In a message dated 2/26/04 5:24:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, margold56@hotmail.com writes: > What is foolish is a celebration where the celebrants have no idea of the > true > events which they are commemorating. I second that -- and have enjoyed this discussion. I, too, wondered what the term "orangemen" meant, but never thought to ask. Thanks, everyone. ~ Tamy in Nevada, USA