Going through the paper yesterday I came across the following: Clare's Oldest Women Dead: (as reported in the Clare Champion on 1st June 1940). Mrs. Bridget Guthrie, Clehane, Liscannor reputed to be the oldest women in Clare died on Sunday last. She was almost 115 years of age. When the present bridge midway between Lahinch and Liscannor was being built exactly 103 years ago, the late Mrs. Guthrie who was then a girl of 12 years, carried the dinners to the workmen employed on the building. In the picture in the article she is pictured with her son Thomas and his wife and daughter. She had a family of sixteen, most of whom are dead. She had nine great great grandchildren In America and three great great grandchildren in Liscannor. Her eldest daughter, who is 85 lives in America. Her funeral to the old historic Churchyard in Kilmacreedy on Tuesday last was representative of every household in the district for miles around. (No relationship to me. For information purposes only).

Peter, Thanks for your email. I have been searching for about 20 years for Mary Ann and her father Timothy and I have only found that Ireland has been shown as her birthplace. Now some kind person sent me an email many years ago which was lost due to a computer crash,showing a Timothy "Felscharold" which she said could be a variant of FITZGERALD, in Abervale, 1841 Census for Monmouthshire Wales. He is shown with 2 children.....Elinor b.about 1825? [not sure of this date] and Mary Ann b.1835, [which is correct as shown on her marriage certificate with her father known as Timothy Fitzgerald.I have all the history from the marriage to Thomas HOOLEY coming down to myself.] Timothy is shown as a Tinman [always smile at this...Wizard of Oz?] but there were no other family with him and he was a widower. I have tried the 1841 Census of Mons. but with no luck I am afraid. I noticed that Ancestry had an entry for her being born in Abervale but I cannot find this either. I know that sometimes that Ancestry get things wrong and I want to find out who sent this in so I can contact them. Mind you, there are so many Mary Anns in Ireland and Wales alone. Have just noticed another 2 emails come in with more information so I can see I will be busy today checking out all these sites. Again, thanks for your suggestions and I will keep looking through Wales for more information. Incidently, I have the certificates for Timothys 2nd marriage in 1867 and death in 1872 in Swansea Wales and Mary Anns marriage certificate for 1857 also Swansea Wales. All just showing Ireland as the place of birth.She died in 1908 and I hope to send for her death certificate this week. However, looking at all the censuses, it appears that grt/grandparents,Mary Ann and Thomas Hooley and their large family, lived most of their lives around Cardiff as G/grandfather worked in the Coal business on the Docks. Back to work now Peter and try to find these Fitzeralds! Again many thanks and best wishes, Mary [Hooley] Mizzi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] MaryAnn FITZGERALD > Mary, > > Have you any particular reason for thinking they are from Clare? > > I'd start by looking in Wales. Do you have Mary's marriage certificate > or her father's death certificate? And what of her mother? > > If she married in Swansea in 1856, it's possible that the family may > have moved there before 1851 census. > > I'd try and find her father Timothy in 1851, 1861 and 1871. Was he a > widower? Were there any other family members? Was his occupation a cooper? > Don't rely on just one census. > > If we had a name for her mother, it would make identifying Mary or one > of her brothers and sisters somewhat easier. We might also find a > marriage. > That would settle if we were looking in the right place. > > The IFHF website has only two Mary Fitzgerald baptisms with father > Timothy. Both in 1838. One was in Cork, the other in Limerick. But that > doesn't mean a lot as many records have not survived. > > Peter > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, Have you any particular reason for thinking they are from Clare? I'd start by looking in Wales. Do you have Mary's marriage certificate or her father's death certificate? And what of her mother? If she married in Swansea in 1856, it's possible that the family may have moved there before 1851 census. I'd try and find her father Timothy in 1851, 1861 and 1871. Was he a widower? Were there any other family members? Was his occupation a cooper? Don't rely on just one census. If we had a name for her mother, it would make identifying Mary or one of her brothers and sisters somewhat easier. We might also find a marriage. That would settle if we were looking in the right place. The IFHF website has only two Mary Fitzgerald baptisms with father Timothy. Both in 1838. One was in Cork, the other in Limerick. But that doesn't mean a lot as many records have not survived. Peter

Hello list, Looking for my g/grandmother, Mary Ann Fitztgerald, born about 1835 Ireland.She married Thomas HOOLEY in Swansea Wales in 1856. Her fathers name was Timothy or Thaddeus Fitzgerald. He was b.1784 Ireland and d.1872 in Swansea Wales. Trying to find either MaryAnns birth place or any information about this family in Ireland PRE 1836. I have just found a Timothy Fitzgerald shown as a "Cooper" in the Directory of MILLTOWN MALBAY Spanish Point and neighbourhoods, Co Clare. Unfortunately, I do not have the date of this directory. If any person on this list has any knowledge or relationship with this family, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you as this has been my brick wall for 20 years. Or can anyone tell me who/where I should search in Clare for this family. Thanking you for any help, Kind regards, Mary

Miltown Malbay baptisms back to 1831 can be found on films held by the Clare Heritage Center and the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. You'd have to pay someone to do a lookup for you. Diane

---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Hello Rae, I think it would be well worth your while to get this book. There is an index of names as well as sources in it and the author is a descendant of a Daniel McMahon! It is a quite extensive history from earliest times in the area. I haven't read it all but jumped on the reference to John Gorman from Fossa Beg because he could quite possibly my ancestor. You could possibly get it through the internet. I purchased it in Ennis, I think! Good luck, Elizabeth Andrews. Elizabeth, How amazing that you went to Tuamgraney! My ancestors Michael McMahon (b1799) & his son Patrick(b 1836-1839) came from this area.They also arrived into Vic Do you think it is worthwhile purchasing this book,does it give you names? Thanks Rae Ryan Qld. -------------------------------------------------- > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:14:49 -0400 From: Kathryn Rennie <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] (no subject) To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://web400.server1.kingstaff-server.com/amazon.php ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:29:42 -0400 From: Christina Hunt <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] From list admin To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hope we all know...never click on a link without any reason given. I just had to replace my computer because of a trojan of unknown origin. Many of these are caughter because they go out to so many addresses. This is an example of one that got through. Be careful! Christina List Admin On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kathryn Rennie wrote: > http://web400.server1.kingstaff-serv > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:45:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alanna L Scanlon <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] From list admin To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was told by more than one computer repair source to use AVG the Free Version.? They just found a?Trojan Horse and put it in isolation.? I then deleted it. ? Alanna? ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 126 *****************************************

Elizabeth, How amazing that you went to Tuamgraney! My ancestors Michael McMahon (b1799) & his son Patrick(b 1836-1839) came from this area.They also arrived into Vic Do you think it is worthwhile purchasing this book,does it give you names? Thanks Rae Ryan Qld. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elizabeth Andrews" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:39 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Fw: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year'sEve, 1819' in which John Brady, Landlord,was "up for investigation" - REPEAT QUERY!! > > > From: Elizabeth Andrews > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year's Eve, 1819' in > which John Brady, Landlord, was "up for investigation" > > G’day all, > This post is a rare one to this list. > I have just visited County Clare. What a lovely place!!! I loved East > Clare and the North West of the County, The Burren, “blew me away!!”. > I didn’t see the “sun go down on Galway Bay” because it was cloudy but the > Aran Isles were another adventure. > I even climbed up to the fort on Innismore!!! I’m OLD, 3 score years and > 13, and FAT!! > The arrangement of those dry stone walls in County Clare around the > oh-so-small fields was evidence, in itself, of the oppression of the > people in the 1850’sl > The first area I went to, of course, after arriving from England at > Shannon Airport was – Scariff then Tuamgraney where I purchased “A History > of Tuamgraney & Scariff” written by Gerard Madden and published by East > Clare Heritage, Tuamgraney in 2000. > > My query is about the Battle of Scariff as described in the book and the > subsequent enquiry by George Warburton – Chief Magistrate, County Clare in > 1819. The reference given in the book for p.77 is ”Jimmy O’Toole, The > Carlow Gentry, 1993” > One of the witnesses cited was one John Gorman of Fossa Beg. They were > investigating the landlord, one John Brady (the rotten apple in the Brady > Bunch so it seems). > Are there any records on line of judicial enquiries around that time apart > from unpublished theses or books such as cited above? > > I have an ancestor – g.grandmother, Cath. Harwood (nee Gorman) – who hails > from the Tuamgraney/Fossa Beg/Scariff area. She left there around 1851 – > AFAIK! > I am still struggling to find how & why she came to the goldfields of > Wedderburn, Victoria, Australia. > She met, and married, my g.grandfather Joseph Harwood who hailed from > Scarborough, Yorkshire and they were the first couple married on the > Wedderburn Goldfields. > I have a feeling, also, that there might be some connection with St. > Cronan’s Church in Tuamgraney as my g.gran. married in Victoria in the > Church of England tradition. (I noted that St. Cronan’s seemed to be > Church of Ireland) > > Did she come via England? Canada? America? > I live south of Melbourne in Victoria, Australia so don’t have easy access > to shipping records and there are MANY! > > My g.g.grandfather, Hugh Gorman, is listed on the Tithe Applotments as > sharing a potato plot with 15 others in Fossa Beg which today just seems > to be a very small area with an R.C. Church, a few houses and loads of > power poles. The Gormans, obviously, were not the landlords and were > possibly Protestants for convenience sake or otherwise. > I spoke to one of the residents of Fossa Beg in May 2011 but was loathe to > interrupt the local priest to ask questions. He may not have been able > to help anyway! > > Would SKS be able to help??? > > Thanking you all for a wonderful list! > Elizabeth Andrews, Mornington Peninsula, Vic., Australia. > > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Christina I sent it before I saw your message, but had hit reply to ask :( Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:54 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] From List admin > It won't hurt anyone unless they click on it. >>>>We don't want to continue sending it out by hitting reply. <<< > Thanks, > Christina > List Admin > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Margaret Spearin wrote: > >> IS THIS A VIRUS? >> >> Margaret > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FWIW I had the free AVG on my computer. It didn't even send out a peep that a trojan had taken hold. By the time I realized it - it was too late. This looked like a real warning from my own computer. My best advice is to back up your files offsite or use a syncing system like Drop Box (for instance) to protect your important (read genealogy) files. Happily they saved my files. Cheers, Christina On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Alanna L Scanlon wrote: > I was told by more than one computer repair source to use AVG the Free Version. They just found a Trojan Horse and put it in isolation. I then deleted it. > > Alanna

I hope we all know...never click on a link without any reason given. I just had to replace my computer because of a trojan of unknown origin. Many of these are caughter because they go out to so many addresses. This is an example of one that got through. Be careful! Christina List Admin On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kathryn Rennie wrote: > http://web400.server1.kingstaff-serv > > ====================================== > Remember to stay on Topic. > If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Having a wonderful time in Ennis, attending the O'Dea clan gathering. I was also lucky enough to meet members of the Clare Roots Society. Firstly I met Gerry Kennedy in the local studies library and him, Peter and I had a very interesting chat! Next I had lunch with Clara, which was also very enjoyable as we chatted about all sorts of things. On my last day, I met up with Larry Brennan for a cuppa. He came along with a Drumcliff cemetery book for me and lots of other useful bits. We had a lovely discussion overlooking the river also. So a big thank you to all of the above for meeting up with me at such short notice - it is so good to put names to the faces you are communicating and working with. My O'Dea clan gathering in Ennis is sadly over. We had a wonderful time - with registration in the Old GroundHotel, followed by an official welcome in the town hall by the mayor with finger food, followed by informal drinks. Next day a trip to Dysart O'Dea (O'dea castle), medieval banquet at Bunratty (where our chieftain acted as the Lord, complete with crown), follwed by drinks at John O'Dea's bar. Next day, Mass and a trip out to the Aran Islands. The day was topped off when the ferry took us right underneath the Cliffs of Moher - spectacuar! Back to scrub up for the official dinner, where we elected the next clan chieftain, followed by more drinks at John O'Deas bar! Monday ws the AGM and a trip to the local studies library. I have picked up so much information on my trip and will need time to delve and sort when I get home. So apologies to those of you who have contacted me for information, I haven't forgotten you! Best regards Anne

From: Elizabeth Andrews Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year's Eve, 1819' in which John Brady, Landlord, was "up for investigation" G’day all, This post is a rare one to this list. I have just visited County Clare. What a lovely place!!! I loved East Clare and the North West of the County, The Burren, “blew me away!!”. I didn’t see the “sun go down on Galway Bay” because it was cloudy but the Aran Isles were another adventure. I even climbed up to the fort on Innismore!!! I’m OLD, 3 score years and 13, and FAT!! The arrangement of those dry stone walls in County Clare around the oh-so-small fields was evidence, in itself, of the oppression of the people in the 1850’sl The first area I went to, of course, after arriving from England at Shannon Airport was – Scariff then Tuamgraney where I purchased “A History of Tuamgraney & Scariff” written by Gerard Madden and published by East Clare Heritage, Tuamgraney in 2000. My query is about the Battle of Scariff as described in the book and the subsequent enquiry by George Warburton – Chief Magistrate, County Clare in 1819. The reference given in the book for p.77 is ”Jimmy O’Toole, The Carlow Gentry, 1993” One of the witnesses cited was one John Gorman of Fossa Beg. They were investigating the landlord, one John Brady (the rotten apple in the Brady Bunch so it seems). Are there any records on line of judicial enquiries around that time apart from unpublished theses or books such as cited above? I have an ancestor – g.grandmother, Cath. Harwood (nee Gorman) – who hails from the Tuamgraney/Fossa Beg/Scariff area. She left there around 1851 – AFAIK! I am still struggling to find how & why she came to the goldfields of Wedderburn, Victoria, Australia. She met, and married, my g.grandfather Joseph Harwood who hailed from Scarborough, Yorkshire and they were the first couple married on the Wedderburn Goldfields. I have a feeling, also, that there might be some connection with St. Cronan’s Church in Tuamgraney as my g.gran. married in Victoria in the Church of England tradition. (I noted that St. Cronan’s seemed to be Church of Ireland) Did she come via England? Canada? America? I live south of Melbourne in Victoria, Australia so don’t have easy access to shipping records and there are MANY! My g.g.grandfather, Hugh Gorman, is listed on the Tithe Applotments as sharing a potato plot with 15 others in Fossa Beg which today just seems to be a very small area with an R.C. Church, a few houses and loads of power poles. The Gormans, obviously, were not the landlords and were possibly Protestants for convenience sake or otherwise. I spoke to one of the residents of Fossa Beg in May 2011 but was loathe to interrupt the local priest to ask questions. He may not have been able to help anyway! Would SKS be able to help??? Thanking you all for a wonderful list! Elizabeth Andrews, Mornington Peninsula, Vic., Australia.

The word Carraig translates to Rock in Irish/Gaelic, so perhaps it was originally a Celtic word rather than Scottish. The Celts were in Ireland since 3000bc. Maggie the Dub On 12 Jul 2011, at 17:00, [email protected] wrote: I Think I May have a Charles in my line but just can't prove it with certainty. I see one in Legard north o n Griffiths but can't get a firm connection. The word carrig is a Scottish word meaning rock. It may be that our beginning roots are scottish and not so much Irish. Wherever they are from I'll work to find a line, but my age is advancing and my search has hit that wall everyone talks about ! Thanks for the names and locations. Will give them a run-down. Pat D ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:00:05 AM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 125 **REMEMBER...When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and snip excess text. Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 124 (Matthew Jude Barker) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:29:25 -0400 From: Matthew Jude Barker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 124 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been tracing my great-grandmother Alice Carrigg Gillan's Clare roots for over 25 years and yes, it is hard to trace thsese Carrigs! She was born 10-8-1868 in Smithstown, Drumline Parish, d/o Thomas Carrigg (1834-1884) a native of Gortnamuck, Clondegad Parish, Co. Clare, and Bridget Gleeson (1832-1919), a native of Fenloe, Tomfinlough Parish, Co. Clare. Tom Carrig was the son of William Carrig (1786-1866), a native of Cloonamore, Clondegad Parish, and Anne. William was s/o Daniel? Carrig, who also had children Michael, Daniel, Patrick, and Thomas. It is said that all Carrigs are eventually related, so I have tracked down all the people by that name I can! There was a Charles Carrig in Ennistymon in the late 1790s and early 1800s. One Charles Carrig was a grocer and another one, possibly the same one, was arrested for operating an illicit still c. 1800. I would like to start a Carrig/Carrigg newsletter to help researchers with their Carrig ancestry and connect them all as much as possibe!! On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: **> 1. McGuire/Carrig ([email protected]) ***************************************** End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 125 ***************************************** ====================================== Remember to stay on Topic. If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was told by more than one computer repair source to use AVG the Free Version.  They just found a Trojan Horse and put it in isolation.  I then deleted it.   Alanna 

I Think I May have a Charles in my line but just can't prove it with certainty. I see one in Legard north o n Griffiths but can't get a firm connection. The word carrig is a Scottish word meaning rock. It may be that our beginning roots are scottish and not so much Irish. Wherever they are from I'll work to find a line, but my age is advancing and my search has hit that wall everyone talks about ! Thanks for the names and locations. Will give them a run-down.   Pat D ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:00:05 AM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 125 **REMEMBER...When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and snip excess text. Today's Topics:    1. Re: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 124 (Matthew Jude Barker) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:29:25 -0400 From: Matthew Jude Barker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 124 To: [email protected] Message-ID:         <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been tracing my great-grandmother Alice Carrigg Gillan's Clare roots for over 25 years and yes, it is hard to trace thsese Carrigs! She was born 10-8-1868 in Smithstown, Drumline Parish, d/o Thomas Carrigg (1834-1884) a native of Gortnamuck, Clondegad Parish, Co. Clare, and Bridget Gleeson (1832-1919),  a native of Fenloe, Tomfinlough Parish, Co. Clare. Tom Carrig was the son of William Carrig (1786-1866), a native of Cloonamore, Clondegad Parish, and Anne. William was s/o Daniel? Carrig, who also had children Michael, Daniel, Patrick, and Thomas. It is said that all Carrigs are eventually related, so I have tracked down all the people by that name I can! There was a Charles Carrig in Ennistymon in the late 1790s and early 1800s. One Charles Carrig was a grocer and another one, possibly the same one, was arrested for operating an illicit still c. 1800. I would like to start a Carrig/Carrigg newsletter to help researchers with their Carrig ancestry and connect them all as much as possibe!! On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > **> >   1. McGuire/Carrig ([email protected]) > > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 125 *****************************************

Hi, just to clarify, ' Church of Ireland' does not pertain to RCs. The Church of Ireland is Anglican/Protestant. It is, in fact, the Church of England refounded in Ireland. Maggie the Dub On 12 Jul 2011, at 09:39, "Elizabeth Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote: From: Elizabeth Andrews Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Query about 'The Battle of Scariff on New Year's Eve, 1819' in which John Brady, Landlord, was "up for investigation" G’day all, This post is a rare one to this list. I have just visited County Clare. What a lovely place!!! I loved East Clare and the North West of the County, The Burren, “blew me away!!”. I didn’t see the “sun go down on Galway Bay” because it was cloudy but the Aran Isles were another adventure. I even climbed up to the fort on Innismore!!! I’m OLD, 3 score years and 13, and FAT!! The arrangement of those dry stone walls in County Clare around the oh-so-small fields was evidence, in itself, of the oppression of the people in the 1850’sl The first area I went to, of course, after arriving from England at Shannon Airport was – Scariff then Tuamgraney where I purchased “A History of Tuamgraney & Scariff” written by Gerard Madden and published by East Clare Heritage, Tuamgraney in 2000. My query is about the Battle of Scariff as described in the book and the subsequent enquiry by George Warburton – Chief Magistrate, County Clare in 1819. The reference given in the book for p.77 is ”Jimmy O’Toole, The Carlow Gentry, 1993” One of the witnesses cited was one John Gorman of Fossa Beg. They were investigating the landlord, one John Brady (the rotten apple in the Brady Bunch so it seems). Are there any records on line of judicial enquiries around that time apart from unpublished theses or books such as cited above? I have an ancestor – g.grandmother, Cath. Harwood (nee Gorman) – who hails from the Tuamgraney/Fossa Beg/Scariff area. She left there around 1851 – AFAIK! I am still struggling to find how & why she came to the goldfields of Wedderburn, Victoria, Australia. She met, and married, my g.grandfather Joseph Harwood who hailed from Scarborough, Yorkshire and they were the first couple married on the Wedderburn Goldfields. I have a feeling, also, that there might be some connection with St. Cronan’s Church in Tuamgraney as my g.gran. married in Victoria in the Church of England tradition. (I noted that St. Cronan’s seemed to be Church of Ireland) Did she come via England? Canada? America? I live south of Melbourne in Victoria, Australia so don’t have easy access to shipping records and there are MANY! My g.g.grandfather, Hugh Gorman, is listed on the Tithe Applotments as sharing a potato plot with 15 others in Fossa Beg which today just seems to be a very small area with an R.C. Church, a few houses and loads of power poles. The Gormans, obviously, were not the landlords and were possibly Protestants for convenience sake or otherwise. I spoke to one of the residents of Fossa Beg in May 2011 but was loathe to interrupt the local priest to ask questions. He may not have been able to help anyway! Would SKS be able to help??? Thanking you all for a wonderful list! Elizabeth Andrews, Mornington Peninsula, Vic., Australia. ====================================== Remember to stay on Topic. If you have a problem with anything please contact the list admin [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been tracing my great-grandmother Alice Carrigg Gillan's Clare roots for over 25 years and yes, it is hard to trace thsese Carrigs! She was born 10-8-1868 in Smithstown, Drumline Parish, d/o Thomas Carrigg (1834-1884) a native of Gortnamuck, Clondegad Parish, Co. Clare, and Bridget Gleeson (1832-1919), a native of Fenloe, Tomfinlough Parish, Co. Clare. Tom Carrig was the son of William Carrig (1786-1866), a native of Cloonamore, Clondegad Parish, and Anne. William was s/o Daniel? Carrig, who also had children Michael, Daniel, Patrick, and Thomas. It is said that all Carrigs are eventually related, so I have tracked down all the people by that name I can! There was a Charles Carrig in Ennistymon in the late 1790s and early 1800s. One Charles Carrig was a grocer and another one, possibly the same one, was arrested for operating an illicit still c. 1800. I would like to start a Carrig/Carrigg newsletter to help researchers with their Carrig ancestry and connect them all as much as possibe!! On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > **REMEMBER...When replying - be sure to change Subject heading and snip > excess text. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. McGuire/Carrig ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) > From: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] McGuire/Carrig > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > < > [email protected]r.pa.mail.comcast.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:00:09 AM > Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 123 > > > Many thanks Lillian! The name Carrig does not seem to be a common name and > yet, it is hard to find information on them. On the other side of the fence, > McGuire (and it's many varient spellings) is also difficult to sort out and > trace because it is so common. I'll sort out the information I have and see > if the "shoe" you found will fit the "foot" on my tree. Many, many thank > yous.?? Pat D > ** ?? 1. McGuire and Carrigg (LILLIAN) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pat D - > Following found under Old Cemetery, Ennistymon > In loving memory of, Michael McGuire, died, June 1940, Thomas McGuire died, > July 1942, > Mary Carrigg, died, June 1942, Annie McGuire, died, Dec. ?1950, Austin > Carrigg, died, Feb. > 1956, Delia McGuire, died, May 1972, Katie McGuire > On the small chance it might help you, I thought I'd pass it on.... > Lillian > > > ***************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CLARE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-CLARE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 124 > ***************************************** >

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:00:09 AM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 123 Many thanks Lillian! The name Carrig does not seem to be a common name and yet, it is hard to find information on them. On the other side of the fence, McGuire (and it's many varient spellings) is also difficult to sort out and trace because it is so common. I'll sort out the information I have and see if the "shoe" you found will fit the "foot" on my tree. Many, many thank yous.   Pat D **    1. McGuire and Carrigg (LILLIAN) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pat D - Following found under Old Cemetery, Ennistymon In loving memory of, Michael McGuire, died, June 1940, Thomas McGuire died, July 1942, Mary Carrigg, died, June 1942, Annie McGuire, died, Dec.  1950, Austin Carrigg, died, Feb. 1956, Delia McGuire, died, May 1972, Katie McGuire On the small chance it might help you, I thought I'd pass it on.... Lillian *****************************************

Pat D - Following found under Old Cemetery, Ennistymon In loving memory of, Michael McGuire, died, June 1940, Thomas McGuire died, July 1942, Mary Carrigg, died, June 1942, Annie McGuire, died, Dec. 1950, Austin Carrigg, died, Feb. 1956, Delia McGuire, died, May 1972, Katie McGuire On the small chance it might help you, I thought I'd pass it on.... Lillian

Hi Anne:    Nothing like a good day or two of craic with a with an Irish family. I'm sure you'll get the information you need! I don't know what records you have access to, but I've been banging my head against a wall for many years trying to find some information on the Maguires and Carricks.  There is a headstone in Drumcliffe Cemetery with Elizabeth and Peter Maguire which leads me to believe they lived in Ennis, or close to it. I'd be eternally grateful if you are able to find out if they lived in the area. But, p lease don't take too much time away from visiting the relatives. Not many chances like that come along. Many thanks for your kind offer.   Pat D From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 3:00:12 AM Subject: IRL-CLARE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 121    2. North Clare Parish records and cemeteries (Anne Morahan)   I had copied much information for the family names that I am interested in and those that I think have a connection, so if anyone would like me to see if I have information for their family, let me know. Anne ------------------------------