Colin... Well I was going to let Barbara post on this if she wanted to... Yes, I contacted them. They agreeed 100% with my analysis (which of course was based on Mike's suggestion). They gave further reasons why it was probably correct, and they gave me further resources and ideas as to how to follow up. As a part of all this, I was offered a copy of the article that has the gravestone transcriptions, which I am going to indeed ask for. Among other things, my gg-grandparents who bore their sons and baptized them in Virginia are conspicuously missing. I am wondering if they are there. When I get it I shall post it, since it will be out of copyright. Here is what I wrote to Barbara: I am transmitting attached herewith the response I got from the Cavan Library. Tom Sullivan agrees with my analysis (which was based on Mike's suggestion of course). You can summarize the position as follows: 1. Dervor in its alternate spelling Derver can be see to fit the original article very well, as previously explained; 2. Mulvany is a name associated with that part of the county which is up around Virginia (Cavan Library) 3. Dervor is an old graveyard (long closed) (per Cavan library) and therefore fits the description in the Anglo Celt. I suppose one thing you might want to do is at least prove that there were burials there as late as the 1850's when the Celt was being written. The article may be of use here. 4. Henry Mulvany was father of the two priests in the article and their mother was Ellen Farrelly. They came from Lisduff,Lurgan which is beside Virginia. (per library) It makes perfect sense that he would be buried there. 5. The second best educated guess ... Dowra ... "is not relevant" per the library. No reason given. I can accept this. >> Send me your address and I will send on the Breifne article. I will send my address to him. If you like i will scan the article and send it to you. I have been looking for my missing gg-grandfather/mother in Cavan. They are not in Virginia where the kids were born and baptised. Maybe they are here... two birs with one stone. Either way i shall communicate what I see when I get this. >> Looks to me that this might entail a visit to Dervor graveyard for you. I once arranged what I call a camera tour in Fermanagh. A Canadian Journal published my article about it. if this is really something you want to look into and cannot visit Derver yourself, I highly reccomend hiring a good local tour guide to got ther and take a roll of film. It should not cost more than a half day tour would cost you. We can discuss this more if you want. Barbara, I think personally that you can count on the article being Derver. I will do a little final work on this, but I think this is something that if you are interested in you can and should run down. IF you want to share this with the list please feel free. I have enjoyed this little mystery. i will communicate with Kay Stanton that the correction can probably be made. Shane .... Here is what Cavan library wrote. Subject: Re: Perhaps you can help... Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:25:10 +0000 From: <cavancountylibrary@eircom.net> Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) To: Shane Anderson <shane.anderson@yale.edu> Dear Shane, I think that your assumption about Dervor graveyard is correct. Mulvany is a name associated with that part of the county which is up around Virginia ,on the road to Kells.The article in Breifne only has a few inscriptions ,none for Henry Mulvany but there is one for Catherine Mulvany who died in 1767 aged 52 years and was erected by her son Michael McCabe.Dervor is an old graveyard (long closed).The Genealogy Centre at CANA House ,Cavan did some survey work there about 6 years ago and found that there were about 51 stones visible but some were difficult to decipher. Back in 1922 Philip O,Connell only recorded 17 inscriptions.Maybe he intended to come back again but never got around to doing so.The Genealogy centre at Cana House did not take inscriptions. The Dowra connection is not relevant.Send me your address and I will send on the Breifne article. I can tell you that Henry Mulvany was father of the two priests you mention and their mother was Ellen Farrelly.They came from Lisduff,Lurgan which is beside Virginia.Thomas was born c1820 ,he died in 1863 and Henry was born in 1824 and died 1896. He was ordained in 1852 for Salford,England. Looks to me that this might entail a visit to Dervor graveyard for you. Best Wishes, Tom Sullivan. PS.Have you been in touch with the Genealogy Centre,Cavan.Their e-mail is www.canahous@iol.ie.They might have something. Shane So you see, I am at 97.8 percent sure now that Mike's suggestion of Dervor/Derver is correct. Just two things left to do... 1. Confirm that there were burials as late as Anglo Celt Article; 2. See if Henry Mulvany really is there. The latter is hard to do... I am in the states. The gravestones are hard to read. The transcriptions are of only 17 of the 50 odd stones. Barring final confirmation of the number 2. if number 1. can be shown to be true, I would be at 99% sure. As it is I really am sure. When i get the article i will post. Folks, sorry so long. I hold standards of proof very seriously. Oh, and I love a good mystery. I am going to mostly bow out unless Barbara wants to hear more about "camera tours." Cheers all. Shane Colin Ferguson wrote: > > >perhaps someone at the Cavan Library would be willing to help us sort > this out. > > >I will continue to poke at this. > > Shane, > Have you in fact contacted the library in this regard? They hold both > the Anglo-Celt microfilm and Breifne or "Breifny Antiquarian Society > Journal" as it was known in 1922. I am confident that they would be > happy to consult the microfilm to better read the word DOVER? and > provide a copy of the cemetery transcriptions. The journal article is > out of copyright and thus a good candidate for posting online. > > -- > Cheers, > Colin Ferguson