster S JAMES SLATTERY ; age, 20; born, Clare Co., Ireland; shoemaker; mustered in as priv., Co. K, July 16, '61; appointed Corp., March I, '64; mustered out, Aug. I, '64; residence, Worcester, Mass. p. 456 from "Three Years in the Army" by Charles E. Davis Jr., Boston 1894 placed online at: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/wa6ipd/13th%20MA%20DSL.html

23 Feb1870 "by special license...Catholic Cathedral, Shortland... John Connolly (late County Clare, Ireland), to Miss Alice Moran, second daughter of Mr. Francis Moran of ...County Cavan..." [published 10 Mar 1870] Marriage notices, New Zealand Herald, Auckland, New Zealand placed online at: http://nzgenealogy.rootschat.net/NZHerald1870marriages.html posted by Sharon Carberry not researching this surname

I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand)

Is anyone studying families named Hassett, Hassard, or any variant? My gr.-gr.-grandmother was born Honora Hassard, according to one source, = but apparently was Nora Hassett according to another. I have read that = these names are variants of one another and wonder whether they were = simply inter-changeable in the mid-nineteenth century in Clare. Honora married Daniel Melican and they raised their family in the = townland of Ballycally (now Ballycalla). That is in the parish of = Newmarket-on-Fergus, and lies between Shannon airport and the River = Fergus. A number of the offspring of Dan and Nora emigrated to New Zealand as = young adults in the eighteen-sixties and founded families. As one of = their descendants I would be interested in hearing anything about the = possibilities of my being related to any current Hassard or Hassett = descendants, apart from those descended from the Melican line. Is anyone out there doing a one-name study of the Hassett/ Hassard = family? Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand)

Hi Everyone Looking for the records or any information on William Lillis. Born in Co Clare. Joined British Army in 1914 so most likely born about 1895 - 1900. Not a lot to go on but I know that he served with the Royal Irish Regiment and was decorated with the Military Medal. It is his life prior to his military service that I am interested in. Can you help please Thanks Eamonn Byrne

Hi Bernice, This is a long shot that probably will have little value to either you or me. My Egan family roots are in Barefield. According to information provided by Clare Heritage Centre, a Catherine Hassett was the godmother of my great aunt, Mary Egan baptized in 1866. Since Barefield is a small community it would seem that your Hassetts and my Egans were related in some way or at least friends. Regards, Joan Floegel

Just a little reminder to all: when you're searching for something in any document, you can hit "ctrl" and "f" keys and it will open a little window that allows you to search for a word within that document (or website). It saves tons of time and makes searching easy. Melody

Robert, The Tubber toponyms and microtoponyms are a little confusing but have to be understood if trying to trace families in the area. "Tubber" refers to (a) a parish and (b) a vaguely defined area of 3-5 miles radius which is centred on the Tubber church* and which straddles the Clare-Galway border. Its location has also been defined over the years by the site of the Tubber post office. The latter used to be next to the church ( = in County Clare) but then moved a few hundred yards along the Gort road into County Galway. Thus letters to Tubber were addressed to "Tubber, Co.Clare" or "Tubber, Co.Galway", depending on the era. Now there is no longer a post office in Tubber so one can take one's pick of the counties (the letter will get there anyway from the post office in Gort). The part of Tubber which lies in Co. Galway is - now things get confusing - not in the parish of Tubber but in the parish of Beagh. Thus people who live in, for example, the townland of Gortavoher in the parish of Beagh in Co.Galway refere to themselves as being ".....from Tubber......". Records of Tubber families who live(d) in the Tubber townlands just over the Galway border may be found in the Beagh parish records. And - here comes the good news - thanks to Cathy Joynt Labath loads of Beagh data is online ( see http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm ). Tubber family and local historians have two well-thumbed manuals on their bookshelves. They are required reading. They are - The Parish of Kilkeedy, edited by Frank Brew, and - Beagh, A History and Heritage, edited by Marie McNamara and Maura Madden. I hope this clarifies things, ha ha. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) * The pedant would point out that this geographical area is centred, not on the church, but on the holy well of Tobereendoney which gives Tubber its name (tobar = well, in Irish). The well is situated a few hundred yards from the church, immediately to the left of the Gort road. -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Kennedy Sent: 03 January 2007 07:12 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/tom.paterson/ogrady1.htm

I should have added, "are there any Greene or Maley families, currently there?" -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:34 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families Robert, The Tubber toponyms and microtoponyms are a little confusing but have to be understood if trying to trace families in the area. "Tubber" refers to (a) a parish and (b) a vaguely defined area of 3-5 miles radius which is centred on the Tubber church* and which straddles the Clare-Galway border. Its location has also been defined over the years by the site of the Tubber post office. The latter used to be next to the church ( = in County Clare) but then moved a few hundred yards along the Gort road into County Galway. Thus letters to Tubber were addressed to "Tubber, Co.Clare" or "Tubber, Co.Galway", depending on the era. Now there is no longer a post office in Tubber so one can take one's pick of the counties (the letter will get there anyway from the post office in Gort). The part of Tubber which lies in Co. Galway is - now things get confusing - not in the parish of Tubber but in the parish of Beagh. Thus people who live in, for example, the townland of Gortavoher in the parish of Beagh in Co.Galway refere to themselves as being ".....from Tubber......". Records of Tubber families who live(d) in the Tubber townlands just over the Galway border may be found in the Beagh parish records. And - here comes the good news - thanks to Cathy Joynt Labath loads of Beagh data is online ( see http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm ). Tubber family and local historians have two well-thumbed manuals on their bookshelves. They are required reading. They are - The Parish of Kilkeedy, edited by Frank Brew, and - Beagh, A History and Heritage, edited by Marie McNamara and Maura Madden. I hope this clarifies things, ha ha. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) * The pedant would point out that this geographical area is centred, not on the church, but on the holy well of Tobereendoney which gives Tubber its name (tobar = well, in Irish). The well is situated a few hundred yards from the church, immediately to the left of the Gort road. -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Kennedy Sent: 03 January 2007 07:12 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.mcadamshistory.com/Ireland.html posted by Sharon Carberry researching Nash

Padriag, Could you tell me if there are Maley or Greene families in that area? As always, thank you for the wealth of information you generously offer to this list! Melody -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:34 AM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families Robert, The Tubber toponyms and microtoponyms are a little confusing but have to be understood if trying to trace families in the area. "Tubber" refers to (a) a parish and (b) a vaguely defined area of 3-5 miles radius which is centred on the Tubber church* and which straddles the Clare-Galway border. Its location has also been defined over the years by the site of the Tubber post office. The latter used to be next to the church ( = in County Clare) but then moved a few hundred yards along the Gort road into County Galway. Thus letters to Tubber were addressed to "Tubber, Co.Clare" or "Tubber, Co.Galway", depending on the era. Now there is no longer a post office in Tubber so one can take one's pick of the counties (the letter will get there anyway from the post office in Gort). The part of Tubber which lies in Co. Galway is - now things get confusing - not in the parish of Tubber but in the parish of Beagh. Thus people who live in, for example, the townland of Gortavoher in the parish of Beagh in Co.Galway refere to themselves as being ".....from Tubber......". Records of Tubber families who live(d) in the Tubber townlands just over the Galway border may be found in the Beagh parish records. And - here comes the good news - thanks to Cathy Joynt Labath loads of Beagh data is online ( see http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm ). Tubber family and local historians have two well-thumbed manuals on their bookshelves. They are required reading. They are - The Parish of Kilkeedy, edited by Frank Brew, and - Beagh, A History and Heritage, edited by Marie McNamara and Maura Madden. I hope this clarifies things, ha ha. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) * The pedant would point out that this geographical area is centred, not on the church, but on the holy well of Tobereendoney which gives Tubber its name (tobar = well, in Irish). The well is situated a few hundred yards from the church, immediately to the left of the Gort road. -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Kennedy Sent: 03 January 2007 07:12 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. 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That sounds like a credible explanation, Jenny. Although the National Schools system got motoring in the early 1830s I hadn't thought of the "..........young people were more likely to emigrate than the elderly....." aspect. As you imply, a large proportion of those who had just gone through the new schools emigrated. In addition to being young and vigorous and naturally restless, the young schoolleavers ( = the literate ) would presumably have been those who read the letters being sent home from the new worlds, letters which would have surely made them even more restless. And then there was the "who-gets-the-farm" factor. Young sons who had no hope of inheriting the farm would naturally seek their fortunes elsewhere. I wonder whether the "literacy" referred to English or Irish or both. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jnnyb@aol.com Sent: 03 January 2007 01:49 To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] 1841-1881 Population Figures - illiteracy Hi Padraig, The relatively high rate of illiteracy is probably linked to the age distribution. i.e if the number of young people who would/could have gone through the education system was low and the number of folder olk who didn't have that advantage was high, this may account for the figures. As young people were more likely to emigrate than the elderly, this might also contribute to the figures. Any chance of an age distribution Larry? Jenny ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert, The parish of KILKEEDY is now the parish of Tubber. I don't have access to the Tubber parish baptismal records but they have them at the Clare Heritage Centre in Corofin. They will look up your Kilkellys for a fee. I assume that you have already been to the Clare Library site at www.clarelibrary.ie and typed "Kilkelly AND Kilkeedy" into their search engine and found all the Kilkelly/Tubber records (remembering that Carrowcraheen - also spelled Carhucraheen - and Creggaunycahill are townlands in the centre of metropolitan Tubber). The Kilkelly records in Tubber go back to the Tithe Applotment times (1824). The Clare Library doesn't charge a fee for access to this cornucopia. You are on a roll. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Kennedy Sent: 03 January 2007 07:12 To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Kilkelly families I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) I am searching for the location of a family in Co. Galway, but suspect = that there may be a Clare connection. My gr.-grandfather, Michael Kennedy, was said to have been born = somewhere in Galway about 1836. He emigrated to Australia in 1857. His = parents were Michael (again) Kennedy, and Margaret Kennedy, born = Kilkelly. An informant on the Galway Rootsweb site told me that there had been = Kilkellys in the parish of Tubber in Clare, adjoining Galway. Some land in that area was transferred from Galway to Clare in the late = nineteenth century. These two facts are both of interest in my quest. Does anyone have = access to data from Tubber records that could show any Kennedy/ Kilkelly = marriage, or births/baptisms for the children of such a couple? = (Probably in the eighteen-thirties.)=20 I think that Tubber, as a parish name, has been changed to something = like Kilisheedy. Robert Kennedy (Takaka, New Zealand) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CLARE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the first time that I have heard of a Hassard variation of Hassett. Our Hassetts originated in Barefield near Ennis, County Clare. Would like to explore further off list. Please contact me at bshassett@fusenet.com Thanks Bernice Hassett

I had research done at the Clare Heritage Centre in 2001. They found a John Butler who was born in 1839 to a John Butler, which fit my grandfather's information. This family were members of the church in Tubber, County Clare. My daughter and I visited the church in Tubber, walked down the street/road, and visited with an Irish gentleman who walked up to the fence and greeted us. There was a store, the school, the church, and a few houses along the main street/road. There are pictures taken by myself and others on a site on the internet. I too have been checking both Galway and Clare records, as the north/south border is in such close proximity. When I see "Tubber" show up in any e-mails I make sure I read them in their entirety. Never know when we'll stumble on to some useful information do we! Hope all are having a great start to the New Year! Edna in Kansas, USA

Hi Padraig, The relatively high rate of illiteracy is probably linked to the age distribution. i.e if the number of young people who would/could have gone through the education system was low and the number of folder olk who didn't have that advantage was high, this may account for the figures. As young people were more likely to emigrate than the elderly, this might also contribute to the figures. Any chance of an age distribution Larry? Jenny ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

History of the Great Lakes, Vol. 2 by J.B. Mansfield Captains, Shipping, Lighthouse Keepers and Marine Biographies http://www.linkstothepast.com/marine/captainsMo.html "Captain John Murphy is one of the oldest tug men in Buffalo harbor. He is certainly fully as well known as any of them, and his mind is replete with reminiscenses respecting the early navigation of the Buffalo creek and Niagara river. He is the son of Patrick and Mary (Donlon) Murphy, the former of whom was a carpenter by trade, coming from County Clare, Ireland, to America in 1848, and locating in Buffalo. Captain Murphy was born in County Clare, Ireland, June 29, 1847. He was educated in the public schools of Buffalo, and graduating from there he went to a farm in Allegany county, N. Y., where he remained about two years. His first enterprise in connection with lake traffic was the purchase of the ferry scow, with which he made a living for himself and parents, part of a season ferrying on Buffalo creek. During the season of 1861, he was fireman on the tug J. W. Peabody, following that employment by working the necessary number of years in the Bell and the Buffalo Iron Works, learning the trade. For twenty one years he has been either engineer or master of harbor and other tugs at Buffalo, Detroit, Chicago, New York and Baltimore, his last service being in 1884 upon the tug Dave and Mose, of which he was master and part owner. He has had pilot's license six years and engineer's papers ten years. He has been a member of the Local Harbor No. 41. Buffalo Harbor Master & Pilots Association since its inception. Captain Murphy married Margaret Higgins at Buffalo in April, 1883, and they have the following named children: Charles, George, Grace, Joseph, Alice and Gertrude. The family reside at No. 499 Fargo avenue, Buffalo, New York."

History of the Great Lakes, Vol. 2 by J.B. Mansfield Published Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co. 1899 http://www.linkstothepast.com/marine/captainsL.html "Captain John Lysaght, keeper of the life-saving station at Grand Haven, Mich., during the last ten years...is the son of Captain Richard and Catherine (Yore) Lysaght, and was born at St. Joseph, Mich., on January 7, 1854. His parents were natives of Ireland, the father of County Clare and the mother of County Meath. The title of Captain here applied to the father is a military one, and was earned during the Civil war. He had been a soldier in the BritishArmy for four years, stationed in the West Indies and Canada. When he dissolved his connections with that army in 1828, he came to the United States, locating in St. Joseph, where he opened a grocery store, which he conducted up to July 28, 1862, when he decidedto take part in the struggle then going on between the North and the South. He sold out his business, and enlisted in Company I, 19th Mich. Vol. Inf., and owing to his qualitiesas drill master, he received a commission from the Governor of Michigan as captain of his company. His regiment was assigned to the Army of Kentucky, afterwards being transferred to the Army of Cumberland. He was with his regiment in the battle of Thompsons Station where it captured the colors of the 4th Mississippi Regiment, and at Stone river and McMinnville. After remaining in the front about a year he resigned on account of illness, and returned home, where he died in August, 1872. Capt. John Lysaght, the subject of this sketch, acquired his education in the public schools of St. Joseph, and in 1872 shipped before the mast in the schooner Guide with Captain Whitney, transferring to the schooner Lizzie Doak, and closed the season on the Bessie Boalt, then engaged in the iron ore trade. During the next four years he sailed on...schooners...In 1877 he went to the Black Hills and gained some experience in a mining camp, but he is very reticent regarding the amount of his wealth obtained. On returning to the East he with some companions stopped at Fort Randall where they constructed a raft out of four slabs and an old door, with which they navigated the Missouri river. In the spring of 1882 he became mate and supercargo of the scow Libbie Carter. During the previous years the Captain had become an expert boat-man and in 1883 he joined the Muskegon life-saving station as surfman, transferring the next year to the station at Big Point Sauble, and it was in March 1885, that he was promoted to be keeper of that station...In 1866 Captain Lysaght was appointed keeper of the station at Racine, Wis., where he remained until July, 1888...It was July, 1888, that he was transferred to the station at Grand Haven, where he is keeper at this writing, and where he and his crew have made a most enviable record among life savers on the lakes... Capt. John Lysaght was wedded to Miss Mary, daughter of Rev. Ezekia (sic) and Elizabeth (Hammond) Harney, of Ludington, Mich., the ceremony being performed on April 6, 1885. The children born to this union are: Agnes L., Alice Elizabeth, John W., Kathleen Mary and Jane Margaret...Socially the Captain is a member of the Sons of Veterans."