I may be incorrect, but I thought NYC has Diocese Archives for old sacramental records.  Most of your older Diocese has them.  In Cleveland, one cannot research yourself but you can send a written request with the data you have.  There is a very minmal fee.  The turnaround here can be months because there are only a few people doing it.  Also, which might be true for NYC as in other cities, with the forced closing of RC churches, the sacramental records from those parishes is an overwhelming job.  Therefore, research requests are on the back burner. Also, subscrube to the NYC or New York rootsweb list.  There are probably people who help you. Since this is a County Clare list, I just assume it is NYC, however, Cleveland OH has streets & RC churches of the same names. Mary Elle Chambers ________________________________ From: Lewis Pat <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; CLARE IRL IRL <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 10:20:42 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Anyone have info RC churches I'm trying to find RC churches that would have been available for residents in areas of E 60-65th St  between East River and Park Ave....I have called St Patricks several times for help and hung up  on without info...told to call some places and got no answers,  Ive been looking for over 10 years, trying to find possiblity of where my grandparents married (in church) about 1900-1901 before they moved further uptown area of the 90-100St's by 1902. Found nothing in the NYC records when last there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm trying to find RC churches that would have been available for residents in areas of E 60-65th St between East River and Park Ave....I have called St Patricks several times for help and hung up on without info...told to call some places and got no answers, Ive been looking for over 10 years, trying to find possiblity of where my grandparents married (in church) about 1900-1901 before they moved further uptown area of the 90-100St's by 1902. Found nothing in the NYC records when last there.

I'm trying to find RC churches that would have been available for residents in areas of E 60-65th St between East River and Park Ave....I have called St Patricks several times for help and hung up on without info...told to call some places and got no answers, Ive been looking for over 10 years, trying to find possiblity of where my grandparents married (in church) about 1900-1901 before they moved further uptown area of the 90-100St's by 1902. Found nothing in the NYC records when last there.

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Back on the taxes tonight. Grá   Cló an Druaidh / The Druid Press www.druidpress.com ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:00 AM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 **When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and snip excess text. Today's Topics:   1. Re: An interesting set of books (Patrick Casey)   2. Re: workhouse info ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:07:00 +0100 From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Unfortunately, the link I gave below to William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland on the Clare County Library site was neutered and rendered inoperative by the dreaded Rootsweb URL chopper. So to see the WS Mason texts go to http://tinyurl.com/6h8qjvy and look at Item 23 (they have been available on the Clare Library site since 4-Sep-2003). PAC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Casey Sent: 20 March 2011 20:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books See also http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/masons_1814/masons_index.ht m PAC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aggi-Rose Reddin Sent: 19 March 2011 23:34 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books Peter and all, I was able to find and download all 3 volumes on google books - thanks for bringing them to our attention: vol 1: http://tinyurl.com/5vy6atq vol. 2: http://tinyurl.com/693j6v2 vol 3: http://books.google.ca/books?id=cBgHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q &f=false AR At 06:59 PM 19/03/2011, you wrote: >William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland", ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:25:22 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] workhouse info To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I think it varied from one workhouse to another. I learned the records for the workhouse near my Galway ancestors were in the Galway County Library but didn't include names of people who stayed there. You might try the Clare and Cork county libraries for starters. Diane ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 ****************************************

Unfortunately, the link I gave below to William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland on the Clare County Library site was neutered and rendered inoperative by the dreaded Rootsweb URL chopper. So to see the WS Mason texts go to http://tinyurl.com/6h8qjvy and look at Item 23 (they have been available on the Clare Library site since 4-Sep-2003). PAC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Casey Sent: 20 March 2011 20:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books See also http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/masons_1814/masons_index.ht m PAC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aggi-Rose Reddin Sent: 19 March 2011 23:34 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books Peter and all, I was able to find and download all 3 volumes on google books - thanks for bringing them to our attention: vol 1: http://tinyurl.com/5vy6atq vol. 2: http://tinyurl.com/693j6v2 vol 3: http://books.google.ca/books?id=cBgHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q &f=false AR At 06:59 PM 19/03/2011, you wrote: >William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland", ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Larry, I think last time I looked was before 1911 became available. But I looked yesterday and in 1911 there was another Sullivan family in Ballard Rd that I didn't recognise. The head was too old to be a son of James, and almost too young to be a brother. I was hoping somebody might have James' brothers etc and could bridge the gap. I'll have to go back and see if there were two families in Ballard Rd in 1901. I'll also have to look at 1911 and see if I can trace any of the descendants of James. Peter

I think it varied from one workhouse to another. I learned the records for the workhouse near my Galway ancestors were in the Galway County Library but didn't include names of people who stayed there. You might try the Clare and Cork county libraries for starters. Diane

Larry, Thanks for that. What data I have must be taken from the same book. I was just looking at Ballard Rd, Milltown Malbay. I had found James and Mary in 1901 census at that address with some of their children. But they look to die before 1911. I was kind of hoping that I might find some current day descendants, or some records that would get me back to the origins of James & Mary. Peter

Are there any lists/records of those who had to stay at the workhouses and the times they would have been there? I am particularly interested in the names of any CARMODY in Clare and Cork from 1820-1870. Since I have not found my Carmody family or any information on them, only knowing my Carmody's started out in Clare and lived in Cork at least from 1825-1870 before immigrating to Middlesex England. I have only a possibility of Carmody kin in Kilbrin area, Cork.

Any hints or links to these families will be very much appreciated. Bridget Ryan was born somewhere in Clare about 1839 to Patrick Ryan and Ellen Martin. Bridget came to Victoria where she married Samuel Platt in 1860 and had nine children including Samuel Platt Jnr b1863. James Sullivan married Mary O'Brien in 1864 at Miltown Malbay, where they had 10 children. The eldest daughter Bridget Sullivan b1866 migrated to Victoria where she married the above Samuel Platt Jnr. I have most of the Australian descendants of the above, but would appreciate any help with Clare origins or siblings that stayed in Ireland. Peter in Sydney

Who lived in the house in 1911 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My Clare Brickwalls - Bridget Ryan b1839,James Sullivan b1838, Mary O'Brien c1840 > Larry, > > Thanks for that. What data I have must be taken from the same book. > > I was just looking at Ballard Rd, Milltown Malbay. I had found James > and > Mary in 1901 census at that address with some of their children. But they > look to die before 1911. > > I was kind of hoping that I might find some current day descendants, or > some records that would get me back to the origins of James & Mary. > > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter: The wall falls: >From the previous book mentioned: Page 137: James Sullivan b. 1839, weaver, married Mary O' Brien. They had four sons: Thomas b. 1866, John who died in infancy, John b. 1871 who was a postman and Patrick. They had six daughters, Brid, a linen weaver, Mary, Ann, Margaret, Catherine and Ellen b.1889. John (jack) Sullivan listed above married Sissy O' Gorman, Flag road. They had four sons: John, Patrick who played football with Club and County, Jimmy (below in photo in Book) and Alphonsus. They had two daughters: Chrissie and Mary who both died in their 20's on retiring from the USA. Jimmy Sullivan married Cathleen Lennon from County Louth and had two sons: John - who had a good singing voice - and Jimmy. They had one daughter, Mary Carmel. Jimmy was a postman who known to have flashes of flamboyance on the football field. Paddy Gorman of the Terrace who claimed descent from the O'Gorman Mahon married Jimmy's aunt. The family lived at Ballard Road formerly called Inagh Road because of its alternative route to Inagh. Regards, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] My Clare Brickwalls - Bridget Ryan b1839,James Sullivan b1838, Mary O'Brien c1840 > Any hints or links to these families will be very much appreciated. > > Bridget Ryan was born somewhere in Clare about 1839 to Patrick Ryan and > Ellen Martin. Bridget came to Victoria where she married Samuel Platt in > 1860 and had nine children including Samuel Platt Jnr b1863. > > James Sullivan married Mary O'Brien in 1864 at Miltown Malbay, where > they had 10 children. The eldest daughter Bridget Sullivan b1866 migrated > to > Victoria where she married the above Samuel Platt Jnr. > > I have most of the Australian descendants of the above, but would > appreciate any help with Clare origins or siblings that stayed in Ireland. > > Peter in Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, For people interested in Genealogy in Miltown Malbay can I recommend the book: Miltown Malbay and Faith by Done Garrihy. ISBN 1-906027-25-0 You can e.mail the writer at: [email protected] Regards, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] My Clare Brickwalls - Bridget Ryan b1839,James Sullivan b1838, Mary O'Brien c1840 > Any hints or links to these families will be very much appreciated. > > Bridget Ryan was born somewhere in Clare about 1839 to Patrick Ryan and > Ellen Martin. Bridget came to Victoria where she married Samuel Platt in > 1860 and had nine children including Samuel Platt Jnr b1863. > > James Sullivan married Mary O'Brien in 1864 at Miltown Malbay, where > they had 10 children. The eldest daughter Bridget Sullivan b1866 migrated > to > Victoria where she married the above Samuel Platt Jnr. > > I have most of the Australian descendants of the above, but would > appreciate any help with Clare origins or siblings that stayed in Ireland. > > Peter in Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

See AR's posting 20 March 2011 The link she gave to Vol 3 is :- http://books.google.ca/books?id=cBgHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books > In a message dated 3/19/2011 6:12:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > >> An interesting set of books >> > Peter > Actually I found Vol 1 and 2 on Google books. Have not found Vol 3 yet but > it surely is out there somewhere. > Douglas Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1108 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks AR for those links to the 3 volumes Once you download you can convert the book to PDF and save it. If you save the download you only save the link. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aggi-Rose Reddin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books > Peter and all, > I was able to find and download all 3 volumes on google books - > thanks for bringing them to our attention: > vol 1: http://tinyurl.com/5vy6atq > > vol. 2: http://tinyurl.com/693j6v2 > > vol 3: > http://books.google.ca/books?id=cBgHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false > > AR > > At 06:59 PM 19/03/2011, you wrote: >>William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of >>Ireland", > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1108 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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About the book on Google.Books - you can change the page to text - see under the blue title bar - to the right "Plain text" - click and it turns it into plain text - pretty accurate but check it to be sure. Then you can copy and paste into another page for your own distribution. Select the beginning of the text you want to copy and place the cursor here, scroll down highlighting the text then strike CTRL and C (this copies all the highlighted text) and then on your own blank page place the cursor and then strike CTRL and V. It should copy into your page. Also you can search these - see search box to the left. Makes it much much easier. Fran MacPhail --- On Sun, 3/20/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 55 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 4:53 PM > > > **When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and > snip excess text. > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: An interesting set of books (Teri > Rehurek) >    2. Re: An interesting set of books > (Nicola Jennings) >    3. Re: An interesting set of books ([email protected]) >    4. Re: An interesting set of books > (Patrick Casey) >    5. Re: An interesting set of books (Teri > Rehurek) >    6. Re: An interesting set of books ([email protected]) >    7. Seeking Mary Littleton 1800-1830 > (Brian G Smith) >    8. Re: An interesting set of books (Brian > G Smith) >    9. Re: An interesting set of books (Brian > G Smith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >

See also http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/masons_1814/masons_index.ht m PAC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aggi-Rose Reddin Sent: 19 March 2011 23:34 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] An interesting set of books Peter and all, I was able to find and download all 3 volumes on google books - thanks for bringing them to our attention: vol 1: http://tinyurl.com/5vy6atq vol. 2: http://tinyurl.com/693j6v2 vol 3: http://books.google.ca/books?id=cBgHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q &f=false AR At 06:59 PM 19/03/2011, you wrote: >William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland", ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 3/19/2011 6:12:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > An interesting set of books > Peter Actually I found Vol 1 and 2 on Google books. Have not found Vol 3 yet but it surely is out there somewhere. Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL