I would like to add to this about Priests. Four years ago I visited a Priest in Abbeyfeale and asked his opinion about which parishes in Kerry I should visit to find the marriage of my kin, whose children were Christened there in Abbeyfeale. The marriage was not in Limerick. The Priest took his time to advise me on where I should go. We went into Kerry and visited all those Priests in those parishes and each of them kindly went to their record books and the marriage was not there. I also left 5 Euros with each one. Turns out the marriage showed up on Kerry online records as being in Ballybunion, and now I am coming back to Ireland in 2 months to visit Kerry and Clare, where the groom was "from." All this discussion about records and where they are held has been so helpful to me in lieu of my my trip. Thank you ! Barbara L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> To: "IRL-CLARE-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Catholic Sacramental Records in Ireland I agree with Diane. The Parish Priests and their staffs are not genealogists. As in the USA, there is a shortage of priests in Ireland. Considering the the huge numbers in the million + who emigrated D/T Famine and previously for various reasons, there now descendants who have more than probably quadrupled the original emigrants are seeking their roots, especially in prime tourist season. Over the years, we have made appointments at particular parishes in advance. Some will allow us actually to look at the books if we have an approx. year & other pertinent data. Others, request we write down the information and they will look/copy and mail to us. We leave a donation, about 5 Euros per request to cover postage and their time. Pre 1864 records are iffy at best even if they do exist. Your response may be a while in coming; several months on occasion. I have never not received some type of response, even if it is to say that my ancestors have no record in a particular parish. However, one must be patient, very patient. The LDS records are a great inexpensive way do research, if one is lucky to live near one and able to access it. I received from another website, the announcement a few weeks back, that a group of Irish from various counties, are enlisting other people from a particular county who are interested in tracking emigrants from their families who went out in the 18, 19 20 centuries. I can't remember for sure, but the county that this project is starting is either Clare or Galway. Eventually all counties will have such an organization. This would be such a great assist to the descendants of emigrants and the families of those left behind. A true fount of data for all. Will look up the article to get the particulars and put on the various root web boards, I subscribe. Mary Ellen Chambers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No those records do not belong to us.  The papers concerning our ancestors were done by our ancestors as members of an organization.  I grew up in a Catholic atmosphere and understand a lot that people who did not do not understand.  The priests here in the States were not as strict and did not have the power as they had in Ireland.  Times have changed the view of priests here and in Ireland, I think.   Yes, I understand the time and effort it takes to deal with people in different fields, as I have been there.  But holding things and not letting anyone see them can be a form of power.   Just recently, I with my limited knowledge and resources was trying to help a friend find some family.  But the person did not want to give me some information about the family in order to help her for Free.  I became tired of asking and there was nothing that I could in any way with the information for my self.  So, I gave up.  I have a lot of knowledge of a certain breed of dog and the training of that breed in many activities.  I do not breed.  But I become tired of trying to teach novices in those two areas.  So on one hand I am not happy with the holding of information that we ourselves do not own and yet understand the fools that demand time and effort to look at the documents and maybe destroy them.   I hope that I have made myself understood.  I want these records available to us in the best way possible.  If there are any scandals, the people should be long dead.   Alanna --- On Mon, 5/16/11, cathy carley <[email protected]> wrote: From: cathy carley <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] re church records To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:03 PM GDAY all:) Following on from Conversation in here re LDS films, I think we have EVERY RIGHT to be able to Look at Catholic Registers Re our ancestors born in Ireland And if some Catholic Priests are stubborn and Pig Headed re them, then I think thats Terrible.. They are our Ancestors and we have a right to look at these registers that some are denied us.IF of course they available,.or u have to pay mega amounts to view them, its crazy regards cathy:) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just received a post that was also sent to Larry.  I see that one must sign some kind of agreement.  That agreement may be a problem to the extent to make the connection impossible.  I do not know.  It has to be left up to Larry and the Library.   I have done what I could, it is now the "agreement" that has to be considered.  The agreement as I said above may make it impossible to go forward.   I am now out of the situation.  I have not read the agreement.  Even if I did, I am an American and have no knowledge of the rules and regulations and situation in Clare, Ireland.   Alanna  

      I agree with Diane.  The Parish Priests and their staffs are not genealogists.  As in the USA, there is a shortage of priests in Ireland.  Considering the the huge numbers in the million + who emigrated D/T Famine and previously for various reasons, there now descendants who have more than probably quadrupled the original emigrants are seeking their roots, especially in prime tourist season.       Over the years, we have made appointments at particular parishes in advance.  Some will allow us actually to look at the books if we have an approx. year & other pertinent data.  Others, request we write down the information and they will look/copy and mail to us.  We leave a donation, about 5 Euros per request to cover postage and their time.       Pre 1864 records are iffy at best even if they do exist.  Your response may be a while in coming; several months on occasion.  I have never not received some type of response, even if it is to say that my ancestors have no record in a particular parish.  However, one must be patient, very patient.       The LDS records are a great inexpensive way do research, if one is lucky to live near one and able to access it.       I received from another website, the announcement a few weeks back, that a group of Irish from various counties, are enlisting other people from a particular county who are interested in tracking emigrants from their families who went out in the 18, 19 20 centuries.  I can't remember for sure, but the county that this project is starting is either Clare or Galway.  Eventually all counties will have such an organization.  This would be such a great assist to the descendants of emigrants and the families of those left behind.  A true fount of data for all. Will look up the article to get the particulars and put on the various root web boards, I subscribe.   Mary Ellen Chambers

I actually think in many cases when the records were digitized Priests were told they did not need to handle these requests anymore. That XYZ Heritage centre would handle requests. And you can imagine that those books can't be used over and over without destroying them. I am always amused when a Rosie O'Donnell or someone is doing Who Do You Think You Are and they pull out the actual books. Christina > Attending to the spiritual needs of their parishioners is an > enormous job for most Irish priests, leaving little time to answer > genealogy requests. Catholic bishops decide whether or not their > dioceses' films should be made generally available. (They're not > public documents.) There are a couple of bishops who have held out.

Re the comments about "stubborn and pig headed" priests not letting us look at Catholic registers, a few points: As I noted earlier, most were filmed in the 1950s and are widely available. Whenever I've visited a church in Ireland, I've always been allowed to look at the records, but it helps to be polite. Attending to the spiritual needs of their parishioners is an enormous job for most Irish priests, leaving little time to answer genealogy requests. Catholic bishops decide whether or not their dioceses' films should be made generally available. (They're not public documents.) There are a couple of bishops who have held out. The best way to encourage them to keep holding out is to write nasty things about priests on mailing lists. Diane

And if I may put in a plug here...if you do have a record of your ancestor or one you got by mistake, share it online. Otherwise people pay over and over for the same record. Submission forms: http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ :) Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > They are our Ancestors and we have a right to look at these > registers that some are denied us.IF of course they available,.or u > have to pay mega amounts to view them, its crazy > regards > cathy:)

I used the Clare Heritage Center once, early on, and was not happy with the results. Other heritage centers much better. Found much more by looking through records myself in Dublin. Diane

Here's a link to the Irish Times that will help people wondering about the status of various parish records: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/index.htm Just click on the county and then the parish. Shows filmed Kilkee records held by the Clare Heritage Center, LDS, and National Library in Ireland. (Records were filmed in the 1950s so parish staff wouldn't be inundated with genealogy requests.) Diane

Hello Allana Well done!! You are a treasure! Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alanna L Scanlon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] OK!!! Here we go Larry!!! And he is probably blushing also. That is why he is not replying, I'll bet. I am so glad that the LDS was able to film them or most of them!!!!! Back some time ago, I heard so much about not allowing people to see them and not because of time or care of the paper. And it did not help that the people asking to see them were not Catholic. Maybe the priests have become more modern. Yes, I do have an attitude about that. I have a lot of information about my family compared to other families and yet I know so very little. And no one knows either. I was very grateful that the graveyard stones were copied!!!! My father said that an uncle named John, he understood, had traveled back and forth from Ireland to the US. Lo, there is a stone set by my grandfather and his sister whom I did met when I was a child and did not know who she was stating that here was their brother John. He died very young and how could he have traveled so much when his life was so short???? I do not drink and have never taken a drop, but let's raise our hands and cheer that "we" will now have an even better library!!!! Maybe The Library can hold copies of all the different parish information from ALL the parishes. Then when other libraries get up and running they can have their own set. Alanna --- On Mon, 5/16/11, Liz Haren <[email protected]> wrote: From: Liz Haren <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] OK!!! Here we go Larry!!! To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 5:42 PM Alanna, that was a very nice thing you did and will be a great benefit to the people of Clare. All Larry's good karma is coming back to him. I bet Larry is grinning ear to ear. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Alanna L Scanlon <[email protected]>wrote: > I said that I'd help out Larry and his need of information. He has helped > me in some things and now it is my time for pay back. > > I called the phone number I gave you Larry and spent a lot of time > obtaining information for you. You will be sent by email, I did give out > your addy, all the information you will need to receive the films. You > will > need to get the Library set up to receive and send back the films. > > The only locations at this time are in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford. > If you can set this up, you will now have a location in Clare. > > I was given a case number for the information that I gave and you will > receive. But you will not need my case number. I will be sent a copy of > the information you will be sent just in case. > > My kin will not help me in my own search, but Larry has been helpful. So, > I have done this to help not only Larry but all of you in your search and > others in the future. > > Best wishes. > > Alanna > > --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Larry Brennan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Church Of Laterday Saints Access to Films. > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:46 AM > > > A Chairde, > > With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints > have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to > gaining access to further information. > > Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further > information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number > of > occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre > without > success. > > Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an > alternative method. > > Is mise, > > > Larry. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah yes!! We too only have sketchy information about great grandfather William Francis Quinn who came from Clare in 1868 at age 6. We can find nothing about him until he married in North Andover Mass in 1884. His parents were Henry and Annie Melia Quinn. My mother used to say they were from Cork although my siblings claim that it was corrected to be Clare... Maybe the Ennis area. Of course all the census and other records say only Ireland... Faye Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Lewis Pat <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:40:12 To: CLARE IRL IRL<[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CLARE] I wish I had a Alana.... I started the genealogy of my family shortly before my Father died in 1966, unfortunately he knew little of his Carmody family, I guess from what hi Father had told him. All he actualy knew was the Carmody's came from Clare, but no location. I managed to finally find my grandfather's place of birth on British census, DENIS Carmodyand found his parents, Denis and Johanna Carmody saying his Father was born in Cork, 1825, Mother in 1826,Cork, but no maiden name for her, of course you know that is little info to go on. This was back around 1999, after trying to find some info over 30 years, I "finaly had that, and thought it would be easy from there.HAH! I am still looking for where in Cork, have written to churches and got either no response or names of other than the name I am looking for, which is Carmody,Carmoody,,Karmody,Kermedy, depending on who is checking and how it sounds to them, I guess. I have a friend, in Kanturk, who has asked the RC church for info several times even after I wrote with donation and got no answer. She has been given the run around by the ladies who answer the phone in RC church of Kilbrin,more than 6 times, priest not available, leave a message, or told no records available there. She has even driven up from her home, to find the office closed. I am trying basically to find the info on Carmody family, who did have a young man Patrick Carmody born and baptised the in about 1845, which I also tried to get the info about, as I suspect he may be a cousin,or uncle of my Denis Carmody, who would be my great grandfather. ( I hope someone understands this) I suspect after much searching of Griffiths and the tithes papers that the orignal Carmodys' who wound up in Cork for work , came possibly from Tulla, Kilkee, or Kilrush, maybe even Ennis.since they do hav a main street named Carmody. Since Griffiths and the Tithes books do have Carmody' s in that locations how would I find th families or those listed? A researcher I hired 10 years ago has had no luck either. Suggestions appreciated. I did manage to get copies of phone books for both Clare and Cork and wrote each Carmody a letter , got three answers out of hundreds sent, with no matches, have joined sites and genealogy sites even Ancestry for awhile and No match to my family at all. Thank you for reading! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GDAY all:) Following on from Conversation in here re LDS films, I think we have EVERY RIGHT to be able to Look at Catholic Registers Re our ancestors born in Ireland And if some Catholic Priests are stubborn and Pig Headed re them, then I think thats Terrible.. They are our Ancestors and we have a right to look at these registers that some are denied us.IF of course they available,.or u have to pay mega amounts to view them, its crazy regards cathy:)

Is the Kilkee Parish still in existence? I've been emailing them but haven't received a response for over one year. Thanks

Was the son Denis born in England or Ireland? And when was he born? That could make a difference in the advice we could offer. In a message dated 5/16/2011 8:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I started the genealogy of my family shortly before my Father died in 1966, unfortunately he knew little of his Carmody family, I guess from what hi Father had told him. All he actualy knew was the Carmody's came from Clare, but no location. I managed to finally find my grandfather's place of birth on British census, DENIS Carmodyand found his parents, Denis and Johanna Carmody saying his Father was born in Cork, 1825, Mother in 1826,Cork, but no maiden name for her, of course you know that is little info to go on. This was back around 1999, after trying to find some info over 30 years, I "finaly had that, and thought it would be easy from there.HAH! I am still looking for where in Cork, have written to churches and got either no response or names of other than the name I am looking for, which is Carmody,Carmoody,,Karmody,Kermedy, depending on who is checking and how it sounds to them, I guess. I have a friend, in Kanturk, who has asked the RC church for info several times even after I wrote with donation and got no answer. She has been given the run around by the ladies who answer the phone in RC church of Kilbrin,more than 6 times, priest not available, leave a message, or told no records available there. She has even driven up from her home, to find the office closed. I am trying basically to find the info on Carmody family, who did have a young man Patrick Carmody born and baptised the in about 1845, which I also tried to get the info about, as I suspect he may be a cousin,or uncle of my Denis Carmody, who would be my great grandfather. ( I hope someone understands this) I suspect after much searching of Griffiths and the tithes papers that the orignal Carmodys' who wound up in Cork for work , came possibly from Tulla, Kilkee, or Kilrush, maybe even Ennis.since they do hav a main street named Carmody. Since Griffiths and the Tithes books do have Carmody' s in that locations how would I find th families or those listed? A researcher I hired 10 years ago has had no luck either. Suggestions appreciated. I did manage to get copies of phone books for both Clare and Cork and wrote each Carmody a letter , got three answers out of hundreds sent, with no matches, have joined sites and genealogy sites even Ancestry for awhile and No match to my family at all. Thank you for reading! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I started the genealogy of my family shortly before my Father died in 1966, unfortunately he knew little of his Carmody family, I guess from what hi Father had told him. All he actualy knew was the Carmody's came from Clare, but no location. I managed to finally find my grandfather's place of birth on British census, DENIS Carmodyand found his parents, Denis and Johanna Carmody saying his Father was born in Cork, 1825, Mother in 1826,Cork, but no maiden name for her, of course you know that is little info to go on. This was back around 1999, after trying to find some info over 30 years, I "finaly had that, and thought it would be easy from there.HAH! I am still looking for where in Cork, have written to churches and got either no response or names of other than the name I am looking for, which is Carmody,Carmoody,,Karmody,Kermedy, depending on who is checking and how it sounds to them, I guess. I have a friend, in Kanturk, who has asked the RC church for info several times even after I wrote with donation and got no answer. She has been given the run around by the ladies who answer the phone in RC church of Kilbrin,more than 6 times, priest not available, leave a message, or told no records available there. She has even driven up from her home, to find the office closed. I am trying basically to find the info on Carmody family, who did have a young man Patrick Carmody born and baptised the in about 1845, which I also tried to get the info about, as I suspect he may be a cousin,or uncle of my Denis Carmody, who would be my great grandfather. ( I hope someone understands this) I suspect after much searching of Griffiths and the tithes papers that the orignal Carmodys' who wound up in Cork for work , came possibly from Tulla, Kilkee, or Kilrush, maybe even Ennis.since they do hav a main street named Carmody. Since Griffiths and the Tithes books do have Carmody' s in that locations how would I find th families or those listed? A researcher I hired 10 years ago has had no luck either. Suggestions appreciated. I did manage to get copies of phone books for both Clare and Cork and wrote each Carmody a letter , got three answers out of hundreds sent, with no matches, have joined sites and genealogy sites even Ancestry for awhile and No match to my family at all. Thank you for reading!

Alanna, What can I say only thanks to you and others for your efforts. To be truthful I held off replying to the Board until I collated all the posting to the Board and direct to myself. With the family search org. a number of us here in Clare were wondering how could we follow through with the information. I have learned at first hand over the last two days how to maximise the benefits of the site. [email protected] .com has never let me down. This information I have got is great. I have also sent off a request to the GRO here in Roscommon requesting a search. I seem to be just caught between the 1901 Census & records prior to 1900 with my request. I did apply locally without success but with the Church & State records. I know the record is there it is only just to find it. Alanna,Barbara. Kate, Liz, have all be great. To those abroad as members of Clare Diaspora I will try to put together a guide for all based on what I have received. While I know my problem seem to be reaching conclusion I hope to make contact with Clare County Library to add another facility to their research. I understand the Limerick Mormon Centre which is about 24 miles away from me is only open two hours of a Friday Night. We are trying to get further information on it. Thanks, Larry. p.s. Alanna I will look forward to the post. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alanna L Scanlon To: Larry Brennan ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: OK!!! Here we go Larry!!! I said that I'd help out Larry and his need of information. He has helped me in some things and now it is my time for pay back. I called the phone number I gave you Larry and spent a lot of time obtaining information for you. You will be sent by email, I did give out your addy, all the information you will need to receive the films. You will need to get the Library set up to receive and send back the films. The only locations at this time are in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford. If you can set this up, you will now have a location in Clare. I was given a case number for the information that I gave and you will receive. But you will not need my case number. I will be sent a copy of the information you will be sent just in case. My kin will not help me in my own search, but Larry has been helpful. So, I have done this to help not only Larry but all of you in your search and others in the future. Best wishes. Alanna --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Larry Brennan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Church Of Latter-day Saints Access to Films. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:46 AM A Chairde, With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to gaining access to further information. Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number of occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre without success. Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an alternative method. Is mise, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alanna, What can I say only thanks to you and others for your efforts. To be truthful I held off replying to the Board until I collated all the posting to the Board and direct to myself. With the family search org. a number of us here in Clare were wondering how could we follow through with the information. I have learned at first hand over the last two days how to maximise the benefits of the site. [email protected] .com has never let me down. This information I have got is great. I have also sent off a request to the GRO here in Roscommon requesting a search. I seem to be just caught between the 1901 Census & records prior to 1900 with my request. I did apply locally without success but with the Church & State records. I know the record is there it is only just to find it. Alanna,Barbara. Kate, Liz, have all be great. To those abroad as members of Clare Diaspora I will try to put together a guide for all based on what I have received. While I know my problem seem to be reaching conclusion I hope to make contact with Clare County Library to add another facility to their research. I understand the Limerick Mormon Centre which is about 24 miles away from me is only open two hours of a Friday Night. We are trying to get further information on it. Thanks, Larry. p.s. Alanna I will look forward to the post. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alanna L Scanlon To: Larry Brennan ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: OK!!! Here we go Larry!!! I said that I'd help out Larry and his need of information. He has helped me in some things and now it is my time for pay back. I called the phone number I gave you Larry and spent a lot of time obtaining information for you. You will be sent by email, I did give out your addy, all the information you will need to receive the films. You will need to get the Library set up to receive and send back the films. The only locations at this time are in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford. If you can set this up, you will now have a location in Clare. I was given a case number for the information that I gave and you will receive. But you will not need my case number. I will be sent a copy of the information you will be sent just in case. My kin will not help me in my own search, but Larry has been helpful. So, I have done this to help not only Larry but all of you in your search and others in the future. Best wishes. Alanna --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Larry Brennan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Church Of Latter-day Saints Access to Films. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:46 AM A Chairde, With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to gaining access to further information. Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number of occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre without success. Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an alternative method. Is mise, Larry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Larry Here in Australia (Victoria) our local genealogy centre, nothing to do with LDS, has got permission to order films and have people view them here for 6 weeks. The LDS are also inclined at the moment to let out films on permanent loan, so you may be able to organise something through the Clare Library, since they're such a dynamic group. We have the Irish Civil Registration Films in our library on permanent loan. I think as they are putting more and more on their website there is less demand for the films. Good luck Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Vic Australia

Alanna, that was a very nice thing you did and will be a great benefit to the people of Clare. All Larry's good karma is coming back to him. I bet Larry is grinning ear to ear. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Alanna L Scanlon <[email protected]>wrote: > I said that I'd help out Larry and his need of information. He has helped > me in some things and now it is my time for pay back. > > I called the phone number I gave you Larry and spent a lot of time > obtaining information for you. You will be sent by email, I did give out > your addy, all the information you will need to receive the films. You will > need to get the Library set up to receive and send back the films. > > The only locations at this time are in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford. > If you can set this up, you will now have a location in Clare. > > I was given a case number for the information that I gave and you will > receive. But you will not need my case number. I will be sent a copy of > the information you will be sent just in case. > > My kin will not help me in my own search, but Larry has been helpful. So, > I have done this to help not only Larry but all of you in your search and > others in the future. > > Best wishes. > > Alanna > > --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Larry Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Larry Brennan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Church Of Laterday Saints Access to Films. > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:46 AM > > > A Chairde, > > With the improved search facilities that the Church Of Latter-day Saints > have made available can anybody advise us here in Clare with regard to > gaining access to further information. > > Personally I have pinpointed a records I would like to gain further > information on but we have no Mormon centre near us. We tried on a number > of > occasions to gain contact details with regard to the Limerick Centre > without > success. > > Would some one have direct access where we could pay or recommend an > alternative method. > > Is mise, > > > Larry. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In Elmira NY records are very few mentions of Carrigs but found one: A Francis Fitzpatrick son of Patrick Fitzpatrick and Mary CARRIG and Johanna (Jennie?) dau of Patrick Holloran and Mary McNAMARA mar May 21, 1890 St. Patrick’s.   Sharron Vossoughi Modesto CA ________________________________ From: Matthew Jude Barker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 4:51:03 PM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] CARRIGG-CARRIG-GLEESON Seek ancestry, desc. of DANIEL (?) CARRIG of Cloonamore, Clondegad Parish, Co. Clare, wife's name unknown, known children:  MICHAEL, THOMAS, WILLIAM (1786-1866), DANIEL (m. Alice Cunneen), & PATRICK (m. Catherine O'Brien). William resided Gortnamuck (Pigsfield/Pitfield), Clondegad, m. Anne "Nancy" and had DANIEL, m. MARY McMAHON; ANNE; MARGARET, m. JOHN QUIN (LaSalle, Illinois, 1854); WILLIAM (1830-?), m. ANNE COSTELLO, 1853, Maysville, KY, 4 children in Council Bluffs, Iowa; MARY (Elmira, NY, 1854), THOMAS (1834-1884), m. BRIDGET GLEESON, 8 children in Drumline Parish, Co. Clare, New Jersey, and New York, died New London, CT; ALICE, had son by NED McCORMICK; and PATRICK CARRIG. Any help appreciated. Thank-you. Matthew Jdue Barker ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message