You may be able to get a researcher in Dublin to get these in the National library in Kildare street. You can google 'Geneology research in Dublin' to get results. Maggie the Dub On 26 Jun 2011, at 21:48, Lewis Pat <[email protected]> wrote: Would anyone know the name of the RC church in Kilbrin Cork and where records would be., and the parish they would be in. I mislaid my address book and cannot find it at the moment. I had written some time back for records of Carmody family in that area, probably Kilbrin-Knockcollig and Liscarroll , from 1820-50,thinking my great grandparents met there and married. Seems when they did marry it was in 1857 in Middlesex,Eng. C of E church as no RC church in Uxbridge area for another 10 years. So maybe it was my ggg-grandparents then they moved on. I am tired of waiting for answers, 2 years now, since I wrote and sent donation, and have had no answers by phone, except these, "priest busy or out of area, not home, no one available to do research for births in 1825 for Denis Carmody, and last message sent records to another church, but not where." Despite donation sent. I am looking for record of DENIS CARMODY b. 1825, and any siblings PLUS his father PATRICK CARMODY b. approx.1790-1800. I know there is a Patrick Carmody from Kilbrin b. 1845, and he is related in some way, as cousin or nephew of my great grandfather. he arrived in same area of Middlesex years later. Also hoping there is a Patrick COURTNEY in same area and b. approx. 1800-30. He would be a father- in-law to my Uncle Patrick Thank you for reading and any help you cane impart. It's my last try before I wrap it all up. ====================================== Remember to stay on Topic. If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone know the name of the RC church in Kilbrin Cork and where records would be., and the parish they would be in. I mislaid my address book and cannot find it at the moment. I had written some time back for records of Carmody family in that area, probably Kilbrin-Knockcollig and Liscarroll , from 1820-50,thinking my great grandparents met there and married. Seems when they did marry it was in 1857 in Middlesex,Eng. C of E church as no RC church in Uxbridge area for another 10 years. So maybe it was my ggg-grandparents then they moved on. I am tired of waiting for answers, 2 years now, since I wrote and sent donation, and have had no answers by phone, except these, "priest busy or out of area, not home, no one available to do research for births in 1825 for Denis Carmody, and last message sent records to another church, but not where." Despite donation sent. I am looking for record of DENIS CARMODY b. 1825, and any siblings PLUS his father PATRICK CARMODY b. approx.1790-1800. I know there is a Patrick Carmody from Kilbrin b. 1845, and he is related in some way, as cousin or nephew of my great grandfather. he arrived in same area of Middlesex years later. Also hoping there is a Patrick COURTNEY in same area and b. approx. 1800-30. He would be a father- in-law to my Uncle Patrick Thank you for reading and any help you cane impart. It's my last try before I wrap it all up.

Hello All I have taken over the running of the Corbett One Name Study and, as my Corbett ancestors were from Miltown Malbay, I am focusing my Irish information gathering on Clare. The family were Catholics, consequently vital records are sparse in the 19th century and the Church was prevented, by law from keeping them, beforehand. These I am gathering up to this period. (Here in England I can go back another 150 years as Catholic records can be found included in the Anglican registers) Civil records seem to be an huge untapped resource and are rarely referred too, let alone used, as has been said. I come across them occasionally and in trawling them do make tiny steps back. The Ejectment Books seem to fall into this category and I expect that they contain a wealth of raw data that would benefit the hundreds of my Corbett researchers, and everyone with ancestors who rented property. I would like to see them made available as scanned images, preferably; even on a pay to view basis, as a facsimile say held at Ennis to be accessed and copied, or as a transcript. I am sure that there would be many transcribers, willing to volunteer. I know that I would. The arrangements I would currently need to make to access these books and spend time going through them are practically insurmountable. So, if some kind soul would like to help me, or suggest a work around, I would be grateful. Gordon Corbett Corbett One Name Study GOONS Reg. 1016

Re: unanswered correspondence Just a reminder, not a correction. When asking a question of any institution, person or archives, you are more likely to get an answer if you include a self addressed , Stamped envelope with your request. It will encourage the person reading your request to send a reply. Irish stamps can easily be obtained from any store that specializes in selling collectibles. On the other hand, I have found the Irish to be especially negligent in answering my letters. But have received some answers when the SASE is included. Worth a try.  Pat D     3. Baptism records (Margaret Doyle)    ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Changing direction of search back To: CLARE IRL IRL <[email protected]>,          Lack of cooperation of the RC church, despite calls and letters to the church there has not got me any documentation per se, in two years of asking.  To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] *****************************************

Seek desc. of DANIEL CARRIG & wife ALICE CUNNEEN of Cloonamore, Clondegad Parish, Co. Clare, known children Margaret (1834-1929) m. Daniel Donahue, died Ayer, MA; Mary; Anne; and Daniel, born 1848. Three daughters emigrated to Ayer, MA. Also interested in anyone with Carrigg/Carrig ancestry, as I am going to start compiling a CARRIGG newsletter. Thank-you. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > **REMEMBER...When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and snip > excess text. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: My McMahon family (Marg Watson) > 2. Re: missing "ejectment books" (Alanna L Scanlon) > 3. Re: My McMahon family (Rae & Greg Ryan) > 4. Fwd: Failure Notice (Lewis Pat) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:24:46 +1000 > From: "Marg Watson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > To: "Rae & Greg Ryan" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Rae, > Possibly she is related, but we will probably need to find the next > generation back in Ireland to connect them. Also, I have the Eaglehawk > Pioneers Register and although there are eight different Collins families, > Helen Collins isn't amongst them. Who were her parents? I might have > information re her extended family if they are in the Register. > > Marg. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rae & Greg Ryan > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > > Marg, > I can't help but wonder if my Helen Collins was somehow connected to your > Anne .Mine ended up also in the Eaglehawk /Bendigo area. > Rae. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg Watson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:45:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: Alanna L Scanlon <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] missing "ejectment books" > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, > ? > I have somewhat of the same problem. My Tadgh Scanlan might have been one > of the first evictees.? According to some information and I received from a > now deceased uncle, Tadgh may have come from another area into the Township > where the Scanlan's lived for many generations.? Current one do not care > about family history!!!!!? According to my father we were not related to the > other Scanlan/Scanlon's in the area except by marriage.? That marriage one I > have found and will not go further there, no interest for me. > ? > And I have found that my family used both the Scanlan and the Scanlon forms > of the name within the family!!!!! > ? > Alanna > > --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Lewis Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:13:13 +1000 > From: "Rae & Greg Ryan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Marg, > What year did Thomas & Hanora arrive. > Rae > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg Watson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > > > > Hello Peter, > > thanks for your helpful reply. > > Yes they did all end up in Victoria, in Eaglehawk near Bendigo. They are > > all > > buried in the Eaglehawk cemetery. Thomas and Hanora came via South > > Australia > > and my guess is they took advantage of the Assisted Immigration Scheme to > > South Australia as they stayed there the obligatory four years before > > coming > > to Victoria. I haven't yet cracked the arrival details of the others, > > although not for the effort of trying! One of the problems is that, > > probably > > because of illiteracy, they weren't sure of dates, ages etc, eg Patrick > > gave > > his age on his marriage certificate; his age at death should therefore be > > his marriage age plus the years he was married, but it isn't so. Possibly > > the priest who married him looked at him and guessed his age. This makes > > it > > impossible to check the immigration indexes and use age to determine if a > > particular Patrick McMahon is mine. > > I have a lot of detail of their descendants in Australia and would love > to > > take my McMahon line back further into Ireland. > > Thank you for the suggestion of the last one leaving Ireland after the > > death > > of the parents, that is something to consider. > > You asked about the Victorian immigration indexes - I believe the > original > > record of these is at the Public Records Office of Victoria (PROV) in > > North > > Melbourne. I find the digitised version on their website a bit annoying > as > > it really needs an Advanced Search option to speed up the sorting > process. > > Thank you again for replying Peter, and for your suggestions. I'll keep > > digging around and see what turns up. > > > > Best wishes, > > Marg. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter R Booth > > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:04 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================================== > > Remember to stay on Topic. > > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:09:12 -0400 > From: Lewis Pat <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fwd: Failure Notice > To: CLARE IRL IRL <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: June 20, 2011 3:56:54 PM EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Failure Notice > > > > Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. > > > > 252 > > > > All I can tell you is he had a daughter, Julia,census of 1861 says born = > > in Ireland, Ellen was her Mother's name also b. Ireland as was JOHN = > > Pyne. No county given on any census from 1861 on .Julia Pyne the = > > daughter married a Patrick Courtney in Middlesex in Jan. 1857, according > = > > to marriage info she was under age. I do not know anymore. I just got = > > this info last month. Their children, Ellen, John, James and Mary > > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:27 AM, PJ Culligan wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I saw your message at the Clare mailing lists. I have access to an = > > index of baptisms & marriages in Kilrush. I don=92t have it in front of = > > me right now but can tell you that John Pyne. ? McAllister had 2 = > > children baptized in Kilrush. If I remember correctly the daughter was = > > Catherine. Send me the details and I will let you know what I find. > >> =20 > >> =20 > >> =20 > >> Regards from Kilrush > >> P.J. Culligan > >> =20 > >> =20 > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-5--419899019 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset=windows-1252 > > > > <html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://14/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: = > > break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = > > after-white-space; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><span = > > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 14px;">All I can tell you > = > > is he had a daughter, Julia,census of 1861 says born in Ireland, Ellen = > > was &nbsp;her Mother's name also b. Ireland as was JOHN Pyne. No county = > > given on any census from 1861 on .Julia Pyne the daughter married a = > > Patrick Courtney in Middlesex in Jan. 1857, according to marriage info = > > she was under age. I do not know anymore. I just got this info last = > > month. Their children, Ellen, John, James and = > > Mary</span></font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><span > = > > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > > 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = > > size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > > 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = > > size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > > 14px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:27 AM, PJ = > > Culligan wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote > = > > type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: > = > > separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: = > > normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: = > > normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: > = > > normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: > = > > 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = > > -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = > > auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div = > > lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"Section1" = > > style=3D"page: Section1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: = > > 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; = > > font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span = > > style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > ">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = > > margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: > = > > 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > ">&nbsp;&nbsp; I saw your message at the Clare mailing lists. I have = > > access to an index of baptisms &amp; marriages in Kilrush. I don=92t = > > have it in front of me right now but can tell you that John Pyne. ? = > > McAllister had 2 children baptized in Kilrush. If I remember correctly = > > the daughter was Catherine. Send me the details and I will let you know = > > what I find.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = > > 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; = > > font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = > > margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: > = > > 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = > > margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: > = > > 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = > > margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: > = > > 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > > ">Regards from Kilrush<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div = > > style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; = > > margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; = > > "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; = > > font-family: Arial; ">P.J. Culligan</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div = > > style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; = > > margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; = > > "><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: = > > 12pt; ">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = > > 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; = > > font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"3" = > > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; = > > > "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote></d= > > iv><br></div></body></html>= > > > > --Apple-Mail-5--419899019-- > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 111 > ***************************************** >

Hi, you need to find out if the source you are using for research purposes is complete. You could email the National Library in Dublin to find out if the records for those years are actually missing. Maggie the Dub

With the messages recently re: Pyne/Pine, and Carmody and my inability to link people of those names to what known info I have I am going to just stay with what I have at present and give up trying to go further back. I "know" there were Carmodys' in and around Kilbrin, to Liscarroll,Cork,between 1820-50s. Lack of cooperation of the RC church, despite calls and letters to the church there has not got me any documentation per se, in two years of asking. Have been able to trace the great grandparents thru Brit. census of 1861-1901, with only Denis Carmody, b Cork,1825, and wife, Johanna Courtney b.1826 Cork. At some point after 1851 they went to Middlesex, England and got married there in Uxbridge, in 1857. Denis and Johanna had Fathers' named Patrick.,Johanna's Mother named Elen. Their children Patrick b. 1858, Johanna b. 1859, John b. 1862, and Denis b. 1864, all in Uxbridge or Harlington, Middlesex. Denis was a agricultural farmer,as I think his father before him, and I am guessing due to famines his family "supposedly' from Clare, moved to Cork for work and then on to England. Their sons Patrick and Denis remained bachelors, Johanna married a John Carter and I have traced her family down to present day. John came to the USA in 1889, joined the US Army in 1895-1901 after working as mason for the years between when he found work. He married a Hanora Mulcahy Sullivan, a widow about 1900. She had 3 Sullivan children, and then had John Carmody in 1902. All I ever knew from family lore was that the Carmody's started out from Clare and made their way to England,from my Father, John who died in 1966.I am the last of the line ( as far as I know) Many different people on the lists, have tried to help in finding , most sending the documentation of census, but no one able to match to a family in Clare, which was possibly Kilrush area. I have checke thru Griffiths, and tax rolls, but hard to make a match when you have no idea which town they came from or settled in while still in Ireland. The above info took 45 years to accumulate. I even tried to find the family thru Denis' in laws, and made a "possible" connection, but cannot match to anything else, yet. With the help of so many people, I was lucky to find what I did with suggestions, and their documents they took the time to find for me. I thank you all. With the last finding of a "possible" link of in law I almost flew over to "dig him up, and see what I could find, but have decided enough is enough. I will have to wait til I meet them face to face someday. But want you all to know I am grateful that so many have helped or tried to over the years, from Australia, England and the USA! Time to pack it in, I think! pat

Most likely those pages were damaged or lost. Sometimes entire volumes were lost, unfortunately. Diane

In researching baptismal Eustace records at St. Senan's Church, it appears that there is a lapse of Eustace baptismal records in the 1830's from about 1833-1839. Yet, I know there were several Eustace births in the St. Senan's area during those years. Is there any explanation other than they just failed to be recorded by the priest/parents? Terry

Hello Rae, Possibly she is related, but we will probably need to find the next generation back in Ireland to connect them. Also, I have the Eaglehawk Pioneers Register and although there are eight different Collins families, Helen Collins isn't amongst them. Who were her parents? I might have information re her extended family if they are in the Register. Marg. -----Original Message----- From: Rae & Greg Ryan Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family Marg, I can't help but wonder if my Helen Collins was somehow connected to your Anne .Mine ended up also in the Eaglehawk /Bendigo area. Rae. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Watson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family

Begin forwarded message: > From: [email protected] > Date: June 20, 2011 3:56:54 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Failure Notice > > Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. > > 252 > > All I can tell you is he had a daughter, Julia,census of 1861 says born = > in Ireland, Ellen was her Mother's name also b. Ireland as was JOHN = > Pyne. No county given on any census from 1861 on .Julia Pyne the = > daughter married a Patrick Courtney in Middlesex in Jan. 1857, according = > to marriage info she was under age. I do not know anymore. I just got = > this info last month. Their children, Ellen, John, James and Mary > > > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:27 AM, PJ Culligan wrote: > >> Hi, >> I saw your message at the Clare mailing lists. I have access to an = > index of baptisms & marriages in Kilrush. I don=92t have it in front of = > me right now but can tell you that John Pyne. ? McAllister had 2 = > children baptized in Kilrush. If I remember correctly the daughter was = > Catherine. Send me the details and I will let you know what I find. >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Regards from Kilrush >> P.J. Culligan >> =20 >> =20 > > > --Apple-Mail-5--419899019 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=windows-1252 > > <html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://14/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: = > break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = > after-white-space; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><span = > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 14px;">All I can tell you = > is he had a daughter, Julia,census of 1861 says born in Ireland, Ellen = > was &nbsp;her Mother's name also b. Ireland as was JOHN Pyne. No county = > given on any census from 1861 on .Julia Pyne the daughter married a = > Patrick Courtney in Middlesex in Jan. 1857, according to marriage info = > she was under age. I do not know anymore. I just got this info last = > month. Their children, Ellen, John, James and = > Mary</span></font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><span = > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = > size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = > size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = > 14px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:27 AM, PJ = > Culligan wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: = > separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: = > normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: = > normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = > normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: = > 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = > -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = > auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div = > lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"Section1" = > style=3D"page: Section1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: = > 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; = > font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span = > style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > ">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = > margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: = > 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size=3D"2" = > face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; = > ">&nbsp;&nbsp; I saw your message at the Clare mailing lists. I have = > access to an index of baptisms &amp; marriages in Kilrush. I don=92t = > have it in front of me right now but can tell you that John Pyne. ? = > McAllister had 2 children baptized in Kilrush. If I remember correctly = > the daughter was Catherine. 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Dear Nicola Thanks for jumping in and thanks for the information re the dates that the Ejectment Books are up to. As a transcriber for Co Clare also, I agree with Sharon that any database for records for Co Clare or any county in Ireland for that matter are a fantastic asset to the library and thank you for your time. Unfortunately I have no William Lynch's in my line, I have only found Patrick so far with his son John who left Co Clare in 1848. Regards and thanks again. Joan in Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicola Jennings" > Hi Joan, > I'm jumping in and answering your question to Larry. > Yes - they could be. I'm afraid I can't help you with 1848 as I have only > reached 1835 in the Ejectment Books. > In 1834 Crofton Moore Vandeleur took a case against William Lynch of > Kilrush (ground and dwelling house). > Nicola >> >> >> >> >> > Hello Larry >> > >> > Probably a silly question, but if people lived in the town of Kilrush >> > in >> > houses they rented from Mr Vandeleur, would they also be subject to >> > being >> > ejected and be in the Ejectment books please?....the time period I am >> > talking of is about 1848 and the name I'm searching for is LYNCH. >> > >> > Thank you for any info. >> > Cheers >> > Joan in Oz -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1463 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi,   I have somewhat of the same problem. My Tadgh Scanlan might have been one of the first evictees.  According to some information and I received from a now deceased uncle, Tadgh may have come from another area into the Township where the Scanlan's lived for many generations.  Current one do not care about family history!!!!!  According to my father we were not related to the other Scanlan/Scanlon's in the area except by marriage.  That marriage one I have found and will not go further there, no interest for me.   And I have found that my family used both the Scanlan and the Scanlon forms of the name within the family!!!!!   Alanna --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Lewis Pat <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Peter, thanks for your helpful reply. Yes they did all end up in Victoria, in Eaglehawk near Bendigo. They are all buried in the Eaglehawk cemetery. Thomas and Hanora came via South Australia and my guess is they took advantage of the Assisted Immigration Scheme to South Australia as they stayed there the obligatory four years before coming to Victoria. I haven't yet cracked the arrival details of the others, although not for the effort of trying! One of the problems is that, probably because of illiteracy, they weren't sure of dates, ages etc, eg Patrick gave his age on his marriage certificate; his age at death should therefore be his marriage age plus the years he was married, but it isn't so. Possibly the priest who married him looked at him and guessed his age. This makes it impossible to check the immigration indexes and use age to determine if a particular Patrick McMahon is mine. I have a lot of detail of their descendants in Australia and would love to take my McMahon line back further into Ireland. Thank you for the suggestion of the last one leaving Ireland after the death of the parents, that is something to consider. You asked about the Victorian immigration indexes - I believe the original record of these is at the Public Records Office of Victoria (PROV) in North Melbourne. I find the digitised version on their website a bit annoying as it really needs an Advanced Search option to speed up the sorting process. Thank you again for replying Peter, and for your suggestions. I'll keep digging around and see what turns up. Best wishes, Marg. -----Original Message----- From: Peter R Booth Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] My McMahon family

Thanks to everyone with explaination of "ejectment books". Seems the missing books are the ones that have the information of John Pyne's ejectment of the land he was to take care of in Clare, near Kilrush. Since my Carmody family supposedly came from Clare to Cork then to Middlesex England, and both Carmody and Pyne were agricultural farmers I was hoping to find a connection to them in Clare area. Seems the only connection I now have documentation of is Pyne's daughter married my great-grandmothers, brother. All I ever knew was the Carmody's had bee in Clare for years before moving on to Cork , leaving the mystery alive!

> Hello Larry > > Probably a silly question, but if people lived in the town of Kilrush in > houses they rented from Mr Vandeleur, would they also be subject to being > ejected and be in the Ejectment books please?....the time period I am > talking of is about 1848 and the name I'm searching for is LYNCH. > > Thank you for any info. > Cheers > Joan in Oz > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1462 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks Nicola. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicola Jennings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Ejectment books of County Clare, National Archives of Ireland > > > > > > Hi Joan, > I'm jumping in and answering your question to Larry. > Yes - they could be. I'm afraid I can't help you with 1848 as I have only > reached 1835 in the Ejectment Books. > In 1834 Crofton Moore Vandeleur took a case against William Lynch of > Kilrush (ground and dwelling house). > Nicola > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:47:18 +1000 >> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Ejectment books of County Clare, National >> Archives of Ireland >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello Larry >> > >> > Probably a silly question, but if people lived in the town of Kilrush >> > in >> > houses they rented from Mr Vandeleur, would they also be subject to >> > being >> > ejected and be in the Ejectment books please?....the time period I am >> > talking of is about 1848 and the name I'm searching for is LYNCH. >> > >> > Thank you for any info. >> > Cheers >> > Joan in Oz >> > >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >> We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. >> SPAMfighter has removed 1462 of my spam emails to date. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> The Professional version does not have this message >> >> >> ====================================== >> Remember to stay on Topic. >> If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan, I'm jumping in and answering your question to Larry. Yes - they could be. I'm afraid I can't help you with 1848 as I have only reached 1835 in the Ejectment Books. In 1834 Crofton Moore Vandeleur took a case against William Lynch of Kilrush (ground and dwelling house). Nicola > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:47:18 +1000 > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Ejectment books of County Clare, National Archives of Ireland > > > > > > > Hello Larry > > > > Probably a silly question, but if people lived in the town of Kilrush in > > houses they rented from Mr Vandeleur, would they also be subject to being > > ejected and be in the Ejectment books please?....the time period I am > > talking of is about 1848 and the name I'm searching for is LYNCH. > > > > Thank you for any info. > > Cheers > > Joan in Oz > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1462 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg, After just re-establishing an 85yr old connection to Clare, I was getting quite excited at the possibility of another link. But probably not. At least the names forced me to have a closer look. Your families look to be from Ballycorey in East Clare and mine are from Milltown Malbay in West Clare. I'll also check with my new cousins in Clare. There are a few submitted trees on Ancestry both private and public, but they all seem to hit the brick wall with Michael McMahon and Ann(e) Collins. Perhaps you have an Ancestry subscription, or conversely, one of the submitters are on this list. Nevertheless, their data looks to simply cover all the Australian families which you probably have. I see they settled in Victoria. Is that where you live? I've used the Victorian Immigration Indexes often, but never been able to find the original papers from which they were derived, especially for Assisted Immigrants. Those for NSW have a host of extra detail not on the indexes. And the original shipping lists for NSW have also been digitised. Not so Victoria it seems. You could ask at Victorian State Archives. The reason for that suggestion is that I feel the last child probably didn't leave home until after their parents died. So that might help find their deaths. The new FamilySearch site has Irish Civil records after 1864. But before you get too excited, there's hundreds of deaths for Michael McMahon. So you need to get a specific timeframe. Like UK, these are by Registration District. I'm guessing Ennis would be the registration office for Ballycorey, but others may be able to confirm this. Another thought is the Clare Libary site. There are some hidden gems in their collection hidden under donated data. Oops!!! I see some of it is yours. So you know all about that. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I keep an eye on any follow up posts. Peter in Sydney

Hello listers, I have rejoined the Clare list after quite a break and would like to list my interests. Five McMahon siblings came to the Australian goldfields from the 1850s: Thomas McMahon born c1833, married Hanora Hartigan at Barefield in 1854. Thomas and Hanora immigrated to Australia shortly after their marriage. Patrick McMahon born c1836. Catherine McMahon born c1837, married John O’Brien at Barefield in 1861. Catherine came to Australia with two children Patrick and Mary, but without John. Presumably he died in Ireland. Mary Anne McMahon born c 1838 Ann McMahon born c1839. These were all children of Michael McMahon and Anne Collins. Whilst I have no definite information on Michael and Anne, I think I may have found him on the Griffiths Valuation at Ballycorey. Putting together all the information I have from the children’s marriage and death certificates, I think the Ballycorey Michael McMahon may be my man, although I am prepared to change my mind on this if I find information to prove me wrong! I would love to make contact with anyone researching this family, or any other McMahon family from Ballycorey to try to unravel my McMahon mystery. Best wishes to all, Marg Watson in wintery Australia.