Registration in the British isles did not start until 1837 in England and I think 1864 in Ireland so you will be out of luck for civil registration. You might be able to track down a baptism record if you can find out which parish he was from. You could also try the various survivng census for Co Cavan but they do not cover the whole of the county or all years. I don't know why the marriage cert would state he was registered in Ireland, perhaps it meant christened? Irish ancestors are a real pain! Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "joseph steen" <jandksteen@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] JAMES FITZPATRICK born CAVAN > I have a marriage certificate for the above ancestor. It states that he was born and Registered at County Cavan, Ireland (born about 1825-26). Can anyone tell me how to go about getting his birth certificate, or at least the information on his birth certificate? I would be most grateful. > > James' parents were John FITZPATRICK and MARGARET WHITE > > Many thanks > Kay > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN >

Dear Jane Thank you for your prompt reply to my query. The certificate I have is an 1855 Scottish one - and they give a treasure trove of information on the parties. I thought I had finally found the way over my brick wall but it appears I have a lot more work to do, as far as the Irish side of the family is concerned. What a pity they don't have the resources that the Scottish side does. Ah well - back to the drawing board. Thank you once again Kay (ex Glasgow now in Australia) PS: If you have any 'lost' rellies that you think might be in Ozzie land I would be happy to look.

I have Irish rellies, I have been very lucky as they lived in Killeshandra which is the only survivng 1841 census for Ireland, but that's where I stick cos the only way to get back further is the Irish bp records most of which are only available in Ireland and irish researchers are horribly expensive. You might like to check Irish Origins and the Irish Times sites online. You can do a simple search which while a bit generalised may help you eliminate some areas.I found some hopeful RC chr records on the Irish Times site for my BIGGS family which surprised me as as far as I am aware they were protestant. As yet I haven't been able to check out the full details, no church is stated (presumably in th e hope of making people spend lots of money on researchers in Ireland!) but some of the relevant PRs have been filmed by LDS so I need to order those and check them out some time. The dates of the baptisms also narrow down which churches it could be. There are some searchable sites online. I have found the trick with Ireland is to search everything you find for every name you can think of! That is how I found the 1841 census records which has lead to giving me gggps siblings and in one case parents and in the other grandparents names. As for Aus actually I do... PEARSON Edward and Elizabeth emigrated on the Golconda in 1858 with children William James 2 and Elizabeth Mirriam 8 and they had a load more kids in Aus (already found on the NSW database) then went to NZ in 1864, William James returned with wife Abigail and 3 kids in 1891ish and had some more kids (NSW database) .It would be nice to be able to get more details on them if possible but with out ordering the birth certs if poss (I'm a cheap bugger!) However my main problem is Edwrads family, I believe his brother Thomas was transported on the Moffat in 1836. I had a contact who was going to check up on him and send some more details but we lost touch and her email address is now defunct. Edwards parenst and other siblings disappear from England and I wonder if they too emigrated , if so not to NSW where there seesms to be no trace. My other family out there are descendants of my grandmothers SIMMONDS brothers. Again I have found marriages on the NSW site but they were born too late to be included in the births. We have lost touch with these family members after the death of my grandmothers youngest sister so don't even know if there are any survivors. good luck in your searches reagrds Jane Pearson 12 Mountfort Street Outram New Zealand Tel. 643 486 1363 jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "joseph steen" <jandksteen@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] JAMES FITZPATRICK born CAVAN > Dear Jane > > Thank you for your prompt reply to my query. The certificate I have is an > 1855 Scottish one - and they give a treasure trove of information on the > parties. I thought I had finally found the way over my brick wall but it > appears I have a lot more work to do, as far as the Irish side of the family > is concerned. What a pity they don't have the resources that the Scottish > side does. Ah well - back to the drawing board. > > Thank you once again > Kay (ex Glasgow now in Australia) > > PS: If you have any 'lost' rellies that you think might be in Ozzie land I > would be happy to look. > > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) >