A Chairde, With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to gaining access to further information. Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number of occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre without success. Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an alternative method. Is mise, Larry.

Here is the Main Family History Center BUT the number is a USA toll free number, so do not know if it will work in Ireland.  Maybe you have to use a different set of front numbers.   1/ 866/ 406-1830   Alanna

Larry, the Santa Monica LDS Temple, CA is somewhat near me.  This is Sun out here and of course it is closed.  Monday they are closed. I have a family member who is ill and that comes first.  I am not LDS!  I will try to contact the Family History Center on Tues and if I have permission, I will try to call them and read them your post.  If you would like to add more information to your post below, that is fine.   The Family History Center [think that is the name] is not the Temple itself.  It is a different building and section.  This one is one of the biggest collections and is suppose to have one of the best Irish sections.  It is far from me and one has to drive through terrible traffic to get there.   The web site Ancestry.com may even be owned by the LDS, if not, it is very connected.  The original PAF computer program was set up by the LDS so that their members did not have to spend a lot of money to set up their family trees.   If I find their phone number before Tues, I will send it to you privately.   Alanna --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Larry Brennan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Church Of Laterday Saints Access to Films. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:46 AM A Chairde, With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to gaining access to further information. Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number of occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre without success. Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an alternative method. Is mise, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recall you can fill out a form with all the details for a record (like a certificate number etc) and they will copy that precise record for you. I would do that if I needed many certificates and it would cost perhaps 2.00 a copy. I just found the form, yippee -------> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/RG/images/FReqMicrofilm.pdf This is the best kept secret of the Morman's! It's really cheap. It looks like they service outside the US as well. This works if you have precise information that you found in the library catalog. They won't search for you but they will make copies of pages for you. Know what I mean? Good luck! (that seems the answer to your prayers there, Larry.) Liz On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > A Chairde, > > With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints > have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to > gaining access to further information. > > Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further > information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number > of > occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre > without > success. > > Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an > alternative method. > > Is mise, > > > Larry. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello list I and at least 5 other Spearin and variant spellings of the surname are researching our family tree. We are researchers from Dublin and Limerick Ireland and NJ US, NSW Australia, Ontaria Canada. We have started a surname project and all who are researching this name are welcome to join us. You can meet us here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spearin/Index.html Our branch of the family started in Limerick but probably arrived in Limerick Ireland from London England. We would be very glad to meet other Spearins who are researching family. We also have a rootsweb mailing list under the Spearin surname

The Manse: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/library/local-studies/locstudi1.htm http://www.clarelibrary.ie/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alanna L Scanlon" <[email protected]> To: "IRL-CLARE" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] SULLIVAN - from CLARE to SYDNEY c1870 What is "the Manse in Ennis"? What kind of records do they have? I think I called some place in Ennis when I needed my father's BC in order to obtain my Irish Passport. That was so many years ago now. Thanks. --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: Peter, Clare Library also have these records at the Manse in Ennis. Regards, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3633 - Release Date: 05/12/11 06:34:00

What is "the Manse in Ennis"?   What kind of records do they have?   I think I called some place in Ennis when I needed my father's BC in order to obtain my Irish Passport.  That was so many years ago now.   Thanks. --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:   Peter, Clare Library also have these records at the Manse in Ennis. Regards, Larry.

Diane, Thanks for the detailed reply. Do you know if records at the National Library are available to the public or you have to use a researcher? Also, is the Clare Heritage Centre part of Clare Library? I'll try and Google the answers. Peter

Peter, Clare Library also have these records at the Manse in Ennis. Regards, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] SULLIVAN - from CLARE to SYDNEY c1870 > Diane, > > Thanks for the detailed reply. > > Do you know if records at the National Library are available to the > public or you have to use a researcher? > > Also, is the Clare Heritage Centre part of Clare Library? > > I'll try and Google the answers. > > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if anyone has Sullivan ancestors who migrated from Clare to Sydney c1865-1885. Bridget Sullivan was born 1866 in Milltown Malbay, Clare to James Sullivan b1838 & Mary O'Brien b1846. She was an Assisted Immigrant to Sydney in 1885 aboard Gulf of Venice. Shipping papers note she had an uncle in Sydney. Now the uncle could be a Sullivan or an O'Brien or even a husband of a sister to either. Unfortunately, I don't have any siblings to James and Mary. All I know was that James' father was Thomas Sullivan and Mary's father was Michael O'Brien. Can anyone help please. Peter Booth

The public can use the National Library in person. They won't do research for you, but they do have a list of researchers on their Web site. The Clare Heritage Centre is not part of the Clare Library. You can learn more about both by Googling. Diane

Milltown Malby RC records have been filmed from 1831 to 1880 and are held by the National Library of Ireland in Dublin, might show the baptisms of James and Mary and their siblings, as well as the marriages of some siblings. (Clare Heritage Center appears to have baptisms only.) Not filmed by the LDS, so you'd have to pay a Dublin researcher to search for you. Diane

Thanks to Peter Beirne of Clare County Library who pointed out to me a note contained on a reel of Church Marriage Records that resulting from a meeting of Bishops in Thurles on the 21st May 1855 all future Marriages are to take place in the Local Church.

Friends, We have been asked to assist with the following request: You will be able to see from the attached that Ann has exhausted all know sources and her research sources are a guide to others seeking similar photo's. REQUEST: I am contacting you in the hope that you may help me in acquiring a photo of Dangan House in Quin. Olivia and Clara Creagh were the last landlords to live there, Olivia died in 1947 at Ennis. I have checked with The National Library, The National Archives, The land Commission who dealth with the sale of the estate in the 1920's and the Solicitors in Dublin who were the Creagh Solicitors but to no avail. Hugh Weir the Author of "The Houses of Clare Book" does not have a photo of the house. I have also checked with Clare Local Studies Library. Unfortunately I was unable to get a photo of Dangan House. My father Paddy Lawlor's family were tenants on the estate and this is why I would like to see a photo of the house. The House was demolished in 1948. I was wondering if anyone would have a photo of the house. I have checked with all the neighbours in the Dangan area and no one seems to have a photo of the House. I work as a Branch Librarian at Tulla Library, in Tulla and have a big interest in local history in the Quin and Tulla area. Many thanks. Ann McNamara Any help or guidance would be appreciated: Larry Brennan.

I have just learned of the Ireland Genealogy website. (Nothing to do with IGP) The website contains the results of pension applications. If a person was applying for a pension, they had to supply information from the 1841 or 1851 census to prove they were alive then. The census records were still in existence at that time of the requests for a pension. This website will let you search (for free) for a person who might have been old enough to apply for a pension. If you find someone it is 2 pounds to look. About $3.40 In theory the parents names would be given. So, a way to try and access those missing census records. http://www.ireland-genealogy.com/ I just wanted to let you know. It might help. Christina again not affiliated with this site

Ann and Larry, I don't have a photo but would be interested in finding connections with other tenants and even more about the Creaghs. The St. Johns in the early 1800s were tenants there.My gr-gr-grandfather Michael St. John from Quin Clooney (Dangan) married Mary (Mc)_Carty from Tulla in 1830 in the Parish of Tulla. He and some brothers worked on Creagh estate until they moved to Newmarket-on-Fergus in 1835-6. There my gr. grandfather John was baptized in 1843. Sponsors were Michael Dillon and Mary St. John (Moloney) Two or three St. John brothers then moved in 1844/45 to Kilmaley Parish, Town of Booltaigh. I was wondering whether Creaghs had land there also. They emigrated to England sometime in the late 40s or early 50s and from there in 1867? my gr grandfather and his new wife Margaret( McTeague) sailed from Liverpool to the U.S. although I can find no ship record. There was also a William St. John who owned land in Inagh, Townland of Bauntlieve--appears on Griffith Valuation (1855) The old house was still there but in disrepair--no occupants since 1990. Not sure of the connection with my family but descendants of William's family live now in Miltown Malbay. There were other families of St! . John in Cratloe (No. of Limerick) and Kilrush and Flagmount. No further record of them. Of course a Thomas St. John had land near Bunratty in the 1700s maybe connected also with McNamaras and Stackpooles. Maybe Creaghs knew them also and who knows maybe they fell on hard times and my Michael and brothers ended up on Creagh land at Dangan as tenants. Mysteries. Anyway I would appreciate any further info. anyone has. Thanks, Donald Patrick St. John ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Brennan [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Dangan House Quin Friends, We have been asked to assist with the following request: You will be able to see from the attached that Ann has exhausted all know sources and her research sources are a guide to others seeking similar photo's. REQUEST: I am contacting you in the hope that you may help me in acquiring a photo of Dangan House in Quin. Olivia and Clara Creagh were the last landlords to live there, Olivia died in 1947 at Ennis. I have checked with The National Library, The National Archives, The land Commission who dealth with the sale of the estate in the 1920's and the Solicitors in Dublin who were the Creagh Solicitors but to no avail. Hugh Weir the Author of "The Houses of Clare Book" does not have a photo of the house. I have also checked with Clare Local Studies Library. Unfortunately I was unable to get a photo of Dangan House. My father Paddy Lawlor's family were tenants on the estate and this is why I would like to see a photo of the house. The House was demolished in 1948. I was wondering if anyone would have a photo of the house. I have checked with all the neighbours in the Dangan area and no one seems to have a photo of the House. I work as a Branch Librarian at Tulla Library, in Tulla and have a big interest in local history in the Quin and Tulla area. Many thanks. Ann McNamara Any help or guidance would be appreciated: Larry Brennan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will look it over. I think a picture is on its way.. I have not got it yet. but they are looking. Mike and Nora Joyce were rancher in the valley I was raised. The family do not own it anymore. My aunt Marie Joyce married my Dad's brother Walter Buckingham. My dad and Walter were full blood Englishmen and of course aunt Marie was a full blood Irishman. Buckinghams were all ranchers in the same valley. aunt Marie was only 16 when she married my Uncle Walter. they had three wonderful children that all became ranchers in the valley. I was very close to my cousins. Virginia and Wayne still live in the town. Wallace moved to Billlings. they are all very nice and wonderful people. Virginia is 82 years old and does not look it. that is the Irish blood that did that. You are a second cousin to Virginia, Wallace and Wayne.. Your father was a first cousin to Marie, Francis, Walter rand Honor Lucy. And then of course Patrick J. and Honor were brother and sister. Barbara -------------------------------------------------- From: "Christina Finn Hunt" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:54 AM To: "irl-clare" <[email protected]>; "irl-limerick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "IRL-TIPPERARY" <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Ireland Genealogy formerly pensear.ogr > I have just learned of the Ireland Genealogy website. (Nothing to do with > IGP) > The website contains the results of pension applications. If a person was > applying for a pension, they had to supply information from the 1841 or > 1851 > census to prove they were alive then. The census records were still in > existence > at that time of the requests for a pension. > > This website will let you search (for free) for a person who might have > been old > enough to apply for a pension. If you find someone it is 2 pounds to look. > About > $3.40 > In theory the parents names would be given. So, a way to try and access > those > missing census records. > http://www.ireland-genealogy.com/ > > I just wanted to let you know. It might help. > > Christina > again not affiliated with this site > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Larry, The nearest I can get is a death registered at Birmingham in Sep-Dec qtr 1970 (Vol 9c Page 266) of James Patrick Birmingham given birth date 27/2/1924. You would need to purchase the death certificate from GRO quoting above references to get any further details (if they were known to the informant). Peter Booth (Sydney)

Thanks Peter. I will hold tough to see will some of our English contributors add to the request. I would expect very little response today based on the happy occasion taking place in Westminster. Regards, Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Clare Man need help in England-JamesReddanBirmingham > Larry, > > The nearest I can get is a death registered at Birmingham in Sep-Dec > qtr > 1970 (Vol 9c Page 266) of James Patrick Birmingham given birth date > 27/2/1924. > > You would need to purchase the death certificate from GRO quoting above > references to get any further details (if they were known to the > informant). > > Peter Booth (Sydney) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Friends, We have received a request from one of our very strong Clare Roots members for help with regard to James Reddan death details. James Reddan, born in Ireland 1922, died in Birmingham, either in Sparkhill or Sparkbrook, brought back to Ireland 15th Oct 1970. Any help or guidance would be appreciated: Thanking you in advance. Larry.